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- Subject: How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup
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- Archive-name: usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1
- Original-author: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
- Comment: enhanced & edited until 5/93 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)
- Last-change: 31 Jan 1997 by newgroups-request@isc.org (David C Lawrence)
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- GUIDELINES FOR USENET GROUP CREATION
-
- REQUIREMENTS FOR GROUP CREATION:
-
- These are guidelines that have been generally agreed upon across
- Usenet as appropriate for following in the creating of new newsgroups
- in the "standard" Usenet newsgroup hierarchy. They are NOT intended as
- guidelines for setting Usenet policy other than group creations, and
- they are not intended to apply to "alternate" or local news
- hierarchies. The part of the namespace affected is comp, humanities,
- misc, news, rec, sci, soc, talk, which are the most widely-distributed
- areas of the Usenet hierarchy.
-
- Any group creation request which follows these guidelines to a
- successful result should be honored, and any request which fails to
- follow these procedures or to obtain a successful result from doing so
- should be dropped, except under extraordinary circumstances. The
- reason these are called guidelines and not absolute rules is that it
- is not possible to predict in advance what "extraordinary
- circumstances" are or how they might arise.
-
- It should be pointed out here that, as always, the decision whether or
- not to create a newsgroup on a given machine rests with the
- administrator of that machine. These guidelines are intended merely as
- an aid in making those decisions.
-
- The Discussion
-
- group-mentors@acpub.duke.edu is a body of volunteers experienced with
- the newsgroup creation process. They assist people who want to
- propose new groups with the formation and submission of a good
- proposal. It is strongly encouraged, though not required, that they
- be contacted with an outline of the basic idea for a proposal, and a
- mentor will work with the proponents to submit a formal proposal.
- People who have experience with the process and wish to help others
- should contact group-mentors-request@acpub.duke.edu to join.
-
- 1) A request for discussion on creation of a new newsgroup should be
- posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, and any other
- groups or mailing lists at all related to the proposed topic if
- desired. news.announce.newgroups is moderated, and the
- Followup-to: header will be set so that the actual discussion takes
- place only in news.groups. Users on sites which have difficulty
- posting to moderated groups may mail submissions intended for
- news.announce.newgroups to newgroups@isc.org. The proposal
- must be in the format defined in "How to Format and Submit a
- New Group Proposal", a pointer to which is at the end of this message.
-
- The article should be cross-posted among the newsgroups, including
- news.announce.newgroups, rather than posted as separate articles.
- Note that standard behaviour for posting software is to not present
- the articles in any groups when cross-posted to a moderated group;
- the moderator will handle that for you.
-
- 2) The name and charter of the proposed group and whether it will be
- moderated or unmoderated (and if the former, who the moderator(s)
- will be) should be determined during the discussion period. If
- there is no general agreement on these points among the proponents
- of a new group at the end of 30 days of discussion, the discussion
- should be taken offline (into mail instead of news.groups) and the
- proponents should iron out the details among themselves. Once that
- is done, a new, more specific proposal may be made, going back to
- step 1) above.
-
- 3) Group advocates seeking help in choosing a name to suit the
- proposed charter, or looking for any other guidance in the creation
- procedure, can send a message to group-advice@isc.org; a few
- seasoned news administrators are available through this address.
-
- The Vote
-
- The Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) are a group of neutral
- third-party vote-takers who currently handle vote gathering and
- counting for all newsgroup proposals. The coordinators of the group
- can be reached at contact@uvv.org; contact them to arrange the
- handling of the vote. The mechanics of vote will be handled in accord
- with the paragraphs below.
-
- 1) AFTER the discussion period, if it has been determined that a new
- group is really desired, a name and charter are agreed upon, and it
- has been determined whether the group will be moderated and if so
- who will moderate it, a call for votes may be posted to
- news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists that
- the original request for discussion might have been posted
- to. There should be minimal delay between the end of the discussion
- period and the issuing of a call for votes. The call for votes
- should include clear instructions for how to cast a vote. It must
- be as clearly explained and as easy to do to cast a vote for
- creation as against it, and vice versa. It is explicitly permitted
- to set up two separate addresses to mail yes and no votes to
- provided that they are on the same machine, to set up an address
- different than that the article was posted from to mail votes to,
- or to just accept replies to the call for votes article, as long as
- it is clearly and explicitly stated in the call for votes article
- how to cast a vote. If two addresses are used for a vote, the
- reply address must process and accept both yes and no votes OR
- reject them both.
-
- 2) The voting period should last for at least 21 days and no more than
- 31 days, no matter what the preliminary results of the vote
- are. The exact date that the voting period will end should be
- stated in the call for votes. Only votes that arrive on the
- vote-taker's machine prior to this date will be counted.
-
- 3) A couple of repeats of the call for votes may be posted during the
- vote, provided that they contain similar clear, unbiased
- instructions for casting a vote as the original, and provided that
- it is really a repeat of the call for votes on the SAME proposal
- (see #5 below). Partial vote results should NOT be included; only a
- statement of the specific new group proposal, that a vote is in
- progress on it, and how to cast a vote. It is permitted to post a
- "mass acknowledgement" in which all the names of those from whom
- votes have been received are posted, as long as no indication is
- made of which way anybody voted until the voting period is
- officially over.
-
- 4) ONLY votes MAILED to the vote-taker will count. Votes posted to the
- net for any reason (including inability to get mail to the
- vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing list
- maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will not be
- counted.
-
- 5) Votes may not be transferred to other, similar proposals. A vote
- shall count only for the EXACT proposal that it is a response
- to. In particular, a vote for or against a newsgroup under one name
- shall NOT be counted as a vote for or against a newsgroup with a
- different name or charter, a different moderated/unmoderated status
- or (if moderated) a different moderator or set of moderators.
-
- 6) Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote for the
- group foo.bar as proposed" or "I vote against the group foo.bar as
- proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to
- be unambiguous. In particular, statements of the form "I would vote
- for this group if..." should be considered comments only and not
- counted as votes.
-
- 7) A vote should be run only for a single group proposal. Attempts to
- create multiple groups should be handled by running multiple
- parallel votes rather than one vote to create all of the groups.
-
- The Result
-
- 1) At the completion of the voting period, the vote taker must post
- the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of
- the voters received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups
- or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was
- posted. The tally should include a statement of which way each
- voter voted so that the results can be verified.
-
- 2) AFTER the vote result is posted, there will be a 5 day waiting
- period, beginning when the voting results actually appear in
- news.announce.newgroups, during which the net will have a chance to
- correct any errors in the voter list or the voting procedure.
-
- 3) AFTER the waiting period, and if there were no serious objections
- that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create
- votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the
- total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a
- newgroup control message may be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
- or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.
-
- 4) The newgroup message will be sent by the news.announce.newgroups
- moderator at the end of the waiting period of a successful vote.
-
- 5) A proposal which has failed under point (3) above should not again
- be brought up for discussion until at least six months have passed
- from the close of the vote. This limitation does not apply to
- proposals which never went to vote or polls that were cancelled or
- invalidated.
-
- ADDITIONAL REFERENCES:
-
- If you want to create a new group, the following additional documents
- should be read before you begin the process.
-
- Subject: How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal
- Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups
-
- Subject: How to Write a Good Newsgroup Proposal
- Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups
-
- Subject: Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion
- Newsgroups: news.groups,news.announce.newusers,news.answers
-
- Subject: What is Usenet?
- Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.admin.misc,news.answers
-