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- From: jrg@blodwen.demon.co.uk (James R Grinter)
- Newsgroups: uk.telecom,news.answers
- Subject: uk.telecom FAQ, Part 2/3 - Telephone services
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- Date: 16 Jun 1996 23:47:51 +0100
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- Summary: uk.telecom Frequently Asked Questions + Answers
- This is the list of answers to frequently asked questions
- for the newsgroup uk.telecom, including both UK Contact &
- resource information, UK Telephone service information (part 2)
- and technical information (part 3).
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- Frequently Asked Questions for uk.telecom
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- Part 2 - Telephone Services
-
- Compiled/ Posted by James Grinter <jrg@blodwen.demon.co.uk>
-
- ~See <uk-telecom-1_834965264@blodwen.demon.co.uk> for the question index,
- and further information about this FAQ.~
-
- These articles attempt to summarise answers to some of the more often
- asked questions in the newsgroup uk.telecom.
-
- This second part of the FAQ is about Telephone services, companies, and
- products in the UK, and what is available.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: What is uk.telecom ?
-
- It's the uk's own little newsgroup to discuss all sorts of topics
- related to telecommunications in Britain, including (but not limited
- to) technical matters, pricing, STD codes, equipment, BT vs Mercury,
- Select Services (were Network Services, nee Star Services), ISDN
- services, modems, etc. You get the idea..
-
- It was born in August 1991 to cater for the large amount of telecoms
- related traffic in uk.misc, as UK specific enquiries in the UseNet
- newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom tended to be swamped by the vast number of
- other articles.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Phone numbers
-
- Q: Why do we need another digit in the phone numbers ?
-
- [left in for historical interest and 'told you so's ;-)]
-
- The existing numbering scheme is mixed 8, 9, and 10 digits (in all
- cases including the initial "0" - which isn't really part of the
- number. Theoretically, the maximum number of numbers is 900 million,
- excluding 00XX codes because by CCITT [now ITU] convention you can't
- have the same digit as the first digit of the NDC (National
- Destination Code, that's the STD code without the "0") as you have as
- national trunk prefix. 01XX has been cleared (solely to make the code
- change possible) and this reduces the total number of possible numbers
- to 800 million. Where the numbers are used for geographic areas, and
- users are offered the option to dial those numbers without a trunk
- code, then 201,000 numbers in each group of 1,000,000 become unusable.
- But other number ranges, such as cellnet, freefone, paging services
- and premium rate numbers are not limited in this way. So the real
- "supply" of numbers in the UK is about 650 million. Experience shows
- that allowing for the continuing process of number changing, and the
- fact that there will always be some numbers that cannot be allocated,
- about 60% of the supply can be utilised at any one time. This means
- that the present scheme restricts us to using no more than 400 million
- numbers at any one time. In fact the UK (plus the Channel Islands and
- the Isle of Man) is currently using less than 30 million numbers,
- which should allow plenty of room for growth.
-
- So why is there a problem? Because the numbering ranges are tied to
- fixed locations by a formula that has no place in modern
- telecommunications, and which was originally introduced solely to enable
- fairly primitive mechanical equipment to route and charge calls
- correctly. As a result there is a serious imbalance in the distribution
- of numbers: one code, such as 0393, has only 25 numbers in use - while
- another, such as 0532, has over 300,000.
-
- The proposed extra digit will NOT solve the problem. Agreed it will
- create a lot more codes: but even now there are 56 codes that have no
- numbers on them, and that figure (surprisingly enough) is increasing,
- not decreasing !
-
- But the extra digit won't provide any more numbers within each of those
- geographic areas served by individual codes, and that is where the brunt
- of the demand will be. Currently, growth is caused both by the need for
- more lines (particularly for fax) and by new operators taking blocks of
- numbers **within** the individual areas. Future demand will be driven by
- existing services such as DDI (Direct Dialling In to PABXs) which is a
- heavy consumer of numbers, and by new services such as Teenline, and
- Distinctive Ringing.
-
- The latent demand for DDI has been suppressed in the UK by both the lack
- of availability of connections, and by high tariffs imposed by BT. The
- arrival of DASS2 (the ISDN signalling system for digital PABXs) makes
- availability considerably easier, and Mercury and BT are now offering
- DDI at a much lower tariff.
-
- As demand grows, the larger cities will overflow their allocations of
- numbers and further complete changes will become necessary. It has
- recently been announced that five of those cities (Nottingham, Leeds,
- Sheffield, Leicester and Bristol) are to change to seven digit schemes
- in 1995: and looking at the list of codes vs numbering density in each
- (now, I believe, in the uk.telecom archives) it is clear that further
- places, including Brighton, Belfast and Bournemouth, are also likely to
- run out of numbers in the next few years.
-
- London's 071 was not expected to last beyond 2005 at the previous growth
- rates; however allowing for the greater demand caused by DDI and new
- services, the 071 number range is likely to be exhausted by the end of
- this decade. At that stage the two options will be either to split the
- 071 area into two codes, or to convert all of London to an eight digit
- scheme. This is not a new phenomenon ... even before London split into
- 071 and 081, two other capital cities (Paris and Copenhagen) had each
- tried an identical scheme. Those schemes failed, mainly because of
- confusion between "inner" and "outer" zone numbers, and each was
- superceded by an eight digit scheme which is reported to have been very
- successful.
-
- So we don't need an extra digit. And the extra digit (if we get it) won't
- solve any problems. We do need a complete overhaul of the numbering
- system, whether we have the extra digit or not. As that overhaul will
- have to come, it would be far better if we waited - and planned a single
- change that would solve all the problems, rather than have a hotchpotch of
- further changes.
-
- But - while the extra digit won't achieve anything for the customers, it
- will have an interesting effect on BT's sales figures. As soon as the
- extra digit is imposed, all Mercury Smart Boxes, SmartSockets, and
- compatible PABX and key systems will stop working unless they have been
- modified (at the user's expense) because they will be unable to
- recognise the longer codes. With the reduced differentials between
- Mercury's tariffs and BT's "options", some users may find it
- uneconomical to pay the charge for the modifications.
-
- Similarly, payphones supplied before 1992 by BT's competitors will be
- unable to charge correctly for calls. Some will have to be modified, at
- a cost, while others, that cannot be modified, will have to be scrapped.
- Some of those payphones are still on sale to unsuspecting members of the
- public without any warnings being given as to what is in store.
-
-
- Q: So who decided, and what were the choices?
-
- Ovum Ltd, 1 Mortimer St, London W1., a respected and independent
- telecommunications/management consultancy, carried out the investigation
- for OFTEL. They were asked to study the first five options below.
-
- 'Numbering for Telephony Services into the 21st Century -
- A Consultative Document' July 1989 Oftel. Sample quotes:
-
- There are **many** possible options for a future scheme.. This document
- identifies 5 practicable options which span the range of possibilities.
-
- The starting point for any new plan is the current scheme. This
- is essentially a nine digit plan. (The leading zero dialled for
- trunk calls is a prefix which is not strictly part of the full
- telephone number.) [<== here comes the selective blindness]
-
- - a) Add a leading digit to all numbers which indicates the service
- being used. [Final choice; '1' indicates old numbers]
- - b) As a) but numbers are fully portable. [The number does not
- geography or carrier].
- - c) Compromise between a) and b). Add a leading digit.. numbers
- portable.. but geographic portability is restricted to
- individual NNG areas [eg within Birmingham].
- - d) Add an extra digit to the front of all local DNs.. local PSTN
- DNs increase in length from 6 or 7 digits to 7 or 8.
- - e) The only nine digit plan of the five, allows full portability
- of DNs. Users dial the full national number at all times
- omitting the trunk prefix '0' which is redundant.
- - f) [Not actually proposed] As for a). Drop trunk prefix '0'.
- Add leading '0' for old numbers, so they look the same.
-
-
- Q: Who owns this numbering space ?
-
- The numbering space is owned by the nation, and (technically) Oftel is its
- custodian. But in practise Oftel delegates the majority of decisions to BT,
- and takes advice from BT (and sometimes other operators) on major issues.
- If Oftel owned the numbering space and managed it effectively, Mercury would
- have been allocated 0800 and 0345 numbers to issue to their customers, rather
- than having to use new codes (0500 and 0645) which are still not recognised
- by some BT (and private) payphones.
-
-
- Q: I've heard someone mention about Mercury's 0500 service, what is it ?
-
- This is Mercury's 'freecall' service introduced at the end of 1992 and
- is their equivalent of BT's 0800 service. Similarly Mercury 0645
- service, called 'localcall' is the equivalent of BT's 0345 (now
- tackily 'Lo-call') service. 0800 89 prefixes normally indicate
- that the number is connected to a location outside the UK: overseas
- telephone companies 'country direct' services. Some 0500 89 prefixes
- are also like this, but mostly those mirroring 0800 numbers.
-
-
- Q: How can I phone American 1-800 (toll free) numbers from the UK ?
-
- Latest information is that now you can ring a 1-800 number from
- any BT line, albeit with the normal international charge being levied.
- American 1-888 codes do not yet appear to be covered by this.
-
- [I forget where this information came from, but someone has tried
- it recently, and not had any luck.]
- For a list of U.S. companies with U.K. 0800 numbers, call AT&T Direct (see
- another answer) and ask for 816-654-6688 collect. Then ask the person who
- answers for extension 7642 (if you're US military, then apparently you
- should ask for extension 9661 instead). You should call during US business
- hours.
-
-
- Q: How do I dial a number with a mnemonic in it ?
-
- Here's a letter to number mapping; this is potentially useful because many
- 1-800 numbers have mnemonics in them.
-
- Num UK USA 1 2 3
- 1 ABC --- ---
- 2 ABC ABC DEF ABC ABC
- 3 DEF DEF GHI DEF DEF
- 4 GHI GHI JKL GHI GHI
- 5 JKL JKL MNO JKL JKL
- 6 MN MNO PQR MNO MN
- 7 PRS PRS STU PQRS PRS
- 8 TUV TUV VWX TUV TUV
- 9 WXY WXY YZ WXYZ WXY
- 0 OQ Operator Oper/+ + OQZ
-
- There is no 'Z' in either system, and there's no 'Q' in the States.
-
- The other three columns are
- 1. Mitsubishi MT-9, Motorola MR1
- 2. Motorola 7500, Roamer 300, 500
- 3. Nokia GSM2010, Orange.
-
- Q: What are BT Phonebase/ Electronic Yellow Pages/ TeleDirectory and
- how do you get access to them?
-
- BT Phonebase allows you to use your modem for directory enquiries. You
- get access to the whole country by name, street, town, even by phonetic
- partial match. You get access to up-to-date information, not a phone book
- that's maybe a year old. It gives you name, full address including
- postcode, and phone number. Phonebase is a seperate system, though it is
- supposed to be regularly updated from NIS - the DQ (Directory Enquiries)
- system.
-
- It costs nothing to join (phone 0800 919 199 or fax (0114) 244 0157 and
- they send out the form).
-
- The modem call is charged at long distance rates [ BTs 'n' rate is
- about 15 p/minute but Mercury (business tariff at least) charge about
- 9 p/minute], and is only 2400 baud. But even so, you can look up
- numbers for a fraction the cost of Directory Enquiry calls (37.8p
- +VAT).
-
- As for the retrieval system, well, it was written by a bunch of
- Americans and BT thought it was perfectly adequate. There was a
- front-end access program available, written by BT, though they have
- now discontinued support and are planning to change the interface. The
- program is available from
- <URL:ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/ibmpc/baseline/baseline.exe>, and
- someone is trying to obtain the source and details of the proposed new
- interface definition.
-
- BT also recently launched an online directory enquiry system for personal
- computer users. Called TeleDirectory, the system is 'aimed at customers
- who require five or more telephone numbers a day' and costs 12p per
- enquiry. It's based upon an MS Windows front end, and comes with a
- software at a cost of UKP300 per annum, with discounts on 5 licenses or
- more. Ring 0800 200 700 for further information.
-
- Electronic Yellow Pages is quite obviously named. It offers access
- from (01734) 505533 (vt100) or 505522 (Videotex). Helpline on (01734)
- 506506, for more info. Access via a Reverse Charge X25 call is no
- longer available. You can now access EYP via a web interface
- at <URL:http://gatekeeper.yellowpages.co.uk/yell/eyp.html>.
-
-
- Q: How can I get UK phone directories on CDROM?
-
- BT offer 'Phone Disc', basically BT's Phone books on CDROM. There are
- three options available - The annual Phone Disc, updated annually, is
- available at 199 UKP, Phone Disc updated quarterly costs 1,600 UKP and
- the Network Phone Disc, for very high volume users with multi-server
- applications, costs 3,000 UKP per annum. Contact 0800 526 281 free
- for further information.
-
- There is currently no other offering that has residential numbers
- included, though there has been mention of a disc including business
- numbers. Hurdles to a CDROM including the UK phone directories include
- BT's assertion of copyright over the collection (see also regular
- discussions in uk.telecom).
-
-
- Q: What defines a local call area?
-
- The boundaries are all quite complex. The only reference seems to be your
- local phone book, which will tell you where you can call for local costs. The
- complete list is available from BT on floppy, but costs a fortune!
-
- From BT's 1994 price update (Item Code 964780 (2/94)), it says
-
- >> "Telephone exchanges are grouped together into charge groups to determine
- >> call charges for local and national calls. Each charge group has a "charge
- >> point". A call made within a charge group is usually a local call. Charges
- >> for other calls are generally based on the distance (up to or over 35
- >> miles) between the charge points in the originating and called charge
- >> groups."
-
-
- Q: When did the National Code Change take place?
-
- The National Code Change took place at 1am on 'Phoneday' (16 April
- 1995). The new codes and numbers were available for use since 1 August
- 1994. Phoneday is when the old codes and numbers were withdrawn. Call
- 0800 010101 (BT) or 0500 04 1995 (Mercury) for more information.
-
- See other regular posts, and information supplied by your telephone
- provider for details of number changes.
-
-
- Q: When did the International access code change happen?
-
- At the same time as Phoneday, the dialling code for making an
- international call changed from 010 to 00.
-
-
- Q: I want a new line with a particular number, or want to renumber an
- existing line to a particular number.
-
- You can (generally) do this as long as the number is not allocated or
- reserved for somebody else. You will be told that the number you want is
- not on their list, but ask them to call the number allocation people for
- your area and get it for you.
-
- It CAN be done. NOTE: If you are requesting a new line tell them before
- they start tapping your details that you want to choose a number.
-
-
- Q: What sort of dialling code is <x>?
-
- (0990 was used for Ascot, Chobham, and Wentworth, until a few years ago.
- Ascot moved to 0344 (2, 87) Wentworth to 0344 (84) and Chobham to 0276 (85))
-
- [note: not all of these are in even BT's phone book]
-
- 01399 VodaPage Network local
- 014260 ? Free
- 014261 Free
- 014262 local
- 014263 ff1
- 014264 regional
- 014265 regional
- 014266 ff1
- 014267 Free
- 014268 local
- 014269 regional
- 014591 ? regional
- 014592 regional
- 014593 Free
- 014594 regional
- 014595 regional
- 014596 Free
- 014598 regional
- 014599 Free
-
- 0331 Vodata premium rate p1
- 0336 Vodata premium rate p1
- 0338 Mercury premium rate p1
- 0345 BT LoCall local
- 0374 VodaFone M
- 03745 b
- 0378 VodaFone M
- 0385 VodaFone (GSM) M
- 03856 Vodata services b
- 0402 Cellnet Mobile M
- 0408 BT Mobile e (Personal Assistant)
- 0421 VodaFone M
- 04211 b
- 04560 Orange m
- 04561 Orange m
- 0468 Vodafone (GSM) M
- 0500 Mercury Free
- 05415 ? b
- 0585 Cellnet M
- 0589 VodaFone M
- 0640 MCL p0 UKP1.50/minute
- 0645 Mercury L
- 0660 Mercury premium rate p1
- 06966 ? p1
- 07010 Flextel Personal Numbers d
- 07017 Flextel Personal Numbers d
- 0800 BT FreeCall Free
- 0802 Cellnet GSM M
- 0831 VodaFone M
- 0836 VodaFone M
- 08360 VodaFone services b
- 08361 VodaFone services b
- 08364 VodaFone premium p1
- 08368 VodaFone Services (vmail) b
- 08369 VodaFone Services (pabx) b
- 0839 Mercury premium p1
- 0850 Cellnet M
- 0860 Cellnet M
- 0881 Mercury premium M [or should that be p1?]
- 0891 BT p1
- 0894 BT s0 35p flat rate
- 0897 BT p0 UKP1.50/minute
- 0898 BT Premium Rate p1
- 0910 BT services
- 091021 ? n
- 09411 Hutchison Paging regional
- 0956 Mercury One2One d
- 09567 Flextel classic d
- 0958 Mercury One2One d
- 09580 Mercury One2One Freecall Free
- 09581 Mercury One2One Localcall local
- 0973 Orange PCS d
- 0976 Orange PCS d
- 09797 Jersey Telecom GMS h
- 0990 BT b derived services
- 09911 MCL p0
- 09919 MCL p0
-
- ff1 - fixed fee, regardless of duration
- h - calls to 'new services'
- m, d - mobile phones.
- n - information services
- p0, p1, s0 - premium rate services [watch out for p0!]
-
- Q: What codes are free to the caller?
-
- 1471 is currently free of charge. 141, 1474 and 1470 are chargeable
- at the same rate as the call being made - there is no charge for using
- the 1xx(x) code. The following codes are also free to the caller,
- (except see note below):
-
- 112 = European standard Emergency number
- 131 = Mercury PIN access
- 132 = Mercury CLI access
- 133 = Mercury calling card (0500 800800)
- 139 = Mercury Extended Ingress, currently on test
- 144 = BT Chargecard
- 145 = BT "Fixed Mobile Convergence"
- 150 = BT Residential Customer Services
- 151 = BT Residential fault reports
- 152 = BT Business Customer Services
- 154 = BT Business fault reports
- 1571 = Message Retrieval
- 1601 = ACC Indirect Access
- 1602 = ACC Indirect Access
- 1611 = Energis Indirect Access
- 1616 = Energis Indirect Access (actually their contact line)
- 1620 = Energis direct (CLI) access - includes the initial "0"
- 1621 = Energis direct (CLI) access - includes the initial "1"
- 1660 = Worldcom Access
- 17070 = (replacement for 174/175)
- 17094 = Network Based Call Answering Service - Diversion on busy
- 17095 = NBCAS - Ring Tone no reply
- 17099 = Alternative emergency code
- 174 = Faultsman's ring back
- 175 = SALT test
- 176 = Customer Pair Localisation Equipment
- 177 = Customer Pair Identification (reads back number)
- 195 = Blind customer DQ
- 153 = International DQ (**see note**)
- 155 = International Operator
- 190 = Telemessage
- 192 = UK DQ (**see note**)
- 198 = Operator (used for revertive calls)
-
- Remembering that these are the codes that BT systems recognise,
- beacuse that related to the original question. Other networks will
- recognise other codes, and may not recognise all of these. Oftel are
- working on a list of standard codes, and may require some of these to
- be withdrawn when they do not conform to the standard. This is
- especially likely to apply to 3-digit codes, as the standard will
- become 4-digit 1XXX codes, with exceptions such as 100, 112 etc.
-
- 123 is a local call from anywhere (the old numbers for Timeline,
- ending in 8081, were usually but NOT ALWAYS a local call!)
-
- 153 and 192 are chargeable at the rate for a call to Directory
- Enquiries. 100, 155, 190 and 198 route to a BT operator: the call to
- the operator is free, but any call connected by the operator will
- usually be chargeable.
-
-
- Q: How should I correctly write my telephone number?
-
- [quote: "The following is information sent by OFTEL, originally written
- by BT. I have tried to reproduce it letter for letter, but the BT text
- was right justified and mine isn't! E&OE. Adrian Kennard. Jan95"]
-
- NUMBER PRESENTATION - BT ADVICE
-
- The recommended style of presentation of new telephone numbers is
- based on customer reseach. Brackets are used to identify the
- national code - which is omitted when dialling within the same
- area. The use of hyphens is no longer recommended.
-
- Metropolitan Areas (ie those with 7 digit local numbers):
-
- These should be in the "All Figure Format" with the local number
- shown as 3+4 digits eg:
-
- Tel: (0171) 239 1482
- (0117) 927 2272
-
- Non-Metropolitan Areas:
-
- The Local number is shown without any space;
-
- Tel: (01273) 568010
- (0781 39) 9587
-
- If customers wish to include the Exchange name it should be shown
- before the National Dialling Code eg:
-
- Tel: Brighton (01273) 568010
- Tel: Barlaston (0781 39) 9587
- Tel: Bristol (0117) 927 2272
-
- NON GEOGRAPHIC CODES (Mobiles, Paging, Linkline etc)
- In all cases it is necessary to dial the full national number. In
- these cases brackets are not used.
-
- eg 0800 526174, 0891 234876
-
- PRESENTATION OF NUMERS FOR CALLS FROM OVERSEAS
-
- The international convention is to show the country code (for the
- UK = 44) and number prefixed by "+". The "+" indicates that callers
- should dial the appropriate International access code according the
- country from which they are calling. International calls omit the
- inland prefix "0" thus the Brighton example would be shown as
- International +44 1273 586010
-
- Together these would be shown as:
-
- Telephone:Brighton (01273) 586010
- International: +44 1273 586010
-
- NB For Fax lines the same conventions apply but using "fax" in
- place of "Tel".
-
-
- Q: What is a "DE block"?
-
- The digits of a national code or phone number are referred to by
- letters according to where they are in the number. After the initial
- zero (which of course is NOT part of the nationally significant
- number) the digits are given successive letters in sequence - but
- excluding the initial "1" if it is present.
-
- For example, in 0171 634 8961, letters are allocated as follows:
- AB CDE FGH
-
- In the case of the Reading numbers
- such as 0734 413131, the letters are allocated in the same way:
- ABC DEFGH
-
- so that (in that case) the DE digits are the first two after either
- the 0734 or 01734, as appropriate. In the days before digital
- switches, this was the point at which BT (in nearly all cases) did its
- final route selection to the exchange or UAX serving the required
- number range. The significance today is that the Oftel numbering unit
- only allocates numbers to licensed operators in blocks of 10,000:
- i.e. all the numbers with the same DE digits are allocated to the same
- licensed operator. When you run out of DE digits for a particular area
- (i.e. national destination code), you have de facto run out of
- numbers!
-
- It was originally suggested to Oftel that numbers should instead be
- allocated in multiple blocks of 1000, as this would provide greater
- flexibility. Sadly they did not adopt this suggestion: if they had
- done so, Reading might not be in the predicament it is in today.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Oftel
-
- Q: Who or what are OFTEL? How do I contact them?
-
- OFTEL is the Office of Telecommunications, created by the act that set the
- way for British Telecommunications to be privatised.
-
- Office of Telecommunications (Oftel)
- 50 Ludgate Hill
- LONDON EC4M 7JJ
-
- Tel: (0171) 634 8700 (Switchboard)
- (0171) 634 8888 (Advice unit) Fax: (0171) 634 8943
- (0171) 634 8754 (Publications)
-
- Oftel's library may be contacted on (0171) 634 8764/5 during office hours
- (9am-5pm). If you quote them the BABT approvals number from any piece of
- equipment, they can look up the relevant approval document and give you
- details of the company that applied for the license, and companies that
- can service the equipment without invalidating the approval.
-
-
- Q: Do OFTEL set any of BT's charges?
-
- No charges are set by Oftel. BT sets ALL its charges, and publishes them
- in their "Price List" (of which Oftel get a file copy). If Oftel believe
- any of BT's charging policies are in breach of the license conditions (or
- any other regulatory requirement) they will of course point this out.
-
- Oftel do put a price cap of RPI - 7.5% on a 'basket' of services and
- limits on some individual services.
-
-
- Q: How do I get a copy of 'Oftel News'?
-
- Just ring Oftel and ask. (0171) 634 8700
-
- ----
-
- Subject: ICSTIS
-
- Q: Who or what are ICSTIS? How do I contact them?
-
- The Independent Committee for the Supervision of Standards of
- Telephone Information Services.
-
- [Note address change {*}]
- ICSTIS,
- 177, High Holborn,
- London
- Telephone (0171) 240 5511 Fax (0171) 379 4611
- Complaint line is 0800 500 212.
-
- Their leaflet describes them as "an independent watchdog which supervises
- premium rate telephone information and entertainment services".
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Mercury Communications Ltd
-
- Q: Can you use a Mercury 131 account from any phone? {*}
-
- The Mercury 2300 residential service is intended for use from a single
- phone number, and it may be against their terms of business to break
- this guideline. However, in practice you will find that a 131 PIN
- will work from any phone on the same exchange. So if you happen to
- have a separate fax line, or you want to use your account on a
- neighbour's phone, it will probably work. Look upon the inability to
- use it outside your local exchange as a security feature. And look
- after your "blue button" phone - if nicked or "borrowed" it can be
- used to run up large bills on your account!
-
- If you want to make calls from further afield, consider a Mercury
- Calling Card instead.
-
-
- Q: What is the Mercury beep, and can I get rid of it ?
-
- The answer beep can annoy customers if it occurs once the person has
- started speaking. In some areas, it is immediate on answer and therefore
- no problem. It **can** be removed for specific accounts on request:
- just ring up Mercury customer services and ask.
-
- The beep triggers call logging/charging equipment, such as hotel
- switchboards and payphones, and although it is currently applied to all
- indirect calls via Mercury (except where the customer has requested its
- removal), Mercury are planning to withdraw it from all those customers
- that do not specifically require it.
-
-
- Q: What do I get on Mercury's itemised bill using cost centres?
-
- - A statement giving total bill, together with giro credit slip,
- - A sheet listing all cost centres used, together with time and
- money totals,
- - A sheet for **each** cost centre used detailing **each** call made,
- listing exchange name (not code) and number dialed, time+duration,
- and cost.
-
-
- Q: Is it possible to access Mercury 131 from a BT Payphone?
-
- If the phone is rented by a customer from BT, the answer is yes, **provided**
- that (a) it is in a Mercury Access Area, and (b) the customer has not asked
- BT to bar access to Mercury from that phone. If however the phone has been
- provided by BT for "public" use (i.e. nobody is paying rental on the phone,
- and all the takings go to BT) then, in nearly all cases BT will have barred
- Mercury access. If there are any cases where Mercury access has not been
- barred, it will be simply because someone has forgotten to do it!
-
-
- Q: How can I dial 9 digit numbers quickly- the system waits a while for
- the 10th digit?
-
- For Mercury 131, try using a #. This apparently doesn't work for 132,
- because for that service the BT exchange stores all the digits and
- dispatches them to Mercury in one go.
-
-
- Q: What is the Mercury 132 service? {*}
-
- Instead of having a PIN (as with the 131 service), Mercury uses your
- Calling Line Identity (CLI) to identify you. The dialling code to
- access the service is 132. The differences from 131 are
-
- - You don't need a special "blue button" phone - any tone-dialling phone
- will do
- - Calls are set up faster, as there is no PIN dialogue
- - It is not available from all exchanges
- - It is not possible to use it from just any exchange line
-
- You still have the cost centre facility at no extra charge, as per
- Mercury 131.
-
- Q: Can I tell if Mercury 131/132 service is available in my area? {*}
-
- Ring Mercury Customer Services on 0500 500 194, and ask them. Or, if
- you would rather play with Mercury's computers, dial 0500 132 131 and
- follow the automated prompts.
-
-
- Q: Can I use 132 service from multiple exchange lines? {*}
-
- For a domestic subscriber, it is possible to register a two exchange
- lines (ie two phone numbers) to a single 132 account, but only if you
- subscribe to the Smartcall tariff scheme. Mercury's rule-of-thumb says
- that Smartcall will save you money if your bill is typically over 30
- pounds per month (but check it yourself - we make no guarantees here!).
-
- If you have more than two domestic phone lines, you need more than one
- account.
-
- The situation is different for business subscribers - contact Mercury
- Business Customer Enquiries on 0500 700 101.
-
-
- Q: How do I get Mercury's price list?
-
- The Mercury Communications Ltd. Price List (or Tariff Schedule
- as they call it) comes from:
-
- Marketing Publications Manager
- Mercury Communications Ltd
- New Mercury House
- 26 Red Lion Square
- LONDON WC1R 4HQ
-
- Voice: (0171) 528 2000 (main switchboard)
- Fax: (0171) 528 2377 (direct to Marketing Pubs dept I think)
-
- In case anyone wants to know what it looks like (so they can check
- they're being sent the real thing) it's an A4 ring binder about an
- inch thick, there are several sections inside each separated by a
- snazzy plastic divider with a graphic symbol designed to represent
- the contents.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: British Telecommuncations plc (BT)
-
- Q: Why is there no 0345 access to PSS Dialplus ?
-
- [Two answers to this one:]
-
- There are probably two main reasons why this is not done.
-
- 1) 0345 services (and 0800, 0898, 0891) were designed to give country-wide
- access at the appropriate charge rate to a specific number in a specific
- area of the country. There **is** also a method of directing calls
- originating in a specific area to a regional number - eg - 0345 123456
- dialled in Brighton would route to a number somewhere in South East
- England, and the same number dialled in Scotland would route to a number
- in, say, Glasgow (cf. BT's experts service - ~Advanced LinkLine~). In both
- cases the renter of the 0345 number pays for the trunk call part of the
- charge. The PSS service has PADs all over the UK, ie dozens of them, so
- that PSS traffic is not tying up trunk circuits. That would negate the
- whole point of the service!. The complexity of determining the 0345
- routing to all these local PADs is probably not worth it.
-
- 2) The services are currently carried on an overlay network with its own
- exchanges. By their nature, most of these services are short holding
- time calls (despite the incidence of children spending long hours on
- chat-lines & pop music feeds), and the network is dimensioned for this.
- It is certainly not designed to carry relatively long holding time
- traffic to PADs!
-
- Perhaps, in the future Intelligent Network Databases will allow this
- sort of universal number access to lots of local nodes using the
- existing local network, but that's not imminent as far as I know.
-
-
- [However, another explanation has been proffered - Ed.]
-
- This question was asked, some years ago, at a `Character Terminal
- Implementors Group' meeting (a UK group which inputs to CCITT [now
- ITU] on the X.3, X.28 and X.29 recommendations, now defunct).
-
- The representatives from BT Network Services said that since BT was
- split up into different commercial divisions, BT Network Services would
- have to pay the full going rate for an 0345 (or 0800) number. That
- charge would obviously have to get passed on to the PAD user, and on
- average it would be higher than that of the phone calls made by the PAD
- user since the majority of them could make a local call.
-
- That's not a full answer, as there are bound to be savings in reducing
- the number of locations where PAD lines are located (be they real, or
- out-of-area lines to a PAD somewhere else), but it seemed as though BT
- Network Services were well aware of the possibility, and would take
- decisions on cost grounds. A factor which is obviously difficult to
- quantify is the value of having a single number which PAD users can
- call. One slight technical hitch is that an NUI is not necessarily
- known at all PAD centres.
-
-
- Q: What **are** these Network Services/ Select Services that people
- keep mentioning? Are they a BT version of teletext or something? Do
- you have to pay for them?
-
- [Culled from information provided by P.K.Chawdhry@newcastle.ac.uk (Pravir K
- Chawdhry), clive@x.co.uk (Clive Feather) and pkh@cs.nott.ac.uk (Kevin
- Hopkins).]
-
- Select (formerly Network) Services are available on BT's digital
- exchanges (System X and System Y) and are usually available on the
- payment of a quarterly rental, though some are available solely on the
- payment of a per usage charge.
-
- [PLEASE NOTE: This is just a summary, for a full list and charges please
- see the seperate posting "BT Network Services information"
- <uk-telecom-network-services_834965264@blodwen.demon.co.uk>]
-
- Set up features:
-
- 5 == Retry When Not Busy (when busy tone heard) (System Y)
- *21*number# Call Diversion (all calls)
- *261# Call Barring (incoming)
- *34bar# Call Barring (outgoing)
- *40*number# Call Charge Advice (System X)
- *40*number Call Charge Advice (System Y)
- *411# Call Charge Advice on all calls
- *43# Call Waiting
- *51*code*number# Code Calling
- *55*time# Reminder Call
- *56*time*programme# Reminder Programme (System X)
- *61*number# Call Diversion (no reply)
- *61*number*wait# == Call Diversion (no reply) (Extra System Y facility)
- *67*number# Call Diversion (on busy)
-
- Code Calling calls:
-
- ** 0 Repeat Last Call (excluding Code Calling calls)
- ** code Code Calling call
-
- Status checks on settings:
-
- *#001# Check which services are active (System X)
- *#21# Call Diversion (all calls)
- *#261# Call Barring (incoming)
- *#34# Call Barring (outgoing)
- *#411# Call Charge Advice on all calls
- *#43# Call Waiting
- *#51*code# Code Calling
- *#55# Reminder Call
- *#56# Regular Programme (System X)
- *#61# Call Diversion (no reply)
- *#67# Call Diversion (on busy)
-
- Cancel features:
-
- #21# Call Diversion (all calls)
- #261# Call Barring (incoming) (System X)
- #261*keyword# Call Barring (incoming) [System Y]
- #34bar*keyword# Call Barring (outgoing)
- #37# == Retry When Not Busy [System Y]
- #411# Call Charge Advice on all calls
- #43# Call Waiting
- #51*code# Code Calling
- #55# Reminder Call
- #56*time*programme# Reminder Programme (System X)
- #56# Reminder Programme (System X)
- #61# Call Diversion (no reply)
- #67# Call Diversion (on busy)
-
-
- Q: When I use call waiting, and press R to get the dialling tone so that I
- can get to the new caller, nothing happens i.e. no dialling tone.
-
- You may have switched your phones to tone dialling but there should be a
- separate switch to change the type of recall from Earth Loop to Timed
- Break (which is essential to use Call Waiting fully). Sometimes there is
- only one switch, three position (LD/MFE/MFT) in which case you want MFT.
- Some MF phones do NOT have the Timed Break (MFT) option - in which case
- you would need a new phone to make full use of the service.
-
-
- Q: How do I order BT's full price list ?
-
- >> The BT price list I ordered finally turned up... it wasn't what I
- >> expected - it's a thin leaflet with basically little more information
- >> than the residential price guide you get with your bill.
-
- Then it simply isn't the **price list**. It may be what BT try to fob you
- off with when you ask for a copy of the price list. Now ring them back
- and insist on the REAL THING ! (BT reference is TRF/BTP/A100 et seq.)
-
- The person responsible for co-ordinating the price list is Damien
- O'Reilly. You can write to him at: PP 4029, 2-12 Gresham Street, London
- EC2V 7AG, or else fax your request through on (0171) 356 7340.
-
-
- Q: How do I get a BT 'Midnight line'?
-
- Be sure to phone 152, not 150, and be persistent that such things exist!
- BT product number A12342. Connection is UKP499.50 +VAT; Rental is
- UKP358.80 +VAT per quarter (at 10/12/1993), on top of the 'normal' BT
- charges.
-
- Between Midnight and 6am the charges for all calls or parts of calls
- in local, regional and national charge bands are suppressed. All other
- calls are charged at the normal rates appropriate at the time.
- Premium Calls are barred as normal. All other times normal metering.
-
- Since the charging is suppressed at the pricing computer, not at the
- exchange, the free calls will show normal charging on real time advice
- facilities (Select Services Charge Advice, Meter Pulse Facility and ISDN
- Call Charge Indication).
-
- Break even point was formally approx. someone making a 110 units of
- calls a night, 5 days a week 52 weeks of the year. Since BT no longer
- charges in units the break even point is slightly altered, but one
- must account for the minimum charge. The break even is also affected
- by any discount options on the line (which reduce the price that would
- have been paid for the calls were it not a Midnight Line).
-
- Q: Are calls made on Midnight lines **outside** the Midnight-6am free period
- charged at normal dialled rates?
-
- Certainly they are. If they are directly dialled, that is !
-
-
- Q: Can I get a fully itemised bill from BT ?
-
- Yes, with the proviso that you are on a System X or Y exchange,
- fully-itemised billing from BT is now available. There is no charge
- for the service. You can choose between all calls, 2-, 5- and 10-unit
- itemisation, or no itemisation. TXE4(RD) exchanges can also now offer
- this service.
-
- Delivery of itemisation records on floppy disk is being trialled, and has
- been so for some time. The size of the trial is to be increased. A
- single-sheet paper bill is also sent, for legal reasons (including VAT). A
- charge is made for the analysis software, which runs under MS Windows.
-
- Another suggestion to accomplish itemisation of any call on a bill, which
- already includes 10 units and over itemisation, has been proffered: Dial
- 0800 500 005, press 'recall' (**not** redial) and dial the number. Any
- number will apparently work, though recorded information lines (you could
- also try 0800 556677) obviously won't annoy a real person. This will
- only work if you have 3-way calling.
-
-
- Q: How can I get ISDN?
-
- Some BT exchanges offer ISDN (to find out whether **your** exchange
- can offer it, you need to talk to BT sales), and it works out rather
- more expensive by way of line rental than does an ordinary line, but
- call rates (apart from special offers) are the same. At least some
- other carriers also offer ISDN - try asking those that are to be found
- in your area (for example, I believe Cambridge Cable do). Note that
- an ISDN connection to Mercury via 131 (even if Mercury have ISDN
- capability) is probably a no-hoper. Mercury now do ISDN access via
- 132. It needs to be signed for seperately from the normal Mercury
- service.
-
-
- Q: What are the costs of ISDN connection and calls?
-
- For ISDN2 (Basic Rate Access), the connection charge is UKP400 and the
- quarterly rental is UKP84. Call charges are the same as the normal PSTN
- for national calls, but there are differences upon international routes.
-
-
- Q: What does an 0990 number offer you, and what is its cost?
-
- Setup Charge: UKP100
- Rental : UKP 50
- : UKP300 (for 'Number Choice') {*}
- (ex VAT.)
-
- The number can be delivered to any BT line, or cable line (as I
- was told by a BT spokesperson - so take that as being unreliable!).
-
- From the info sheet:
-
- >>"The charges callers pay are aligned to BT's National Long Distance
- >>charges. This means that a three minute daytime call will cost 30p,
- >>dropping to 20p on weekday evenings and to 10p at weekens. (These
- >>prices include VAT.)
- >>
- >>Calles from overseas will pay the standard international direct
- >>dial charges from their country to the UK.
- >>Businesses are not charged for the receipt of basic Nationalcall
- >>0990 calls."
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Caller ID/ Caller Identification (CLI/CLID)
-
- Q: Is Caller ID available in the UK ?
-
- Yes. A detailed discussion paper covering most of the issues,
- including an appendix by the Data Protection Registrar and the results
- of a survey of public attitudes, was published as follows
-
- Consultative document : calling line identification / issued by the
- Director General of Telecommunications. September 1993. 20 pages.
-
- (contact Oftel for this)
-
- from the April 1994 BABT Newsletter
-
- >> CALLER DISPLAY SERVICES ON ANALOGUE PSTN LINES
- >>
- >> The draft SITS [Special Investigation & Test Schedule - ie. Specification]
- >> BABT/TC/128, which has been available for comment, will not be ratified by
- >> the BABT Technical Committee until OFTEL have resolved the position
- >> regarding competition between public network operators (PTOs).
-
- Other operator's networks are likely to offer similar services in the future
- at which time Caller ID will almost certainly be passed between networks.
-
- For BT, to use Caller Display you need a special telephone or display
- unit which show, and then store, the numbers of incoming callers. Call
- Return simply stores the number of your last incoming caller, and will
- work with any phone. You can dial 1471 to get a reading of the last
- number that attempted to ring (free).
-
- There are a range of free options for preventing their identity
- going forward on outgoing calls and blocking incoming anonymous calls.
- The simplest of these is the '141' service which blocks caller id
- going forward on a per-call basis. You can also have all calls blocked
- and then release per-call with '1470'.
-
- For more information on Caller Display and Call Return call 0800 801471.
-
- [See the archive for some technical information upon BT's CLI or try and
- find British Telecommunications Engineering, Volume 12, part 3- October
- 1993]
-
- Q: What PSTN phones support Caller ID?
-
- BT has one PSTN phone- the Relate 1000, that supports Caller ID.
-
- Early releases of this phone suffered from a problem where the unit's
- processor would 'hang', causing the Caller ID display to miss incoming
- calls until the handset is picked up. To fix this problem, ask BT to
- supply a phone with a serial number ending "B22" (or, presumably,
- later versions).
-
- Reports say that even the latest phones miss the occaisional call, but
- doesn't crash. Various ideas for the missing calls, including noisy
- lines between Exchange and handset, have been suggested.
-
-
- Q: What ISDN phones support Caller ID, decoding and displaying it?
-
- DP2000 From BT - is an ISDN phone with analogue jack and RS-232 38K port
- It does CLI, MSN, stores last 10 CLI so you can return your calls and it
- looks OK. (Caller ID to ISDN costs UKP3.40 per quarter).
-
-
- Q: I've seen a couple of ads in Exchange & Mart for Caller ID devices...
- anyone know if these really work ?
-
- No. They are EITHER boxes made to the USA standard (which was not
- adopted in the UK) or boxes that ask callers to input their number in
- MF tones, and then display what is input.
-
-
- Q: Can I route a call to different devices depending upon the CLI?
-
- Yes, at least one such device exists and has been discussed:
-
- Lineplex CS200 Call Router
-
- Uses the CLI service to switch calls based on the caller's telephone number
- Stores 60 telephone numbers that can be directed to one or other of two ports
- Totally silent operation
- Can be interfaced to PC to upload CLI information
- Supplied with software to display and store phone line
- Overnight e-mail
- Priority call routing
- Call seperation
- Rejection of unwanted calls
-
- From Lineplex Ltd, Fairmile House, High Street, Ripley, Surrey GU23 6AN
- Tel 01483 211858; Fax 01483 211632. Price is UKP135 + VAT
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Call barring
-
- Q: Will BT provide a line with all outgoing calls disabled except to
- Mercury?
-
- As it happens they will, if you subscribe to network services (Call
- Barring). They used to try blocking Mercury 131 as well, when a
- caller used Call Barring, but that nice Mr Oftel had a word with them
- about it...
-
-
- Q: Is it possible to bar reverse charge calls on a line that allows
- incoming calls?
-
- For payphone lines, BT add a (very annoying) tone for the first minute of
- incoming calls, to indicate to the operator that this line is not to
- accept reverse harge calls.
-
- I am not sure of the details, but am fairly certain this is an option you
- can ask for, just tell them you have a private payphone on the line. You
- may have to pay for it, possibly combined with meter pulsing.
-
-
- Q: What are the newly announced plans for barring 0898 Adult Entertainment
- premium-rate numbers?
-
- Phoning one of these numbers now requires use of a PIN (personal
- identification number) from your telephone, and they will only provide
- you with such a number if you **ask** for one. This number is
- required for 0898 Premium rate numbers, {*} and also for Voda's 0338
- number range.
- ----
-
- Subject: Engaged lines
-
- Q: If someone's number is permanently engaged, what can you do?
-
- Phone the operator. They can forward you to the operator local to that
- phone who is able to tell you if the receiver hasn't been replaced
- properly, by listening into the line. Lines that are off hook for more
- than a certain period can sometimes return a 'number unobtainable'
- tone when dialled.
-
-
- Q: What can BT do about a phone off the hook?
-
- BT used to use a 'howler', but this is belived to have been
- discontinued several years ago because of the risk of ear damage if
- someone picked up an extension phone once the "graduated howler" had
- reached full volume. [My TXE4 exchange "parked the call" after 20
- seconds and went quiet after 1 minute.]
-
- BT can request that you do not leave your telephone off the hook. If you
- continue to leave the phone in this manner then apparently you are
- blocking a line at the exchange.
-
- BT have withdrawn their service from several people who, after being
- warned, have continued to leave their telephones off the hook.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Automatic announcements
-
- Q: What are the meanings of the various automatic announcements?
-
- [anyone want to offer some to add to this list?]
-
- 'The Number you have dialled is not accepting calls at present.'
-
- - The called party had Incoming Call Barring (*261#) set, costs
- UKP7 per quarter.
-
- 'Please hold the line while we try to connect you. The number you are
- calling, knows you are waiting.'
-
- - Called party has call waiting. {*} This message is now interspersed
- with a Ring Tone.
-
- 'Sorry, your call is not being answered, please try later.'
-
- - Call waiting set, but they rejected the waiting call or ignored the
- five-second bleep. Recall (wait for dial tone) 0 turns off the bleep to
- reject the incoming call. Your caller is told that the call cannot be
- connected. If you reject a waiting call, no more calls will be offered
- until your number is free.
-
- 'Please hold the line, calls to this number are being diverted'
-
- - Called party has call diversion set (you may only get this
- announcement for call diversion on no reply).
-
- 'Sorry, the number you have called is not available'
-
- - Number is temporarily out of service.
-
- 'Sorry, the service requested is not available from this line'
-
- - You haven't rented the Network Service you're trying to use.
-
- 'The number you have dialled has not been recognised, please check and
- try again'
-
- - Number does not exist.
-
- 'Sorry, you have dialled an invalid service code, please replace the
- handset and consult your instructions'
-
- - You misdialled a network service code.
-
- 'This number is not accepting calls at present, please try later'
-
- - When calling an I/C barred number from System X to System X.
-
-
- Q: What are those 'Doh dah dee' tones?
-
- The "Doh dah dee" is usually known as "Special Information Tone" or SIT.
- Frequency Cadence
- 950+-50Hz 330+-70ms 0 to 30ms between tones
- 1400+-50Hz 330+-70ms
- 1800+-50Hz 330+-70ms
- 1000+-250ms pause
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Chargecards
-
- Q: I want to get a BT Chargecard, the problem seemed to be that you need
- to be a current customer (have a phone) to be able to get one. Is this
- so? If it is why is it so?
-
- It is now possible to bill directly to most major credit cards,
- ie. you don't personally require a residential line to apply for a
- card. BT Chargecard can be reached on 0800 345 144
-
-
- Q: Why can't I direct dial with my BT chargecard on Cellnet ?
-
- Apparently BT have not yet put the infrastructure in for direct-dial from
- any Cellnet phone, though operator calls are possible. Funny thing is,
- you can't make even operator calls from Vodafone phones, even though you
- can supposedly make them from any country in the world with a BT
- Chargecard.
-
-
- Q: What itemisation do I get with a BT Chargecard?
-
- On your bill, you are told what number you called and how much it cost,
- but not where it was made from.
-
-
- Q: What service do you get with the Mercury Calling Card?
-
- 3 levels of service.
- - Premier = world wide
- - UK = uk only
- - 3 call = 3 nominated numbers only.
-
- Access is via any phone line on a 0500 number (phone on 0500 100 505 for
- more info). There is a surcharge for operator connected calls, but if you
- had to do this because the BT phone wasn't capable of DTMF, there is no
- surcharge.
-
- If you have a Mercury account you can have the Calling Card bill
- integrated with that. If you don't, or you choose not to, you can still
- have a card and be sent a seperate bill. The bill includes full itemisation
- of both called and calling number. The Mercury card is cheaper than BT's
- for UK calls.
-
- Mercury's calling card number cannot be directly called from an Orange
- phone. To use it, you must dial the Orange operator and ask them to
- connect you. There is a fee levied for this.
-
-
- Q: What service do you get with BT's Chargecard
-
- - Quickcall - only one number can be dialled using the card.
- - All numbers in the UK.
- - All numbers worldwide.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Other Telephone services
-
- Q: What is AT&T Direct?
-
- AT&T Direct is a way to contact the AT&T operator in the USA without
- having to ring any operator in the UK (or whichever country you happen
- to be in). It offers a means of calling, (normally) without the use
- coins, without going through the operator, avoiding high hotel
- surcharges when travelling. Calls can be placed to the US from 130
- countries, and between more than 75 countries. AT&T place advers
- listing access numbers in international editions of most newspapers.
-
- You can contact AT&T in the UK, on 0800 064 0001 or via AT&T direct itself on
- 0500 89 7801. You would need an account with AT&T to use it to call the USA.
- It **may** be cheaper than dialling via BT but don't bank on this. Other phone
- companies in the US, such as Sprint on 0800 890 222, offer similar services.
-
- They have also announced an arrangement with Mercury for 0500 89 0011.
- calls to the US placed through this number should cost ~slightly less~.
-
- [Someone else proffered this information - Ed.]
-
- When I last compared rates between AT&T, Sprint, MCI, BT & Mercury (I have
- accounts with all five...don't ask why). Mercury seemed to be about the
- cheapest, but had the poorest quality connections. The real killer with
- all US carriers is the 1st minute charges. I think it costs over $3 for
- the first minute. It's not too bad averaged out over a long call, but if
- you get an answering machine on the other end you are stuffed. With
- Mercury if I get an answering machine it costs 10-20p for the call.
-
- I know MCI has a scheme that will allow UK residents to have MCI cards, I
- don't know about Sprint and AT&T.
-
- Here are the UK numbers for
-
- MCI: 0800 89 0222
- Sprint: 0800 89 0877
-
- Interglobe : 0500 581413
- WorldPlus : 0500 110110
- WorldDirect: 0800 181153
- TRT : 0800 890456
- Longshore : 0800 892340
-
- Most will allow calling cards to be set up to credit cards for UK
- residents, or allow billing direct to credit cards if you have a
- telephone PIN set up on your card.
-
-
- Q: What is Flextel?
-
- Flextel (0701 0701 701) - which uses part of the 0956 (Mercury One2One)
- number range - is a personal numbering service. It is NOT a Mercury
- product. Flextel like to call it a **flexible** numbering
- service. Since 7 June 1995, Flextel have also been using 0701 codes.
-
- Basically you buy a Flextel number and just tell Flextel where you want
- calls that number to be connected. They then connect them. If you want
- the destination changed, you simply tell Flextel what you want it changed
- to. In a little while you also will be able to update the destination by
- DTMF input.
-
- Standard service subscribers have nothing to pay apart from the annual
- charge. There is no monthly bill, no hiddden cost. The caller pays for
- the whole of the call. For calls from BT a small translation fee is
- charged to the caller. This fee is significantly less than 1 penny per
- minute over normal trunk cheap rate. Peak rate rises to just over 2p/min.
- For call from some other operators. there is now an additional fee. The
- small fee is sufficient to onward route calls to all normal UK numbers.
- (Connection charge UKP141, Annual service charge UKP28.20 both incl. of
- VAT). See <URL:http://www.flextel.co.uk/> for their info.
-
-
- Q: What ways are there of calling the US cheaper than BT or Mercury?
-
- Swiftcall (0171) 488 2001 have service to North America, a few Asian
- countries, Australia, and Israel. You subscribe by calling them and
- quoting your VISA or Access details. They debit your credit card by
- UKP23.50 (UKP20 + VAT) and set up an account with that value. Call
- charges, at the moment [16 Mar 94], are as follows
-
- UK-USA/Canada Normal Rate (Mon 09.00 - Fri 21.00) 24p/min
- UK-USA/Canada Cheap Rate (Fri 21.00 - Mon 09.00) 20p/min
-
- (remember to add on the cost of the 0171 call to their UK switch & VAT)
-
- Once your account is set up you dial an access number, enter your 9-digit
- PIN and then you're given American Dial Tone (provided by Sprint - 'phone
- +1 700 555 4141 on the US dialtone to hear). There are no minimum usage
- surcharges. When you have used your paid for units you can 'phone them up
- and purchase more. You can write them a letter giving specific
- authorisation if you are concerned.
-
- [Comparison at October, 1993: Sources - Swiftcall/ jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk.
- BT column includes Option 15; BT Prices at 15 May 1994]
-
- Destination Swiftcall BT BT PremierLine Mercury
- band
- Australia 67p 58.2p 6 49.4p 61.9p
- Canada/USA 34p 46.6p 4 39.6p 38.4p
- Hong Kong 65p 81.1p 8 69.0p 77.4p
- India 100p 141.0p 12 119.8p 101.7p
- Israel 100p 108.1p 9 91.9p 96.5p
- Japan 100p 126.5p 11 107.6p 98.6p
-
- To call Use
- Australia BT or Mercury
- Canada/USA Swiftcall
- Hong Kong Swiftcall
- India Swiftcall or Mercury
- Israel Mercury or BT
- Japan Mercury or Swiftcall
-
- [BT reduced prices to Australia from Feburary 94]
-
- Telepassport by Mastercall (01933) 401552 offer up to 70% discounts on US
- calls. For a fixed one-off fee of UKP25, the user gets a New York
- phone number which, after dialling and hanging up, calls back the UK
- number with a US dialling tone. The UK user can then make calls or faxes
- anywhere in the US at 50 cents perminute any time of the day.
-
- Telepassport is run by the editor of the Telecom Digest, Pat Townson
- (<ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu>). For further information, send the following email
- message
-
- To: tel-archives@lcs.mit.edu
- Subject: (will be ignored)
-
- reply ~user@email.address~
- info telepassport
- help
- end
-
- Business Communications Management (BCM) offer a service which gives you a
- US dialtone. Rates from the UK to the US or US to UK are $0.29/minute, 24
- hours a day, seven days a week, based on a 30-second minumum, six-second
- increment billing, $25/month minimum usage and a $50 sign-up fee.
-
- This is charged to your credit card (Master card/ Visa/ AmEx/
- Diners). Email <vthiry@netcom.com> for an ascii version of their brochure
- and price list.
-
- Dial International Telecom Limited (0181) 490 5000 offer a service similar
- to Swiftcall, you use your credit card to charge an account, and then can
- talk until the credit runs out.
-
- Uk -> US rates:
- Daytime rate: 20p/min
- cheap rate: 17p/min
- (where cheap/daytime are as BT define them)
-
- No connection/sign up fee, minimum pre-payment UKP25 at set up, payable by
- cheque, credit card or travellers cheques. London PoP.
-
- They also run a callback system, when you dial an 0181 number from abroad,
- and the company call you back and give you a UK dial tone.... (charged at
- the same rates as if you direct dialled from the UK to the country). Number
- they callback is preprogrammed, but user changeable.
-
- Special offer at the moment. For calling the states, if you set up with a
- pre-payment of UKP100 you get the first 1/2 Hr free...
-
- First Telecom plc (0171) 572 7700 (<enquiry@first-telecom.com>) offer
- 'Globally Speaking' [prices at 11 Mar 1996]
-
- Globally Weekend
- BT BT Speaking Special
- Country Standard Economy Standard Economy Offer
- USA 33.60 32.20 14p 14p 10p
- Other destinations at <URL:http://www.first-telecom.com/>
-
- Weekends are Friday 8pm to Monday 8am. They bill in 15 seconds
- increments, take no setup fee, and initial minimum purchase is UKP10
- (UKP11.75 incl. VAT). If prepaying UKP100 they offer 2% discount, if
- prepaying UKP200 they give 3% discount. They take credit cards, and
- you can give them authorisation to charge when your account is running
- 'low'. It is also possible to call US 800 numbers at the above
- charges.
-
-
- Q: Who are ACC?
-
- ACC Long Distance UK Ltd
- 414 Chiswick High Road
- London
- W4 5TF
-
- Telephone: (0181) 995 3144
- Fax: (0181) 995 8230
-
- There is no membership fee, signup fee or monthly fee's on the ACCess
- 1601 service.
-
- Calls are charged to the nearest second and with a minimum charge of 3
- seconds. International calls are billed to the nearest six second
- increment.
-
- Billing is monthly and includes a fully itemised statement. Bills can
- be paid on account, via Direct Debit or via a Visa or Mastercard
- credit card. Check if you wish to use Visa Delta debit card or
- similar.
-
- ACCess 1601 Residential service available on DIGITAL exchanges:
- [at November 1994, supplied by brian@emcentre.demon.co.uk]
-
- Standard Economy Weekend
-
- National Calls over 56.4km 6.20 3.70 2.50
-
- National Calls up to 56.4km 5.50 2.60 2.25
-
- Local Calls, See Note 5.85 5.85 5.85
-
- Calls to PCN's 11.15 7.15 As Economy
-
- Calls to Mobile Phones 37.00 27.00 As Economy
-
- Calls to Premium Rate Services 39.00 33.20 As Economy
-
- NOTE: ACCess 1601 service is not designed for your local calls.
- However if used, local calls will be charged as stated.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Facsimile/ FAX machines
-
- Q: Where can I get a FAX switch from?
-
- HCS Global.... They have London and Scottish outlets. They make an
- excellent product that can do voice, Modem & Fax... cost is about
- UKP120-150. Cheap models can be obtained for a good deal less. RJB
- Communications (01932) 253 131 has been reported as a cheaper source for
- these Faxlink devices.
-
-
- The Lineshare 5000 switch from Lineplex (01483) 211 632, its UKP195 +VAT
- but very versatile. There are four outputs Phone, TAM, FAX & modem. All
- the timings can be set, and also can be set to be different depending on
- whether the switch is set to "IN" or "OUT". It can also recognise that you
- are "OUT" and changeover to that mode - ditto it can recognise that you
- are "IN". You can set time windows for IN and OUT, and any of the four
- outputs can be selected by the caller (old models support just pulse
- dialling, newer ones two DTMF digits).
-
-
- Q: What is the legal status of messages transmitted via Facsimile?
-
- In the last few years, a law was passed making documents sent by Fax as
- legally valid as the original (but I'd still check with your lawyer).
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Radio Pagers
-
- Q: What are recommended pager companies in the UK?
-
- For many people choice is limited by coverage.
-
- Richard Cox (<richard@mandarin.com>) writes
-
- >>From my experience (including an independent user trial of the five main
- >>paging companies, in which I participated), I would **definitely** say that
- >>Hutchison provide the best service.
-
- >>Bottom of the list, by a wide margin, was Mercury ... and second to bottom
- >>was Vodapage. I used to use Vodapage - but not now I have tried
- >>Hutchison!
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Cellular Mobile phones
-
- Q: I was recently offered a "free" Cellphone with a product I
- bought. While I accept that it may be a condition of accepting the "free"
- phone that you also subscribe to their airtime, is it actually ~illegal~
- not to purchase an agreement with the phone?
-
- When you buy a phone from Dixons, say, rather than from a dealer (who gets
- a golden hello of 100 quid + from the air time provider) you don't have to
- sign up with anyone. All you get is a info pack for Call Connections
- (with Cellnet). The phone in this case is pre-registered with Cellnet,
- but that shouldn't prevent you from signing up with Vodafone.
-
- However, in your case, the supplier of your "free" phone is expecting a
- nice big kick-back when you sign up, and is unlikely to give you the phone
- without an airtime agreement. Usually this type of disreputable dealer
- will rip you off for rental and call charges, to recover the subsidy of
- the "free" phone. When the dealer says its illegal, what he really means
- is that its unprofitable for him!
-
- Also, beware of gotchas such as the following
- - peak time 0700-2300 including Saturdays (ie. all calls are at peak rate)
- - 90 days minimum notice after 12 months min contract = 15 months min contract
- - itemised billing 3-4 quid/month
- - call charges > Cellnet/vodafone reccommended prices
- - compulsory (and very expensive) insurance & maintenance contracts
-
-
- Q: Will calls from PSTN lines to mobile phones, in other countries, work?
- What premium will I pay above the normal charges?
-
- Yes it will work. It costs the same as phoning a normal number in that
- country. One daft thing about the current charges is that it can cost less
- to phone a Eircell mobile phone in the Irish Republic from the UK than it
- costs to phone the car parked outside your window (if you would want to!).
-
-
- Q: Will inbound access to UK mobiles work?
-
- You can call any UK mobile phone from overseas.
-
-
- Q: Where can I get details of Cellnet, Vodafone, One2One and Orange coverage?
-
- One of the two mobile phone magazines available ("What Cellular
- Phone"?) has coverage maps for Vodafone TACS, Vodafone GSM, Cellnet
- TACS and One2One in the back pages. You can also get Carphone
- Warehouse's (0800 424 800) colour catalogue, which includes the
- maps.
-
- Orange have info on 0800 286 286. There are some coverage maps made
- available for Orange at
- <URL:http://info.mcc.ac.uk/MCC/OtherPages/Orange/>.
-
-
- Q: Why do analogue cellphones have a 'soft' serial number, enabling alteration?
-
- It is a problem with the cellphone manufacturers, NOT the TACS/ETACS
- specification which states that the ESN should be hard coded within the
- phone. However this causes huge problems when the phone goes for
- servicing or gets broken etc. so many put the ESN in EPROM, EEROM, PROM
- etc. therefore cloning becomes very easy.
-
- With GSM or PCN (which is based upon the GSM spec, but at a higher
- frequency) the ESN's are stored in a different way. You also have two
- 'ESN' per phone, one for the phone itself and one for the SmartCard with
- the user details. Both have to be validated.
-
- Interestingly, authentication of a mobile subscriber for use in a TACS
- network is available. The method that is defined in Issue 4 of the
- TACS specification has been implemented my all the major vendors of
- mobile equipment.
-
- The network side of the implementation is already in place in the UK,
- Italy, China and the UAE. The system is cheap to introduce into the
- mobile phone and is also very secure. But operators like Vodafone
- and Cellnet have not promoted the use of TACS authentication.
-
-
- Q: What do Cellnet Callback and Vodafone Messenger offer?
- Who do I ring for help?
-
- Both offer storage of messages whilst your phone is switched off or
- unavailable (eg the network is busy or you don't have a signal), in fact
- the voicemail software is written by the same company.
-
- For Messenger help, ring the Messenger help line on 0836 823823. They will
- set up an account with a PIN so that only you can access your
- messages. They'll also tell you how to set up the divert etc.
-
- To activate the Messenger's recall box, dial 121 and ask the operator to
- activate the facility. However, if you do not use the recall service for
- more than 30 days, then you will have to re-call 121 and ask them to
- switch it back on again.
-
-
- Q: What prompts the Cellnet callback or Vodafone Messenger systems to
- call back?
-
- 1. The network was busy when there was an incoming call, but it now has
- spare capacity, or the switch/ cell site you were using had no capacity to
- pass the call.
-
- 2. You were in a no service area, but now you are available again.
-
- Each cellphone is required to register itself when it is turned on, or has
- moved into an area of coverage from no coverage. They also reregister
- every now and again just to ensure the network hasn't forgotten about
- them.
-
- When an outgoing call is made - this performs a registration.
-
- The network can also 'page' the phone, both for incoming calls and to send
- you callback messages. The paging can also occur to get the phone to
- reregister.
-
- Both networks have the facilities to try and help you with regards to
- coverage in your area, etc. Ring the operators from the cellphone.
-
-
- Q: Who are the 'People's phone'?
-
- People's Phone is a service of Cellular Communications Corp., a Vodafone
- and Cellnet service provider.
-
- People's Phone claim to offer a "better" deal for cellular phone users.
- They have a generally reasonable air-time contract, with various
- guarantees as to no increases etc., and attempt to be down-to-earth and
- trustworthy. Their marketing is targetted at (1) people who don't
- understand the wide variety of services and contracts in the cellular
- industry and (2) people who've had their fingers burned with other
- companies.
-
- Of particular note is their "Quota" system. You agree (in advance) a limit
- to your call charges each month. When you reach that limit, the network
- inhibits further outgoing calls until the beginning of the next billing
- period. Incoming calls still work. You can change this Quota at any time.
-
- Some other features of their system
- - No charge for unconnected calls
- - No charge for a call answered by a Vodafone recorded message; however, if
- your call is to a number on a different network (e.g. Cellnet or BT) then
- it will be chargeable.
- - No charge for any call lasting less than four seconds
- - In the event of a dropped call, if you dial 100 immediately afterwards the
- operator will reconnect the call with the first minute of the reconnected
- call free of charge.
-
-
- Q: How can I check the status of a GSM or PCN phone's divert and
- call waiting?
-
- The *# codes are specified in the GSM standard and thus apply to all
- GSM and PCN phones.
-
- F1 -> menu -> determine divert status
-
- *#21# to check number for "All Calls Divert"
- *#67# to check number for "On Busy Divert"
- *#61# to check number for "On No Reply Divert"
- *#62# to check number for "Divert if unreachable (off or out of range)
-
- *#43# to check call waiting status.
-
- To set divert:
- ** 21*number#
- ** 67 On Busy Divert
- ** 61 On No Reply Divert
- (etc)
-
-
- Q: What facilities are present in GSM and PCN handsets (like Orange and
- One2One) to counter 'phone thieves?
-
- The new breed of GSM/PCN mobile phones use a Smartcard or SIM. This
- makes it possible to use any valid card in your phone. It also means
- that the phone number will change depending on the card. Both the
- mobile and SIM are validated before a call is set up. Therefore if the
- mobile is reported stolen it won't work even with a valid card.
- GSM and PCN both make use of encryption.
-
- [Robin Fairburns writes:]
-
- >>The security applies to the air path between the mobile and the base
- >>station ... and it's not as strong as they would like you to believe
- >>-- someone with the sorts of resources that GCHQ has can crack it in
- >>some modest number of minutes. If you think about it for a moment or
- >>two, you'll realise that the only way you could have an encrypted path
- >>right the way to the receiving telephone would be if that had
- >>decryption capability. On the whole, I would prefer a mobile that let
- >>me call anyone to one that was "in principle" totally secure.
-
- >>It'll deter the casual idiot with his mobiles scanner, however.
- >>Legally speaking, the landline can only be tapped in course of
- >>engineering work (information gained from which should not be allowed
- >>to propagate), or subject to a warrant signed by the home secretary.
-
- >>Of course
-
- >>- a) if you believe that you'll believe anything, and
- >>- b) if you trust _him_, you probably don't care about the government
- >> having free access to any calls you make.
-
-
- Q: What are the functions possible with Hutchison's Voice messaging
- service?
-
- After you've keyed in your PIN etc.
-
- Message retrieval:
-
- 2 delete last msg
- 3 play messages most recent first
- 4 play messages oldest first
- 5 replay last msg heard
- 6 play all msgs
- 7 play time and date information
- 9 forward msg (enter mailbox number followed by #)
-
- Extended forwarding:
-
- 13 to enter extended forwarding
- 2 confirm msg to be forwarded
- 7 to prepend a comment
- 9 to append a comment
- 5 to listen to complete message with comments
- 6 followed by # to actually send the message
- 10 to return to normal message retrieval mode.
-
- Q: What are the phone numbers for the GSM network SMS 'message centres'.
-
- Key:
- MT = Mobile Terminated SMS
- MO = Mobile Originated SMS
- Text = text-based input
- TAP = Telocator Alphanumeric Protocol (a paging standard)
-
- Inter-network codes:
- Incoming: Mobiles from this network can be sent messages from external
- SCsOutgoing: The SC on this network can send messages to mobiles
- connected to other networks
- RemoteSC: Mobiles on this network can send MO messages to SCs on
- other networks
- UK-in: Network can receive SMS messages from UK OLO SCs
- UK-out: SC can send SMS messages to UK OLO subscribers
-
- DTMF access to MT:
- Vodafone 0385 490490
-
- Modem access to MT:
- Vodafone 0385 499499, Text, 7E1, 2400
- Cellnet 0860 980480, TAP, 8N1, 14400
- Orange 0973 100602, Text, ?, ?
- One2One ?, TAP, ?, ? (on test)
-
- Inter-network:
- Orange ?
- One2One ?
- Cellnet Incoming, Outgoing, RemoteSC
- Vodafone RemoteSC
-
- MO to MT:
- Vodafone +44 385 016 005
- Orange +44 973 100 973
- Cellnet (on test), ?
- One2One ?
-
- MO to elsewhere:
- Vodafone Paknet
- Orange ?
- Cellnet ?
- One2One ?
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Phone Call charges
-
- Q: Why are some numbers charged for when they don't exist?
-
- Seeing as how charging starts upon b-answer it's unlikely, unless they
- consider the through-connection of the voice message telling you that the
- number is non-existant as the b-answer. If so, I agree that this is wrong.
-
- CCITT [now ITU] E.231 recommends that no charge should be made for
- calls which terminate on services for suspended, cancelled or
- transferred subscribers. However, there is also E.124, which is
- entitled "Discouragement of frivolous international calling to
- unassigned or vacant numbers answered by recorded announcements
- without charge". This recommends that the provisions of E.231 may be
- suspended if it is determined that calls to specific out of service
- numbers are "predominantly frivolous."
-
- This situation often occurs with the Cellular networks. As things stand
- right now, only calls that are answered get charged. Calls that get engaged
- or ring tones ~ONLY~ are not charged.
-
- Exception: calls that route to a mobile network (or to a direct-dialling-in
- PABX) and THEN divert to an external number, are charged from the moment the
- diversion takes place, even if the diverted leg of the call fails to connect
- (for whatever reason).
-
- But, in the context, answered can mean "answered by the mobile network on
- behalf of the called party". Of course we all know that phrase is a con,
- but BT insisted on the Cellular networks agreeing to do this, before they
- would allow them to interconnect with the BT network. Mercury followed suit!
-
- A cellular network answers calls on behalf of the called party (and plays
- that annoying announcement) when either: (a) it can't get a response from
- the called telephone (even if this is solely due to congestion in its own
- network) or (b) the telephone is rung for 45 seconds without a reply.
-
-
- Q: What are the costs of running 0345 and 0800 number services?
-
- (pence per minute approx. These are the costs to the holder of the line.)
- Peak Standard Off-Peak
- 0345 13 10 7
- (+cost to caller 4.4 3.2 1)
- 0800 16 12 9
-
- Try also contacting British Airways Speedwing who are reselling their bulk
- purchased time for these services on to other potential users. They are
- offering between 17-20% discounts depending on usage. The sevice is
- called SpeedLine and sounds curious only in so much as the only thing you
- seem to get from SpeedLine is an order/service. BT do everything else
- including billing you.
-
- Call Speedwing on (0181) 564 1000; Peter Jones is on (0181) 564 1489.
-
- [info given by Alan Jay - alanj@ibmpcug.co.uk, 14 feb 94]
-
-
- Q: What are the current phone-call costs?
-
- [See seperate postings, <URL:http://www.pobox.com/%7Etis/>, or contact
- your telephone provider]
-
- Q: What is an 'average' 'phone bill for the US, as a comparison?
-
- [from julian@bongo.tele.com]
-
- >>The average bill with "Unlimited local calling" in Pacific Bell territory
- >>is $13-14 per month. Of course Long Distance increases that. I have some
- >>lines that are used for local calls only - two modem lines - They are busy
- >>about 16 hours per day each. I pay $13 and change per month for each line
- >>
- >>The average U.S. residential line is used 20 minutes per day.
-
-
- Q: So how do the Americans price their 'phone calls then?
- (and other myths)
-
- [from julian@bongo.tele.com]
-
- >> Also note that 'local' in the US often means 'own exchange', whereas for
- >> BT is is charging-group related, which usually means all the exchanges in
- >> your local area.
-
- In the U.S., most phone companies have several "tarrifs" or rates. For
- example in Pacific Bell Southern California. You can get "measured
- service" which means local calls are charged at $0.10 per min. Or
- variations of the above, say so many free local calls, and any above that
- number are measured.
-
- You can also get "unlimited local calling". For a fixed fee, you get all
- the local calls you want. The "local calling area" is usually a 8 -16 mile
- radius. Unlimited local calls for residential use costs me about $14.00
- per month. Long distance calls are extra.
-
- So unless "own exchange" is a rural one with dispersed subscribers local
- calling areas encompass up to hundreds of exchanges as is the case in the
- Los Angeles area.
-
- [For comparison,
- $14.00 is about UKP9, or about UKP27 per quarter, against BT's quarterly
- rental of UKP25 (or very close, at 17/04/1995, + VAT). ]
-
-
- Q: What happens with the cost of calls which last over two or more charge
- bands?
-
- In a GPO Strowger exchange this situation was handled by splitting a unit
- into 10 part-units. At changeover, therefore, you'd be over/undercharged
- by no more than 10%.
-
- With a crossbar, the "undercharge" was specified by PO/BT as an
- exchange facility (on the basis that a call must never be
- overcharged). The difference between Strowger and later systems was
- that timing of the subsequent periods proceeded in units of 10/10ths
- of nominal time whereas Strowger always gave 11/10ths on subsequent
- units (and between 10 and 11/10ths on initial).
-
- This was emulated by digital exchanges. Some old crossbar exchanges
- would charge the call at the original rate. With universal per-second
- charging, this is no longer the case.
-
- ----
-
- Subject: Other Telecoms info
-
- Q: Where can I get an old style BT phone box from ?
-
- A couple of people suggested looking in small ad's in Sunday newspapers,
- Private Eye or Exchange and Mart. One or two people suggested contacting
- BT directly, but nobody claimed to have tries this or gave any suggestions
- as to which bit of BT to try. Mark Whidby (M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk) remembers
- seeing a company with a yard full of 'phone boxes near Staleybridge.
-
- (Samples from Exchange and Mart.)
-
- One company in Essex (01277 899 495, Michael Smith) does them in off-street
- condition for UKP350+delivery+VAT or reconditioned at around
- UKP975+delivery+VAT.
-
- Another company (0161 767 9259) does them for UKP375+delivery (off-street)
- or UKP1250+delivery reconditioned. They said that there was no VAT
- (presumably they're a smaller company who aren't VAT registered?).
-
- They told me that customers usually found it cheaper to buy them
- reconditioned than to resort to DIY. Reconditioning includes stripping,
- filling and repainting the cast iron frame, replacing glass (including the
- `Telephone' signs), guilding the crowns and refurbishing the doors
- Customers who did their own refurbishment usually did it for pleasure or
- sentimental value rather than to save money.
-
- Delivery would cost UKP125 (from their Birmingham depot to me in Essex),
- or I could collect if I happened to have a lorry and a fork-lift.
-
- Suggestions for uses were showers, drinks cabinets, fish tanks, to grow
- plants in, to house a telephone, ...
-
-
- Q: So tell me some more about these old phone boxes
-
- The original K2 boxes (the ones with 6x3 almost-square panes in three of
- the foor walls) had teak doors. There aren't many of these left. What
- most people think of as a "red telephone box" is the K6 (with 8x3 very
- unsquare panes in three of the foor walls); they have metal doors, as do
- the later K8s.
-
- Some K2s and K6s are old enough to qualify for Listed Building status.
- There are 216 listed K2s (213 of these in London!), and 996 listed K6s.
-
- [Source: the excellent book "Telphone boxes" by Gavin Stamp,
- Chatto & Windus, 1989.]
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- [end of uk.telecom FAQ part 2/3]
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