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- Summary: Frequently Asked Questions in discussions of the author
- J.R.R. Tolkien and his (sub)created world Middle-earth,
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- TOLKIEN NEWSGROUPS FAQ
-
- by Steuard Jensen
-
- (Created 17 Aug 1999)
- (Last updated 18 Jan 2004)
-
-
-
- For many years, the Tolkien Usenet newsgroups have been home to a
- pair of excellent Frequently Asked Questions lists about Tolkien and
- Middle-earth, compiled by William D. B. Loos. These sources contain a
- wealth of information, but are no longer maintained (the last update
- seems to have been in July 1996). This means that quite a few issues
- of current interest to the groups are not fully addressed in those
- documents.
-
- This FAQ supplements, updates, and expands on the earlier ones,
- though it is not meant to replace them entirely. It includes new and
- corrected information on some of the old discussions, numerous entries
- on topics not covered in the older FAQs, and a broad discussion of the
- Tolkien newsgroups and common standards of netiquette. This FAQ is
- intended both as an introduction for newcomers to the newsgroups and as
- a source of information for anyone exploring Middle-earth.
-
- The official HTML version of the FAQ is on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/
-
- The plain text version is posted to Usenet on the 22nd of each month
- and is also available on the web, at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/TolkNgFaq.txt
-
- For a unified and easy to use interface to this FAQ, the Loos FAQs, and
- others, consider visiting the Tolkien Meta-FAQ, at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/
-
- I would like to give my sincere thanks to the many, many people on
- the newsgroups and elsewhere who have given criticism, suggestions, and
- encouragement as I wrote this FAQ. This project would never have
- succeeded without their wonderful support.
-
- Steuard Jensen
- sbjensen@uchicago.edu
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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Table of Contents
-
- Sections/questions marked: * have been revised since the last release
- ** are new since the last release
-
- I. Changes Since the Last Release *
-
- II. Newsgroups and Netiquette
-
- A. Information on the Tolkien Newsgroups
- 1. What newsgroups are we talking about again?
- 2. Why are there two groups?
- 3. Do I have to have a Ph.D. in Tolkienology to post?
- 4. What questions and topics are appropriate?
- 5. What does a tilde (~) in the subject mean? and
- Is it acceptable to post messages with sexual content?
- 6. What common mistakes should I try to avoid?
- 7. What do all the abbreviations used on the groups mean?
-
- B. The Basics of Netiquette
- 1. What is the proper subject line for my post?
- 2. What should I do when replying to an earlier article?
- For example, should I "top post" or "bottom post"?
- 3. When should I "cross-post" to multiple newsgroups?
- 4. I am able to post my messages with HTML formatting. Should I?
- 5. If someone insults me or otherwise makes me upset, should I
- flame them back?
- 6. Even if my reputation and honor are at stake?
- 7. Where can I go for more information on netiquette, and on
- Usenet in general?
-
- III. Debates and Discussion
-
- A. Story External Questions
- 1. What is the best order in which to read the books?
- 2. What books about Middle-earth are considered "canonical"?
- 3. How does _The Silmarillion_ as published differ from what
- Tolkien intended?
- 4. Which are "The Two Towers"?
- 5. Which books _about_ Tolkien are good, and which aren't?
- 6. Is Middle-earth Medieval?
- 7. Was Tolkien racist? Were his works?
- 8. Are there electronic versions of Tolkien's books?
- 9. Where can I report copyright violations that I observe?
-
- B. Story Internal Questions: Creatures and Characters
- 1. Did Balrogs have wings? *
- 2. Could Balrogs fly?
- 3. What was Tom Bombadil?
- 4. Did Elves have pointed ears?
- 5. Did Elves have beards?
- 6. What happened to Elves after they died?
- 7. Was Glorfindel of Rivendell the same as Glorfindel of Gondolin?
- 8. Who was Gil-galad's father?
- 9. Did Dwarf women have beards?
- 10. Was there "telepathy" in Middle-earth?
- 11. Did Sauron have a physical form during _The Lord of the
- Rings_?
- 12. What were the names of the Nazgul?
- 13. What was Gothmog (the lieutenant of Morgul)?
- 14. What was the origin of Orcs?
- 15. Were Orcs immortal, and what happened to them after death?
- 16. What was the relationship between Orcs and Goblins?
- 17. What was the origin of Saruman's Uruk-hai?
- 18. What was the origin of Trolls?
- 19. What were the giants (seen by Bilbo in _The Hobbit_)?
-
- C. Story Internal Questions: History and Happenings
- 1. Why didn't they just have an Eagle fly the Ring to Mt. Doom? *
- 2. Were the barrow blades magical? In what way?
- 3. Why didn't the Nazgul take the Ring at Weathertop?
- 4. Who killed the Witch-king, Merry or Eowyn?
- 5. Did Frodo and the other mortals who passed over the Sea
- eventually die?
- 6. Did Sam follow Frodo into the West?
- 7. What is known about the Blue Wizards?
- 8. Who was aware that a Balrog lived in Moria?
- 9. Did Elves and Dwarves generally get along?
- 10. Where was the Ring when Numenor was destroyed?
- 11. Who was the oldest inhabitant of Middle-earth?
-
- IV. External Resources
-
- A. Where else can I find general information about Middle-earth?
- 1. The Tolkien Meta-FAQ
- 2. The Tolkien FAQ and LessFAQ
- 3. The "FAQ of the Rings"
- 4. The Letters FAQ
- 5. Google's Usenet archive
-
- B. Where can I learn more about Tolkien's languages?
-
- C. Stories of Middle-earth in many forms
- 1. What editions of Tolkien's books in the US are best?
- 2. What is known about the current _Lord of the Rings_ movies?
- 3. Where can I find out about music related to Middle-earth?
-
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-
- I. CHANGES SINCE THE LAST RELEASE
-
- Since the last text release, I have expanded the question on Balrog
- wings to explicitly mention the very different definitions of the word
- "wing" that have been used in the debate. I have also slightly
- expanded the Eagles question to emphasize points of remaining
- disagreement.
-
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-
- II. NEWSGROUPS AND NETIQUETTE
-
- When discussing Tolkien (or anything else) online, it is important
- to know at least a little about the "culture" of the discussion forum
- that you are participating in. The information in this section is
- intended to give an idea of "appropriate" behavior on the Tolkien
- Usenet newsgroups. To make our discussions as enjoyable as possible,
- every participant should try to be familiar with what follows.
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- II.A. INFORMATION ON THE TOLKIEN NEWSGROUPS
-
- 1. What newsgroups are we talking about again?
-
- There are several Usenet newsgroups specific to Tolkien and his
- works. However, the two most widely read and distributed of these are
- rec.arts.books.tolkien and alt.fan.tolkien, commonly abbreviated either
- r.a.b.t or RABT and a.f.t or AFT, respectively.
-
- The official rec.arts.books.tolkien charter can be found at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/newsgroups/RABTcharter.txt
-
- Alt.fan.tolkien does not have a formal charter.
- -------
-
- 2. Why are there two groups?
-
- Originally, AFT was the only Tolkien newsgroup on Usenet. RABT was
- created (when the approval vote passed on 26 Mar 1993) as a replacement
- for AFT which would be carried by a larger fraction of news servers.
- However, AFT was never removed, and both groups currently enjoy
- substantial readership. While only RABT has a formal charter (see
- question II.A.1 for reference), the two groups are virtually identical
- in intended content.
-
- Many participants see a tendency for RABT to be somewhat more
- "scholarly" in tone while AFT is a bit more "conversational", and some
- suggest that this distinction is useful and should be encouraged.
- Other participants draw less of a distinction between the two groups,
- and often believe that a difference in focus would be both undesirable
- and impossible to achieve. In practice, everyone decides for
- themselves how they want to treat the two groups, and most people
- generally don't complain one way or the other.
- -------
-
- 3. Do I have to have a Ph.D. in Tolkienology to post?
-
- By no means! People with any amount of Tolkien "lore" are welcome
- to participate. It is advisable, however, to have read _The Hobbit_
- and _The Lord of the Rings_ before spending much time here, as
- otherwise you run the risk of many, many spoilers for both books.
-
- When you do participate in discussions, just use whatever Tolkien
- knowledge you have: you can have great ideas regardless of how much
- you've read. Occasionally, others will cite sources (often obscure but
- just as often authoritative) that weaken or disprove your arguments.
- When this happens (as it does to every one of us), nobody will think
- less of you for not knowing the reference; treat it as a chance to
- learn something new about Middle-earth.
- -------
-
- 4. What questions and topics are appropriate?
-
- Virtually any topic related (even distantly) to Tolkien and his
- works is fair game. If you post a purely "factual" question (like "How
- many Ringwraiths were there?"), it's a good idea to explain why you're
- asking: we periodically see questions from students who hope we will do
- their homework for them, and the last thing we want to do is help
- people to avoid reading the books!
-
- It is appreciated if articles that have absolutely nothing to do
- with Tolkien have subject lines beginning with "OT:" ("Off Topic"). The
- Tolkien newsgroups are a sufficiently social community that threads
- often do drift away from their initial topics, and while this should
- not be discouraged, it is polite to label it when it happens. On the
- other hand, off topic discussions that get too intense or go on too
- long can interfere with others' enjoyment of the groups, and should be
- avoided.
-
- Binary files, such as images or sounds, are NEVER appropriate in a
- non-binaries newsgroup. To share a binary file with people in the
- Tolkien groups, you have two main options. One is to find an
- appropriate newsgroup in the alt.binaries.* hierarchy, post the file
- there, and then post a message here telling us where to look. Another
- (more common) method is to put the file on the Web and post the URL on
- the newsgroups.
- -------
-
- 5. What does a tilde (~) in the subject mean? and
- Is it acceptable to post messages with sexual content?
-
- Articles posted to these newsgroups occasionally contain comments
- that some consider inappropriate for younger readers. After much
- discussion, most participants agreed to mark messages with _sexual_
- content with a tilde in the subject line. Individuals can then create
- killfiles to screen out such messages as desired. While not everyone
- agrees that such a system is beneficial, following this convention is
- the polite thing to do. The newsgroup charter recommends the use of
- ROT-13 "encryption" for this purpose, but this has become less common.
- -------
-
- 6. What common mistakes should I try to avoid?
-
- By and large, the participants in the Tolkien newsgroups try to
- judge others based on their ideas rather than on details of grammar and
- posting style. However, there are a few types of simple mistakes that
- tend to cause some level of bias and annoyance among many group
- members, which in turn can distract them from your real message. Most
- of these are covered in the "Netiquette" section below.
-
- One common mistake of this type that is not related to netiquette is
- confusing the singular and plural forms of common Elvish words. On the
- Tolkien newsgroups, these words are so familiar that the phrase "Manwe
- is a Valar" sounds just as jarring and strange as "Finrod is an Elves."
- To reduce this problem, a list of some of the most commonly confused
- singular/plural pairs is given below. Note the patterns!
-
- Singular: Vala Maia Elda Noldo Sinda Teler Istar Adan
- Plural: Valar Maiar Eldar Noldor Sindar Teleri Istari Edain
-
- Another issue that arises periodically is whether or not _The Lord
- of the Rings_ should be referred to as a "trilogy". Tolkien said quite
- clearly in Letter #165 that "The book is _not_ of course a 'trilogy'",
- and some people make a point of correcting those who use the term.
- However, in Letter #252, Tolkien himself refers to "my trilogy", so
- most of us agree that using the term is an acceptable shorthand, if
- nothing else.
- -------
-
- 7. What do all the abbreviations used on the groups mean?
-
- Some names and phrases come up so frequently on the Tolkien
- newsgroups that they are often abbreviated for convenience. A few of
- the very most common are defined below; these definitions are excerpted
- from Sir Confused-a-Lot's AFT Glossary, at:
-
- http://glossary.trask.org.uk/
-
- JRRT: John Ronald Reuel Tolkien
- ME: Middle-earth
- LotR: _The Lord of the Rings_
- FotR: _The Fellowship of the Ring_
- TT: _The Two Towers_
- RotK: _The Return of the King_
- Silm.: _The Silmarillion_
- UT: _Unfinished Tales_
- HoMe: the "History of Middle-earth" series
- Letters: _The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien_
-
- NG: Newsgroup
- TEUNC: "Tolkien Eccentric Unusual Nut Cases", an eGroup of
- Tolkien fans, some of whom frequent the newsgroups
- LOL: Laughing Out Loud
- ROTFL: Rolling On The Floor Laughing
-
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-
- II.B. THE BASICS OF NETIQUETTE
-
- 1. What is the proper subject line for my post?
-
- Make sure that the "Subject:" line of your post matches the topic
- that you are discussing. Be concise, but specific: subject lines such
- as "The Lord of the Rings" or "Tolkien" give no useful information
- about the contents of your post. Note that this does not only apply to
- the first post in a thread: if you see that the subject line no longer
- matches the topic of a thread, change it when you reply! Also, follow
- the "OT:" convention for off-topic posts (mentioned in question II.A.4
- above).
-
- When you do change the subject line, it is polite to indicate the
- subject of the previous post. For example, "Balrog Wings" might become
- "Balrog Flight (was Balrog Wings)" and then "Eagles (was Balrog
- Flight)". This helps people follow the history of the thread.
- -------
-
- 2. What should I do when replying to an earlier article?
- For example, should I "top post" or "bottom post"?
-
- First and foremost, make sure to retain the attribution of any
- quoted text, so others know who said the things you are replying to.
- Almost equally important, make sure that you trim the previous post as
- much as possible:
-
- * If you are replying to one specific comment in the previous
- article, delete all of the previous text except that comment. If
- the comment is at all long, try to trim it down to its essence.
- Type your reply directly beneath the quoted comment.
-
- * If you are replying to several distinct points individually, quote
- each one as above and type your reply immediately below it (and
- above the next point).
-
- * If you are replying to a long section that cannot be easily
- trimmed down (for example, an original poem or story), quote only
- its first and last lines (and perhaps put "[snip]" or "..." on a
- line in between the two). If there are particular pieces that
- you want to respond to individually, do so as described above.
-
- There are two general rules of thumb to follow in connection with
- the above guidelines:
-
- * Any article you post should have more lines of new text than lines
- of quoted text. It is generally acceptable to ignore this rule
- if the entire post (including basic headers and any signature) is
- short enough to fit on a single 24 line screen.
-
- * Any comments specifically replying to the previous article should
- come _below_ the relevant part of the previous article. This
- makes reading the article more like reading a conversation, and
- therefore much easier to follow.
-
- This obviously means that "top posting" is strongly discouraged: it
- forces readers to scroll up and down between the new and old material,
- and it usually involves quoting the entire previous post(s) untrimmed..
- Whether you call our practice "bottom posting", "middle posting", or
- "standard netiquette" is up to you.
-
- An example of a post that follows these guidelines can be found on
- the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/newsgroups/EssayDiscuss.txt
-
- This long message (from a discussion of my essay on Tom Bombadil) would
- be all but impossible to follow if the point by point replies were not
- organized as described above.
-
- Finally, make sure to keep the subject line up to date, as discussed
- in question II.B.1.
- -------
-
- 3. When should I "cross-post" to multiple newsgroups?
-
- Generally, you should post an article to the single most appropriate
- group: a question about _The Hobbit_ is more appropriate on
- rec.arts.books.tolkien than on rec.arts.books. However, there are cases
- when several groups are appropriate: a discussion of the influence of
- Tolkien's faith on his writings could be interesting to readers of both
- soc.religion.christian.roman-catholic and rec.arts.books.tolkien.
- (Cases in which more than two or three groups are truly appropriate are
- extremely rare!)
-
- In such cases, it is almost always better to "cross-post" the
- article to multiple groups than to post separately to each. To do
- this, list all of the relevant groups together on the "Newsgroups:"
- line, separated by commas but _no_ spaces (many posts here list
- "Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien"). Cross-posting
- has several advantages, the most important being that responses to a
- cross-posted article are also cross-posted. That ensures that everyone
- involved in the discussion sees every reply.
-
- Some internet service providers (notably AOL) misguidedly forbid
- cross-posting, probably because _inappropriate_ cross-posting is very
- bad netiquette and is often used to "spam" many groups at once. If you
- have this problem, it may be better to choose just one "best" group for
- your post than to post separate copies to multiple groups.
- -------
-
- 4. I am able to post my messages with HTML formatting. Should I?
-
- Generally, no. Many of us use simple text-based programs to read
- news, and posts with HTML formatting can be very difficult to read.
- You can generally turn off this behavior from the "Preferences" or
- "Options" section of your newsreader. For some newsreaders, you will
- need to change more than one setting to completely eliminate this
- behavior.
- -------
-
- 5. If someone insults me or otherwise makes me upset, should I flame
- them back?
-
- No.
-
- 6. Even if my reputation and honor are at stake?
-
- Feel free to post any corrections or differences in opinion that you
- feel are necessary. Feel free to indicate that you are hurt, unhappy,
- or insulted because of their comments. But by no means escalate the
- budding flame war, and try your hardest to be polite in your response:
- this tends to get the group's sentiments on your side far better than
- any exchange of name-calling ever could. People are usually fairly
- good at recognizing when someone is being terribly unfair. Yes, it is
- undoubtedly your right to flame if you want to, but the vast majority
- of the group would be happier if you did not.
-
- In general, try to give others the benefit of the doubt: with only
- text to go on, it's hard to judge their real intent. Could you have
- misread the insulting lines in their post? Could they have been
- speaking tongue in cheek? Maybe they only meant to tease you, not
- realizing that you would really be insulted. Assuming the worst is a
- depressing way to live one's life.
-
- Finally, be particularly careful not to reply to a "troll", someone
- who intentionally fishes for arguments and flames. These people seem
- to take great personal delight in inspiring people to anger or
- indignation; the best reaction to them is generally to ignore them
- altogether.
- -------
-
- 7. Where can I go for more information on netiquette, and on Usenet in
- general?
-
- One of the best places to start has always been the newsgroup
- news.announce.newusers. This group is home to a wide range of articles
- that provide introductory information about many aspects of Usenet
- news. Unfortunately, most of these articles are no longer being posted
- regularly to the group. It may be more effective to read archived
- copies of them at
-
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/
-
- Read the "Welcome to Usenet!" article there first.
-
- The information on netiquette and on Usenet in general in the
- news.announce.newusers articles remains very relevant today, but those
- articles are several years old. More recent information on similar
- topics can be found at the web sites associated with the
- news.newusers.questions newsgroup. A list of these sites around the
- world can be found at
-
- http://users.rcn.com/kateshort/nnq/nnqlinks.html
-
- (among many other places).
-
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-
- III. DEBATES AND DISCUSSION
-
- A great many questions about Tolkien and his books arise repeatedly
- on the Tolkien newsgroups. The starting point of each debate is the
- same almost every time, and it takes a long time for the discussion to
- reach "new ground." In the worst cases, bitter and longstanding
- arguments about the basics get in the way before new progress can be
- made at all.
-
- The purpose of a FAQ is to avoid this problem by setting down the
- basics in a common place so that the discussion can deal with new
- issues from the start. However, it is very difficult to balance the
- need for conciseness with the need for completeness: many debates that
- repeatedly appear on the Tolkien newsgroups have generated very large
- amounts of "known territory."
-
- Keep in mind that this FAQ provides only summaries of these debates:
- many of their subtleties are omitted for the sake of brevity. Most of
- these topics have been discussed at length by many intelligent people,
- but there are still cases where we do not agree on the answer. In these
- cases, it is extremely unlikely that any unambiguous "proof" of one
- position exists. With this in mind, try to be respectful toward those
- who disagree with you. To get more information on the usual content of
- common discussions, it is often helpful to browse those discussions
- themselves at the Google Groups Usenet archive (see question IV.A.5 for
- more information).
-
- Finally, be sure to read question III.A.2, dealing with "canonical"
- texts. This FAQ addresses only the state of Middle-earth after LotR
- was written, which corresponds roughly to the material included in the
- published _Silmarillion_. Details from earlier versions of the
- mythology will not be discussed in this document (and are generally
- given very limited weight in debates about the later state of the
- mythology).
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- III.A. STORY EXTERNAL QUESTIONS
-
- 1. What is the best order in which to read the books?
-
- This depends on each person's personal preferences. Unless you
- strongly dislike stories written for children, most recommend reading
- _The Hobbit_ first. _The Lord of the Rings_ is certainly next (feel
- free to skip the Prologue if you find it dull, and after the main text
- try to read at least Appendix A.I.v about Aragorn and Arwen).
-
- If you enjoy any part of the Appendices to LotR, there are things in
- Tolkien's other books that you are likely to enjoy as well. Most
- suggest reading _The Silmarillion_ and _Unfinished Tales_ next, in some
- order. Many people find the early parts of Silm. slow to read (like a
- history book or the Bible) and prefer the stories and essays in UT, but
- some of the best parts of UT will only make sense after reading Silm.
- (The Third Age stories in UT can be fully enjoyed even if you have only
- read LotR, and many of the Second Age stories and the general essays in
- Part 4 can be read then, too).
-
- For more details (and more books), try getting a personalized
- recommendation from the Custom Tolkien Book List, on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/books.html
-
- (This URL redirects to the longer and messier URL of the actual list.)
- -------
-
- 2. What books about Middle-earth are considered "canonical"?
-
- [I have written an essay on this topic, including general observations
- and my own approach. It is on the web at:
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TolkParish.html.]
-
- A "canonical" text is one which is believed to provide authoritative
- information about Middle-earth. By and large, all agree that _The Lord
- of the Rings_ is a canonical text, and most assign equal or near equal
- weight to _The Hobbit_ (the other books about Middle-earth published in
- Tolkien's lifetime are treated similarly). However, due to heavy and
- unmarked posthumous editing, _The Silmarillion_ is considered by many
- _not_ to be canonical (see question III.A.3 for details).
-
- People put various amounts of trust in the many drafts and essays in
- _Unfinished Tales_ and the "History of Middle-earth" series. In cases
- where Tolkien's intent seems particularly stable and clear, some trust
- these sources almost as much as _The Hobbit_ and LotR themselves. In
- practice, this means that most of the more trustworthy material is
- found in _Unfinished Tales_ and in volumes X-XII of the HoMe series.
- Opinions on how much to trust _The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien_ are
- mixed, but its contents are generally respected as long as they are not
- contradicted by other (more canonical) texts. The pictures in _J.R.R.
- Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator_ by Wayne Hammond and Christina Scull
- may also be considered somewhat canonical.
-
- It is important to note that many aspects of Middle-earth changed
- substantially over the course of Tolkien's life. Because of this,
- facts taken from the early versions of the mythology can be misleading
- or just plain wrong when used to draw conclusions about LotR or later
- versions of the mythology. This means that while the early versions
- can provide valuable hints about Tolkien's thoughts on an issue, they
- are rarely considered to provide definitive evidence for any position.
-
- The Custom Tolkien Book List (mentioned in question III.A.1)
- includes my own judgment and comments on the "canonicity" of each
- section of each book in the list. While those are just one person's
- opinions, they are fairly normal. The list can be found on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/books.html
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-
- 3. How does _The Silmarillion_ as published differ from what Tolkien
- intended?
-
- This is a complicated question that is essentially unanswerable:
- despite his lifelong effort, Tolkien never came close to completing
- _The Silmarillion_. At Tolkien's request, after his death his son
- Christopher (with some help from Guy Kay) worked to "bring the work
- into publishable form"; Christopher discusses the difficulties involved
- in the book's Foreword. To understand why _The Silmarillion_ took the
- form that it did (any why it is rarely considered "canonical", as
- mentioned in question III.A.2), it is worth exploring those editorial
- changes. [The full story can be found in the "History of Middle-earth"
- books, particularly _Morgoth's Ring_ and _The War of the Jewels_
- (volumes X-XI).]
-
- The most basic editorial decision was which writings to include in
- the book at all. The "Quenta Silmarillion" is of course the central
- text, but Tolkien also wrote numerous associated stories and essays.
- Charles Noad explored this question as part of his essay "On the
- Construction of 'The Silmarillion'" (published in _Tolkien's
- Legendarium_; see question III.A.5), where he suggests an "outline for
- 'The Silmarillion' as Tolkien may have intended it". In addition to the
- texts in the published book, Noad includes expanded versions of four
- stories: "The Lay of Leithian" (possibly in poetic form), "Narn i Chin
- Hurin", "The Fall of Gondolin", and "Earendil the Wanderer" (which
- Tolkien never even fully sketched). He also includes five
- "Appendices": writings about Middle-earth and its inhabitants such as
- "Laws and Customs among the Eldar" and the "Athrabeth Finrod ah
- Andreth" (most of these were published in HoMe X-XI). Sadly, a book
- with this outline could never be made satisfying with just the texts
- that Tolkien left us.
-
- Moving on to the texts that were actually included in _The
- Silmarillion_ as published, there were three types of problems to
- overcome. In the worst cases, there were crucial gaps in the narrative
- where Tolkien had never written more than an outline of the story (or
- where the most recent version was hopelessly outdated). Much more
- frequently, Tolkien's years of revisions led to factual inconsistencies
- between stories written at various times (especially between writings
- before and after _The Lord of the Rings_). And finally, Tolkien's
- writings differed markedly in tone, ranging from vivid narratives to
- terse annals to philosophical essays. To assemble a single text,
- consistent in style and detail, from such a range of source material
- clearly required substantial editing.
-
- Despite that pessimistic assessment, the vast majority of the
- published _Silmarillion_ is taken directly from Tolkien's work and
- seems to come quite close to what he intended, as far as it goes. (None
- of the "expanded" tales were ever completed, but what exists of them
- can be found for the most part in _Unfinished Tales_, _The Lays of
- Beleriand_, and the other "History of Middle-earth" books mentioned
- above.) Still, mild editing is not uncommon, and can be difficult to
- identify even by comparison to the source texts as published in HoMe.
- Thus, _The Silmarillion_ is often not treated as a final authority in
- scholarly discussions of Middle-earth. (A classic example is its
- mistaken ancestry of Gil-galad, as discussed in question III.B.8.)
-
- The greatest concern, of course, comes from those few cases where
- large gaps had to be filled by the editors. This happened to some
- extent for "Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin" and "Of the Voyage of
- Earendil and the War of Wrath", but the most substantial editorial
- "invention" came in the chapter "Of the Ruin of Doriath". The episode
- was of crucial importance and thus could not be left out or glossed
- over, but Tolkien had written almost no description of the event since
- 1930 (long before even _The Hobbit_ was published) and the mythology
- had changed drastically since then. Moreover, Tolkien was never happy
- with some aspects of the story, in particular with the question of how
- the Dwarves could invade Doriath despite the Girdle of Melian. The
- published version was directly inspired by some of Tolkien's drafts of
- the tale (those which seemed easiest to reconcile with the rest of the
- story), but was essentially rewritten to be consistent with the rest of
- the book and to include a few ideas from Tolkien's later writings.
- That meant some major changes: for example, in Tolkien's own drafts,
- the Nauglamir did not exist before it was made to hold the Silmaril
- (out of raw gold from Nargothrond), and Thingol was not slain until the
- full Dwarvish army attacked.
-
- In his comments on "Of the Ruin of Doriath" (an appendix to "The
- Tale of Years" in _The War of the Jewels_), Christopher Tolkien
- concludes with the regret that "the undoubted difficulties could have
- been, and should have been, surmounted without so far overstepping the
- bounds of the editorial function." Elsewhere in that book, at the end
- of the section "The Wanderings of Hurin", he speaks of other omissions
- and alterations, and says,
-
- it seems to me now, many years later, to have been an excessive
- tampering with my father's actual thought and intention: thus
- raising the question, whether the attempt to make a 'unified'
- _Silmarillion_ should have been embarked on.
-
- Whatever failings _The Silmarillion_ as published may have, I think
- that most of its readers are grateful to have it, and would assure
- Christopher Tolkien that his work was worthwhile. He undertook a great
- task in bringing it to print, and despite his later misgivings I think
- most would agree that he did an excellent job.
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-
- 4. Which are "The Two Towers"?
-
- Tolkien was never very happy with the title. In Letters #140 and
- #143 he considers many interpretations of it, each with its own
- rationale, and even comments that it could be left ambiguous. It
- seems, however, that he eventually settled on one interpretation.
-
- _J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator_ includes Tolkien's own
- final drawing for the cover of _The Two Towers_, which clearly shows
- Minas Morgul and Orthanc. These names are also given in the note at
- the end of _The Fellowship of the Ring_ in three-volume editions of
- LotR. Whether or not Tolkien wrote that note himself, he did see and
- approve it before it was published (as documented in Wayne Hammond's
- _J.R.R. Tolkien: A Descriptive Bibliography_).
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-
- 5. Which books _about_ Tolkien are good, and which aren't?
-
- A few disclaimers. First, this is a very subjective question, and
- what follows is largely a matter of individual opinion. This list was
- gleaned from discussions on the newsgroups and it reflects some level
- of consensus, but no verdict was unanimous. Second, this list is
- _very_ incomplete, but there simply isn't space to list all of the
- excellent scholarship on Tolkien that has been produced. Unfortunately,
- this means that only books will be included, and I will focus on only
- the best known of those (and even then, I'm sure some are missing). My
- apologies to anyone who has been overlooked.
-
- With that being said, these are some of the best secondary works
- about Tolkien, in no particular order. I have included general
- descriptions for books whose titles do not make their content clear.
-
- * _The Complete Guide to Middle-earth_, by Robert Foster. A
- detailed and very trustworthy glossary of people, places, and
- things in _The Hobbit_, LotR, and _The Silmarillion_, including
- page references to the original texts.
-
- * _[J.R.R.] Tolkien: A Biography_, by Humphrey Carpenter. (The
- initials are not part of the title in the USA.)
-
- * _The Annotated Hobbit_, by J.R.R. Tolkien, annotated by Douglas A.
- Anderson. Textual history and general comments (be sure to get
- the recent second edition).
-
- * _J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator_ by Wayne Hammond and
- Christina Scull. Pictures by Tolkien and accompanying
- discussion.
-
- * _The Road to Middle-earth_ and _J.R.R. Tolkien: Author of the
- Century_, by Tom Shippey. Literary analysis and criticism.
-
- * _Splintered Light_ and _A Question of Time_, by Verlyn Flieger.
- Literary analysis and criticism.
-
- * _Tolkien's Legendarium_, ed. Verlyn Flieger and Carl F. Hostetter.
- Literary analysis and criticism related to the "History of
- Middle-earth" series (and Tolkien's other works). Some find
- parts of this book to be a good introduction to that series.
-
- A notable book whose status is ambiguous is _The Atlas of
- Middle-earth_, by Karen Wynn Fonstad. It is the best general Tolkien
- atlas available, covering the full history of Middle-earth, and in most
- cases Fonstad has done well in extrapolating detailed topographic maps
- from Tolkien's texts and rougher originals. However, there are a fair
- number of minor errors in her research, and it can sometimes be
- difficult to tell what level of justification exists for each of her
- maps' details.
-
- Finally, what follow are a few books that many Tolkien scholars
- avoid. All of them can be enjoyable to read when taken on their own,
- but they are not entirely trustworthy guides to Tolkien's Middle-earth
- and are generally ignored in scholarly debates. Because I am not
- comfortable speaking poorly of others' work without justification, I
- have provided links to further discussion for each of these titles.
-
- * _A Tolkien Bestiary_, and other books by David Day.
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/DayBooks.html
-
- * _The Tolkien Companion_, by J.E.A. Tyler.
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TylerBook.html
-
- * _The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth_, by Ruth Noel.
- http://www.elvish.org/articles/LRH.html
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-
- 6. Is Middle-earth Medieval?
-
- Tolkien's works draw from quite a few periods of human history, and
- many aspects of Middle-earth distinctly resemble their real-world
- counterparts in the Middle-ages. However, there are substantial
- discrepancies in society and culture that indicate that other periods
- in history also made large contributions (as one example, in Letter
- #211 Tolkien compared several significant aspects of the society of
- Gondor to that of ancient Egypt). The relative influence of Medieval
- and other periods has been hotly contested.
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-
- 7. Was Tolkien racist? Were his works?
-
- A full discussion of this issue is beyond the scope of this FAQ.
- Some people find what they consider to be clear indications of racist
- attitudes in Tolkien's works. It is certainly possible that they are
- right: racism is notoriously difficult to recognize accurately, and
- most people harbor at least some level of racial mistrust.
-
- On the other hand, most people who make such accusations seem to do
- so primarily to stir up controversy and inspire flame wars. In fact,
- much of the "evidence" presented to demonstrate Tolkien's racism is
- flawed, and there is reason to believe that Tolkien was less racist
- than many people of his day. For the sake of diffusing the issue a
- little, I will mention a few of those mistaken arguments.
-
- One occasional charge is that Tolkien was anti-semitic, presumably
- because he occasionally compared his Dwarves to Jews. Those
- comparisons seem to focus on history and language, however: in Letter
- #176 he says, "I do think of the 'Dwarves' like Jews: at once native
- and alien in their habitations, speaking the languages of the country,
- but with an accent due to their own private tongue.....". And he seems
- to have had a very positive view of the Jewish people in general. For
- example, when discussing the origins of the name "Tolkien" in the final
- footnote to Letter #325, he says, "It is not Jewish in origin, though I
- should consider it an honour if it were." He made very similar comments
- in a draft of a letter (#30) to a publisher in Nazi Germany who asked
- about his race, and in Letter #29 he introduced that draft and told his
- publisher, "I should regret giving any colour to the notion that I
- subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine."
-
- Another seemingly prejudiced statement comes in Letter #210, where
- Tolkien describes the Orcs as "degraded and repulsive versions of the
- (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types". At first glance this looks
- blatantly racist, but the qualifier "to Europeans" casts it in a very
- different light: Tolkien explicitly recognized that different cultures
- have different standards of beauty, and that his impressions did not
- reflect any underlying superiority. Moreover, he made it clear that
- the Orcs were not in any sense actual "Mongol-types", but "degraded and
- repulsive versions" of humanoid stock. (Nevertheless, his comment
- certainly falls short of modern standards of sensitivity.)
-
- Many point to the "hierarchy" of the various groups of humans in the
- books as clear evidence of cultural elitism or racism, but they seem to
- forget that most of the Numenoreans (the "highest" humans) fell into
- deepest evil and were destroyed by God, while the Woses (the "Wild Men"
- of Druadan forest, who certainly would not represent "civilized"
- Europeans) were among the most wise and resistant to evil of all
- peoples (as well as having a complex culture and many skills other Men
- lacked), to take two of many examples.
-
- Finally, a few people have mistaken the symbolic conflict between
- "darkness" and "light" in the books for a conflict between "black" and
- "white", which they then interpret racially (which is already a
- stretch). They seem to overlook the ghastly white corpse-light of
- Minas Morgul, the White Hand of Saruman, and Isildur's black Stone of
- Erech, to name a few exceptions.
-
- As for specific claims that Tolkien linked skin color to good and
- evil, there are simply too many exceptions for that to hold up. Light
- skinned characters who did evil things include Saruman, Grima, Gollum,
- Boromir, Denethor, and the Numenoreans as mentioned above. And it is
- notable that Tolkien described Forlong's people of Gondor and even the
- men of Bree as "swarthy", the same term he used for example of the
- Southrons who were ambushed by Faramir (though to be fair, he may have
- imagined different degrees of "swarthiness" for those groups). For
- that matter, Sam's flash of empathy for the fallen Southron he saw
- during the ambush indicates that many of Sauron's soldiers were likely
- unwilling slaves, not evil at heart.
-
- In short, while there are racially "suspicious" elements to be found
- in Tolkien's writings if one hunts for them, closer examination
- typically reveals the attitude behind them to be benign. That doesn't
- mean that he was perfect, but it certainly doesn't seem that he should
- be condemned for intolerance.
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-
- 8. Are there electronic versions of Tolkien's books?
-
- For many aspects of Tolkien scholarship, it would be convenient to
- have an electronic version of the books (this would make full text
- searches feasible, for example). However, the Tolkien Estate has not
- chosen to authorize any electronic versions, probably because of the
- ease with which electronic versions can be illegally copied and
- distributed. Therefore, there are no legal electronic copies of
- Tolkien's writings. The moral issues involved are less clear (they
- seem to depend on one's economic philosophy), but the general culture
- of the newsgroups is pretty firmly against these unauthorized texts.
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-
- 9. Where can I report copyright violations that I observe?
-
- If you do find an unauthorized copy of any of Tolkien's works on the
- Internet, you may want to take some action to support the rights of the
- Tolkien Estate. It is generally best to begin with a polite request
- that the texts be taken offline, and only if that fails to take more
- drastic action such as contacting the hosting Internet service
- provider. If all else fails, you can send a brief letter to the
- Estate's legal representative informing her of the situation, although
- this should be considered a last resort:
-
- Mrs. Cathleen Blackburn
- Manches & Co.
- 3 Worcester Street
- Oxford OX1 2PZ
- U.K.
-
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-
- III.B. STORY INTERNAL QUESTIONS: CREATURES AND CHARACTERS
-
- 1. Did Balrogs have wings?
-
- [Conrad Dunkerson has written a much more detailed essay on this
- question as part of his "The Truth About Balrogs" series, on the web
- at: http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TAB6.html. That page also includes
- links to other discussions of the issue.]
-
- Debates on this topic have been frequent and intense, in part
- because people unknowingly interpret the question in very different
- ways. Most participants in these debates agree on the following:
-
- * The Balrog in Moria had "wings" of some sort, or if you prefer, a
- "shadow" shaped like wings.
-
- * Those "wings" were probably not made of flesh and blood, but
- rather of some sort of "dark emanation" or "palpable darkness".
-
- Many of the most intense arguments seem to have resulted from
- different uses of the word "wing". In this consensus statement, the
- (quoted) word "wing" is used only as a convenient symbol for the
- feature of the Balrog under discussion, without reference to any
- standard definition. In particular, the statement does not specify
- whether the "palpable darkness" always had a winglike shape.
-
- So what are the different definitions that people use? The Oxford
- English Dictionary divides its relevant definitions of the word "wing"
- into two groups. Group I includes definitions that for the most part
- refer to physical parts of a creature's body. For example, #1.a. is
- "Each of the organs of flight of any flying animal" (but broadened to
- include cases where similar organs are not used for flight, such as
- penguins' wings and even "the enlarged fins of flying fishes").
-
- Group II includes definitions relating primarily to a thing's shape
- or position. For example, #5. is "An appliance or appendage resembling
- or analagous to a wing in form or function", including #5.a. "An
- artificial apparatus attached to the human arms or shoulders" and
- #5.d.(a) "one of the planes of an aeroplane". Even broader, #6 is "A
- lateral part or appendage: in various connexions."
-
- With a "Group II" definition of "wing", the question "Do Balrogs have
- wings?" is more or less trivial: Tolkien's description clearly fits (at
- least at the time described in the quotes below), as does the consensus
- statement above. With a "Group I" definition of "wing", the question
- is more interesting and the answer less obvious: it depends on the
- specific definition, and even then not everyone will agree.
-
- The consensus statement above was not reached quickly, and even with
- a "Group I" definition some newcomers believe that a simple "yes" or
- "no" is clear from the description of the Balrog in "The Bridge of
- Khazad-dum". The debates generally begin as follows:
-
- * "Pro-wingers" point out that when the Balrog steps onto the
- Bridge, "its wings were spread from wall to wall".
-
- * "No-wingers" point out that the word "wings" was first used in the
- phrase "the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings", and
- deduce that the word "wings" refers to the "shadow" itself rather
- than to a part of the Balrog's solid central body. (The "shadow"
- was seen when the Balrog first appeared: "it was like a great
- shadow, in the middle of which was a dark form", and it is likely
- the "cloud" in the phrase "It came to the edge of the fire and
- the light faded as if a cloud had bent over it".)
-
- * "Pro-wingers" claim that as the Balrog came closer to the
- Fellowship its uncertain appearance became clearer, so what first
- looked like a "shadow" or "cloud" and later "like wings" was
- finally recognized as "wings" once the Balrog was nearby.
- "No-wingers" do not agree with this interpretation.
-
- Progress beyond this point is difficult, but again, most of those on
- both sides of the debate agree with the consensus statement. One
- substantial remaining point of disagreement is whether the "wings"
- always had a winglike shape (supported in part by Tolkien's use of the
- direct phrase "its wings") or if their form was variable (supported in
- part by the "cloud" description), and there is no firm evidence known
- for either position.
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-
- 2. Could Balrogs fly?
-
- [Conrad Dunkerson has written a much more detailed essay on this
- question as part of his "The Truth About Balrogs" series, on the web
- at: http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TAB6.html. That page also includes
- links to other discussions of the issue.]
-
- There is considerable disagreement on this point. Most agree that
- the Moria passage does not provide convincing evidence for or against
- Balrogs' ability to fly. (For example, while the Balrog does not fly
- out of the chasm, it may not have had enough room to use its wings, or
- its highest priority may have been the destruction of a rival Maia in
- its domain.) Most also agree that as Maiar, Balrogs could conceivably
- be able to fly even if they had no wings, or that they could have had
- wings but remained flightless. Still, the two issues are certainly
- related to some degree.
-
- A number of facts have been taken as indirect evidence that Balrogs
- could not fly (e.g. they never flew over the mountains to discover
- Gondolin; at least two died falling from cliffs), but counterarguments
- have always been found (the eagles defended Gondolin; the Balrogs fell
- only after great injuries). Clearer evidence comes from "Of Tuor and
- his Coming to Gondolin" in _Unfinished Tales_, when Voronwe says, "as
- yet no servant of the Enemy has dared to fly into the high airs". Even
- if Voronwe's information was complete, however, this still leaves room
- for Balrogs to be able to fly at low altitudes.
-
- The only known place where Tolkien may have made a direct statement
- on Balrogs' ability to fly can be found in "The Later Quenta
- Silmarillion (II)" in _Morgoth's Ring_:
-
- Far beneath the halls of Angband... the Balrogs lurked still....
- Swiftly they arose, and they passed with winged speed over Hithlum,
- and they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire.
-
- Some believe that this passage clearly describes Balrogs flying, others
- believe it just uses imagery of flight to indicate speed, and still
- others believe it to be ambiguous.
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-
- 3. What was Tom Bombadil?
-
- [This supplements question V.G.1 of the Tolkien FAQ.]
-
- [I have written a much more detailed analysis of this question; it is
- on the web at: http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/Bombadil.html]
-
- Theories on Bombadil's nature abound. Many people believe that Tom
- was a Maia: if we assume he is one of the types of entities we know of
- from the Silmarillion, this seems to be the best fit. (A closely
- related suggestion is that Tom was an Ainu who never took a place in
- the usual hierarchy of Arda). Other popular views make Tom a nature
- spirit of a kind never explicitly described, either one of many, or the
- incarnation of Arda itself. These theories are inspired by comments at
- the Council of Elrond and in _Letters_.
-
- Many other possibilities still arise regularly (for example, that he
- is some particular Vala or even Eru himself), but there are fairly
- strong arguments against them. (For example, Tolkien said in several
- Letters that Eru did not physically inhabit Middle-earth.) Some people
- argue that Tolkien intentionally left Bombadil an enigma even to
- himself, and that therefore any attempt to find out what he was is
- doomed to fail. A truly satisfying explanation of Bombadil's nature
- would explain Goldberry as well.
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-
- 4. Did Elves have pointed ears?
-
- [This supplements question V.C.1 of the Tolkien FAQ.]
-
- [Conrad Dunkerson has written a more detailed discussion of this
- question, on the web at: http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/Ears.html.]
-
- There is no known text in which Tolkien makes a final, unambiguous
- statement about the shape of Elvish ears. Those who argue in favor of
- pointed ears generally cite a remark which seems to support that
- position found in the "Etymologies" (part of _The Lost Road_). That
- document was written in the period immediately before the composition
- of LotR and revised sporadically while LotR was being written, so it is
- unclear to what extent it should be treated as a canonical source.
- Those who argue against pointed ears focus on Tolkien's statements that
- Elves and humans were sufficiently similar that they could be mistaken
- for each other. There is no consensus on this issue.
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-
- 5. Did Elves have beards?
-
- Most of Tolkien's writings imply that Elves were generally
- beardless. This is stated clearly in a note written late in Tolkien's
- life which is summarized in the section "Amroth and Nimrodel" in "The
- History of Galadriel and Celeborn" in _Unfinished Tales_. In the note,
-
- there is a discussion of the Elvish strain in Men, as to its being
- observable in the beardlessness of those who were so descended (it
- was a characteristic of all Elves to be beardless).
-
- At first glance, this would seem to settle the issue.
-
- However, this ignores a crucial exception. In "The Grey Havens",
- when Cirdan the Shipwright greets Frodo and the Elves, we read "Very
- tall he was, and his beard was long". This canonical evidence makes it
- clear that some Elves do have beards. A very incomplete explanation of
- this apparent discrepancy appears in a note associated with "The
- Shibboleth of Feanor" which was published in the journal _Vinyar
- Tengwar_ #41, which reads
-
- Elves did not have beards until they entered their third cycle of
- life. Nerdanel's father was exceptional, being only early in his
- second.
-
- (Nerdanel was Feanor's wife.) No other mention of Elvish "cycles of
- life" is known. Even without a full understanding, however, this helps
- to reconcile these statements: Cirdan was one of the oldest Elves in
- Middle-earth and could easily be in his "third cycle of life", and
- humans descended from Elves might never live long enough to reach the
- bearded state.
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-
- 6. What happened to Elves after they died?
-
- [This updates question V.D.1 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- A great deal of information on this topic can be found in _Morgoth's
- Ring_ (HoMe X). Tolkien's latest thoughts on the issue can be found in
- "Note 3" to the "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth" and in the Appendix to
- that text. In brief, when Elves died, they were summoned to Mandos.
- Once the Valar deemed them to be ready, they could (if they wished) be
- directly re-embodied (with the aid of the Valar) in a body identical to
- the one they had lost. Tolkien clearly abandoned the idea that the
- Elves could be re-born as children.
-
- "Note 3" says that Elven spirits "could refuse the summons [to
- Mandos], but this would imply that they were in some way tainted".
- Details of such refusals are not given in the text above, but are
- discussed in an earlier essay: "Laws and Customs among the Eldar", part
- of "The Later Quenta Silmarillion (II)" in _Morgoth's Ring_. Those who
- refused "then had little power to resist the counter-summons of
- Morgoth." The reason for this "counter-summons" is not explained, nor
- is it clear what became of them after Morgoth's defeat, but the text
- mentions that some of the living sought to speak with the "Unbodied" or
- even to control them, and that "Such practices are of Morgoth; and the
- necromancers are of the host of Sauron his servant."
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-
- 7. Was Glorfindel of Rivendell the same as Glorfindel of Gondolin?
-
- [This updates question V.D.2 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- Yes. With the publication of _The Peoples of Middle-earth_,
- certainty has become possible: the first essays in the section "Last
- Writings" of that book discuss Glorfindel and his history. Those texts
- make it very clear that after his death in the flight from Gondolin,
- Glorfindel was re-embodied in Aman (see question III.B.6) and was later
- sent back to Middle-earth as an aid or an emissary. Tolkien seems to
- have been uncertain as to whether he returned in the Second Age by way
- of Numenor or in the Third Age as a companion of Gandalf.
- -------
-
- 8. Who was Gil-galad's father?
-
- _The Silmarillion_ states many times that Gil-galad was the son of
- Fingon, son of Fingolfin. However, in _The Peoples of Middle-earth_
- (in comments on the essay "The Shibboleth of Feanor"), Christopher
- Tolkien explains that this was an editorial error due to the complexity
- of the source material: "Gil-galad as the son of Fingon... was an
- ephemeral idea."
-
- Tolkien changed his mind about Gil-galad's ancestry several times,
- but it seems that his latest decision was to make Gil-galad the son of
- Orodreth, son of Angrod, son of Finarfin (making him the brother of
- Finduilas and nephew of Finrod). Christopher says that "There can be
- no doubt that this was my father's last word on the subject", but that
- because the change was never incorporated into other texts,
-
- "it was obviously impossible to introduce it into the published
- _Silmarillion_. It would nonetheless have been very much better to
- have left Gil-galad's parentage obscure."
-
- Whether one agrees with that assessment or not, it is at least clear
- that _The Silmarillion_ is not entirely trustworthy here.
- -------
-
- 9. Did Dwarf women have beards?
-
- [This updates question V.D.1 of the Tolkien FAQ.]
-
- Yes. The most canonical evidence for this comes in Appendix A,
- where it is said of Dwarf women that
-
- They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a
- journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other
- peoples cannot tell them apart.
-
- It seems that (male) Dwarves in Middle-earth all have beards: among
- other evidence, as Bilbo sets out on his adventure in _The Hobbit_, we
- read that "His only comfort was that he couldn't be mistaken for a
- dwarf, as he had no beard." Given that, the quote above must imply
- that Dwarf women were bearded as well.
-
- However, we do not need to rely on such implications: Tolkien
- answered this question explicitly in other texts. In _The War of the
- Jewels_ ("The Later _Quenta Silmarillion_: Of the Naugrim and the
- Edain", written ~1951), Tolkien wrote that
-
- no Man nor Elf has ever seen a beardless Dwarf - unless he were
- shaven in mockery, and would then be more like to die of shame...
- For the Naugrim have beards from the beginning of their lives, male
- and female alike...
-
- In _The Peoples of Middle-earth_, Christopher Tolkien says that a
- similar statement was present in an earlier draft of Appendix A as
- well. As these statements are entirely in agreement with the canonical
- evidence cited above, the conclusion that Dwarf women had beards seems
- inescapable.
- -------
-
- 10. Was there "telepathy" in Middle-earth?
-
- Although it is not emphasized in the books, direct communication of
- thought from mind to mind was certainly part of Middle-earth. This is
- stated directly in the chapter "Many Partings" of LotR, when Celeborn,
- Galadriel, Gandalf, and Elrond lingered before parting:
-
- ...they did not move or speak with mouth, looking from mind to mind;
- and only their shining eyes stirred and kindled as their thoughts
- went to and fro.
-
- Another example is the voice Frodo hears in his mind on Amon Hen,
- saying, "Take off the Ring!", which was that of Gandalf as he "sat in a
- high place, and... strove with the Dark Tower" ("The White Rider").
- ("The Black Gate is Closed" confirms that this was Gandalf, when it
- suggests that Frodo felt Gandalf's thought on him, "as he had upon Amon
- Hen".)
-
- Tolkien discusses the details of this "telepathy" at length in the
- essay "_Osanwe-kenta_: Enquiry into the Communication of Thought",
- which was published in the journal _Vinyar Tengwar_ #39 (available from
- http://www.elvish.org/). It seems that all minds had this ability, but
- that it was "dimmed" whenever it passed through a physical body. Elves
- could therefore use it more easily than humans, as their wills had
- greater control over their bodies. The essay contains many more
- fascinating details, but there is not space even to summarize them
- here.
- -------
-
- 11. Did Sauron have a physical form during _The Lord of the Rings_?
-
- There is strong evidence that Sauron did have a humanoid physical
- body at the time of LotR. In "The Black Gate is Closed" we read, "'He
- has only four [fingers] on the Black Hand, but they are enough', said
- Gollum shuddering." Gollum was tortured in Barad-dur, and this
- statement sounds as if it comes from personal experience. Some have
- objected that Gollum's memory of his torture might not be accurate for
- various reasons, but this is still the only fully "canonical" evidence
- on either side of the issue, so it should be taken seriously.
-
- It need not be taken alone, however. Tolkien makes multiple
- unambiguous statements that Sauron did have a physical form in
- _Letters_. For example, he describes Sauron's use of a humanoid shape
- in Letter #200:
-
- It is mythologically supposed that when this shape was 'real', that
- is a physical actuality in the physical world and not a vision
- transferred from mind to mind, it took some time to build up. It
- was then destructible like other physical organisms. ... After the
- battle with Gilgalad and Elendil, Sauron took a long while to
- re-build, longer than he had done after the Downfall of Numenor (I
- suppose because each building-up used up some of the inherent energy
- of the spirit...)
-
- Because it took time for Sauron to "re-build" after his body was slain
- by Gil-galad and Elendil, it is clear that it was more than just a
- "vision". Another clear statement can be found near the end of Letter
- #246, where Tolkien discusses the possibility of a direct confrontation
- between Sauron and a Ring-wielder at the end of the Third Age (he
- considers both Aragorn and Gandalf). He says,
-
- in a tale which allows the incarnation of great spirits in a
- physical and destructible form their power must be far greater when
- actually physically present. ... The form that he took was that of a
- man of more than human stature, but not gigantic.
-
- No statements by Tolkien conflicting with these descriptions are known.
-
- Some have objected that the many references to the "Eye" of Sauron
- must refer to his physical shape. However, Tolkien used that term even
- when referring to the period before the war of the Last Alliance, when
- it is well known that Sauron had a physical form: for example, the
- Akallabeth says that after Sauron "came back to Middle-earth and to
- Mordor... the Eye of Sauron the Terrible few could endure." It seems
- likely that this term referred at least largely to his piercing mind or
- will. That view is supported by a comment about Morgoth in Text X of
- the "Myths Transformed" section of _Morgoth's Ring_:
-
- "...Morgoth held the Orcs in dire thraldom; for in their corruption
- they had lost almost all possibility of resisting the domination of
- his will. So great indeed did its pressure upon them become ere
- Angband fell that, if he turned his thought towards them, they were
- conscious of his 'eye' wherever they might be".
-
- We know with absolute certainty that Morgoth had a huge but humanoid
- physical form during the First Age, so "eye" here obviously refers to
- his will. The similarity between this description and the many
- references to Sauron's "Eye" is striking, which seems to make the true
- meaning of that term clear.
- -------
-
- 12. What were the names of the Nazgul?
-
- The only known text to name any of the Nazgul is "The Hunt for the
- Ring" in _Unfinished Tales_. It names "the second to the Chief, Khamul
- the Shadow of the East" as Sauron's lieutenant in Dol Guldur; in a
- previous draft, he was called "the Second Chief (the Black
- Easterling)". Some believe that Gothmog, the lieutenant of Morgul, was
- also a Nazgul; see question III.B.13 for further discussion.
-
- Some people have used the name "Angmar" to refer to the Witch King.
- We know of no instance in which Tolkien used "Angmar" as a personal
- name; in his writings it always refers to the Witch King's country.
- Some still defend the use of "Angmar" as a convenient nickname, but as
- others find this irritating it is probably best avoided.
- -------
-
- 13. What was Gothmog (the lieutenant of Morgul)?
-
- Gothmog (who shares his name with the Lord of Balrogs in the First
- Age) took command of Sauron's forces after the Witch-king was
- destroyed. Some believe that like the Mouth of Sauron he was human,
- while others claim that so responsible a position in Minas Morgul would
- only be given to another Nazgul. Several other possibilities also
- arise repeatedly. There seems to be no explicit evidence for any
- particular answer.
- -------
-
- 14. What was the origin of Orcs?
-
- [This updates question V.G.1 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- Tolkien never seems to have firmly resolved this question in his own
- mind, let alone on paper. While _The Silmarillion_ as published states
- fairly clearly that Orcs were corrupted Elves, _Unfinished Tales_ hints
- that some strains of Orcs may have been bred from the Druedain.
- Tolkien's latest writings on the issue (found in Texts VIII-X of the
- "Myths Transformed" section in _Morgoth's Ring_) show him considering
- many possible origins: corrupted Elves, corrupted Men, very minor Maiar
- (a small number of original Orcish leaders only), or even beasts given
- fragments of Morgoth's own will so they would have some measure of
- independence. Some combination of these origins seems most likely from
- the texts, though the last of them was probably rejected.
-
- All of these suggested origins still support the notion that Orcs
- reproduced in the same manner as other races (and therefore that there
- were female Orcs). This is explicitly discussed in Text X of "Myths
- Transformed", which states that
-
- Men could under the domination of Morgoth or his agents in a few
- generations be reduced almost to the Orc-level of mind and habits;
- and then they would or could be made to mate with Orcs, producing
- new breeds, often larger and more cunning.
-
- The role of female Orcs in their society is not at all clear.
- -------
-
- 15. Were Orcs immortal, and what happened to them after death?
-
- Given that Tolkien never firmly decided on the origin of Orcs (as
- discussed in question III.B.14), it is unsurprising that little is
- known about their fate. It seems clear that creatures descended even
- in part from humans would be mortal (as the Princes of Dol Amroth were;
- Elrond and his kin were special exceptions). In one his many
- conflicting essays about Orcs (Text X of "Myths Transformed" in
- _Morgoth's Ring_), Tolkien does give a direct answer to these
- questions:
-
- They could be slain, and they were subject to disease; but apart
- from these ills they died and were not immortal, even according to
- the manner of the Quendi; indeed they appear to have been by nature
- short-lived compared with the span of Men of higher race, such as
- the Edain.
-
- The apparent clarity of this statement may be misleading, considering
- the frequency with which Tolkien made and contradicted assertions about
- Orcs in the "Myths Transformed" texts.
-
- There are several reasons to believe that at least some Orcs had
- very long lives. One of the strongest is based on the death dates of
- the Orc Azog and his son Bolg. Azog was killed at the Battle of
- Azanulbizar in 2799, while Bolg was killed at the Battle of Five Armies
- in 2941. Thus, Bolg was still alive and strong over 140 years after
- his conception.
-
- More circumstantial evidence can be found in "The Choices of Master
- Samwise", when Sam overhears Gorbag speaking to Shagrat:
-
- '...if we get a chance, you and me'll slip off and set up somewhere
- on our own... somewhere where there's good loot nice and handy, and
- no big bosses.'
-
- 'Ah!' said Shagrat. 'Like old times.'
-
- At this time, Sauron had been openly ruling Mordor for sixty-eight
- years, but Shagrat and Gorbag seem to recall a time when he wasn't in
- charge. This could mean that they were over seventy years old, that it
- took Sauron many years to establish firm control over his minions, or
- that they heard stories of "old times" from their elders.
-
- Gorbag also makes reference to "the Great Siege", which might refer
- either to the siege of the Last Alliance on Mordor or to the siege of
- Angband in the First Age, but it is less clear that he actually
- remembers it. Similarly, the goblins who captured Bilbo and Thorin in
- _The Hobbit_ had a surprisingly clear memory of the swords from
- Gondolin that they called "Beater and Biter", but there are
- explanations for that other than personal experience.
-
- As for their fate after death, this would depend very much on their
- origins (again, refer to question III.B.14). Beasts would presumably
- not _have_ a fate after death, and it seems likely that creatures
- descended even in part from Men would share their Gift and leave the
- world. Near the end of Text VIII of "Myths Transformed", Tolkien
- comments that if there were an Elvish strain among Orcs, "dying they
- would go to Mandos and be held in prison till the End." It also seems
- possible that Orcish spirits would refuse the summons to Mandos, as
- discussed in question III.B.6 of this FAQ; it is even conceivable that
- they could be reborn or re-embodied if they then returned to Morgoth or
- Sauron.
- -------
-
- 16. What was the relationship between Orcs and Goblins?
-
- [This supplements question V.F.1 of the Tolkien FAQ.]
-
- The words "Orc" and "Goblin" are essentially identical in meaning.
- In the introductory note to _The Hobbit_, Tolkien writes that
-
- _Orc_ is not an English word. It occurs in one or two places but is
- usually translated _goblin_ (or _hobgoblin_ for the larger kinds).
- _Orc_ is the hobbits' form of the name given at that time to these
- creatures.
-
- Some have taken this and other comments in _The Hobbit_ (such as the
- reference to "the big ones, the orcs of the mountains" near the end of
- "Riddles in the Dark") to mean that "Goblins" were smaller and "Orcs"
- larger. However, Tolkien did not generally make this distinction. One
- clear example comes from the chapter "The Riders of Rohan" in LotR,
- when the companions reach the edge of Fangorn:
-
- Upon a stake in the middle was set a great goblin head; upon its
- shattered helm the white badge could still be seen.
-
- The white badge makes it all but certain that this was one of the large
- Uruk-hai. In fact, it very likely that this was the head of Ugluk
- himself, slain after a climactic fight sword to sword with Eomer at the
- end of the battle. If Ugluk could be called a goblin, any Orc could.
- -------
-
- 17. What was the origin of Saruman's Uruk-hai?
-
- Whatever the details of their origins, all evidence indicates that
- like all Orcs, Saruman's Uruk-hai were bred "naturally" by mating
- humanoid creatures who then bore live young. The real questions are
- whether it was Sauron or Saruman who planned that breeding, and what
- stock they were bred from.
-
- It is important that the meaning of "Uruk-hai" be clear from the
- start. Appendix F says that "the word _uruk_ of the Black Speech...
- was applied as a rule only to the great soldier-orcs that at this time
- issued from Mordor and Isengard." As for the plural, the index of
- _Unfinished Tales_ says that "Uruks" is an "Anglicized form of
- _Uruk-hai_ of the Black Speech", and Tolkien seems to have used the
- terms "Uruks" and "Uruk-hai" interchangeably. However, it is not clear
- whether, at the end of the Third Age, the term "Uruk" referred to a
- specific breed or to all "great soldier-orcs".
-
- According to Appendix A, the race of Uruks first appeared out of
- Mordor in the last years of Steward Denethor I, before TA 2475. If
- "Uruk" is the name of a specific Orc breed, then this proves that
- Saruman had no hand in their creation. However, by the time of LotR
- there is some evidence that several breeds had that name: the companies
- of Ugluk, Shagrat, and Gorbag were all Uruks, and they differed at
- least slightly in size and appearance (for example, Sam observed that
- Gorbag's troop's gear was "a better fit" than Shagrat's). Still, this
- evidence is not conclusive; it seems that we cannot determine the
- meaning of the word _Uruk_ itself without answering the larger
- question.
-
- As for Saruman, it is well established that he conducted a breeding
- program crossing Orcs (quite possibly Uruks) with humans. Immediately
- following the quotation from _Morgoth's Ring_ cited in question
- III.B.14 (Text X of "Myths Transformed") which describes Morgoth's
- technique of mating Orcs with Men, Tolkien says that
-
- There is no doubt that long afterwards, in the Third Age, Saruman
- rediscovered this, or learned of it in lore, and in his lust for
- mastery committed this, his wickedest deed: the interbreeding of
- Orcs and Men, producing both Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men
- treacherous and vile.
-
- While this is the only explicit statement of Saruman's deeds, there are
- numerous comments in LotR about Orclike Men and Manlike Orcs associated
- with Isengard. The most direct comments come from the chapter
- "Treebeard", where Treebeard ponders Saruman's Orcs:
-
- For these Isengarders are more like wicked Men. It is a mark of
- evil things that came in the Great Darkness that they cannot abide
- the Sun, but Saruman's Orcs can endure it, even if they hate it. I
- wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he
- blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!
-
- The close agreement between Treebeard's thoughts here and the explicit
- statement in _Morgoth's Ring_ makes it seem very likely that this was
- Tolkien's intent.
-
- The remaining question is whether Saruman's Uruk-hai were the
- "Men-orcs" from his breeding program. This seems very likely, but it
- is difficult to find absolute proof. (Treebeard's comments suggest
- that the Isengarders' tolerance of sunlight might make this clear, but
- it is hard to prove that Uruks of Mordor lacked that tolerance.)
- -------
-
- 18. What was the origin of Trolls?
-
- [This updates question V.G.2 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- It is not at all clear. One piece of information comes from
- Treebeard's statement (in the chapter "Treebeard") that Trolls were
- made "in mockery of Ents, as Orcs were of Elves". However, this
- probably only means that Ents gave Morgoth the idea for Trolls, not
- that the two races are actually related: the two races have almost
- nothing in common except great strength. Also, in Letter #153, Tolkien
- discusses this very quote and says that "Treebeard is a _character_ in
- my story, not me... and there is quite a lot he does not know or
- understand."
-
- One of Tolkien's more direct comments on the origin of Trolls comes
- a few lines later in that letter. He says of the Trolls in _The
- Hobbit_ that
-
- I am not sure about Trolls. I think they are mere 'counterfeits',
- and hence ... they return to mere stone images when not in the dark.
- But there are other sorts of Trolls, beside these rather
- ridiculous, if brutal, Stone-trolls, for which other origins are
- suggested.
-
- At least when he wrote this in 1954, then, it seems that Tolkien
- believed that the Stone-trolls in particular were barely even
- independent beings, relying on some sort of "spell" or external will
- for their existence.
-
- Another direct statement about Trolls can be found at the end of
- Text IX of the "Myths Transformed" section of _Morgoth's Ring_
- (probably written in the late 1950s):
-
- The Elves would have classed the creatures called 'trolls' (in _The
- Hobbit_ and _The Lord of the Rings_) as Orcs - in character and
- origin - but they were larger and slower. It would seem evident
- that they were corruptions of primitive human types.
-
- Christopher comments that "he seems to have been thinking...
- specifically of the _Olog-hai_, the great Trolls who appeared at the
- end of the Third Age (as stated in Appendix F)", quite likely in part
- on the basis of the comment in Appendix F that "Some held that [the
- _Olog-hai_] were not Trolls but giant Orcs".
-
- However, Tolkien's mention of _The Hobbit_ in this quote suggests
- that its "Stone-trolls" were meant to be included as well, and Appendix
- F goes on to say "but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind
- quite unlike even the largest of Orc-kind... Trolls they were..." which
- suggests that all Trolls were fundamentally the same, and different
- than Orcs.
-
- It is not clear how to reconcile these statements, though the
- evidence from LotR naturally carries the greatest weight. In any case,
- Tolkien's indecision about the origin of Orcs in _Morgoth's Ring_ (as
- discussed in question III.B.14) almost certainly applies even more
- strongly to the passing comment regarding Trolls quoted above.
- -------
-
- 19. What were the giants (seen by Bilbo in _The Hobbit_)?
-
- Nobody knows. Among texts considered to be at all canonical (see
- question III.A.2), giants are mentioned directly only in _The Hobbit_.
- This has led some to doubt their literal existence entirely, but they
- do seem to have a firm place in that book: giants (and the destruction
- they caused) were seen and heard by everyone, and both Thorin and
- Gandalf were worried about them. Later, Gandalf says "I must see if I
- can't find a more or less decent giant" to block up the goblins' new
- gate (where the group was captured). He also mentions them to Beorn.
- It would be difficult to reject giants without rejecting _The Hobbit_
- as a canonical source entirely, which Tolkien clearly did not do. Some
- believe that the voices heard by the Fellowship on the Redhorn pass
- were giants, or even that Caradhras itself was a "giant" in some sense.
-
- Three explanations for giants are relatively common. Perhaps the
- most natural is that they are an exceptionally large race of humans.
- Another is that they are a very large breed of troll, which could
- explain why they are not seen away from the mountains: they would need
- very large caves in which to hide from the sun. Finally, they could be
- "nature spirits" associated with mountains (and possibly with storms);
- this, too, would explain why they were only seen there. (Some
- discussion of this can be found in my essay on Tom Bombadil, mentioned
- in question III.B.3) There is no clear evidence for or against any of
- these possibilities.
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- III.C. STORY INTERNAL QUESTIONS: HISTORY AND HAPPENINGS
-
- 1. Why didn't they just have an Eagle fly the Ring to Mt. Doom?
-
- This debate is most interesting when limited to "story internal"
- arguments (i.e. "Otherwise it would be a dull book" is a cop-out). One
- possibility is that there were no Eagles available when they were
- needed. Another common argument is that Mordor was well defended,
- while the Eagles were wary even of shepherds with bows. It may have
- been an issue of secrecy: a group of Eagles far from the Misty
- Mountains flying toward Mordor might well have drawn Sauron's
- attention, and might have even hinted at the plan to destroy the Ring.
- Some suggest that like the Istari, the Eagles were forbidden by the
- Valar to help so directly. Another suggestion is that Frodo may have
- needed the long journey to (hopefully) develop enough strength of will
- to cast the Ring into the Fire. Many other explanations are seen
- repeatedly as well. In the end, most participants tend to agree that
- an Eagle taking the Ring to Mount Doom would not have worked.
-
- But that is not the end of the discussion. Even if those objections
- are valid, many believe that this topic should have come up at the
- Council of Elrond (after all, the book shows discussions of other
- flawed options there, like sending the Ring to Bombadil or throwing it
- into the Sea). And some people still think that making use of the
- Eagles would have been effective (even if only for part of the journey,
- rather than flying all the way to Mordor). These aspects of the
- question remain unresolved.
- -------
-
- 2. Were the barrow blades magical? In what way?
-
- The swords that the Hobbits got from the Barrow Downs were
- apparently magical in some way: in "The Departure of Boromir", Aragorn
- says this of Merry and Pippin's blades:
-
- Doubtless the Orcs despoiled them, but feared to keep the knives,
- knowing them for what they are: work of Westernesse, wound about
- with spells for the bane of Mordor.
-
- Some have objected that Men could not use magic "spells", as Tolkien
- discusses in Letter #155: "'magic' in this story... is an inherent
- power not possessed or attainable by Men as such." However, against
- this in the margin Tolkien wrote, "But the Numenoreans used 'spells' in
- making swords?" (and he omitted the whole discussion of magic from the
- final version of the letter).
-
- Some see the question mark in that margin note as an indication that
- Tolkien was uncertain of this conclusion and look for non-magical
- explanations for Aragorn's comment. However, most accept Aragorn's
- statement as proof that the blades were magical (which we will assume
- for the remainder of this discussion), and the remaining debate
- concerns the nature of that magic.
-
- There are several reasons to believe that the barrow blades were
- particularly harmful to the Nazgul. A major piece of evidence is the
- effect of Merry's blade on the Witch King, as discussed in question
- III.C.4 (which should be read as part of this entry). A related quote
- comes from Letter #210, where Tolkien compares that case to what would
- have happened if Sam had "[sunk] his blade into the Ringwraith's thigh"
- on Weathertop: "the result would have been much the same...: the Wraith
- would have fallen down and the sword would have been destroyed." It
- may be significant that Tolkien says "fallen down": he seems to think
- that any stab (even an unskilled one) would have that effect (while not
- slaying the wraith entirely).
-
- In earlier drafts of LotR, it was explicit that the Nazgul feared
- the barrow blades: in the chapter "At Rivendell" of _The Return of the
- Shadow_, Gandalf refers to them as "the one kind of sword the Riders
- fear." Although no such statement survived into the final text, some
- believe that the Nazgul's fear of the barrow blades did remain.
- Question III.C.3 discusses the possibility that the barrow blades were
- part of the reason the Nazgul did not take the Ring at Weathertop (and
- should also be read as part of this entry).
-
- We know almost nothing about whether the barrow blades had any
- special effect on other evil creatures. In "Flotsam and Jetsam", Merry
- says that Ugluk (leader of the Uruk-hai band) took the swords but then
- "threw the things away as if they burned him." However, this may just
- be a poetic description of the normal fear mentioned by Aragorn in the
- first quote above. In the end, no aspect of the barrow blades' magic
- is well understood.
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-
- 3. Why didn't the Nazgul take the Ring at Weathertop?
-
- The Nazgul withdrew from Weathertop despite a five-against-one
- fighting advantage and with the One Ring almost within their grasp.
- Many share Aragorn's confusion about this: "I cannot think why they
- have gone and do not attack again." There are many possible reasons,
- and the true answer is likely to be a combination of them.
-
- Most agree that Aragorn's analysis in "Flight to the Ford" is at
- least in part accurate:
-
- I don't think they expected to be resisted... They will come again
- another night, if we cannot escape. They are only waiting, because
- they think that their purpose is almost accomplished, and that the
- Ring cannot fly much further.
-
- Many see this explanation as inadequate: the Ring seems like too great
- a prize for the Nazgul to take such foolish caution. Some quote Letter
- #210 where Tolkien says that "They have no great physical power against
- the fearless", arguing that Aragorn was able to drive the Nazgul away.
- However, this quote does not preclude them from having "normal"
- physical power, and the Witch King was willing to do battle with
- skilled warriors at other times.
-
- Some believe that Frodo's cry of "Elbereth" helped drive the Nazgul
- away: after remarking that Frodo's sword had not harmed the Witch King,
- Aragorn says, "More deadly to [the Witch King] was the name of
- Elbereth." This idea is clearer in an early draft: in _The Return of
- the Shadow_ ("At Rivendell"), a fragment includes Gandalf saying, "Not
- to mention courage - and also swords and a strange and ancient name.
- Later on I must be told about that curious sword of yours, and how you
- knew the name of Elbereth." (Presumably Gandalf is discussing this
- very question.) However, in the final text, it is Aragorn who comments
- on the name, but he never used it himself. Because of this, some
- interpret Aragorn's comment as nothing more than a statement of just
- how ineffective Frodo's sword slash had been.
-
- A final factor which some believe led the Nazgul to turn away was
- Frodo's sword from the Barrow Downs. As discussed in question III.C.2,
- many believe that the Nazgul were afraid of the barrow blades. The
- description of the attack on Weathertop is at least consistent with
- this theory: after Frodo put on the Ring, three of the wraiths
-
- rushed towards him. Desperate, he drew his own sword, and it seemed
- to him that it flickered red, as if it was a firebrand. Two of the
- figures halted. The third... sprang forward and bore down on Frodo.
-
- All of the wraiths seem to have left immediately after the Witch King
- stabbed Frodo. As Frodo was seeing into the "wraith world" with the
- Ring on, some read the description of his sword flickering red as an
- indication that it had some overt magical power there.
-
- On the other hand, the red flicker could have been just reflected
- firelight, which often remained bright even to one wearing the Ring. In
- fact, there is no clear evidence that the attack did not go just as the
- Nazgul planned. Some also object that the Nazgul would not have feared
- Frodo's sword because the Witch King was able to break it from a
- distance in "Flight to the Ford". Others counter that such a spell may
- have taken some time to prepare, and that Tolkien seems not to have
- considered this a problem in the first draft of the text (when the
- Nazgul's fear of the swords was explicit).
- -------
-
- 4. Who killed the Witch-king, Merry or Eowyn?
-
- Most agree that Eowyn's stroke was the immediate cause of the
- Witch-king's death: she certainly struck _something_, and his death cry
- and disappearance followed immediately after her blow. The primary
- debate is whether Merry's role was simply to provide a distraction, or
- whether his sword (taken from the Barrow Downs) was necessary to break
- some "spell of protection" that would otherwise have guarded the
- Witch-king from harm.
-
- Question III.C.2 discusses the (possible) magical nature of the
- hobbits' barrow blades and their effect on the Nazgul. In the context
- of Merry's encounter with the Witch King in "The Battle of the Pelennor
- Fields", the crucial statement is that
-
- No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have
- dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh,
- breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.
-
- (See question III.C.2 for a related quote and further discussion.)
- Most (but not all) read this quote as a direct statement that Merry's
- sword was especially harmful to the Nazgul. It is less clear what
- "spell" is being broken: some read this as a poetic description of a
- (nonmagical) collapse due to (possibly magical) great pain, while
- others take it to mean that the Nazgul had only indirect, magical
- control over their physical bodies. Based in part on this quote, some
- go even farther and suggest that the Witch King was immune to physical
- weapons before being hit by the barrow blade. No clear answer is
- known.
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-
- 5. Did Frodo and the other mortals who passed over the Sea eventually
- die?
-
- [This updates question V.C.1 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- While he seems to have been initially unsure, Tolkien eventually
- made it clear that mortals who sailed to the West would remain mortal.
- In Letter #154, he explains this:
-
- ...the mythical idea underlying is that for mortals, since their
- 'kind' cannot be changed for ever, this is strictly only a temporary
- reward: a healing and redress of suffering. They cannot abide for
- ever, and though they cannot return to mortal earth, they can and
- will 'die' - of free will, and leave the world.
-
- He makes a similar comment in Letter #246, saying that
-
- Frodo was sent or allowed to pass over Sea to heal him - if that
- could be done, _before he died_. He would have eventually to 'pass
- away': no mortal could, or can, abide for ever on earth, or within
- Time.
-
- An interesting addendum to these statements can be found in the
- appendix to the "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth" in _Morgoth's Ring_.
- After explaining that the spirits of dead mortals go to the halls of
- Mandos, and that only Mandos and Manwe know where they go "after the
- time of recollection in those silent halls", Tolkien makes the
- following comment on Frodo:
-
- The sojourn of Frodo in Eressea - then on to Mandos? - was only an
- extended form of this. Frodo would eventually leave the world
- (desiring to do so). So that the sailing in ship was equivalent to
- death.
-
- This leads to the fascinating (if uncertain) suggestion that Frodo and
- the other mortals who went West may have gone to Mandos while still
- physically alive.
- -------
-
- 6. Did Sam follow Frodo into the West?
-
- While LotR strongly implies that Sam eventually sailed West, it
- never says so explicitly. In "The Grey Havens", Frodo says to Sam,
- "Your time may come." Appendix B says that in S.Y. 1482, Sam was last
- seen by Elanor in the Tower Hills, and that "the tradition [was] handed
- down from Elanor that Samwise passed the Towers, and went to the Grey
- Havens, and passed over Sea". However, Letter #154 makes Tolkien's
- intent clear. In it, he writes that
-
- certain 'mortals'... may pass with the Elves to Elvenhome. Thus
- Frodo ... and Bilbo, and eventually Sam.
-
- Whether Frodo was still alive when Sam reached Elvenhome is uncertain,
- but it does seem possible: in the same letter, Tolkien says that
- mortals in the West "can and will 'die' - of free will", so Frodo may
- have waited to pass on until Sam arrived.
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-
- 7. What is known about the Blue Wizards?
-
- [This supplements question V.E.2 of the Tolkien FAQ.]
-
- The Tolkien FAQ discusses most of what is known about the other two
- Istari (out of five). As explained there, the essay on the Istari in
- _Unfinished Tales_ tells us that their names in Valinor were Alatar and
- Pallando, and that they went into the east of Middle-earth and did not
- return. In that essay and in Letter #211, Tolkien suggests that they
- may have failed in their missions, though he never said that was
- certain.
-
- A small amount of new information on the Blue Wizards appeared in
- the "Last Writings" section of _The Peoples of Middle-earth_. One
- interesting point is that Tolkien seems to have considered the idea
- that Saruman "was letting out a piece of private information" when he
- revealed their existence by mentioning "the rods of the Five Wizards"
- in _The Two Towers_.
-
- In another passage, Tolkien gives other names for the Blue Wizards,
- "Morinehtar" and "Romestamo" ("Darkness-slayer" and "East-helper"), and
- suggests that the Blue Wizards came to Middle-earth in the Second Age
- (much earlier than the other Istari) in the company of Glorfindel (for
- which possibility see question III.B.7). In this writing, he is
- considerably more optimistic about their success:
-
- They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second
- Age and Third Age in weakening and disarraying the forces of East
- ... who would both in the Second Age and Third Age otherwise have
- ... outnumbered the West.
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-
- 8. Who was aware that a Balrog lived in Moria?
-
- Sauron almost certainly knew of the Balrog, at least through his
- Orcs and very possibly more directly. The Dwarves knew that "Durin's
- Bane" was still in Moria when Dain saw it inside the gate at the battle
- of Azanulbizar, but they may not have known what it was: at the Council
- of Elrond, Gloin calls it simply "the nameless fear."
-
- In "Lothlorien", Celeborn tells the Fellowship, "We long have feared
- that under Caradhras a terror slept." This indicates that he wasn't
- sure anything was there, and suggests that he did not know the nature
- of the "terror". Similarly, in "The Bridge of Khazad-dum", Gandalf
- clearly does not know what to expect: after confronting the Balrog
- through the door of the Chamber of Mazarbul, he says, "what it was I
- cannot guess". When the company finally sees it, he says, "A Balrog.
- Now I understand." If neither Gandalf nor Celeborn knew of its
- presence, it seems unlikely that any of the White Council did.
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-
- 9. Did Elves and Dwarves generally get along?
-
- In general, Elves and Dwarves were allies against Morgoth and
- Sauron. However, their attitudes toward each other seem to have varied
- substantially at different times and places. In some cases, they were
- great friends, while in others they viewed each other with substantial
- mistrust. There are indications of the latter in the Sindarin/Silvan
- kingdoms at the time of the War of the Ring, while something
- approaching the former held in Rivendell, where Gloin and Gimli were
- warmly welcomed.
-
- Opinions on the frequency of each attitude cover the entire
- spectrum. When Bilbo first meets Elves in _The Hobbit_ ("A Short
- Rest"), we read that "They were elves of course. ...Dwarves don't get
- on well with them", but that statement is certainly a broad
- generalization. One of the more direct statements on the issue can be
- found in the introduction to the Second Age in Appendix B of LotR:
-
- The Noldor were great craftsmen and less unfriendly to the Dwarves
- than the Sindar; but the friendship that grew up between the people
- of Durin and the Elven-smiths of Eregion was the closest that there
- has ever been between the two races.
-
- In general, this passage seems to imply that unfriendliness between
- Elves and Dwarves was common and that true friendship between them was
- relatively rare. However, it also demonstrates that such friendships
- did exist.
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-
- 10. Where was the Ring when Numenor was destroyed?
-
- [This supplements question V.E.3 of the Tolkien LessFAQ.]
-
- This question is answered in detail in Letter #211. Tolkien says
- that when Sauron was taken to Numenor as a prisoner, "he naturally had
- the One Ring". He goes on to say that at the time of the Akallabeth,
- "Though reduced to 'a spirit of hatred borne on a dark wind', I do not
- think one need boggle at this spirit carrying off the One Ring, upon
- which his power of dominating minds now largely depended."
-
- A passage from "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age" in _The
- Silmarillion_ is sometimes cited as evidence that, contrary to the
- statements above, Sauron left the Ring in Mordor before going to
- Numenor. In that essay, after Sauron returned to Middle-earth and
- rebuilt his body, "He took up again the great Ring". However, this is
- not a contradiction: according to the Oxford English Dictionary, one
- definition of "take up" is
-
- c. With special obj., implying a purpose of using in some way: as,
- to take up one's pen, to proceed or begin to write; to take up a
- book (i.e. with the purpose to read); to take up the (or one's)
- cross (see CROSS n. 4, 10): to take up ARMS, [etc.]
-
- Some have also argued that Ar-Pharazon would have demanded that Sauron
- give him the Ring, but (again in Letter #211) Tolkien says that "I do
- not think Ar-Pharazon knew anything about the One Ring."
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-
- 11. Who was the oldest inhabitant of Middle-earth?
-
- The answer depends on exactly what the question means. Below are
- listed a number of possible answers (as of the end of the Third Age),
- starting from the oldest.
-
- 1. Eru Iluvatar, the Creator... but he never inhabited Ea itself.
-
- 2. The Ainur (including Sauron, Gandalf, etc.): they existed before
- the Music that gave Middle-earth form.
-
- 3. Tom Bombadil. In addition to his direct claim that he is
- "Eldest" (confirmed at the Council of Elrond), he says that he
- "was here before the river and the trees", and that he
- "remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn". If he is
- one of the Ainur, this implies that he was the first of them to
- enter Middle-earth; if not, it probably means he was the first
- "native" inhabitant.
-
- 4. Some trees in Fangorn (and maybe elsewhere): Treebeard says that
- in some parts of his forest, "the trees are older than I am."
-
- 5. Treebeard. Gandalf tells Theoden that he is "the eldest and
- chief of the Ents, and when you speak with him you will hear the
- speech of the oldest of all living things." (Given #4, Gandalf
- must actually mean something like "speaking living things", and
- given #2 and #3 he must be using a specific definition of
- "living".)
-
- If any of the Fathers of the Dwarves were alive (having been
- "reincarnated"), they might fall between #4 and #5. As any living Elf
- would certainly be one of Gandalf's "living things", all of them must
- be younger than Treebeard. (Although the Ents awoke only after the
- Elves, this does not prove that none of the "First Elves" remained
- alive: Treebeard could conceivably have existed as a normal tree before
- awakening as an Ent.)
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-
- IV. EXTERNAL RESOURCES
-
- While this FAQ is intended to provide a complete introduction to
- discussions of Tolkien and his works online, there is clearly far more
- information available than could be recorded in a single document.
- Some frequently asked questions require a more substantial answer that
- could possibly be given here. In this section are collected a few
- resources that address such questions. (Only resources that address
- specific questions asked frequently in the newsgroups are included
- here: this is not an attempt to list all of the excellent Tolkien web
- sites in existence.)
-
- Because most of these resources are located on the World Wide Web
- rather than on Usenet, it is always possible that they could move or
- disappear without notice. A reasonable effort will be made to ensure
- that the addresses here remain valid, but if these resources go away
- there really isn't much that we can do about it. (Please do let me
- know if a link here is broken.)
-
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-
- IV.A. WHERE ELSE CAN I FIND GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT MIDDLE-EARTH?
-
- 1. The Tolkien Meta-FAQ
-
- The Tolkien Meta-FAQ is not a resource of its own, but a unified
- index to this FAQ the other FAQs listed in this section. By organizing
- all of their content in a consistent way with cross-references where
- appropriate, it will hopefully make finding the answers you want faster
- and easier. It is on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/
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-
- 2. The Tolkien FAQ and LessFAQ
-
- Years ago, William D. B. Loos compiled two superb lists of
- frequently asked questions and answers. They are well written and well
- documented, and most of the conclusions that they reach have stood the
- test of time (some have even been strengthened by information that has
- been published since they were written). They are posted to the
- newsgroups roughly every four weeks. For convenience, they are also
- available in HTML form; the web addresses follow, along with each FAQ's
- summary.
-
- The Tolkien FAQ consists of "Frequently Asked Questions about the
- author J.R.R. Tolkien: questions commonly raised by the first reading
- of _The Hobbit_ or _The Lord of the Rings_; details of the background
- mythology and invented history which relate directly to the stories;
- biographical matters." It is on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/tfaq/
-
- The Tolkien LessFAQ consists of "Less Frequently Asked Questions
- about the author J.R.R. Tolkien: questions on his lesser known works;
- questions on deeper and/or more obscure details of the invented
- history, background mythology, and matters philological and
- theological." It is on the web at
-
- http://tolkien.slimy.com/tlfaq/
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-
- 3. The "FAQ of the Rings"
-
- Questions about the Rings of Power arise quite frequently in
- discussions of Tolkien's work, and it would be difficult to do them all
- justice in a general FAQ like this one. Because of this, Stan Brown
- has created a "FAQ of the Rings" addressing many such questions in
- depth. It can be found at
-
- http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm
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-
- 4. The Letters FAQ
-
- Many of the questions that arise in discussions of Tolkien's works
- are addressed in his letters, collected in _The Letters of J.R.R.
- Tolkien_. As it can be difficult to find the letters that relate to a
- given topic, Mike Brinza has compiled a list of common questions and
- where to look for their answers. This can be found at
-
- http://users.telerama.com/~taliesen/tolkien/lettersfaq.html
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-
- 5. Google's Usenet archive
-
- The only way to learn the details of all the positions in a debate
- on the newsgroups is to read the debates themselves. The best Usenet
- archive currently available is hosted by Google, which contains posts
- all the way back to the founding of Usenet in the 1980's. Google's
- advanced newsgroup search page is at
-
- http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
-
- To search specifically on the Tolkien groups, enter "*tolkien" in the
- "Newsgroup" field (without the quotes, of course). The main interface
- on this page is mostly self-explanatory, and should be familiar to
- anyone who has used a web search engine.
-
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-
- IV.B. WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE ABOUT TOLKIEN'S LANGUAGES?
-
- One of Tolkien's primary motivations for creating Middle-earth and
- its history was to provide a home for the languages that he invented.
- The interest in those languages among his readers has given rise to
- many books, journals, web sites, and other resources for those who wish
- to learn them, and we could not even begin to list them here.
-
- Perhaps the best list of such resources can be found at the Elvish
- Linguistic Fellowship web site:
-
- http://www.elvish.org/resources.html
-
- For actual details regarding the languages themselves, one of the best
- web sites is Ardalambion, located at
-
- http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/index.html
-
- A group of excellent Truetype fonts for writing in Tengwar and Cirth
- (together with a good introduction to using those alphabets) can be
- found at Dan Smith's Fantasy Fonts for Windows page:
-
- http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4948/
-
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-
- IV.C. STORIES OF MIDDLE-EARTH IN MANY FORMS
-
- 1. What editions of Tolkien's books in the US are best?
-
- Every edition of Tolkien's books is different, and before you buy a
- copy it's worth knowing what those differences are. Mike Brinza has
- created an excellent guide to the editions of Tolkien's books currently
- available in the United States, which is on the web at
-
- http://users.telerama.com/~taliesen/tolkien/editions.html
-
- Comments on the various audio recordings and dramatizations of _The
- Lord of the Rings_ can also be found at this site, at the bottom of the
- page listing editions of that book. (Some information on recordings
- from other works is given there as well.)
-
- One book that deserves its own mention is _The Hobbit_: many find
- that _The Annotated Hobbit_, edited by Douglas A. Anderson, is the most
- satisfying edition of the story. It contains illustrations from many
- other editions, as well as detailed commentary on the text and its
- history (which can, of course, be ignored if you're not interested).
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-
- 2. What is known about the current _Lord of the Rings_ movies?
-
- By this point, virtually everyone with any interest in Peter
- Jackson's _Lord of the Rings_ movie trilogy is already quite familiar
- with them. They were filmed simultaneously in New Zealand, and the
- third and final installment is scheduled to come out on December 17,
- 2003. The DVD/video release of _The Two Towers_ is in late August, but
- many fans will choose to wait to buy the extended cut of the film in
- November.
-
- Detailed information on the movies is inappropriate for a general
- FAQ, but there are many websites dedicated to the project. One good
- place to start is
-
- http://www.theonering.net/movie/faq/
-
- Tolkien fans' opinions on the movies vary enormously. Most (but
- certainly not all) of those on the Tolkien newsgroups who have seen the
- films seem to have enjoyed the experience, but most found at least some
- aspects of them quite disappointing, too. (The second movie deviated
- from the books more than the first one did, and generated
- correspondingly more frustration.) This is obviously a matter of
- personal taste, so it is important to be polite to those whose reaction
- was different than yours. In the end, Peter Jackson's own words are as
- good a description as any: "Sure, it's not really THE LORD OF THE RINGS
- ... but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie."
-
- [A few "spoilers" from the first movie, as examples:] Changes made
- in translating from the book to the screen range from cosmetic (there
- is no tent over Bilbo's Party Tree) to drastic (everything from "A
- Conspiracy Unmasked" through "Fog on the Barrow Downs" has been cut) to
- distorted (Aragorn singlehandedly fights off all five Nazgul at
- Weathertop by fending them off with a sword and lighting them on fire).
- Some people are seriously upset by all of these changes, some people
- aren't bothered by any of them, and most people fall somewhere in
- between.
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-
- 3. Where can I find out about music related to Middle-earth?
-
- Many musicians have been inspired by Tolkien's books, enough that
- this FAQ could not hope to list them. Instead, we refer you to the
- Tolkien Music List by Chris Seeman, at
-
- http://www.tolkien-music.com/
-
- The list is organized alphabetically by artist, and the lyrics for each
- song can be found by clicking on its title. The artist/title list is
- all on one page, which makes it possible to search for a title, but be
- aware that the page is very large and may take some time to load.
-