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- From: rbronews@brou8ghton.ca (Robert Broughton)
- Newsgroups: alt.support.non-smokers,news.answers,alt.support.non-smokers.moderated,alt.answers
- Subject: alt.support.non-smokers Frequently Asked Questions
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- Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:00:20 +0000 (UTC)
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- Archive-name: support/non-smokers
- Posting-Frequency: bi-monthly
- Last modified: 2003/11/04
- URL: http://airspace.bc.ca/a.s.n-s.faq.html or
- http://airspace.globalink.org/a.s.n-s.faq.html
- Maintainer: Robert Broughton (mailto:bob@broughton.ca)
-
- This is the list of Frequently Asked Questions for the
- alt.support.non-smokers newsgroup.
-
- 1. I still don't have a smoke-free workplace. Who can I contact for
- help?
- 2. I live in an apartment building, and cigaret smoke is coming into
- my suite because of people smoking elsewhere in the building. What
- can I do about it?
- 3. Who was Wayne MacLaren? How old was he when he died, and what did
- he die of?
- 4. What planet did "Kyoteee" come from?
- 5. Why does cigarette smoke stink so much?
- 6. Would any sane person want to spend the last couple of years of
- their life with emphysema?
- 7. Who is Heather Crowe?
- 8. Why does alt.support.non-smokers attract so many
- addicts^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htrolls?
- 9. How can I respond to trolls?
- 10. Do trollers have any consideration whatsoever for human beings?
- 11. Speaking of trolls, is it true that rumik@sympatico.ca is an
- anti-semite?
-
- 1. I still don't have a smoke-free workplace. Who can I contact for
- help?
- * Eastern U.S.: Action on Smoking and Health,
- http://ash.org
- * Western U.S.: Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights,
- http://www.no-smoke.org
- * Eastern Canada: Non-Smokers Rights Association, (416) 928-2900
- * Western Canada: Action on Smoking and Health, http://www.ash.ca
- * British Columbia, Canada: AIRSPACE Action on Smoking and
- Health, http://airspace.bc.ca
- * United Kingdom: Action on Smoking and Health,
- http://www.ash.org.uk
- * Elsewhere: Try http://airspace.bc.ca/forlinks.html
- or http://tobacco.org.
-
- 2. I live in an apartment building, and cigaret smoke is coming into
- my suite because of people smoking elsewhere in the building. What
- can I do about it?
-
- Two U.S. states, Massachusetts and Utah, have passed legislation
- that mandates smoke-free apartment buildings. (The text of Utah's
- law can be found at
- http://www.le.state.ut.us/~1997/bills/sbillint/sb0049s3.htm.)
- Communities in Florida and California have passed local
- regulations mandating this.
-
- In 1992, the Michigan Attorney General's office announced that it
- *is legal* for apartments to provide smoke-free buildings, or to
- prohibit smoking in entire communities. No [Michigan] State or
- Federal law prohibits it. Apartment Management companies have
- refused to provide this because, they say, that no one asks for
- smoke-free buildings.
-
- But it wasn't enough. The apartment communities have ignored the
- ruling and refused to provide what is an absolute basic need for
- many people.
-
- If you are bothered by second-hand smoke coming from neighbouring
- apartments, you should:
-
- * Inform your landlord.
- * Whenever you go looking for apartments, let the management
- know that you want (or need) a smoke-free building.
- * Write your State Representative and your Congressman
-
- People have the right to breath clean air in their homes, even
- apartments. But we must speak out, and demand it. *We* must
- *inform* the apartment management companies that we *require*
- smoke-free buildings, and if they refuse to listen, then we must
- *demand* legislation that forces them to provide it.
-
- The more people who speak up, they sooner they will start
- listening. Even apartment residents have a right to clean air in
- our homes, including on balconies and patios.
-
- 3. Who was Wayne MacLaren? How old was he when he died, and what did
- he die of?
-
- Wayne MacLaren was a model that was used for the Marlboro Man. He
- died of lung cancer at the age of 51.
-
- 4. What planet did "Kyoteee" (kyoteee@mindspring.com, real name:
- Barbara Aucoin) come from?
-
- a) Uranus.
- b) Waltham, MA.
-
- 5. Why does cigarette smoke stink so much?
-
- Nicotine is an irritant; one of its other commercial uses is for
- rat or insect poison. Cigarette smoke contains a long list of
- other chemicals (see
- http://www.healthplanning.gov.bc.ca/ttdr/index.html for a list of
- what's in major brands sold in Canada). One of them is ammonia,
- which serves the purpose of increasing the speed of metabolization
- of nicotine; in other words, it gives cigarettes a more powerful
- "hit".
-
- 6. Would any sane person want to spend the last couple of years of
- their life with emphysema?
-
- No.
-
- 7. Who is Heather Crowe?
-
- Heather Crowe worked as a waitress for 40 years in smoke-filled
- bars. She is 57 years old, and has terminal lung cancer. She has
- never been a smoker. She has been awarded compensation by
- Ontario's Workplace Safety and Insurance Board.
-
- 8. Why does alt.support.non-smokers attract so many
- addicts^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htrolls?
-
- Cigarettes are one of the most addictive drugs on the planet. Any
- demographic study of smokers done in North America or Western
- Europe will show that their income is below average. So, when the
- price of cigarettes goes up, they have little choice but to pay
- more, and spend less money on food, clothing, entertainment, and
- transportation. It's dangerous to stand between an addict and his
- or her drug.
-
- Some general discussion of what motivates trolls can be found at
- http://www.firelily.com/support/depression/trolls.html or
- http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sierra-club/faq/ (see the section on
- "brown spam").
-
- There is also a class of people who have an interest in the
- well-being of the tobacco industry. Not just stockholders,
- employees, and tobacco farmers, but also tobacco retailers and
- employees of charities funded by tobacco companies. One definition
- of the word "libertarian" is: "Someone who tries to make you
- believe that what's in his best interest is what's in everyone
- else's best interest also."
-
- 9. How can I respond to trolls?
-
- One way to improve the signal/noise ratio is to use a killfile.
- Any worthwhile news reader program has a "kill" or "filter"
- facility. Use it.
-
- If a troll contains material blatantly contrary to
- "support.non-smokers", you can try complaining to the troller's
- ISP. For example, if the troller's "From" address is
- kyoteee@erols.com, forward the troll to abuse@erols.com; for
- rumik@sympatico.ca, send it to abuse@sympatico.ca;
- hittman@bigfoot.com becomes abuse@bigfoot.com. (Also try
- abuse@newscene.com or abuse@rr.com for the latter.)
-
- Note that some posters to newsgroups munge their email address, so
- be sure to have your newsgroup reader set on "full headers", and
- then look in the headers for an "X-Complaints-To:" entry. For
- example, postings by 102776.1270@compuserve.com have the line
- "X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com". If this entry is not
- present, look at the "Path:" entry. The ISP where the posting
- originated will usually be the second-from-righmost entry in this
- line.
-
- Postings sometimes contain an "X-Originating-Host" header which is
- useful. For example, if the address is 199.60.85.7, an nslookup on
- this address gives h857.vic.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca. This is
- recognizable as a Canadian government computer. A complaint to
- postmaster@dfo-mpo.gc.ca should be taken seriously.
-
- 10. Do trollers have any consideration whatsoever for human beings?
-
- Apparently not. Here's an excerpt from a troll by Audrey Silk
- (102776.1270@compuserve.com): "Don't force your kids on me.
- Nothing worse than crying babies in public places and obnoxious
- toddlers and little kids whining and running around the place
- while their parents think it's cute. Keep them home until they can
- behave."
-
- 11. Speaking of trolls, is it true that rumik@sympatico.ca is an
- anti-semite?
-
- On August 22, 1996, "rumik" (real name: Rumi Khambata) made a
- posting to alt.conspiracy that began with: "Most people the world
- over are tired of holocaustmania."
-
- This statement presupposes that:
-
- 1. There is such a thing as "holocaustmania"; and
- 2. If there is such a thing, that people in India, China,
- Africa, Australia, etc. are tired of it. Perhaps there have
- been Gallup Polls taken in all these places that came up
- with this result.
-
- The original posting can be found at
- http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4vi7eh%2491q%40news.interlog.com
-
- --
- Bob Broughton
- http://broughton.ca/
- Vancouver, BC, Canada
- "Watch your mouth, if you ever want to cross the border. Bad things
- can happen to Canadians who use foul language in the US."
- mailto:stanlee_98@yahoo.com , Nov. 30, 2003
-