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- Summary: General information about suicide and suicide prevention.
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- Suicide is a significant cause of death in many western countries, in some
- cases exceeding deaths by motor vehicle accidents annually. Many countries
- spend vast amounts of money on safer roads, but very little on suicide
- awareness and prevention, or on educating people about how to make good life
- choices.
-
- Attempts at suicide, and suicidal thoughts or feelings are usually a symptom
- indicating that a person isn't coping, often as a result of some event or
- series of events that they personally find overwhelmingly traumatic or
- distressing. In many cases, the events in question will pass, their impact can
- be mitigated, or their overwhelming nature will gradually fade if the
- person is able to make constructive choices about dealing with the crisis when
- it is at its worst. Since this can be extremely difficult, this article is an
- attempt to raise awareness about suicide, so that we may be better able to
- recognize and help other people in crisis, and also to find how to seek help or
- make better choices ourselves.
-
-
- Help and resource information:
-
- This posting is accompanied by a companion posting containing information
- primarily about crisis and suicide prevention resources available on the
- Internet, and other national resources available in various countries.
- It should be available in the same newsgroup, but is also available from:
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/suicide/resources
-
- The information here is updated periodically, and is intended to be
- informative rather than authoritative. Readers are encouraged to offer
- feedback, suggestions, criticisms and any comments on ways you may have found
- it helpful. The latest version is also archived at:
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/suicide/info
-
-
- Here are a number of frequently asked questions to help raise awareness and
- dispel some of the common myths about suicide:
-
-
- 1. Why do people attempt suicide?
-
- People usually attempt suicide to block unbearable emotional pain, which is
- caused by a wide variety of problems. It is often a cry for help. A person
- attempting suicide is often so distressed that they are unable to see that they
- have other options: we can help prevent a tragedy by endeavoring to understand
- how they feel and helping them to look for better choices that they could
- make. Suicidal people often feel terribly isolated; because of their distress,
- they may not think of anyone they can turn to, furthering this isolation.
-
- In the vast majority of cases a suicide attemptor would choose differently if
- they were not in great distress and were able to evaluate their options
- objectively. Most suicidal people give warning signs in the hope that they
- will be rescued, because they are intent on stopping their emotional pain, not
- on dying.
-
-
- 2. Aren't all suicidal people crazy?
-
- No, having suicidal thoughts does not imply that you are crazy, or necessarily
- mentally ill. People who attempt suicide are often acutely distressed and the
- vast majority are depressed to some extent. This depression may be either a
- reactive depression which is an entirely normal reaction to difficult
- circumstances, or may be an endogenous depression which is the result of a
- diagnosable mental illness with other underlying causes. It may also be a
- combination of the two.
-
- The question of mental illness is a difficult one because both these kinds of
- depression may have similar symptoms and effects. Furthermore, the exact
- definition of depression as a diagnosable mental illnesses (i.e. clinical
- depression) tends to be somewhat fluid and inexact, so whether a person who is
- distressed enough to attempt suicide would be diagnosed as suffering from
- clinical depression may vary in different peoples opinions, and may also vary
- between cultures.
-
- It's probably more helpful to distinguish between these two types of depression
- and treat each accordingly than to simply diagnose all such depression as
- being a form of mental illness, even though a person suffering from a reactive
- depression might match the diagnostic criteria typically used to diagnose
- clinical depression. For example, Appleby and Condonis[1] write:
-
- The majority of individuals who commit suicide do not have a diag-
- nosable mental illness. They are people just like you and I who at a
- particular time are feeling isolated, desperately unhappy and alone.
- Suicidal thoughts and actions may be the result of life's stresses and
- losses that the individual feels they just can't cope with.
-
- In a society where there is much stigma and ignorance regarding mental illness,
- a person who feels suicidal may fear that other people will think they are
- "crazy" if they tell them how they feel, and so may be reluctant to reach out
- for help in a crisis. In any case, describing someone as "crazy", which has
- strong negative connotations, probably isn't helpful and is more likely to
- dissuade someone from seeking help which may be very beneficial, whether they
- have a diagnosable mental illness or not.
-
- People who are suffering from a mental illness such as schizophrenia or
- clinical depression do have significantly higher suicide rates than average,
- although they are still in the minority of attemptors. For these people,
- having their illness correctly diagnosed can mean that an appropriate
- treatment can begin to address it.
-
- For more information about clinical depression, see the alt.support.depression
- FAQ, available from:
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/alt-support-depression/faq/
-
-
- 3. Doesn't talking about suicide encourage it?
-
- It depends what aspect you talk about. Talking about the feelings surrounding
- suicide promotes understanding and can greatly reduce the immediate distress of
- a suicidal person. In particular, it is OK to ask someone if they are
- considering suicide, if you suspect that they are not coping. If they are
- feeling suicidal, it can come as a great relief to see that someone else has
- some insight into how they feel.
-
- This can be a difficult question to ask, so here are some possible approaches:
- "Are you feeling so bad that you're considering suicide?"
- "That sounds like an awful lot for one person to take; has it made you
- think about killing yourself to escape?"
- "Has all that pain you're going through made you think about hurting
- yourself?"
- "Have you ever felt like just throwing it all away?"
-
- The most appropriate way to raise the subject will differ according to the
- situation, and what the people involved feel comfortable with. It's also
- important to take the persons overall response into consideration when
- interpreting their answer, since a person in distress may initially say "no",
- even if they mean "yes". A person who isn't feeling suicidal will usually be
- able to give a comfortable "no" answer, and will often continue by talking
- about a specific reason they have for living. It can also be helpful to ask
- what they would do if they ever were in a situation where they were seriously
- considering killing themselves, in case they become suicidal at some point in
- the future, or they are suicidal but don't initially feel comfortable about
- telling you.
-
- Talking exclusively about how to commit suicide can give ideas to people who
- feel suicidal, but haven't thought about how they'd do it yet. Media reports
- that concentrate solely on the method used and ignore the emotional backdrop
- behind it can tend to encourage copy-cat suicides.
-
-
- 4. So what sort of things can contribute to someone feeling suicidal?
-
- People can usually deal with isolated stressful or traumatic events and
- experiences reasonably well, but when there is an accumulation of such events
- over an extended period, our normal coping strategies can be pushed to the
- limit.
-
- The stress or trauma generated by a given event will vary from person to
- person depending on their background and how they deal with that particular
- stressor. Some people are personally more or less vulnerable to particular
- stressful events, and some people may find certain events stressful which
- others would see as a positive experience. Furthermore, individuals deal
- with stress and trauma in different ways; the presence of multiple risk
- factors does not necessarily imply that a person will become suicidal.
-
- Depending on a person's individual response, risk factors that may contribute
- to a person feeling suicidal include:
-
- - Significant changes in:
- - Relationships.
- - Well-being of self or family member.
- - Body image.
- - Job, school, university, house, locality.
- - Financial situation.
- - World environment.
-
- - Significant losses:
- - Death of a loved one.
- - Loss of a valued relationship.
- - Loss of self esteem or personal expectations.
- - Loss of employment.
-
- - Perceived abuse:
- - Physical.
- - Emotional/Psychological.
- - Sexual.
- - Social.
- - Neglect.
-
-
- 5. How would I know if someone I care about was contemplating suicide?
-
- Often suicidal people will give warning signs, consciously or unconsciously,
- indicating that they need help and often in the hope that they will be rescued.
- These usually occur in clusters, so often several warning signs will be
- apparent. The presence of one or more of these warning signs is not intended
- as a guarantee that the person is suicidal: the only way to know for sure is
- to ask them. In other cases, a suicidal person may not want to be rescued,
- and may avoid giving warning signs.
-
- Typical warning signs which are often exhibited by people who are feeling
- suicidal include:
- - Withdrawing from friends and family.
- - Depression, broadly speaking; not necessarily a diagnosable mental illness
- such as clinical depression, but indicated by signs such as:
- - Loss of interest in usual activities.
- - Showing signs of sadness, hopelessness, irritability.
- - Changes in appetite, weight, behavior, level of activity or
- sleep patterns.
- - Loss of energy.
- - Making negative comments about self.
- - Recurring suicidal thoughts or fantasies.
- - Sudden change from extreme depression to being `at peace' (may
- indicate that they have decided to attempt suicide).
- - Talking, Writing or Hinting about suicide.
- - Previous attempts.
- - Feelings of hopelessness and helplessness.
- - Purposefully putting personal affairs in order:
- - Giving away possessions.
- - Sudden intense interest in personal wills or life insurance.
- - `Clearing the air' over personal incidents from the past.
-
-
- This list is not definitive: some people may show no signs yet still feel
- suicidal, others may show many signs yet be coping OK; the only way to know for
- sure is to ask. In conjunction with the risk factors listed above, this list
- is intended to help people identify others who may be in need of support.
-
- If a person is highly perturbed, has formed a potentially lethal plan to kill
- themselves and has the means to carry it out immediately available, they would
- be considered likely to attempt suicide.
-
-
- 6. I'm a bit uncomfortable about the topic; can't it just go away?
-
- Suicide has traditionally been a taboo topic in western society, which has led
- to further alienation and only made the problem worse. Even after their
- deaths, suicide victims have often been alienated by not being buried near
- other people in the cemetery, as though they had committed some utterly
- unforgivable sin.
-
- We could go a long way to reducing our suicide rate by accepting people as they
- are, removing the social taboo on talking about feeling suicidal, and telling
- people that it _is_ OK to feel so bad that you'd think about suicide. A person
- simply talking about how they feel greatly reduces their distress; they also
- begin to see other options, and are much less likely to attempt suicide.
-
-
- 7. So what can I do about it?
-
- There usually are people to whom a suicidal person can turn for help; if you
- ever know someone is feeling suicidal, or feel suicidal yourself, seek out
- people who could help, and keep seeking until you find someone who will listen.
- Once again, the only way to know if someone is feeling suicidal is if you ask
- them and they tell you.
-
- Suicidal people, like all of us, need love, understanding and care. People
- usually don't ask "are you feeling so bad that you're thinking about suicide?"
- directly. Locking themselves away increases the isolation they feel and the
- likelihood that they may attempt suicide. Asking if they are feeling suicidal
- has the effect of giving them permission to feel the way they do, which reduces
- their isolation; if they are feeling suicidal, they may see that someone else
- is beginning to understand how they feel.
-
- If someone you know tells you that they feel suicidal, above all, listen to
- them. Then listen some more. Tell them "I don't want you to die". Try to
- make yourself available to hear about how they feel, and try to form a
- "no-suicide contract": ask them to promise you that they won't suicide, and
- that if they feel that they want to hurt themselves again, they won't do
- anything until they can contact either you, or someone else that can support
- them. Take them seriously, and refer them to someone equipped to help them
- most effectively, such as a Doctor, Community Health Centre, Counsellor,
- Psychologist, Social Worker, Youth Worker, Minister, etc etc. If they appear
- acutely suicidal and won't talk, you may need to get them to a hospital
- emergency department.
-
- Don't try to "rescue" them or to take their responsibilities on board yourself,
- or be a hero and try to handle the situation on your own. You can be the most
- help by referring them to someone equipped to offer them the help they need,
- while you continue to support them and remember that what happens is
- ultimately their responsibility. Get yourself some support too, as you try to
- get support for them; don't try to save the world on your own shoulders.
-
- If you don't know where to turn, chances are there are a number of 24 Hour
- anonymous telephone counselling or suicide prevention services in your area
- that you can call, listed in your local telephone directory.
-
- The crisis resource posting mentioned at the top of this posting also lists a
- number of Internet resources which provide support for people in crisis.
-
-
- 8. Help? Counselling? But isn't counselling just a waste of time?
-
- Certainly it is true that counselling is not a magic cure-all. It will be
- effective only if it empowers a person to build the sort of relationships they
- need for long-term support. It is not a "solution" in itself, but it can be
- a vital, effective and helpful step along the way.
-
-
- 9. Talk, talk, talk. It's all just talk. How's that going to help?
-
- While it's not a long-term solution in itself, asking a person and having them
- talk about how they feel greatly reduces their feelings of isolation and
- distress, which in turn significantly reduces the immediate risk of suicide.
- People that do care may be reluctant to be direct in talking about suicide
- because it's something of a taboo subject.
-
- In the medium and longer term, it's important to seek help to resolve the
- problems as soon as possible; be they emotional or psychological. Previous
- attemptors are more likely to attempt suicide again, so it's very important to
- get unresolved issues sorted out with professional help or counselling as
- necessary.
-
- Some issues may never be completely resolved by counselling, but a good
- counsellor should be able to help a person deal with them constructively at
- present, and to teach them better coping skills and better methods of dealing
- with problems which arise in the future.
-
-
- 10. How do telephone counselling and suicide hot-line services work?
-
- Different services vary in what they offer, but in general you can ring up and
- speak anonymously to a counsellor about any sort of problem in a no-pressure
- context that's less threatening than a face-to-face session. Talking the
- situation over with a caring, independent person can be of great assistance
- whether you're in a crisis yourself, or worried about someone else who is, and
- they usually have connections with local services to refer you to if further
- help is required. You don't have to wait until the deepest point of crisis or
- until you have a life-threatening problem before you seek help.
-
- Demand for telephone services vary, so the most important thing to remember is
- that if you can't get through on one, keep trying several until you do. You
- should usually get through straight away, but don't give up or pin your life on
- it. Many people that feel suicidal don't realize that help can be so close, or
- don't think to call at the time because their distress is so overwhelming.
-
-
- 11. What about me; am I at risk?
-
- It's quite likely that some people that read this will one day attempt suicide,
- so here's a quick suicide prevention exercise: think of a list of 5 people who
- you might talk to if you had no-one else to turn to, starting with the most
- preferred person at the top of the list. Form a "no-suicide contract" with
- yourself promising that if you ever feel suicidal you will go to each of the
- people on this list in turn and simply tell them how you feel; and that if
- someone didn't listen, you'd just keep going until you found someone that
- would. Many suicide attemptors are so distressed that they can't see anywhere
- to turn in the midst of a crisis, so having thought beforehand of several
- people to approach would help.
-
-
- 12. How does suicide affect friends and family members?
-
- Suicide is often extremely traumatic for the friends and family members that
- remain (the survivors), even though people that attempt suicide often think
- that no-one cares about them. In addition to the feelings of grief normally
- associated with a person's death, there may be guilt, anger, resentment,
- remorse, confusion and great distress over unresolved issues. The stigma
- surrounding suicide can make it extremely difficult for survivors to deal with
- their grief and can cause them also to feel terribly isolated.
-
- Survivors often find that people relate differently to them after the suicide,
- and may be very reluctant to talk about what has happened for fear of
- condemnation. They often feel like a failure because someone they cared so
- much about has chosen to suicide, and may also be fearful of forming any new
- relationships because of the intense pain they have experienced through the
- relationship with the person who has completed suicide.
-
- People who have experienced the suicide of someone they cared deeply about can
- benefit from "survivor groups", where they can relate to people who have been
- through a similar experience, and know they will be accepted without being
- judged or condemned. Most counselling services should be able to refer people
- to groups in their local area. Survivor groups, counselling and other
- appropriate help can be of tremendous assistance in easing the intense burden
- of unresolved feelings that suicide survivors often carry.
-
- The suicide-survivors mailing list provides such a group via electronic mail.
- See the resource list companion posting mentioned at the top of this posting
- for more information.
-
-
- 13. Hang on; isn't it illegal though? Doesn't that stop people?
-
- Whether it is legal or not makes no difference to someone who is in such
- distress that they are trying to kill themselves. You can't legislate against
- emotional pain so making it illegal doesn't stop people in distress from
- feeling suicidal. It is likely to merely isolate them further, particularly
- since the vast majority of attempts are unsuccessful, leaving the attemptor in
- a worse state than before if they're now a criminal as well. In some
- countries and states it is still illegal, in other places it's not.
-
-
- 14. But don't people have the right to kill themselves if they want to?
-
- Each of us is responsible for our own actions and life choices. In a sense
- then, an individual may have the right to do as they wish with their life,
- including to end it if they so desire. Western societies in particular tend
- to emphasise individual rights over communal rights and responsibilities.
-
- However, every person exists as part of a larger network of relationships of
- various types which set the context in which an individual's rights and
- responsibilities exist. People who feel lonely, isolated, distressed and
- hopeless about their future can find it extremely difficult to recognise
- supportive relationships which may exist around them. This often causes them
- to grossly underestimate both the degree of support which could be gained
- from those around them, and the impact that their suicide would have should
- they complete it.
-
- Discussions regarding rights can become emotive, particularly when there
- is a conflict between individual and communal rights and responsibilities.
- For example, people who have been emotionally devastated by the suicide of
- someone close to them could equally assert their right to not devastated by
- someone else's suicide. It should be reiterated however that a person
- contemplating suicide is more likely to need understanding than a lecture on
- their responsibilities to other people.
-
- Ultimately, helping people to deal with their problems better, see their
- options more clearly, make better choices for themselves and avoid choices
- that they would otherwise regret empowers people with their rights rather
- than taking their rights away.
-
-
- Footnotes:
- 1. "Hearing the cry: Suicide Prevention", Appleby and Condonis, 1990.
- ISBN 0-646-02395-0
-
-
- Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 by Graham Stoney <greyham@research.canon.com.au>.
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