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- Subject: rec.sport.rugby.union FAQ: introducing rsru (part 2/4)
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- Summary: Introduction to the Rugby Union newsgroup and Rugby Union itself
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- Last-modified: 15 December 2002 (changes marked **)
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- Introducing rec.sport.rugby.union
-
- 1.1 Charter
-
- Discussion on all aspects of Rugby Union worldwide. This includes the day
- to day happenings in the sport, discussion of results and transfers, rule
- amendments etc.
-
-
- 1.2 Should I subscribe to rec.sport.rugby.union?
-
- If you have an interest in Rugby Union worldwide, this is the group for
- you. If you're merely interested in Rugby League, you could try
- rec.sport.rugby.league. There is also a number of local newsgroups, for
- those interested in Rugby Union in a single country.
-
- Rec.sport.rugby.union is an unmoderated newsgroup. This means anyone can
- join the discussion without having to gain expressed permission. However,
- please restrict your articles to the subject of Rugby Union.
-
-
- 1.3 History
-
- Rec.sport.rugby.union (usually abbreviated to RSRU) was created along with
- rec.sport.rugby.league, thereby ending the existence of the general Rugby
- newsgroup rec.sport.rugby, which itself dated back to January 1991. This
- was done to end long running flamewars between fans of the two codes. The
- RFD for the two old groups to be split was eventually submitted by Paul
- McNally on 24 July 1995. The proposal to create rec.sport.rugby.union was
- approved by the great majority of voters (177 - 27), resulting in the
- control message to be posted on 19 September 1995. See
- ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.sport.rugby-reorg
- for the complete breakdown.
-
-
- 1.4 Posting conventions and netiquette
-
- 1.4.1 Do not post the score of a game in the subject of a posting. Many
- subscribers only get to see the games delayed and don't want to know the
- score before having seen the game themselves. If your posting contains a
- result, add the suffix [spoiler] or [result] in the subject.
-
- 1.4.2 If you are making a reply to one point in a long post, please delete
- those parts of the post that are not relevant to your comments. If you
- wish, you can replace the removed comments with </snip>. Virtually
- everybody using a dial-up connection pays more to receive large posts, so
- be considerate. If the subject changes as a result please re-edit the
- subject header.
-
- 1.4.3 Try to keep your discussion to the subject of Rugby Union. If your
- discussion moves away from the subject of Rugby Union or gets personal
- please try to continue it by e-mail.
-
- 1.4.4 Please keep your signature short (preferably 4 lines or less) and put
- a sig-separator (--) in the line above the sig itself, as this enables most
- newsreaders to automatically slice off the signature upon reply.
-
- 1.4.5 Please try to avoid starting flame wars, especially along the lines
- of "my team's better than your team", or "your team is boring". If you must
- make sweeping statements, please try to justify them. If you mean something
- in jest, please use a smiley ;-) In general, try not to be deliberately
- offensive to anyone and think about what you have said before you post.
- Please try to avoid topics that have been discussed over and over again.
- Some of them include 'NH rugby is 10 man and boring', 'RU is a better game
- than RL', 'SH rugby is all froth and no substance', 'The English press are
- arrogant', 'NH/SH refereeing', 'Creatine', 'Pacific Islanders in the All
- Blacks', 'Any S12/NPC side would beat any European side by at least 40
- points' and worst of all 'Food poisoning accusations at the 1995 RWC Final'.
-
- 1.4.6 Please do not post entirely in capitals as this will annoy a large
- group of people whose eyesight you have hurt. Besides, writing in capitals
- is considered yelling, which has little or no place in a well-behaving
- newsgroup like RSRU.
-
- 1.4.7 Crossposting to other newsgroups is encouraged, but only when the
- topic of your posting overlaps. Therefore you should see the charters of
- the newsgroups you're posting into. Long flamewars between any two codes,
- whether it is towards Rugby League, American Football or Aussie Rules, are
- to be avoided. Please do not reply to any post sent to a large number of
- newsgroups.
-
- 1.4.8 Do not judge people by extension of an e-mail address. A .au suffix
- does not necessarily mean a person is Australian. A number of subscribers
- to rec.sport.rugby.union live in exile and aren't amused at all when
- wrongly being called Australian, Pom, Yank or whatever. Also, be aware that
- a .uk suffix means more than England alone.
-
- 1.4.9 If a thread you're starting up covers one specific area of Rugby, you
- might want to indicate this in the subject header by including a prefix
- tag, ie [S12] Round 5 results, [6Ns] Italy vs France preview. This flagging
- makes it easier to use kill- and watchfilters in one's news reader.
-
- 1.4.10 (aka Rule 23) The only way to avoid accusations of whinging is to
- say nothing beyond congratulating the other team.
-
- 1.4.11 (aka Official RSRU John Hill's Law) A poster automatically loses the
- argument should he resort to personal abuse, racism / fascism / nazism
- accusations or to criticising spelling or grammar.
-
-
- 1.5 How to post into rec.sport.rugby.union
-
- If you regularly use newsgroups on Usenet you should have no problems
- posting to the group. If you are unfamiliar with Usenet then please read
- the appropriate documentation for more information. The FAQ Consortium
- offers a series of Usenet Primers on http://www.faqs.org/usenet. If this
- does not make things clear, the group news.newusers.questions is frequented
- by experienced Usenet users who offer help and suggestions on netiquette.
- Its official homepage (http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq) is an excellent
- starting place when you're new on Usenet.
-
- Rec.sport.rugby.union is a non-binaries newsgroup. Posting attachments,
- other than pgp-encrypted signatures, is not allowed and could lead to
- sanctions imposed upon the offender. If you want to
- share binaries, upload them to your website or post them into a binaries
- newsgroup like alt.binaries.pictures.sports, then post a pointer into RSRU.
-
- Make sure your newsreader is set not to post messages as html into the
- group, as this will annoy many subscribers not using Netscape or Outlook.
-
- Promoting anything related to Rugby Union is OK, but please be moderate in
- your posting frequency. There is no need at all to tell us about your Rugby
- tournament three times a week. Make sure you post your message only once
- (it might take some time for your message to appear on the news-server).
- Don't post test-messages into rec.sport.rugby.union and use misc.test
- instead. That group is "read" by several computers all over the world that
- will send you e-mail to confirm your post was successful.
-
- The nature of this newsgroup means that people are going to have strong
- opinions about various topics. Reaction to these opinions is the entire
- lifeblood of this newsgroup. However, postings that merely tell someone
- that he is a "@#%$er" are not postings that refer to Rugby Union and
- therefore inappropriate for rec.sport.rugby.union. In other words: if your
- posting is a flame about Rugby Union, fine, it belongs here. A flame about
- a person does not.
-
- And talking about flames: there are always going to be a few idiots in the
- newsgroup, abusing everybody and everything, refusing to have a decent
- discussion. This is not the place to give a personal list of RSRU-idiots,
- but the advise is: be the smarter of the two and just ignore or killfile
- the tosser instead of starting up a needless flamewar. The general rule in
- any newsgroup: self-censorship would be *APPRECIATED*.
-
-
- 1.6 Language
-
- No rule on the language to use on rec.sport.rugby.union has been set out in
- the group charter. However, there is some sort of convention that posting
- in any language should be allowed, because RSRU aims to be a forum for
- Rugby Union fans worldwide. Unfortunately, there are always going to be a
- few reactions to a non-English posting that one must speak English in an
- English group. It is hereby made clear that this is not mandatory and that
- everyone may basically post in his own language. Still, this is a
- discussion group, so you might want to write in a language actually
- understood by a few of us, in order to get the discussion going.
-
- Please be aware that, despite Rugby being a sport mainly for native
- speakers of English, some subscribers to the group don't speak English as
- well as you do. Please accept this. After all, according to the Official
- RSRU John Hill's Law, flaming a poster for poor spelling and/or grammar
- means you've lost the argument.
-
- If you're not sure of your spelling yourself, you could add the suffix
- (sp?) to the word you're not sure about.
-
-
- ** 1.7 Common abbreviations on rec.sport.rugby.union
-
- 3Ns - Tri Nations
- 6Ns - Six Nations
- ABs - All Blacks
- CC - Currie Cup (South Africa)
- ENC - European Nations Cup
- FIRA - Federation Internationale de Rugby Amateur
- IC - Inside centre
- ICC - Independent citing commissioner
- IR(F)B - International Rugby (Football) Board
- LH - Loosehead Prop
- MOM - Man of the match
- NH - Northern Hemisphere (also: North Harbour)
- NPC - National Provincial Championship (New Zealand)
- NZ - New Zealand
- OC - Outside centre
- RL - Rugby League
- RS - Ranfurly Shield
- RSRU - rec.sport.rugby.union
- RU - Rugby Union
- RWC - Rugby World Cup
- S12 - Super Twelve
- SA - South Africa (might also be: South Australia)
- SANZAR - South Africa, New Zealand, Australia Rugby. Can be the governing
- body for S12 and 3Ns, as well as the three nations itself.
- SH - Southern Hemisphere
- TH - Tighthead Prop
- TJ - Touch Judge
- TMO - Television Match Official
- UIOLI - Use it or lose it
- ZP - Zurich Premiership (England)
-
- Acronym Finder (http://www.acronymfinder.com) should help you looking up
- acronyms that are not related to Rugby.
-
-
- 1.8 About this FAQ
-
- In the early days of RSRU there was a FAQ, which was maintained by Rhodri
- Howell. This, however, was incomplete and had not been posted for several
- years, when Mees Roelofs offered to make a new one in December 1999. After
- a few beta versions and lots of feedback, the first finalised version was
- posted on 1 February 2000. On 30 January 2001 the FAQ gained approval for
- posting to *.answers newsgroups.
-
- The status of FAQs is being discussed regularly in all sorts of fora. In my
- view, a FAQ is little more than a posting that is being made regularly. The
- statements made here are mine; the reason RSRU regulars refer to the FAQ
- occasionally is that they share these views, not in the last place because
- many of them have helped creating and maintaining the FAQ. Bottom line: the
- FAQ is not law, the FAQ is not official, its information is not official
- and a group convention is a convention not because the FAQ says so, but
- because it is felt so by the readers of the group. In fact, you might want
- to go and create your own FAQ and get it approved.
-
- If you have a suggestion for the FAQ, please post it into the group first.
- However, if I've neglected to update things in section 2.7 (Current
- Holders), just notify me.
-
- You're free to publish this FAQ on your own website. It can be freely
- stored or distributed for non-commercial use as long as it is not changed,
- and the copyright notices attached to it are left intact. Conversion into
- HTML is allowed. However, you must make sure that the FAQ on your website
- is up to date. The information in this FAQ is provided "as is"; I do not
- accept any responsibility for the content of websites this document links to.
-
- Finally, credits go out to Mike Amm, Paul Bickerstaff, Don Black, Greig
- Blanchett, Myk Cameron, Jason Cormier, Ian Daley, Pete Devlin, Stephen
- Doyle, Andrew Forsyth, David Gallagher, John Hill, Tom Hodgson, Rhodri
- Howell, Tom Joyce, Declan Kealy, Paul Kendall, Klaus Mahlmann, Charlie
- Pearce, Henk Scholten, Will Sutton, Bill Taylor, Tom Vavasour and John
- Williams.
-
-
- RSRU FAQ (c) 2000-2003 M.M. Roelofs, Rotterdam (Netherlands)
-
-