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- From: Ed Hew <edhew@xenitec.on.ca>
- Subject: FAQ: SCO UNIX newsgroups and mailing lists
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- Summary: SCO newsgroups and mailing lists historical and operational FAQ
- Keywords: sco, newsgroups, charters, mailing lists, moderators, addresses
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- Archive-name: sco/newsgroups-faq
- Posting-Frequency: bi-monthly
- X-Version: 4.3.1a
- X-Maintainer: Ed Hew <edhew@xenitec.on.ca>
- X-Original: Fri May 10 12:17:43 EDT 1991
- X-Revised: Mon Jan 21 00:43:59 EST 2002
-
- Evolution of SCO newsgroups and Mailing Lists
- ---------------------------------------------
-
- Current SCO Newsgroups: Current SCO Mailing lists
- ---------------------- -------------------------
- comp.unix.sco.announce scoann@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.sco.misc scomsc@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.sco.programmer scoprg@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.unixware.announce scoann@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.unixware.misc scouwr@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.xenix.sco scoxnx@xenitec.on.ca
-
- A Bit of History:
- ----------------
-
- Many readers enjoyed the opportunity to obtain and contribute useful
- information on SCO Open Desktop since 1990 through the ancestral USENET
- newsgroup sco.opendesktop or its companion mailing list. Similarly,
- there was a demonstrated need for an information and discussion forum
- for SCO products in general.
-
- Knowledge of the proponent and creation date of the comp.unix.xenix.sco
- newsgroup is lost in antiquity; I'm pretty sure it was circa 1987.
-
- Various mailing lists were created between 1989 and 1991 as SCO UNIX
- and then SCO OpenDesktop were released. SCO announced that their
- previously internal sco.opendesktop newsgroup would become available
- for public propagation as of Apr 26, 1990. A companion bi-directionally
- gated "scoodt" mailing list was coincidently implemented. Years later,
- "scoodt" was merged with the "scogen" mailing list.
-
- With the increasing demand for accessibility and for additional SCO
- newsgroups, many current contributors including those who have been
- active in circulating SCO related newsgroups and mailing lists felt
- that the readership would be best served by creating a biz.sco.*
- hierarchy to improve propagation (and hence availability) worldwide.
-
- biz.sco.{opendesktop,general,announce} were "newgrouped" May 1, 1991
- in accordance with accepted procedure within the "biz" hierarchy.
- Given the content, this change relocated the "opendesktop" newsgroup
- to a more proper place within the established usenet news hierarchy
- and added the new "announce" and "general" groups. Companion mailing
- lists were implemented. The former "sco-list@uunet.uu.net" was
- merged with "scogen" on Aug 1, 1991. The biz.sco.* newsgroups were
- replaced with the comp.unix.sco.* hierarchy on Apr 22, 1995.
-
- The biz.sco.binaries and biz.sco.sources moderated newsgroups were
- created on June 1, 1992 to respectively accommodate SCO Xenix, UNIX
- and OpenDesktop specific binaries and source code. Their purpose
- since been superseded by various anonymous FTP sites; see:
- ftp://ftp.celestial.com/README.sco-sites .
-
- biz.sco.magazine was newgrouped Dec 14, 1992, to provide a discussion
- area for the readers, writers and publishers of the original SCO
- Magazine and now SCO World Magazine. It was superseded by
- comp.unix.sco.misc on Apr 22, 1995.
-
- The biz.univel.misc newsgroup was created in October 1993. It was
- replaced by comp.unix.unixware when Novell purchased USL, and later
- split into comp.unix.unixware.announce and comp.unix.unixware.misc
- in April 1995. With the Dec 6, 1995 SCO acquisition of the UnixWare
- and UNIX SysV Release 4 technology from Novell, comp.unix.unixware.misc
- continues as the proper forum for UnixWare discussions. UnixWare
- announcements are now posted to comp.unix.sco.announce. The
- comp.unix.unixware.announce newsgroup is currently unused and will
- likely be removed eventually.
-
- biz.sco.vtcl replaced biz.sco.wserver (created Sep 15, 1993) as the
- discussion newsgroup for the revised version of the SCO "Visual Tcl"
- technology formerly referred to as the "Widget Server" on Sep 5, 1994.
- It was in turn replaced by comp.unix.sco.programmer on Apr 22, 1995.
-
- The RFD for the migration of biz.sco.* to comp.unix.sco.* was posted
- on Dec 13 1994. The resulting CFV was posted Mar 22, 1995 and passed
- the vote on April 14, 1995. Official newgroup cmsg's went out within
- a few days. Corresponding backwards compatible newsgroup<>mailing-list
- gateways were implemented on Apr 22, 1995. The old biz.sco.* newsgroups
- were removed on June 3, 1995.
-
- The comp.unix.unixware.misc bi-directional news<>mail gateway was
- implemented on Feb 19, 1997.
-
- The comp.unix.xenix.sco bi-directional news<>mail gateway was
- implemented on May 4, 1997.
-
- Long time subscribers should now direct their postings as follows:
-
- Old: Current:
- --- -------
- biz.sco.announce } comp.unix.sco.announce
- comp.unix.unixware.announce } comp.unix.sco.announce
- biz.univel.misc comp.unix.unixware.misc
- biz.sco.general } comp.unix.sco.misc
- biz.sco.magazine } comp.unix.sco.misc
- biz.sco.opendesktop } comp.unix.sco.misc
- biz.sco.vtcl comp.unix.sco.programmer
- comp.unix.xenix.sco comp.unix.xenix.sco
-
-
- Newsgroups and Mailing Lists:
- ----------------------------
-
- Subject to the USENET NEWS hierarchies carried by your upstream feed,
- you are able to subscribe to the following:
-
- Newsgroup mailing list subscription
- --------- -------------------------
- comp.unix.sco.announce scoann-request@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.sco.misc scomsc-request@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.sco.programmer scoprg-request@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.unixware.misc scouwr-request@xenitec.on.ca
- comp.unix.xenix.sco scoxnx-request@xenitec.on.ca
-
- You are _strongly_ encouraged to obtain the comp.* newsgroups via USENET
- NEWS mechanisms vrs email. Should comp.unix.sco.*, comp.unix.xenix.sco
- or comp.unix.unixware.misc not be locally available, please check with
- your local newsadmin or have them request a feed from their provider.
- Anyone having difficulty arranging a news feed for these newsgroups
- is welcome to email the undersigned and I'll do my best to help.
- We also offer all required software in source code form via anonymous
- FTP and UUCP, as do many archive sites. If, after having explored all
- options, you are still unable to find a newsfeed for comp.unix.sco.*,
- comp.unix.unixware.misc or comp.unix.xenix.sco, you may subscribe to
- these mailing lists.
-
- Be aware that the traffic volume in comp.unix.sco.misc often exceeds
- 50 articles *daily*, thus you should be prepared to have your mailbox
- flooded to this extent when subscribing to the gated "scomsc" mailing
- list. Most people find that news is a much better mechanism than email
- to handle this sort of volume.
-
- The comp.unix.sco.*, comp.unix.unixware.misc, comp.unix.xenix.sco,
- and sco.public.* discussion newsgroups are bi-directionally gated to
- companion mailing lists. The comp.unix.sco.announce newsgroup, being
- moderated, is uni-directionally gated to its companion mailing list.
- Anyone without access to USENET NEWS but who does have a UUCP or
- Internet mail feed can still participate fully using email. Mailing
- list subscribers should send their request to the appropriate "-request"
- mailing list subscription address above, including the correct command
- in the message body of their request.
-
- Please use the format:
- Add: mailing-list: your_working_email_address (Your Real Name)
- Examples:
- Add: scoann: your_logname@site.do.main (Your Real Name)
- Add: scomsc: joes@foobar.com (Joe Smith)
-
- Deletions are handled the same way, simply substitute "Delete:" for
- "Add:", ensuring that you use the exact same address you subscribed with.
- Subscribers receive a mailing list introduction and a copy of this FAQ
- when their request is processed. Mailing list subscriptions are free,
- subject to whatever arrangements you may have with your network and/or
- Internet service providers.
-
- Mailing-list Subscriber and Posting Problems:
- --------------------------------------------
-
- If you don't receive an acknowledgment within a few days, it's likely
- that someone, somewhere, is bouncing mail replies to you, and would do
- the same with mailing list traffic for you. Check your connectivity,
- paying particular attention to your DNS records which determine routing.
- You must resolve your problems before trying to subscribe again.
- Similarly, should you experience a sudden and prolonged drop to zero
- volume on the mailing lists, this typically indicates that we are no
- longer able to find a working route to your site. We lose a handful
- of subscribers this way each month.
-
- Addresses that cause a severe deluge of error messages directed at
- the mailing list administrator will not be automatically reinstated.
- Provide a stable address for the appropriate local network or ISP
- administrator along with that person's explicit permission to accept
- automatic redirection of error notifications that might result from
- resubscription of the problem address. Such problems are typically
- solved only when that administrator receives the errors as they happen.
-
- If you are trying to resubscribe an address that was removed due to
- such problems, please include a stable redirection address with your
- resubscription request. Otherwise your request will be substantially
- delayed until such time as the human mailing list administrator can
- find time to personally deal with your request by asking you for that
- redirection address for your error messages.
-
- Due to the unfortunate advent of SPAM, hosts that originate or relay
- SPAM are blocked from smtp access to the mailing list hub site using
- all the RBL mechanisms available at any point in time. If you find
- yourself subject to this restriction, you must ask your administrator
- to resolve the root cause of the problem by putting appropriate
- anti-spamming provisions in place and notifying the Internet community
- and various RBL maintainers that this has been done so that smtp-
- blocking can be lifted. Where this is not feasible, the only solution
- is to connect to an ISP that does not support SPAM activities. See
- URL: http://spam.abuse.net for details.
-
- You may correct problems caused by operating an open smtp relay
- with the free implementation of Obtuse smtpd for SCO MMDF (and
- other environments), available via:
- ftp://ftp.xenitec.on.ca/pub/antispam/obtuse-smtpd.tar.gz
-
- To further protect mailing lists hosted on the hub site from SPAM,
- smtp connection requests must come from hosts which have PTR resource
- records available to permit address resolution using IN-ADDR.ARPA,
- otherwise expect smtp connection requests from them to be refused.
- Those who would steal your resources and time are commonly known to
- use throw-away unresolvable raw IP numbers, and are thus routinely
- and mostly automatically blocked.
-
- Only articles which adhere to the newsgroup charters are authorized
- to traverse the SCO mail<>news gateways. Articles which abuse the
- gateways by blantantly ignoring the respective newsgroup charter(s)
- or are UCE, UBE or SPAM are subject to cancellation.
-
- The Charters: What's in the newsgroups (and gated mailing lists):
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- comp.unix.sco.announce (Moderated by Ed Hew <edhew@xenitec.on.ca>)
- Product, service, and business announcements of reasonable interest
- to the SCO community of developers, distributors, resellers,
- consultants, administrators and end-users, submitted by:
- - SCO,
- - third party software and hardware developers, SCO-specific
- service providers, and authors of freely available software.
- This explicitly includes SCO supplement information (SLS, TLS, EFS, etc.)
- Blatant and/or irrelevant commercial "ads" will continue to be rejected.
- Articles should be emailed to the moderator at: scoannmod@xenitec.on.ca
-
- comp.unix.sco.misc
- Questions, answers, comments and discussion about past, present and
- future SCO and related third party products and services, not more
- specifically covered by one of the other newsgroups, including but
- not limited to:
- - SCO UNIX operating system,
- - networking products (TCP/IP, NFS, LAN Manager, IPX/SPX, DCE, OSI),
- - graphical products (X server and clients),
- - DOS Merge,
- - The Open Desktop and Open Server operating environments which
- incorporate most of the above components.
- - SCO's older applications, when running on SCO UNIX.
- - SCO's support and other policies.
- - Third party hardware, software and services.
- - SCO environment specific "help wanted" postings.
- Commercial advertisements are explicitly forbidden.
-
- comp.unix.sco.programmer
- Questions, answers, comments and discussion about past, present and
- future SCO development system products and related software and issues,
- including but not limited to:
- - UNIX and Open Desktop development systems,
- - SCO Visual TCL.
- - DCE developers toolkit,
- - Device Driver Writer's toolkit/Advanced Hardware Developer Kit
- - Public domain, shareware, and third party development tools
- of use in SCO operating environments.
- - SCO software distribution mastering toolkits
- - API questions, compiler behavior, header files, libraries,
- binary formats, manifest defines, etc.
- - Porting.
- Commercial advertisements are explicitly forbidden.
-
- comp.unix.unixware.announce: (obsolete)
- (Moderated by Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org>)
- [The creator and moderator of comp.unix.unixware.announce advises
- that it is now redundant and has suggested its formal removal given
- that pertinent announcements are posted to comp.unix.sco.announce.]
-
- comp.unix.unixware.misc
- This is a general-purpose forum for discussion about products of
- Novells Unix Systems Group, primarily its implementation of Unix
- for PC-architecture systems sold under the name UnixWare.
- Appropriate product and service announcements should now be sent
- to comp.unix.sco.announce.
- [SCO acquired the UnixWare product line from Novell in 1995.]
-
- comp.unix.xenix.sco
- The canonical charter is: XENIX versions from the Santa Cruz Operation.
- The original full charter is unavailable. Anyone with a copy of the
- original charter, RFD or CFV is encouraged to send it to me.
-
- Full SCO newsgroup archives for comp.unix.sco.* and their biz.sco.*
- precursors live under URL: ftp://ftp.xenitec.on.ca/pub/news/
- ___________
-
- The undersigned has historically facilitated the evolution of the SCO
- newsgroup namespace. Suggestions for additional SCO newsgroups and/or
- mailing lists should be emailed to the address below.
- --
- Ed Hew <edhew@xenitec.on.ca> http://www.xenitec.on.ca
- SCO newsgroup godfather ; CA Domain Registry: http://www.registry.ca
- XeniTec Consulting Services && Standard International Training Centers
- comp.unix.sco.announce moderator: some FAQs, USENET biz authority, etc.
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