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- Frequently Asked Questions about Satanism
- by Matt G. Paradise [reformatted by nocTifer]
-
- Since I've become a Grotto Master for the Church of Satan,
- one of my appointed capacities is that of media representative.
- Since then, I've been answering more questions than ever,
- as well as doing this publication, a component in my representation
- of Satanism. I'd like to approach some of the more popular
- (and maybe not as popular) questions that I've run into, put them
- on paper, and save myself some repeated breath.
-
- Questions marked with [X] are taken from part one of an interview
- I did with a publication called The Black Virgin Mary Coloring
- Book and [the rest] are 1996 BVMCB, used with kind permission.
- (Some of these questions and responses have been edited for space
- conservation and for the sake of not being redundant.)
-
- ===================================================================
-
- (X) Question: "What is the difference between Satanism and devil
- worship?"
-
- "Satanism and devil worship are two distinctly different animals.
- Devil worship is what it is: the worship of an external deity,
- much as it could be labeled inverse Xtianity. The Satan in
- Satanism is an archetype, one many know by name and is relative
- to the culture. Some Satanists choose different aspects of this
- archetype, depending on geography or just plain aesthetics,
- but the same characteristics still hold true. It would make
- little sense for us to claim to embody the archetypal qualities
- of Satan (rebellion, rational self-interest, carnality, etc.)
- on one hand, and then attempt to worship an anthropomorphic
- Satan on the other. Devil worshipers need to be subjugated,
- ask for it by their own actions. The Satanist finds such
- unproductive and one-sided activities to be draining and
- useless (not to mention hypocritical). Much of this is aptly
- mentioned in The Satanic Bible and the other books I've listed
- at this publication's end."
-
-
- (X) Question: "Do you find most of the membership of the CoS to be
- 'Xtian refugees' or do they come from all sorts of
- backgrounds?"
-
- "Surely, I couldn't speak for all Satanists, but I would assume
- that many, particularly older Satanists who grew up in an era
- when Xtianity was taken a bit more seriously, had some sort of
- Xtian indoctrination in their childhoods.
-
- Oftentimes, teens will approach Satanism as a reaction to their
- growing disdain for Xtianity, and I think that's an honest and
- healthy step, speaking from experience. However, once a Satanist
- (a true Satanist, and not some drugged-out devil-worshiping
- metalhead with a penchant for feline slaughter) grows up a bit
- and experiences some of the outside world, Satanism becomes a
- lot more than a game of shock-the-sheep and the Satanist applies
- himself/herself to attain goals and engage in meaningful pursuits.
- I wouldn't use the phrase "Xtian refugees" to describe the
- situation mentioned above, simply because there is an implied
- idea of victimization riding shotgun with it, and victim is a
- label no Satanist cares to wear - mainly because it's
- unproductive as well as being antithetical to pure Satanic
- philosophy."
-
-
- Statement: "Anton LaVey is merely ripping off Nietzsche."
-
- "When LaVey refers to an idea, concept, or quote derived or
- taken from someone else, he often cites the author, either in
- the paragraph or in the indexes of his books. If anything LaVey
- writes seems similar to past concepts, oftentimes, it is
- augmented with modern circumstances, his own thoughts, and is
- analogous to our philosophy. Seeing that Satanism is a work
- in progress, something like science meets philosophy, we are
- fully justified in choosing the concepts of old, working with
- them in our context and taking them into the future. (If we
- didn't, who else would?) Same thing scientists, doctors,
- psychologists, and many other professionals do. Nothing would
- get done if individuals merely went along with established
- thought and never added to it. It's evolution, pure and simple."
-
-
- Statement: "The Church of Satan charges application fees for
- membership and further involvement and accepts
- money from people. Sounds like your garden-variety
- tent-show evangelist scam."
-
- "First off, you are probably confusing two different terms.
- The Church of Satan is an organization. Satanism is a religion.
- Since we are one of the few (if not, one of the ONLY) religions
- whose organized body REJECTS the tax exempt status other
- religions cling to, the CoS accepts money to keep it moving,
- and we pay BACK into the economic system. ("Responsibility to
- the responsible.") Also, there seem to be a couple presuppositions
- hiding under your statement. The first is that we should feel
- "bad" or "humble" about money. Why? We are Satanists. Most of us
- appreciate success in one form or another and, in business, we
- know that money often enough helps this along. We lay our cards
- on the table and have no problem with it. If a credible Satanist
- pays into the CoS, he or she does this in support, and does it
- knowingly because he or she is wise, like all good Satanists are.
- If your average ignoramus throws money at the CoS, the
- organization is happy to take that, too. But, it is the idiot,
- not the CoS, who should be held responsible because, quite frankly,
- we didn't rush up to his house with Uzis, drag him to the ATM,
- and make him empty out his account for us. You don't even have
- to be a member of the CoS to be a Satanist, so no money is
- required, unlike that required by others for tithes, collection
- plates, and holy corn meal. (The monetary fee, by extension,
- also keeps out most of the trend chasers, the occultniks, and the
- terrorists. We don't want them and we won't put up with them.)
-
- The second presupposition lies in your penchant for equating us
- with the model of religion which Xtianity ostensibly portrays.
- It has been adequately stated and PROVEN that Satanism is not
- inverse Xtianity. It's an old point. Tell the Judeo-Xtian
- churches to pay THEIR taxes and see what they say. The
- differences are enormous."
-
-
- Question: "Why do many Satanists wear black?"
-
- "I'm glad you said 'many' instead of 'all,' because the latter
- simply isn't true. It is true that I prefer the color black in
- my wardrobe choice, although other Satanists will have their
- own personal reasons for their personal choices. (Sound like
- real life to anyone?) It is a choice. I find it pleasing,
- uniform, and void of so many of the popular culture icons
- the herd adorn themselves with. The only thing that my personal
- choice of the color has to do with my Satanic self involves
- those three things mentioned in the previous sentence. For me,
- it also means that I don't have to waste mental energy and
- valuable time striving to match everything, because I'd rather
- use that time for more useful and productive activities. It's
- a cultivated look with many personal advantages too numerous
- to completely name. Does this really bother you so much?"
-
-
- (X) Question: "There is a mistrust in mankind's ability to govern
- himself that a lot of faiths have. There are a lot
- of disapproving parental gods. Why should humans
- have the choice to do what they want? Can Man be
- trusted? Were humans ever meant to be free and
- free-willed?"
-
- "I don't think it's a question of whether or not humans should
- have a choice to do what they want because if a human being
- really and truly wishes to commit an action, no matter how
- atrocious or morally-incorrect, the deed is done and that's
- that. There's a strong reality that every human is a
- potential menace; obviously, that's why we have police,
- courts, and prisons. Man as a collective unit cannot be
- trusted as each person is subject to individual assessment.
- In a related sense, Satanists tend to live a very pragmatic
- life, leaving moralism to those weak souls who are, quite
- honestly, better off being chained down to an oppressive dogma
- and not getting in everyone else's hair. (Of course, this
- point only accounts for the innocuous follower types and not
- the abortion clinic bombers and other members of the lunatic
- fringe.) I truly feel that some people really crave slavery,
- and they profoundly need it, practically beg for it in the
- guise of a god, a drug, a bad relationship, etc; and others
- live their lives in search of true personal freedom and
- intellectual advancement, many of whom are Satanists."
-
-
- Statement: "I don't agree with your philosophies, therefore,
- I will condemn your religion."
-
- "Go ahead. It's your ignorant prerogative. But, it does seem
- to me that, by stating that, you really can't deal with what
- other people do unless you can get involved in it. If you are
- such a herd-dependent and weak individual, you would
- undoubtedly make a ridiculous excuse for a Satanist. I can't
- give you anything to fill the void in your life, and neither
- can Satanism. If you are sour on life, don't blame it on me
- or my religion. Why do you pay so much attention to Satanism
- if you don't care? Because, for some unwarranted reason,
- you've convinced yourself that you do. What a waste of
- good emotion."
-
-
- (X) Question: "I cannot anticipate what would be clear and unclear
- to most regarding the 'Eleven Satanic Rules of the
- Earth,' so I will ask you to clarify some things for
- me personally. In #5, what is the Mating Signal?
- How do you give it and know it was given? Does 'she
- said no, but I know what she really meant' ever
- arise as a problem in defining it? Does the CoS have
- clear-cut stances on casual sex, monogamy,
- contraception and abortion?"
-
- "Well, considering that you and I are two distinctly different
- human beings, what works for me might not work for you. In
- other words, the definition of the mating signal will vary
- according to combination of participants, situation, and other
- subjective criteria. Depending on these, the mating signal may
- be repeated "sexy" looks thrown your way, or it might have to
- be the other person literally saying, "Hey, would you like to
- fuck?" The proof's in the pudding, to be cliche and, yes, when
- someone says "no," they generally mean it. There are no instant
- cure-all answers in Satanism, our very philosophy harshly
- discourages such non-thought and what I would call "the easy way
- out" as an excuse, but with awareness and reason, we fare pretty
- damn well for ourselves. As for the CoS having policies on
- casual sex, monogamy, etc, those aforementioned are all choices,
- open to each individual Satanist. The Eleven Satanic Rules of the
- Earth, although aptly beneficial for non-Satanists to heed, were
- scripted for a Satanic audience, one that has the whole context
- in mind."
-
-
- Statement: "I tried Satanism, but it did nothing for me."
-
- "And, I suspect that you believe that a model airplane builds
- itself. Satanism didn't disappoint you, you disappointed
- yourself and can't face the blame you deserve. You don't
- improve your Satanism, you improve yourself. That's the
- giant point you missed through all of that hard searching
- for easy answers in a book. Why not go back to Xtianity.
- They'll tell you what to do with your life and you won't
- even have to think."
-
-
- (X) Question: "Regarding the 10th Satanic Rule of the Earth,
- how does the CoS feel about mass market killing
- (the meat industry). These people are not
- killing for their food, there is always a
- wasted surplus. Are they breaking this rule?
-
- Today in this country we will obviously not
- starve if we don't "bring down the buffalo,"
- so should people continue to kill animals
- for this purpose?"
-
- "Satanists feel that the killing of an animal, outside of
- self-defense or the need for food, is grossly irresponsible.
- Many Satanists I know are avid animal lovers, including
- myself and Anton LaVey and, in most cases, we find our pets
- to be infinitely more interesting and vital beings than
- most of the human mess around us. The reality is that nature
- has assigned different animals to serve different purposes:
- cats and dogs don't have enough meat, probably taste pretty
- bad, and function better alive than dead as companions,
- security, hunting partners, etc; as opposed to cows, sheep
- and the like, who are generally herd animals, have no natural
- defense and little if any independent thinking skills, taste
- good, and are considered cattle by their physical and mental
- realities. (Otherwise, they wouldn't be the preferred menu
- choice for the other beasts of the fields.) Obviously, meat
- is a staple food, so the killing of animals for this purpose
- is inherently no different than what happens in nature,
- although the procedure seems sanitized in people's eyes
- because it's done behind closed doors; killing by proxy, if
- you will. I do agree that the methods employed are a bit cruel
- and unnecessary and, if a more considerate method could take
- its place, I'd certainly be in favor of it. As for wasted
- surplus, the responsibility lies on the shoulders of the meat
- industry and, perhaps, calls for some regulatory legislation."
-
-
- Statement: "I really want to join the Church of Satan...
- I mean, A LOT! I want to be a Priest and be one
- of you. I want magical powers and a direct
- phone-line to Satan."
-
- "Go away."
-
-
- Question: "To apply the name of Satan to this church, implies
- a connection to the Bible. What is the stance of
- the CoS on these popular tales and predictions?
- Who is Christ to the CoS?"
-
- "We take the name Satan in concept only. Any other connection
- is thrust upon us by anxious, ignorant, and/or misinformed
- people. The archetype itself, by whatever name is appropriate,
- is far older than Xtianity or Judaism, and it was these
- religions that, in order to gain a foothold in the world,
- decided to destroy and bastardize the "pagan gods." Satan has
- generally been the character who has challenged sterile thought,
- encouraged indulgence, rebelled against slavery, and truly
- represented human nature and all that the mundane world offers.
- By extension, instead of worshiping Satan, we emulate him. The
- Xtian bible was probably one of the greatest pieces of propaganda
- (with Mein Kampf running a close second) in world history but,
- quite frankly, a scientifically, philosophically, and
- technologically advanced civilization should logically cease to
- have a need for such outmoded parables and slave ethics. But,
- seeing as insecurity never goes out of style, those in need seek
- their babysitters in whatever avenue is acceptable; in LaVey's
- words, a "privileged lie." Many Satanists also view the Xtian
- bible as examples of mankind's hypocrisy, incompetence, and
- spinelessness. Jesus Christ is the paradigm for these qualities.
- How can anyone with human insight and reasonable logic skills
- accept the phrase "the meek shall inherit the Earth" without
- laughing? History certainly doesn't support this assertion.
-
- From my experience, many people who call themselves Xtians are
- so merely by convenience and not so much by a rational decision,
- if rationale is possible. It's a truly insecure philosophy that
- demands its tenets to be installed in humans from early
- childhood, because if it was introduced for the first time to
- adults, many would raise their eyebrow in suspicion and disgust.
- Many Xtians I've met haven't even read their bible (at least, not
- critically), but keep the book on their coffee table to appear
- "righteous." And, some just skip the sanguine parts. Many of them
- really seem to get off on their religion, the self-righteousness
- feeds their impoverished egos. As trivial as it seems, it's a
- glaring metaphor for Xtianity in general, an amass of
- contradictions, and almost Freudian."
-
-
- Question: "As a representative for Satanism, you do interviews
- and lectures. Isn't this preaching? And, doesn't this
- violate your rule of not giving your opinions unless
- asked?"
-
- "Of course this isn't preaching and it doesn't go against the
- First Satanic Rule of the Earth. If you open a magazine, turn
- on your radio, or click on your television and see an interview
- with a Satanist, you've reached a point where you will either
- not read or look at it, or you will. If you choose the latter,
- you have consigned yourself to the information and, by your
- own actions, have given your non-verbal consent to receive such
- information about our religion. If you attend a lecture, you
- have even more so welcomed yourself to our "opinions." No one
- coerced you to attend or read or watch or listen. Assuming
- that Satanism can be preached is to assume that anyone can be a
- Satanist, which is grossly false. We know this and wouldn't
- bother proselytizing like other religions. It would waste our
- time and we'd have to care, which we don't."
-
-
- Question: "Regarding the 11th Satanic Rule of the Earth,
- please define "destroy." It is a very strong word
- to misplace. Does this mean to literally "kill?"
- For example if a woman overcomes a man who is
- trying to rape her, will she break this rule if
- she does not kill him?"
-
- "Killing isn't the only way to destroy an assailant or enemy.
- You can humiliate the person, get them fired, etc, ad
- infinitum, depending on your capacity for sadism. To say that
- Satanism tells a person to kill is ridiculous, and merely
- offers a human being yet another scapegoat for his actions,
- a very un-Satanic behavior. If a person chooses to murder
- another human being, he or she must be prepared to deal with
- the consequences, and not complain about them once they come
- down (i.e., the 8th Satanic Rule of the Earth). To me, killing
- an enemy would be boring and ineffective, unless it was in
- self-defense. It is far more satisfying and appropriate to
- keep them alive and suffering."
-
- EOF
-