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- From: jeffreyh@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman)
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- Subject: Guide to the rec.radio Newsgroups
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- Date: 9 Nov 2001 06:18:17 GMT
- Organization: University of Hawaii
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- Summary: This article provides an overview of the newsgroups devoted
- to the personal radio services (amateur and CB), describes
- each newsgroup and its charter, and gives a brief tutorial
- on netiquette.
- Keywords: faq radio amateur ham cb netiquette
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.info
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
- X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
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- Archive-name: radio/personal-intro
-
- This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb,
- rec.radio.info, and rec.radio.swap newsgroups, as well as their Internet
- mailing list counterparts and complements. It is intended to serve as a
- guide for the new reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may
- be directed to Jeffrey Herman, KH6O, jeffreyh@hawaii.edu, or Paul Schleck,
- K3FU, pschleck@novia.net.
-
- This message was last changed on 14 March, 1998.
-
- History
- =======
-
- Way back when, before there was a Usenet, the Internet hosted a mailing
- list for hams, called (appropriately enough) INFO-HAMS. Ham radio
- discussions were held on the mailing list, and sent to the mailboxes of
- those who had signed up for it. When the Usenet software was created, and
- net news as we now know it was developed, a newsgroup was created for
- hams: net.ham-radio. The mailing list and the newsgroup were gatewayed
- together, eventually.
-
- Over the years, as the net grew, the volume of discussion became
- progressively higher. First one by one, and then as part of two
- reorganizations, what was once one group became many. In the process,
- developments elsewhere on the net were reflected in the groups as they
- were created, most notably the change to place all of the ham radio groups
- in one hierarchy.
-
- The collection of newsgroups continues to grow as more people join the
- net, and as more topics of discussion gain volume, I expect to see more
- groups be created as well. This follows what is happening on the rest of
- the net.
-
- Nearly all of the radio newsgroups have corresponding mailing lists, the
- notable exception being rec.radio.swap. There are also a few mailing lists
- that don't have newsgroups.
-
- The Current Groups
- ==================
-
- It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them,
- and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different
- newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing,
- don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read
- about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette.
-
- The rec.radio.amateur.misc group is the catchall. It is what rec.ham-radio
- was renamed to during the first major reorganization. Any amateur radio-
- related message that's not more appropriate in one of the other groups
- belongs here, from contesting to DX to ragchewing on VHF to information on
- becoming a ham.
-
- The group rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc is for discussions related to
- (surprise!) digital amateur radio. This doesn't have to be the common
- two-meter AX.25 variety of packet radio, either; some of the most
- knowledgeable folks in radio digital communications can be found here, and
- anything in the general area is welcome. The name was changed to emphasize
- this, and to encourage discussion not only of other text-based digital
- modes, such as AMTOR, RTTY, and Clover, but things like digital voice and
- video as well. The former group, rec.radio.amateur.packet, was removed on
- September 21st, 1993. It is obsolete, and you should use .digital.misc
- instead (or the appropriate new mailing list, mentioned below). The group
- has .misc as part of the name to allow further specialization if the users
- wish it, such as .digital.tcp-ip.
-
- The swap group is rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became
- evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap
- ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you
- have radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be
- interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here
- too. Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to
- discuss a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to
- do it, and the other groups, especially .equipment and .homebrew, are the
- place for public discussions. There is now a regular posting with
- information on how to go about buying and selling items in rec.radio.swap;
- please refer to it before you post there. To answer a frequently asked
- question: No, there is no mailing list that goes along with this group. If
- you can't read Usenet news directly, you're out of luck.
-
- The group rec.radio.amateur.policy was created as a place for all the
- discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules,
- regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both
- existing and proposed. Recent changes to the Amateur Radio Rules (FCC
- Part 97) have finally laid to rest the Great Usenet Pizza Autopatch Debate
- - it's now legal to order a pizza on the autopatch, if you're not in the
- pizza business - as well as complaints about now-preempted local scanner
- laws hostile to amateurs, but plenty of discussion about what a bunch of
- rotten no-goodniks the local frequency coordinating body is, as well as
- the neverending no-code debate, may still be found here.
-
- The group rec.radio.cb is the place for all discussion about the Citizens'
- Band radio service. Such discussions have been very inflammatory in
- rec.ham-radio in the past; please do not cross-post to both rec.radio.cb
- and rec.radio.amateur.* unless the topic is genuinely of interest to both
- hams and CBers - and very few topics are.
-
- The rec.radio.info group is just what its name implies: it's the place
- where informational messages from across rec.radio.* may be found,
- regardless of where else they're posted. As of this writing, information
- posted to the group includes Cary Oler's daily solar progagation
- bulletins, ARRL bulletins, the Frequently Asked Questions files for the
- various groups, and radio modification instructions. This group is
- moderated, so you cannot post to it directly; if you try, even if your
- message is crossposted to one of the other groups, your message will be
- mailed to the moderator, who is currently David Dodell, WB7TPY. The email
- address for submissions to the group is
- rec.radio.info-moderator@primenet.com. Inquires and other adminis- trivia
- should be directed to rec.radio.info-request@primenet.com. For more
- information about rec.radio.info, consult the introduction and posting
- guidelines that are regularly posted to that newsgroup.
-
- The groups r.r.amateur.antenna, .boatanchors, .dx, .equipment, .homebrew,
- and .space are for more specialized areas of ham radio: discussions about
- antennas, the older tube based amateur, military, and commercial gear,
- commercially-made equipment, homebrewing, and amateur radio space
- operations. The .equipment group is NOT the place for buying or selling
- equipment; that's what rec.radio.swap is for. Similarly, the .space group
- is specifically about amateur radio in space, such as the OSCAR program
- and SAREX, the Shuttle Amateur Radio EXperiment; other groups cover other
- aspects of satellites and space. Homebrewing isn't about making your own
- alcoholic beverages at home (that's rec.crafts.brewing), but rather
- construction of radio and electronic equipment by the amateur
- experimenter. The .dx group is devoted to long distance amateur
- communications. Each of these subgroups has its own charter and FAQ;
- please refer to the archives to find these documents.
-
- Except for rec.radio.swap and rec.radio.cb, all of these newsgroups are
- available by Internet electronic mail in digest format; send a mail
- message containing "help" on a line by itself to listserv@ucsd.edu for
- instructions on how to use the mail server.
-
- All of the groups can be posted to by electronic mail, though, by using a
- gateway at the University of Texas at Austin. To post a message this way,
- change the name of the group you wish to post to by replacing all of the
- '.'s with '-'s - for example, rec.radio.swap becomes rec-radio-swap - and
- send to that name@cs.utexas.edu (rec-radio-swap@cs.utexas.edu, for
- example). You may crosspost by including multiple addresses as Cc: entries
- (but see below). This gateway's continued availability is at the pleasure
- of the admins at UT-Austin, and is subject to going away at any time - and
- especially if forgeries and other net.abuses become a problem. You have
- been warned.
-
- Mailing Lists
- =============
-
- In addition to the mailing lists that mirror the Usenet newsgroups, there
- also are a few that stand alone. These cover specific areas of ham radio,
- and discussion is focused on just those areas. PLEASE BE SURE TO SAVE THE
- WELCOME MESSAGE YOU RECEIVE AFTER SUBSCRIBING -- IT WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT
- INFO REGARDING UNSUBSCRIBING!
-
- The cq-contest mailing list is for discussions of contesting in ham radio.
- To join, send an email to cq-contesting-request@contesting.com.
-
- The DX mailing list covers the finer points of DXing. This one is also
- joined by mailing "subscribe" on a line by itself, this time to
- dx-request@unbc.edu.
-
- There's also a VHF mailing list, for VHF operators of the weak signal
- persuasion. You can join this one be sending "subscribe vhf" on a line by
- itself to vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu.
-
- The QRP-L list is devoted to building and operating gear at low-power
- outputs. To subscribe, send an email to listproc@lehigh.edu and only
- write: subscribe qrp-l Your Name.
-
- The TopBand e-list is devoted to all areas of operation on 160m. To
- subscribe, send an email to majordomo@contesting.com and only write:
- subscribe topband and follow the instructions you'll be sent. This site,
- contesting.com, also hosts a couple dozen other ham-related e-lists. Use
- the above address, and only write: lists to get the entire index.
-
- The Boatanchors e-list is devoted to the older tube-based ham, military,
- and commercial communications gear. To subscribe, send an email to:
- listserv@listserv.tempe.gov and only write: subscribe boatanchors
-
- For homebuilding transmitters and receivers using tube technology,
- there is the Glowbugs e-list; send an email to:
- majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu and only write:
- subscribe glowbugs <your@address.here>
-
- The VHF DX discussion list can be accessed by sending an email
- to: majordomo@blacksheep.org and only writing: subscribe VHF-DX-discuss.
-
- We now have a list devoted to amateur radio history. To subscribe,
- send an email to: ham-radio-history-subscribe@egroups.com - leave
- the body of the message blank.
-
- Qth.net hosts over 100 ham-related e-lists, including lists devoted
- to each state, manufacturer, mode, band - too many to state here. Send
- an email to majordomo@qth.net and only write: lists to get the
- complete index.
-
- For one of the most complete indexes of email lists, see the excellent
- web site http://pw2.netcom.com/~ac6v/pageae.html
-
- Please do NOT send subscription requests to the mailing lists themselves;
- that doesn't work very often, and is very annoying to those on the list.
- Also, please keep your electronic mail address current with any mailing
- lists you subscribe to, as dealing with returned email is a nuisance for the
- person maintaining the mailing list.
-
- A Few Words on Crossposting
- ===========================
-
- Please do not crosspost messages to two or more groups unless there is genuine
- interest in both groups in the topic being discussed, and when you do, please
- include a header line of the form "Followup-To: group.name" in your article's
- headers (before the first blank line). This will cause followups to your
- article to go to the group listed in the Followup-To: line. If you wish
- to have replies to go to you by email, rather than be posted, use the word
- "poster" instead of the name of a group. Such a line appears in the headers
- of this article.
-
- One of the few examples of productive cross-posting is with the rec.radio.info
- newsgroup. To provide a filtered presentation of information articles, while
- still maintaining visibility in their home newsgroups, the moderator strongly
- encourages cross-posting. All information articles should be submitted to the
- rec.radio.info moderator so that he may simultaneously cross-post your
- information to the appropriate newsgroups. Most newsreaders will only present
- the article once, and network bandwidth is conserved since only one article is
- propagated. If you make regular informational postings, and have made
- arrangements with the moderator to post directly to the group, please
- cross-post as appropriate.
-
- --
- Jeffrey Herman, KH6O
-
-
- --
- Telecommunication Specialist Mathematics Lecturer
- U.S. Coast Guard University of Hawaii System
- jherman @ d14.uscg.mil jeffreyh @ hawaii.edu
-