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- Subject: Usenet Personals: Advice for Straights FAQ (1/3)
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- Summary: This three-part posting contains a list of Frequently Asked
- Questions by users of Usenet personal ads. Its primary target
- is the alt.personals.* newsgroup hierarchy, but it is appropriate
- to any Usenet personals groups. It is intended primarily for
- "straights," i.e. heterosexuals, and is written primarily from the
- male point of view, but others may benefit.
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- THE STRAIGHT FAQ: One straight male's thoughts and advice on successful use of
- Usenet personals.
-
- by Dean Esmay
-
- First edition: 23 April 1995
- Fifteenth edition: 17 December 1997
-
- A World Wide Web-based version of this document can be found at
- http://www.syndicomm.com/straight-faq.html for easier reading.
-
- This entire document is Copyright 1995 and 1996 by Dean Esmay.
- Permission is hereby granted to make and distribute verbatim copies
- of this document provided the copyright notice and this permission
- notice are preserved on all copies, and that all copies are reprinted
- in full and without modification. To discuss permission for other
- forms of copying or reprinting, please write to esmay@syndicomm.com.
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- PART I OF III
-
- I first began using online personal ads, mostly on the Usenet, back in
- early January '95. I had just a few months earlier ended a
- devastating relationship with a very nasty person, and I thought I
- would try this as a new way of meeting people. I made a number of
- mistakes, and had a lot of experiences good and bad. I've also traded
- mail or talked to a lot of other people who used this method of
- meeting others. I also noticed how certain questions (most
- especially, "Do any women use this news group?") got asked over and
- over and over again in the alt.personals group.
-
- In the hopes of helping others find happiness, and to help cut down
- on all the noise and nay-saying, this list of answers to Frequently
- Asked Questions was born, and dubbed "The Straight FAQ" because its
- primary emphasis, especially in the earliest versions, was on
- answering those questions that seemed to be most often asked by
- straights.
-
- Though this FAQ is mostly for heterosexuals, there's also a version
- available for gay people, written by Fred Young; if you're gay, you may
- want to stop here and go look for The Not-So-Straight FAQ instead.
-
- Any suggestions, criticisms, comments, questions, or proposed
- additions on this FAQ should be sent to me via e-mail at
- esmay@syndicomm.com.
-
- So anyway, let's get started, shall we?
-
- -=-=-=-=-
-
- Q: WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE WOMEN?!?!?
-
- A: They're here, they're here! You just can't see them!
-
- Seriously, there are a whole LOT of women using Usenet personals.
- You just don't hear much from them. Here's what's really going on:
-
- Right now, there are a whole lot more men than women online. The last
- I personally heard, the number just for the U.S.A. was something like
- four men for every one woman, at least on the commercial services.
- AOL's current statistics currently say that about 78% of their users
- are male. Other published figures claim that only 10% of all internet
- users are women (Article: _A Woman's Place? in Cyberspace_ by Kris
- Jensen, Atlanta Journal Constitution, January 8, 1995). On the other
- hand, Nielson Media Research announced in 1995 that 66% of internet
- users are male, but that these males account for 77% of internet
- usage (http://www.commerce.net/), while in January of 1996, Emerging
- Technologies Research Group said that 39% of those accessing the
- internet are female, but that men are much more likely to use things
- like Usenet and the World Wide Web--but with twice as many women as
- men saying they plan on trying things like the Web in the future
- (http://etrg.findsvp.com/features/newinet.html).
-
- How accurate these or any other numbers are, or how exactly they can
- be applied to users of personal ads I cannot say. But clearly, there
- are significantly more men hanging out online than women right now.
-
- Compounding this aggravation seems to be that, for whatever reason,
- women tend to be less comfortable posting ads than responding to
- them. There are many theories as to why this is, and you can pick
- any or all that appeal to you. Whatever your favorite explanation,
- the fact still remains that for the most part, men post, and women
- respond.
-
- But make no mistake: despite all this, there are still an awful lot
- of women out there. No question about it.
-
-
- Q: OKAY, BUT I'M A WOMAN, AND I WANT TO POST AN AD ANYWAY!
-
- A: Please do! Posting an ad can be a really good idea for a woman.
- You'll probably get lots of responses. But there is a pitfall there:
- because there are so many more men, and men are more used to
- approaching women than vice-versa, you may be deluged with responses.
-
- I'll have some advice for women on how to post an effective ad later
- in this FAQ, but rest assured, no matter who you are, what your age,
- what you look like, or what you do, if you are female and you post an
- ad, you almost certainly WILL GET RESPONSES. Your only problem will
- be getting responses that you actually want.
-
-
- Q: DOES ANYONE EVER MEET ANYONE FROM HERE? IS THIS FOR REAL OR WHAT?
-
- A: In January '95, when I posted my first ad, I received several
- responses, and within a couple of weeks I met a beautiful woman who
- was my lover for about six weeks. We're still friends. After the
- romantic part of that relationship ended, I started re-posting my ad
- every two weeks or so. During that time, I had email correspondence
- with dozens of women, talked on the phone with ten or fifteen, and
- had actual face-to-face encounters with a grand total of seven. In
- May, a girl named Rosemary Kondraciuk (rose@syndicomm.com) answered
- my ad, and shortly thereafter I went off the market again.
-
- On August 1, 1995 I asked Rosemary Kondraciuk to marry me, and
- she agreed. We were married on 15 December, 1995.
-
- My long-term goal was to find a lifelong partner, though I suspected
- I'd never find the one who was right for me. But in any case, in the
- short term I was happy just to meet and get to know new women, and
- this method worked very well; between January and July I had dates
- with about eleven women, four of whom I met through traditional
- methods (chance encounters, friends, bars) and about seven who I met
- online. The women online were always interesting because you could so
- quickly find things you had in common. And now, even though I would
- have been content to stay single, instead I've found my bride.
-
- So yes, it really does happen, and it's not that tough. I'm not rich,
- I'm not a bodybuilder, and I don't have Mel Gibson's looks, yet I've
- met some terrific women this way. And I know I'm not alone, because
- I've heard success stories from all sorts of other folks. Yes, it
- DOES HAPPEN, and much of this FAQ is devoted to helping you figure
- out how to make it happen FOR YOU.
-
-
- Q: WHAT'S WITH ALL THE ADS FOR SEX? IS THAT ALL ANYONE IS LOOKING
- FOR?
-
- A: Some people post ads looking for sex, extra-marital affairs, or
- pornographic email. If that's what you're looking for, that's your
- business, but I have no advice for you other than "be careful."
- However, the fact is that there are TONS of people who are looking
- for much more than that. It is for those of us who are looking for
- something more meaningful that this FAQ is dedicated. Don't let all
- the sex ads fool you; such people aren't really the majority, though
- sometimes it may appear that way.
-
-
- Q: ARE ALL THE WOMEN WHO USE ONLINE PERSONALS DESPERATE, UNATTRACTIVE,
- PSYCHOTIC, OR NERDS?
-
- A: From personal experience, I can give you a definite "no" to this
- one.
-
- There are many reasons for a woman to use Usenet personals. It may be
- that she can't meet guys any other way. But it may also be that
- she's really gorgeous and wants a chance to meet a guy who'll get to
- know her BEFORE finding out what she looks like. It may be that
- she's just shy. It may be that she has a busy career and has no
- other good way of meeting people. It may be that she's got kids and
- doesn't have much chance to get out. It may be that she is highly
- intelligent and has a hard time finding intelligent men in her
- everyday life. It may be that she's stuck in the middle of nowhere
- with few men around. Maybe she's just trying this for the fun of it.
- Or maybe she just likes computers.
-
- There are many good reasons to use personals ads. There's nothing at
- all weird about a woman doing something like this.
-
-
- Q: ARE ALL THE MEN WHO USE ONLINE PERSONALS DESPERATE, UNATTRACTIVE, PSYCHOTIC,
- OR NERDS?
-
- A: From personal experience I can't say too much, since I'm the only
- guy I know who has done this regularly. I don't THINK I am any of the
- above though.
-
- For example, how many "nerds" or "losers" do you know who practice
- karate, skydive, ride horses, and own their own businesses?
-
- As for "desperate," well there have been times when I've been
- desperate for company, but I've had a number of lovers in my
- lifetime. I've even turned down women who wanted to be with me. I'm
- a little shy but I've usually done okay.
-
- There are many reasons for a guy to use personal ads. It may be that
- he can't meet girls any other way. But it may also be that he's
- really gorgeous and wants a chance to meet a woman who'll get to know
- him BEFORE finding out what he looks like. It may be that he's shy.
- It may be that he has a busy career and has no other good way of
- meeting people. It may be that he's got kids and doesn't have much
- chance to get out. It may be that he has a hard time finding
- intelligent women in his everyday life. Or it may be that he's just
- trying something like this just for the hell of it, to see what
- happens.
-
- Basically, there are many good reasons to use personals ads. There's
- nothing at all weird about a man using something like this. It's
- just one more way of meeting people, and a pretty good one if you do
- things right!
-
-
- Q: OKAY, YOU SAY THERE ARE LOTS MORE MEN THAN WOMEN. THAT'S GREAT IF
- YOU'RE A WOMAN, BUT WHAT IF YOU'RE A MAN? ARE YOU SCREWED OR WHAT?
-
- A: Absolutely not. You DO have a challenge here, but it's not hard
- to overcome if you're intelligent and put a little effort into it.
- More on that later.
-
-
- Q: WHAT DO ALL THESE DAMNED ABBREVIATIONS LIKE "ISO" AND "SWM" AND
- "G*M" and "SWCF" MEAN?
-
- A: Not everyone uses these abbreviations, but, they are a common
- shorthand for indicating marital status, race, sex, religion, and a
- few other common things. The most prominently used ones include:
-
- S = Single
- D = Divorced
- M = Married (rare)
- W = Widowed (rare)
-
- J = Jewish
- C = Christian
-
- W = White
- B = Black
- A = Asian (oriental)
- H = Hispanic
-
- M = Male
- F = Female
-
- G = Gay
- Bi = Bisexual
- Bi-Curious - Someone curious about bisexuality and thinking about
- giving it a try.
-
- * = Any
-
- The positioning works as follows: First marital status, then religion
- (if any given), then race, then sex. Usually what you get is three,
- such as:
-
- SWM - "Single White Male."
- SWF - "Single White Female."
-
- An M or a W are, VERY RARELY, used to indicate marital status. In
- this case they are always in the first position:
-
- MHM - Married Hispanic Male
- WWF - Widowed White Female
-
- Religious affiliation is fairly rare, but when you do see it, it
- usually comes just before or after racial type, such as:
-
- SCWF - Single Christian White Female
- SWCF - Single White Christian Female
-
- For whatever reason, Judaism and Christianity are the only religions
- commonly abbreviated at this time; if you're of another religion, I
- suggest not trying to abbreviate, as you'll probably just confuse
- people.
-
- Sometimes you'll just see "SF" or "SM" for Single Male or Single
- Female. This means the person doesn't want to indicate race. You
- may also see something like "S*F" or "S*M". This is just another way
- of saying race is irrelevent to the person.
-
- Other abbreviations you might see include:
-
- ISO = In Search Of
- FTA = Fun, Travel, and Adventure
- Soulmate = Someone I can be completely intimate with who will be with
- me forever and ever, my perfect mate, my special lover and friend for
- life.
-
- So. Here's common things you'll see:
-
- GWM ISO G*M for FTA
-
- (Gay White Male In Search Of Fun/Travel/Adventure with Gay Male of
- any race.)
-
- WWF seeks soulmate.
-
- (Widowed White Female seeks special mate-for-life.)
-
- Finally, all of these are often concatenated with age and/or
- location. Such as:
-
- BOSTON DWM, 42, ISO SWF, 25-40
-
- (Divorced White Male, 42 years old, living in Boston and In Search Of
- a Single White Female, age 25 to 40.)
-
- Not everyone uses these abbreviations, but a lot of people do,
- because they make it easy for people to spot you and know if you're
- at least in the ballpark of what they're looking for. You may see
- variations on these abbreviations that you don't recognize, but
- usually you can figure it out from context once you get the trick of
- it.
-
-
- Q: HOW DO I WRITE MY OWN AD?
-
- Ah, there's a whole lot to be said here, and the advice can vary a
- lot. I'll concentrate on general advice for the moment, and on what
- I personally think:
-
- There is NOTHING more frustrating for the personals user than to
- spend ten minutes reading an ad that sounds very interesting, only to
- find out near the end that the person wants someone of a different
- age, or body type, or that the person lives much too far away to
- think about a relationship with.
-
- So, do yourself and everyone else a favor and START EVERY AD WITH THE
- BASICS ABOUT YOURSELF. The basics include:
-
- A) Your SEX
- B) Your AGE
- C) WHERE you LIVE
- D) Your RACE
- E) What you are BASICALLY LOOKING FOR
-
- And the best place to put all this is IN YOUR SUBJECT LINE. It saves
- an ENORMOUS amount of time for EVERYBODY.
-
- Some people are big fans of cute and creative subject line. For
- example:
-
- MUTANT SEEKS MUTANT. LET'S TAKE OVER THE UNIVERSE!
-
- Now this is pretty funny, and pretty clever. Unfortunately, if this
- happen was from a Gay White Male, aged 42, who only wanted gay
- black men in their 40s in Boston, I'm going to waste a lot of time
- reading this ad, because I'm not gay, I'm not black, I'm under 40,
- and I don't live anywhere near Boston! Why not make it easy on me and
- start with:
-
- Bostonian GWM, 42, ISO GBM, 40-50, for romance
-
- Then make the first line of your ad say: "I'm a mutant looking for
- another mutant, so we can take over the universe!" Another example
- might be:
-
- Bostonion Mutant seeks Mutant (GWM, 42, ISO GBM 40-50)
-
- By making sure your subject line contains your basic information, you
- will not only be doing everyone who would NOT be interested in you a
- favor, but you will increase the likelihood of someone who DOES want
- to meet you of actually spotting your ad.
-
- -=-=-
-
- All right, you've given a nice, concise, descriptive title to your
- message. Now you need to put some thought into the ad itself. The
- general advice I can give there is:
-
- A) DON'T RUSH. You have plenty of time to write this. Make it good.
-
- B) PUT SOME EFFORT INTO SPELLING & PUNCTUATION, and try not to
- ramble. You want to make a good impression.
-
- C) BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU DON'T WANT. If you're
- picky about something, it's better to say so in your ad than to let
- someone down later. "Please, if you're overweight, don't respond" may
- seem cruel or thoughtless, but if that's the way it is for you, SAY
- SO. It is much, much kinder than developing a relationship with
- someone who you have to shoot down later than just telling it like it
- is up front.
-
- What's better, disappointing someone BEFORE they waste their time
- getting to know you, or after they've gotten their hopes up?
-
- D) BE AS HONEST AS POSSIBLE. Lies will only get you in trouble
- later.
-
- E) DO YOUR BEST TO BE TOTALLY SINCERE. Insincerity frequently shows,
- even if you're not aware of it. True sincerity usually shines
- through and is much more attractive to most people.
-
- F) BE HONEST ABOUT YOUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS. Don't harp on them, but
- man, avoid discomfort for yourself and others and just let 'em know
- up front who and what you are and are not. Saying you don't want
- long-term committment, or that you're overweight, or that you have
- kids, or that you have bad skin, or that you have no fashion sense,
- or that you WANT marriage and kids, will be lots better than getting
- close to someone who finds out later and wishes they hadn't bothered
- with you.
-
- G) TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU NEED.
-
- This last is an issue on which there is some disagreement. The
- general FAQ for alt.personals advises posters to keep messages short
- and to the point, and to try to keep them to one screenful.
-
- Baloney!
-
- These days, most people have...
-
- [continued in Part II]
-
-