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- From: dan@psicounsel.com (Bruce Daniel Kettler)
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- (FAQ) Frequently Asked Questions of
-
- alt.paranormal
-
- answers
-
- By Bruce Daniel Kettler (c) 1997
-
- E-mail: dan@psicounsel.com
-
- Latest Update Feb. 20, 1998
-
- 1 Paranormal
- 2 Normal
- 3 Purpose
- 4 Skeptics
- 5 Conduct-Charter
- 6 Crossposting
- 7 Drawing the unwanted
- 8 On Topic
- 9 Polite, Civil, "Skeptics"
- 10 Why not Debate Polite Skeptics?
- 11 Debate the Paranormal
- 12 Law
- 13 Paranormal Organizations
- 14 Moderator
- 15 Leaders
- 16 Founder
- 17 Advertising
- 18 Kooks
-
- 1. What is alt.paranormal?
- ==========================
-
- It is a newsgroup for discussion of the psychic or mental
- phenomena outside the range of the normal. If your browser
- is of the correct type, access the newsgroup from [link] here.
-
- 2. What is "normal"?
- ====================
-
- "Normal" has to do with experience within the range of the
- 5 senses: sight, sound, touch, taste and smell. PSI, outside
- the 5 senses, is also "normal" in that it constitutes an
- accepted standard of society and occurs naturally. There
- is scientific testing/analysis, practice, and enhancement
- of PSI ability.
-
- Rather than list the various subjects and give a detailed
- description of them, it is sufficient to say that the
- descriptions of FAQ 1 and 2, above, tell us what may be
- included in the category of "paranormal." As examples,
- it naturally includes Spirit Communication, Remote Viewing,
- and Reincarnation.
-
- 3. What is the purpose of alt.paranormal?
- =========================================
-
- The central purpose is helpfullness. We urge any and all
- participating, to answer questions of those who are troubled,
- and who inquire. If you do not feel qualified, refer them to
- another poster who shows an awareness of particular subjects.
- Generally, to us, the paranormal is not an end, but rather a
- means to an end of spiritual upliftment, happiness, fulfillment,
- and enlightenment for ourselves and others. Our discussion
- with each other is usually for that central purpose, so we may
- use the insight gained to help others.
-
- 4. What about "skeptics"?
- =========================
-
- First, we define **so-called "skeptics." They are sometimes called
- "pseudo-skeptics," and should be clearly understood as not in the same
- category as "skeptical people" with the true dictionary definition of
- "questioning," "doubting" or "suspending judgement."
-
- **
- http://www.psicounsel.com/page9328-a.htm
-
- Next, we state that we believe in free speech, and there are many newsgroups
- to exercise that free speech in. Therefore, debate regarding the existence
- of paranormal phenomena should be conducted in newsgroups such as
- sci.skeptic. alt.paranormal is for discussion of the paranormal. This is
- the view of Steve Reiser, sir@srv.net, founder of alt.paranormal.
-
- 5. What conduct is expected in alt.paranormal, and
- what about a charter?
- ==============================================
-
- When a person writes about us, or our views, in a respectful manner, address
- that person in the same way. If they denigrate you or anyone posting in the
- newsgroup, lie about, or as bigots, write degrading remarks about us or our
- views of reality, then effectively and explicitly **flame them.
-
- **
- http://www.psicounsel.com/flame.html
-
- The fact that a person is doubtful, or is sure of the non-existence of
- paranormal phenomena, and posts in alt.paranormal, is *not* a reason to
- flame them.
-
- If a person thinks the paranormal must be of Satanic origin, that is also
- not a reason to flame them. Their views can be debated in the appropriate
- newsgroup of their particular sect.
-
- Advise the person wishing to debate that they place that request in
- alt.paranormal, inviting those who wish to engage in that debate to
- sci.skeptic, a similar "skeptic," or other sect newsgroup. Most of those
- reading alt.paranormal will have the opportunity to read or participate in
- the debate in other newsgroups.
-
- The sci-skeptic **FAQs answers, updated April 21, 1996, indicate that
- discussion between skeptics and paranormal enthusisasts is appropriate in
- that newsgroup:
-
- **
- http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/skeptic-faq.html
-
-
- 0.1: What is sci.skeptic for?
- -----------------------------
-
- Sci.skeptic is for those who are
- skeptical about claims of the
- paranormal to meet with those
- who believe in the paranormal.
-
- ____Charter for alt.paranormal____
-
- Regular posters who have an interest in, and find
- value in the paranormal, for the most part, do not
- feel obligated to justify their interests in,
- or their activities with, the paranormal, whether
- they are engaged in it only for personal interest,
- or for material gain as well.
-
- alt.paranormal is _not_ intended as a forum
- for disbelievers to voice their contempt
- for paranormalists or to harass them about
- their beliefs and demand of them scientific
- proof. Groups discussing the scientific validity
- of theories are either prefixed with "sci" or
- they have some other designation.
-
- The alt.paranormal newsgroup is:
-
- 1. To exchange information about experiences
- amongst those interested in the paranormal.
-
- 2. To exchange opinions and ideas about the
- paranormal amongst those who find value it it.
-
- 3. To provide spiritual guidance and other advice
- or psychically perceived data to those who
- seek it publicly, or privately if they
- express that desire.
-
- 4. To provide text information and references to
- WEB SITES, as well as books, which contain
- information about the paranormal, or about
- scientific research with the paranormal.
-
- 5. To provide references for those who doubt
- that there is such a thing as the paranormal,
- so they may investigate for themselves, and
- perhaps debate the research findings in other
- appropriate newsgroups.
-
- 6. To provide a forum to announce debates in
- other appropriate newsgroups, so people may
- discuss issues of whether there is such a
- thing as the paranormal, or whether it is
- necessarily satanic in origin, in those other
- newsgroups.
-
- Neither the author of this FAQ, or any of the participants in the newsgroup,
- assume legal liability for advice or insights into the lives of those
- participating in the Newsgroup.
-
- No paid readings or advice about personal matters
- should be placed in the public forum.
-
- 6. What about crossposting?
- ===========================
-
- Please do not crosspost to any "skeptic" type newsgroup. This includes
- alt.fan.art-bell in its **present state. Such crossposting invites
- "skeptics." Crossposting to opposing view sects invites those people also.
-
- When "skeptics" cross-post, (post simultaneously in sci.skeptic and
- alt.paranormal) please advise them this is
- against both the FAQ's of alt.paranormal, and that of sci.skeptic, and that
- you will cease including their
- newsgroup in your header.
-
- **
- http://www.psicounsel.com/artbellclub/afabfaq.html
-
- 0.1: What is sci.skeptic for?
- -----------------------------
-
- ...some of the topics covered
- might be better kept in their
- own newsgroups. [the "topics covered"
- list does not include alt.paranormal
- - BDK]
-
- CROSS-POSTING from these groups is
- NOT APPRECIATED by the majority of
- sci.skeptic readers.
-
- 7. What draws "skeptics" and other sects, and keeps them in
- alt.paranormal?
- ===========================================================
-
- Extensive discussion about "skeptics" or other sects also invites them to
- post in alt.paranormal.
-
- If "skeptics" or other sects wish to engage you in arguments about posting
- debate in alt.paranormal, simply copy and paste the appropriate parts of
- these FAQ's and post them. If you argue with them, they will have reason to
- continue posting in alt.paranormal.
-
- 8. What is on-topic posting?
- ============================
-
- We endeavor to post on-topic. An on-topic post is one about the paranormal.
- This includes writing about how
- the paranormal subjects are presented and discussed.
-
- 9. What about polite, civil, "skeptics" or actual skeptical people who
- continue to attempt debate after being asked to post debates in skeptical
- newsgroups?
- ================================================================
-
- Please do not flame them, or harass them with excessively repititive
- requests if they treat you, and all those in the newsgroup, with respect.
- However, it is strongly urged that you do not engage in debate, or try to
- prove the existence of the paranormal, in alt.paranormal. Usually, your
- inactivity in that regard discourages future attempts.
-
- 10. Why not debate with polite "skeptics" in alt.paranormal?
- ============================================================
-
- The experience of most people with more than a year of positive contribution
- in alt.paranormal, and who find value in the subject of the paranormal, is
- that most of the people who argue against the existence of the paranormal,
- in alt.paranormal, are obnoxious. The volume, frequency and hostility of
- the postings dissuades serious inquirers from reading or posting in the
- newsgroup. There are, of course, some "skeptics" who have
- debated with no real harm to the newsgroup, but for the most part it has
- been, and would likely continue to be, destructive to the harmonious and
- productive flow of information and ideas. The exact type of acceptable
- "skeptic," or the names of certain individuals to debate whether the
- paranormal exists, cannot feasibly be placed in these FAQs.
-
- 11. Do we debate about the paranormal?
- ======================================
-
- Civily conducted debate regarding the paranormal, such as methods of ESP
- enhancement, how to communicate with spirit guides, how to channel with
- automatic writing, the nature of ghosts, etc. is encouraged, but not debate
- about whether such phenomena exists, or if all such phenomena is necessarily
- Satanic in origin.
-
- 12. What is binding law?
- ========================
-
- These Freqently Asked Questions (FAQ) and answers do not, necessarily,
- constitute binding law either on Usenet, or on the Internet Service
- Providers. They serve as guidelines, having been shown to be be the will of
- regular posters who have contributed for years, who find paranormal
- phenomena to be both real and valuable.
-
- These FAQs are referenced by Internet Service Providers and Usenet if
- matters that are written in them also concern matters of Usenet Abuse, spam,
- or breaches of netiquette that Usenet or Internet Service Providers normally
- take action about.
-
- If you break other laws, outside of alt.paranormal, you answer to those
- juristictions.
-
- 13. How does alt.paranormal relate to paranormal-type organizations?
- ======================================================
-
- There are no favorites, nor does alt.paranormal represent any sect or
- religion. There are many religions, and many applications of the paranormal.
-
- On the matter of good and evil, or light and darkness, we do favor light,
- love, truth, abundance, helpfulness, caring, and discourage darkness, lies,
- negativity, hatred, and poverty.
-
- 14. What is a moderator?
- ========================
-
- There are 2 types of moderators:
-
- A. A moderator of a "moderated" newsgroup.
-
- That person determines which posts appear and
- which do not. Presently, alt.paranormal has
- no such moderator.
-
- B. A moderator of an officially "unmoderated" newsgroup.
-
- There are a number of regulars, people who find value in
- the subject of the paranormal, and they tell
- what is and is not acceptable by posting
- on the newsgroup.
-
- 15. Who runs alt.paranormal?
- ============================
-
- The "regulars" of alt.paranormal, which include, but are not limited to
- those who's names appear in this section (#reg) of a certain web page.
-
- http://www.psicounsel.com/page9328-a.htm#reg
-
- A "regular" is a person who has contributed to the newsgroup for a year or
- more, who finds value in, and has knowledge of, paranormal phenomena -- not
- someone who argues against the existence of the paranormal.
-
- 16. Who founded alt.paranormal and when?
- ========================================
-
- It was founded by Steve Reiser, sir@srv.net, in 1990.
-
- 17. What about Advertising?
- ===========================
-
- Short, to the point, advertising is permitted if it concerns the subject of
- the newsgroup, and is not excessively repetitive. As examples, we are not
- interested in ads for sex phone lines, get-rich-quick schemes, or health
- related items. This is in accordance with present-day netiquette standards.
-
- 18. What is a "kook"?
- =====================
-
- They are silly, eccentric, or crazy people. Kooks are quoted on certain
- **web pages, and a link is provided to a site with the rules regarding the
- nomination and election of people declared to be Usenet Kooks. Obsessive
- behavior by "skeptics" and other sects in alt.paranormal is silly and crazy,
- and will probably lead to nomination and election as Kook of the Month: (kOTM).
-
- http://www.psicounsel.com/intelllig.html#kook
-
-
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