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- Summary: offline reading of mail and news on PCs, Macs, etc. (usually at home)
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- Note: The original author of this document, Zhahai Stewart, has handed the
- maintenance of this FAQ off to me as of mid-1994. I have taken the
- liberty of making some minor updates and corrections. I wouldn't have
- bothered except that I found this document particularly helpful when I was
- getting started in offline reading and thought it was worth a little work.
- I invite any further suggested changes. I am especially desirous of
- removing any redundant and/or outdated information that is more
- appropriate in one of the other FAQs posted to alt.usenet.offline-reader
- or comp.os.msdos.mail-news.
-
- Mike Northam (mbn@teleport.com)
-
- =====================================
-
- Unix host to DOS offline-reader systems
- for reading, replying, and posting email and news.
- Zhahai Stewart
- 12/06/93 Version
- 08/01/94 updates by Mike Northam
- 01/22/95 updates from readers
- Thomas Riha <rito@site46.ping.at>
- William Werth <billw@eskimo.com>
- 03/15/95 Rhys Weatherley <meteor@sprintmail.com>
- Russell Schulz
- <Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG>
- =============== Intro ===============
-
- Many people read their internet mail and usenet newsgroups via direct
- login to a Unix based host, using a terminal (like a VT-100/200/300
- series), or a computer emulating a terminal. They may do this via a wired
- connection (say, at a university computer lab), or via a modem and
- telephone connection. On the Unix end, they may run a news reader program
- such as rn, trn, nn, tin, etc. for news, and a mail reader such as mail,
- elm, etc. for email.
-
- (Of course, lucky ones have a high powered graphical workstation on a high
- speed network gated to the internet, but that's another thing...).
-
- For those who are connecting via modem and a computer emulating a
- terminal, it becomes obvious that they could reduce their connect time
- (which may cost money, or may tie up a phone line, or ...) if they could
- download new email and news, read and respond "offline" (while not
- connected to the Unix host), and then upload their mail and news
- responses. This is the idea behind offline readers. A very similar
- process is used by many BBS users, but the typical BBS oriented formats
- and offline readers (eg: QWK and Bluewave formats and offline readers)
- were not designed for Internet mail and Usenet news.
-
- However there are now several options for offline reading of internet
- email and usenet newsgroups. First off, there are "sorta" 4 packet
- formats:
-
- SOUP - designed for just this purpose, open standard, has the most
- support; used to be called "HellDiver Packet Format" or HDPF.
- ZipNews - also designed for this, proprietary, one $20 shareware reader
- QWK plain - actually BBS std, doesn't handle email and news well,
- especially bad for replies; but can be read by any QWK reader.
- QWK with header in body - includes internet/usenet header in the QWK
- body; theoretically a reader could use this (MR/2 INMAK does so,
- and handles setting up reply headers, too); one can at least read
- (verbosely) the header info, and an expert can manually create
- appropriate response headers (dangerous, as it is possible for a
- user to enter invalid header information).
-
- Basically, all of these consist of a group of files (one or two per
- newsgroup, plus a few extra) enclosed in a compressed archive file (like
- *.zip).
-
- On the Unix side, there are two packages which can create these packets
- for download, and accept uploaded responses.
-
- uqwk - can create/accept all four (SOUP, Zipnews, QWK plain and QWK
- header)
- getnews/postreply - can create/accept SOUP (in slnr package)
-
- Both of these are distributed in C source code, and may need to be
- compiled on your Unix machine host (somebody else may already have done
- this, or you may have to).
-
- Another tool is olmenu, a front-end to uqwk:
- olmenu kgresham@america.net
- ftp.america.net:/pub/offline_readers/OLMenu/olmnu117.zip
- http://www.america.net/~kgresham/olmenu.html
-
- Jim Tittsler says:
- I've added "score" (in YARN format) file processing to uqwk. Articles
- with negative scores are not added to your uqwk packet. This eliminates
- the need to run trn before uqwk just to kill off some articles.
- It is distributed in the form of a source patch to uqwk version 1.8.
- http://shrine.cyber.ad.jp/~jwt/uqwk
-
- I've also created a SOUP<>QWK converter that is intended to allow using
- a SOUP format reader to be used to read/reply to QWK format packets...
- in case that is all that is offered by your host.
- http://shrine.cyber.ad.jp/~jwt/qwksoup/
-
- On the nearby (to you) end, on your machine, there are several offline
- readers. There are two basic dynamics: either they read the downloaded
- packet directly, or you run one program to import each packet into a local
- messagebase and another to read/respond from the messagebase. A
- "threaded" reader can group related messages together (eg: same subject);
- unthreaded ones display them in the order received.
-
- slnr - SOUP only; MSDOS; packet reader; distributed in C source;
- colored screens supported; also runs under Unix or Atari or OS/2
- offliner - SOUP; MSWindows; beta at present (apparently abandoned)
- paperboy - SOUP only; MSWindows; packet reader; threaded
- newswerthy - SOUP; MSDOS; databased; threaded
- yarn - SOUP only; MSDOS; messagebase reader; threaded; also runs under
- OS/2
- unor - SOUP only; MSWindows; packet reader; unthreaded
- (sorted by 'Subject:' header)
- hpv - SOUP only; MSDOS; packet reader?
- ZipNews Reader - ZipNews only; MSDOS; packet reader; threaded; shareware
- $20; unregistered version can read netnews only, cannot read email or
- respond to either
-
- any QWK reader - can read QWK plain or QWK header, but most cannot
- handle all of the internet/usenet fields, or good responses. Not
- recommended except as a last resort for this reason. Some QWK
- readers now respect Usenet header formats and these are perfectly
- acceptable. MANY readers are available, for many machines and OS's.
-
- Note that all of these formats, host programs, and offline readers can
- handle both email and newsgroups; unlike the typical Unix software
- division of labor, the same program usually does both.
-
- There is more information on the formats, readers, and host software later
- in this document, including file names, authors, and ftp locations.
-
- ========= Setting up and configuring the software =========
-
- This can be complicated, and very much depends on the software you are
- using. You may have to create configuration files (on the DOS and/or Unix
- end), or set environment variables (likewise, on either or both ends), or
- use the right set of command line parameters. You may want to create
- "shell scripts" (on the Unix End) or "batch files" (on the DOS end) to aid
- you in getting everything set up or called correctly. You will have to
- read the documents for the software you plan to use. Ask specific
- questions in the newsgroup if you get confused. This document would be
- many times longer if I tried to explain all the background and details
- (well, even that portion thereof which I more or less understand <grin>).
-
- You may even need to compile some C program(s) to get started. Some
- systems are simple (like getnews/postreply/slnr) and fairly obvious to
- anybody used to the compiler; others like uqwk include a makefile to
- handle the complexity. Get local help if you cannot figure out how to
- compile. [See note at end.]
-
- ========== Operating Procedure (after set up) ===========
-
- Typical usage:
- Use your terminal program and modem to log in to the Unix host as usual.
- Run UWQK or getnews with proper parameters to extract news and email and
- create a 'download' packet.
- Download the 'download' packet using a modem file transfer protocol like
- ZMODEM.
- Log off.
-
- For packet reader, run the reader software on the new packet; read &
- reply
- For messagebase reader, run the import software on the new packet; then
- run the reader to read from the messagebase.
- The reader should create a reply ('upload') packet if you have any
- responses.
- Use the terminal program to log in again (or do this next time you
- download).
- Upload the reply packet via a modem file transfer protocol like Zmodem.
- Run 'uqwk' or 'postnews' with the proper parameters to process the reply
- packet and send email and/or news to the appropriate destinations.
- Log off.
-
- One part not specifically addressed here is the process of moving
- individual files in the packet into and out of compressed archives. Some
- aspects may be done automatically, others you may have to do manually (or
- via batch files). For example, getnews will invoke a configurable
- archivers (by default, zip), but you have to manually unarchive (unzip,
- pkunzip) this file on your PC before handing the enclosed files to slnr.
- Read the docs.
-
- Logging in, running the host programs, and downloading/uploading are still
- your responsibility, so you need to already know how to log on to the host
- system, and how to download and upload binary files using a protocol like
- Zmodem. The UQWK and getnews/postreply software must also exist on the
- Unix host, and be properly configured (these come with doc files). You
- should understand the idea of compressed archive formats, like .zip files.
-
- ========== Basic Questions and Answers ============
-
- Q: What is "subscribing" to a newsgroup?
-
- A: This just means that you have it on a list to be read; the list is
- maintained as a file on the host, and it has both the name of the
- newsgroup and the list of messages (by number) which you have already
- read. This file is typically named ".newsrc" and is kept in your host
- directory. Files beginning with a period are by default not shown, so
- this is a semi-hidden file; see a book on Unix for more details.
- Subscribing means the newsgroup names go into this file (one per line),
- unsubscribing means the name is removed. (Detail: actually, it's
- subscribed only if the newsgroup name is followed by a colon; if followed
- by an exclamation point, it is unsubscribed even if listed in the file).
- Offline reader host programs (getnews and uqwk) also use a file like this
- for the same purpose (to know which groups are subscribed, and which
- messages have already been marked as read); they may use the same file,
- or separate ones.
-
- Note that most online newsreaders allow you to subscribe or unsubscribe
- to newsgroups, and change your .newsrc accordingly (as they also do to
- show which messages you read). You can also do so with a text editor, as
- the ".newsrc" file is simple text., and there exist special programs for
- maintaining this file. Offline host programs may require that you use
- some online method to maintain your .newsrc (or equivalent)--the online
- reader, or an editor, or a maintenance program; or they may allow you to
- subscribe and unsuscribe remotely. For example, the SOUP protocol has
- explicit options (which may or may not be implemented) for subscribing
- and unsubscribing, as well as listing newsgroups. Or, the uqwk program
- can read commands mailed to it as messages. See the documentation.
-
- Q: Can I read my mail/news both online (connected to the Unix host via a
- terminal or terminal emulator and using elm/nn/trn/etc.), and offline
- (via a packet format and offline reader as described here)?
-
- A: Yes, but you need to think out what you are trying to do. Both the
- online reading programs and the host end of the offline system keep track
- of which messages you have read or not read. Do you want them to use the
- same info about this? Or each keep separate pointers?
-
- Same info: For news, use the same .newsrc file for both the online news
- readers (like rn/trn/nn/tin/etc.) and for the host end of the offline
- system (like uqwk/getnews). Once either of these has read a message, it
- will be marked not to be presented to you again by either one (unless you
- take special actions). For mail, have uqwk/getnews delete your incoming
- mailbox after collecting the messages therein. In this case, each mail
- message will go to the online or offline reader, whichever gets it first
- (actually, this is only true if you delete it from the incoming mailbox
- with the online mail program; if you leave it around, the offline host
- program will snarf it up when it next runs).
-
- Different info: For news, use a different .newrc type file for each;
- uqwk can be configured to use another one, getnews can be edited and
- recompiled. You can decide to put some newsgroups into each, allowing
- some to be read online and some offline. Of you a newsgroup in both
- such files, in which case the online and offline readers will maintain
- separate pointers. For mail, configure the offline host program to not
- delete your mailbox; you will get all mail both offline and online.
-
- You can answer this question (using the same or different info about
- what has been read for online and offline) independently for mail and
- news. The difference between them is that for news, you only have info
- about which messages you have already read (in your .newsrc or
- equivalent file), but the messages (whicha are shared by everybody) stay
- around for a while and you can still refetch ones you are marked as
- having read with some minor effort; but for mail, once the messages are
- deleted from your incoming mailbox (by an online mail program or an
- offline host program), they are gone, period.
-
- Q: I cannot compile getnews.c on my Unix host; it gives two errors, one
- near "recompile" and another near the "I" command description.
-
- A: Version 1.9 of getnews.c is mostly "old" C, but has one ANSI extension
- which confuses some older C compilers: concentanation of two adjacent
- quoted strings. This is used for multiline strings in two places. You
- have to change the second and following strings into separate print
- statements, matching the first one. Maybe this will be changed in a
- later version. The problem is your compiler being too old, not bad
- coding on the author's part. Luckily, this is easy to compensate for.
-
- Q: On the PC, "slnr" blows up in strange ways with some newsgroups.
-
- A: If the newsgroup name plus description is too long, the stack gets
- trashed, with unpredictable but unpleasant results. In the function
- "show_header()", increase the length of the desc[80] array, maybe to 160.
- Recompile.
-
- Q: How do I create a SOUP packet for download with uqwk?
-
- A: run the commands:
- uqwk +n +m +L
- zip news.zip AREAS *.MSG
- sz news.zip
-
- Q: How do I get my uqwk SOUP replies mailed?
-
- A: run the commands:
- rz ;your comm program will prompt you for the reply packet
- unzip -U reply.zip
- uqwk -n -m +L -RREPLIES
-
- Q: How do I create a Zipnews packet for download with uqwk?
-
- A: run the commands:
- uqwk +n +m +z
- zip news.zns <user>.*
- sz news.zns
-
- Q: How do I get my uqwk Zipnews replies mailed?
-
- A: run the commands:
- rz ;your comm program will prompt you for the reply packet
- unzip -U <host>.pst
- uqwk -n -m +z -R.
-
- Q: How do I find out more about uqwk?
-
- A: type the command: man uqwk
- You can find out which version of uqwk your system is running by
- typing: uqwk -p
-
- Q: uqwk can, under certain circumstances, lose mail. How can I avoid
- this?
-
- A: Use the following script for secure mail locking:
-
- #!/bin/sh
- #
- # Safe UQWK wrapper -- H.Shrikumar shri@cs.umass.edu 1994
- # All rights reserved by the holder of the mail lock file. :-)
- #
- ( echo 's1-$' /tmp/qwk$$ ; echo q ) | mail
- exec uqwk -f/tmp/qwk$$ $*
-
-
- Q. Is it possible to use killfiles with uqwk? (Answered by Larry
- Caldwell <larryc@teleport.com>)
-
- A. Uqwk does not directly support killfiles, but it uses the same .newsrc
- as trn, which does support killfiles, and is available on almost all
- unix systems. Just run trn first, then run uqwk and you won't have to
- download mountains of junk.
-
- You can learn the full details of trn kill files in the rn killfile
- FAQ, which is regularly posted to news.software.readers.
-
- Here is a shell script wrapper for trn:
-
- # cut here -------------------------------
- #!/bin/sh
- # trnkill - shell script to apply trn KILL files in the background
- # 14 Mar 89 created for rn by Jim Olsen <olsen@XN.LL.MIT.EDU>
- # 10 Sep 93 modified for trn 3 (or 2) by Wayne Davison <davison@borland.com>
- # 16 Nov 94 New version received from Chin Huang <cthuang@io.sys>
- #
- # Options: -d debug mode -- you see all gory action as it happens.
- #
- # Visit all newsgroups (if trn asks about anything else, just say no)
- export TRNINIT TRNMACRO RNMACRO
- TRNINIT='-q -s -T -t -x +X'
- TRNMACRO=/tmp/trnkill$$
- # support for trn 2.x
- RNMACRO=$TRNMACRO
- trap 'rm -f $TRNMACRO; exit' 1 2 3 15
- cat >$TRNMACRO <<'EOF'
- z %(%m=[nf]?.q^J:n)^(z^)
- ^m ^(z^)
- ^j ^(z^)
- EOF
- if test X$1 = X-d; then
- echo "z" | trn
- else
- echo "z" | trn >/dev/null 2>&1
- fi
- rm -f $TRNMACRO
- exit 0
- # cut here -------------------------------
-
-
- =============== Formats =============
-
- Format: QWK (plain; message body = Usenet message body)
- Origin: sparky@sparkware.com (Mark "Sparky" Herring), extended by others
- Version: 1.7
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/qwklay16.zip QWK format spec
- Files Dnloaded:CONTROL.DAT,MESSAGES.DAT,*.NDX
- Files Uploaded:<bbsid>.MSG
- Unix Host End: uqwk (optional mode)
- DOS Reader End: any standard QWK reader
-
- Advantages:
- Widely supported standard, many readers available for many machines
- Compatible with QWK packets from many BBSs and doors
- uqwk source freely available
- Disadvantages:
- QWK format truncates some important fields, is missing others as
- initially implemented. Some readers overcome this disadvantage.
- * This is a major problem for posts and replies *
-
- ***
-
- Format: QWK (w/header; message body = Usenet message header and body)
- Origin: (see above for basic QWK)
- Version: 1.7
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/qwklay16.zip QWK format spec
- Files Dnloaded:CONTROL.DAT,MESSAGES.DAT,*.NDX
- Files Uploaded:<bbsid>.MSG
- Unix Host End: uqwk (default mode)
- DOS Reader End: [most QWK readers]
-
- Advantages:
- Piggybacks on std QWK, can fallback to previous case
- With full headers, it's possible to write USENET aware reader
- uqwk source freely available
- Disadvantages:
- Many QWK readers do not make correct use of Usenet headers. Some use
- headers embedded in the QWK message body, for replies, display,
- threading, etc. and these are preferred for Usenet use.
-
- ***
-
- Format: SOUP (formerly Helldiver Packet Format, HDPF or HPF)
- Origin: meteor@sprintmail.com (Rhys Weatherley)
- Version: 1.2
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/soup12.zip SOUP format spec
- Files Dnloaded: AREAS, *.MSG, *.IDX (typ in INFONEWS.ZIP)
- Files Uploaded: REPLIES, RMAIL.MSG (typ in REPLY.ZIP) for slnr
- REPLIES, MAIL.MSG (typ in IOXR.ZIP) for yarn
- Unix Host End: getnews/postreply from slnr pkg; uqwk
- DOS Reader End: slnr; yarn; unor; hpv (Helldiver Packet Viewer); offliner
-
- Advantages:
- Format designed for Usenet news/mail, powerful and expandable
- Full header fields, no truncation
- Source code freely available for getnews,postreply,slnr,uqwk
- Largest number of readers for any full-header usenet offline format
- Disadvantages:
- The name? email mbn@teleport.com if you have comments on any disadvantages.
-
- ***
-
- Format: ZipNews format
- Origin: jkilday@nlbbs.com (Jack Kilday)
- Version: 0.92y
- Ftp: (format not publicly documented)
- Files Dnloaded: Archived file <bbsname>.ZNS contains:
- <user>.JN, <user>.NWS, <user>.MAI, <user>.GPS
- Files Uploaded: <bbsname>.pst contains:
- <user>.id, <user>.* (one for each article or reply)
- Unix Host End: uqwk
- Dos Reader End: ZipNews Reader
-
- Advantages:
- Designed to handle usenet messages without omissions or truncations
- For DOS BBSs, there is a compatible "ZipNews Door" host end
- Disadvantages:
- Supported only by ZipNews Reader on DOS, and uqwk on unix hosts
- Beta only at this time; registration is $19.95 during Beta phase
- (with free upgrades to later versions)
- ZipNews unregistered shareware will not post news, read email, or
- send email, only read news (and send subscribe/unsubscribe cmds)
- but a 10-day evaluation key can be obtained via email to try out
- these functions
-
- ============= Readers ============
- ***
- Name: 1stReader
- Author: Mark "Sparky" Herring (sparky@sparkware.com)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200a.zip
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200b.zip
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200c.zip
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200d.zip
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200e.zip
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/1st-200f.zip
-
- Notes: QWK format that extracts information from RFC-822 headers
-
-
- ***
- Name: Crosspoint 3.11
- Author: Peter Mandrella (peter@xpoint.ruessel.sub.org)
- ftp://ftp.ping.at/pub/pc/xpoint/prog/
- http://ttrip.worms.fh-rpl.de/xp/
-
- (reviewed by Thomas Riha (rito@site46.ping.at))
-
- Crosspoint (XP) is DOS based and works in several networks (FIDO, Z-
- Connect, Internet, Usenet...).
-
- The Internet, or UUCP, module is by far the easiest to work with program
- I've seen so far. You don't have to edit config files. Everything is done
- from inside the program. You only have to fill out a few points, call your
- provider with crosspoint and the program fixes everything for you.
-
- Maybe the problem with XP is that it is a German program but an english
- version is available since last June (but I'm not sure about the UUCP-
- module - but I think it's being translated right now). Some english
- speaking persons use it already - at least there are some english mails in
- the usenet-group de.comm.software.crosspoint.
-
- Next advantage: The registered version is quite cheap (40$) and the non-
- registered version isn't crippled at all.
-
-
- ***
- Name: hpv 1.01b Helldiver Packet Viewer
- Author: meteor@sprintmail.com (Rhys Weatherley)
- ftp://ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/waffle/news/hpv101b.zip
-
- Notes: DOS reader. HDPF format. Reads archived HDPF packet (does its own
- unarchiving to a temporary and deletes temps on exit). Multiple archiver
- formats accepted (ZIP/LHA/etc.) Text/Graphical interface (Borland lib).
- "The Original" SOUP reader (HDPF predates SOUP).
-
- ***
- Name: helldiver 1.07 Helldiver windows Packet Viewer
- Author: meteor@sprintmail.com (Rhys Weatherley)
- ftp://ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/waffle/news/helld107.zip
-
- Notes: MS Windows viewer. Supports Waffle only.
-
- ***
- NewsWerthy (reviewd by William Werth <billw@eskimo.com>
-
- Name: NewsWerthy 2.10 - SOUP format, packet reader, threads on subject.
- Author: William Werth (billw@eskimo.com)
- ftp://ftp.eskimo.com:/u/b/billw/nwrth210.zip
- Available using ncftp with the following command:
-
- ncftp ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/b/billw/nwrth210.zip
-
- (or with ftp at ftp.eskimo.com in directory /u/b/billw).
-
- If the above site is busy during peak hours try any of the Simtel
- mirror sites. The primary one is ftp.coast.net and it is in the
- SimTel/msdos/offline directory.
-
- Notes: Fully functional, reads news and mail, can send replies to
- either. Works well when used with uqwk, since it has a built in interface
- to uqwk commands.
-
- Now includes support for mailing lists, including a separate "news" group
- for the list and an option to reply to the mailing list.
-
-
- ***
- Name: slnr 1.3 Simple Local News Reader
- Author: Philippe Goujard (ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk)
- ftp://ftp.uu.net:/networking/news/readers/off-line/slnr/
-
- Notes: DOS reader. SOUP format. Reads directly from unarchived SOUP packet,
- directly produces replies. Freely available in source. Packaged along
- with getnews 1.9 and postreply, which can provide Unix SOUP host functions,
- also in source format. Has compile options for Unix, OS/2 and Atari based
- reader. Currently limited to 500 msgs and 100 groups per packet in DOS
- version, but easy to expand. Can colorize display via ANSI.SYS escape
- sequences.
-
- ***
- Name: slrn 0.9.5.4 SLRN Newsreader
- Author: John E. Davis
- ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn
- Homepage: http://space.mit.edu/~davis/slrn.html
-
- Review courtesy of Tim Kynerd <tim.kynerd@idsc.nu>
-
- Brief synopsis: slrn is a threading newsreader based (perhaps loosely)
- on the good old rn newsreader. The "sl" part comes from the fact that
- slrn uses the S-Lang library. Both slrn and S-Lang are the work of John
- E. Davis, also the author of the editor jed.
-
- slrn now includes a utility called slrnpull. This can be set up to
- connect to your news server and pull down new messages for the groups
- you read. It is not intended to be used for a large news feed, as INN
- or CNews is, but for a relatively small number of groups. (I read about
- six groups at home.)
-
- My setup is a Linux box with slrn and slrnpull. I have cron jobs set up
- that go out and connect to my ISP, and pull down news, every x hours. I
- then read news in slrn (telling it to read news from the spool on my
- hard disk rather than my news server). Responses are placed into a
- directory under the spool called out.going, and are automatically posted
- the next time slrnpull runs (unless you tell it not to).
-
- Slrnpull is the easiest piece of software to configure that I have ever
- seen (and I'm a systems consultant).
-
-
- ***
- Name: yarn 0.85 (Yet Another RN)
- Author: cthuang@io.org (Chin Huang)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/yarn_085.zip (DOS)
- ftp://ftp.nation.org:/pub/offline/* (DOS and OS/2)
- ftp://hobbes.NMSU.edu:/os2/comm/yrn2_085.zip (OS/2)
- ftp://ftp-os2.cdrom.com:/pub/os2/bbs/yrn2_084.zip (OS/2)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/win3/offline/winyrn71.zip (Windows)
-
- Notes: DOS and OS/2 reader. SOUP format (fully Usenet compliant). Netnews
- and mail. Imports SOUP packets into its own messagebase format, date
- expires old messages; reader operates on messagebase rather than SOUP
- packet. No source.
-
- ***
- Name: Offliner for Windows 0.06b Usenet Offline Reader
- Author: harknesb@metronet.com (Barry L. Harkness)
- ftp://ftp.oslonett.no:/gopher/Software/Windows/Comm/Offline/ol06b.zip
- [maintenance apparently abandoned 9/95. mbn]
-
- Notes: MS Windows Reader. SOUP format. Currently in beta test.
-
- ***
- Name: unor 0.31 Usenet Offline Reader
- Author: rrusbasa@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
- ftp://ftp.gte.com:/pub/unor/unor0031.zip
-
- Notes: MS Windows Reader. SOUP format.
-
- ***
- Name: znr 0.93b ZipNews Reader
- Author: jkilday@nlbbs.com (Jack Kilday)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/znr093b.zip
- ftp://ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/waffle/news/znr092y.zip (old version)
- ftp://ftp.gte.com:/pub/zipnews/znr093b.zip
-
- Notes: DOS reader. ZipNews format, or local Waffle BBS messagebase.
- Proprietary format; DOS based host also available (ZipNews Door). $19.95
- shareware. Fully Usenet compliant.
-
- ***
- Name: pboy 2.06 PaperBoy
- Author: vart@clark.net (Michael H. Vartanian)
- ftp://ftp.clark.net:/pub/vart/pboy206.zip
-
- Notes: MS Windows based. SOUP Reader.
-
- ***
- Information submitted by Kathy Morgan <kmorgan@polarnet.com>
- Name: MacSOUP
- Author: Stefan Haller
- File size is 633K, $20 shareware
-
- This site has an informational paragraph written by the author, Stefan
- Haller, and it is a download site:
- http://www.snafu.de/~stk/macsoup/
-
- A longer informational paragraph and link to Stefan Haller's download site
- is available at:
- http://www.blol.com/web_mnj/060196/macsoupjune.html
-
- This site mentions MacSOUP, toadnews and rnmac as SOUP readers
- for Macintosh.
- http://www.nic.com/~cannon/winsock.html#mac
-
- Another site
- ftp: http://www6.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/mac/infomac.html?fcode=MC14326
-
- Kathy adds the following review:
- All I can offer is my experience after some initial difficulty in
- configuring my system to use MacSOUP, I find that it is *much* faster in
- downloaded the newsgroups than other newsreaders I've tried by at least an
- order of magnitude (Newswatcher, YA Newswatcher, another I can't remember
- the name of, and Netscape, all on-line readers). MacSOUP can be used with
- unix accounts, slip accounts, or PP/TCP type connections. (I've got the
- last, so of course I haven't tried it with the other two.)
-
- My difficulty in configuring was that the news password and news user name
- had to be deleted from my Internet Config file in order to access my
- particular news server. Information about this is in the manual; some
- servers need the password and user name, other servers do not want it.
-
- ============ Utility Software for Offline Readers ==========
-
- ***
- Name: Bus V0.12
- Author: bobr@mcs.com (Robert P. Rush)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/bus-012.zip
-
- Notes: Bus-012 (v0.12) - Bus works with uqwk's summary mode to select
- threads based on the subject line. Bus will take the summary file produced
- by uqwk and match subject lines to produce threads. It will then use a
- full-screen format to present these threads for selection. Includes bug
- fixes; improvements for blind users. Freeware. Robert P. Rush bobr@mcs.com
-
- ***
- Name: DDigest ddig-006.zip Extract articles from digest mailing lists.
- Author: bobr@mcs.com (Robert P. Rush)
- ftp://ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/offline/ddig-005.zip
-
-
- DDigest (De-Digest) will extract individual articles from a digest
- format mailing list and place these articles into a rnews packet to be
- imported into an offline news reader. DDigest will find these digests
- in either a mail packet (in soup format), or a Yarn folder.
-
- It uses regular expressions when searching for the digest and when
- looking for separators between articles.
-
-
-
- ============ Unix based Host Software for Offline Readers ==========
-
- Name: uqwk 1.8 Unix QWK host
- Author: seb3@gte.com (Steve Belczyk)
- ftp://ftp.gte.com:/pub/uqwk/uqwk1.8.tar.Z
- ftp://ftp.clark.net:/pub/vart/uqwk.binary.solaris.nntp
- ftp://ftp.clark.net:/pub/vart/uqwk.binary.solaris.spool
-
- Notes: Unix host. SOUP, ZipNews, QWK and QWK/header in body formats. The
- compiled Solaris versions are available for those without a compiler.
-
- Jeroen Scheerder <js@xs4all.nl> writes:
- I have a set of patches available that implement NNTP authentication
- for uqwk, includes Jim Tittsler's score code (with bugfixes); it fixes
- dozens of other bugs, and behaves much better.
- New URL: <http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ejs/warez/uqwk++.tar.gz>
- It's in late beta now, and will be `uqwk 2.0' soon, having major new
- features and being pretty much rewritten and cleaned up.
-
- ***
- Name: getnews, postreply
- ftp://ftp.uu.net:/networking/news/readers/off-line/slnr/
-
- Notes: Unix host. SOUP format. Source freely available. Packaged with
- slnr reader.
-
- ***
-
- There's a Linux qwk reader available. I'm not sure if there's a version
- for your system, but the source is available, and porting shouldn't be
- difficult.
- ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/BBS/mail/atp142src.tar.gz
-
- ============ Win95 Software for Offline Readers ==========
-
- I confess to not following Win95 very closely. The following home page
- has several tools for offline reading on Win95. Further submissions are
- welcome:
-
- http://www.itribe.net/virtunix/
-
- Review by ebutcher@ashmount.com:
- Here are the details of Virtual Access a news and mail reader for
- MSWindows 3.x, 95 and NT.
-
- Virtual Access can be found at
- http://www.vamail.com
- http://www.ashmount.com
-
- Brief Feature List of VA:
-
- * Internet access - newsgroups and mail.
- * Multiple services - to serve multiple ISPs or multiple remote
- accounts (Service aliasing)
- * Kill-files & Get-files (excludes unwanted material from Internet
- downloads, selected by name or subject).
- * Connection Scheduler - set up connections for a specific time, or
- when a given number of actions are awaiting upload.
- * Build & Prune Scheduler - perform these administrative tasks
- overnight or at weekends.
- * Mail Rules - sort your incoming mail according to the address or
- the subject.
- * Auto-decoding of incoming Uuencoded and MIME-encoded material.
- * Attach File/Auto Uuencoding or MIME-encoding - now much easier to
- send files across the network, across dial-up services, and beyond.
- * Extensive user configurability.
- * Comms Wizards - to aid the initial configuration of services.
- * New Spelling Checker - no more excuse for speeling misteaks!
-
-
- =====================================================================
- The author of this document is Zhahai Stewart (zstewart@nyx.cs.du.edu),
- with helpful contributions from:
- seb3@gte.com (Steve Belczyk)
- jkilday@nlbbs.com (Jack Kilday)
- mbn@teleport.com (Mike Northam)
- Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG (Russell Schulz)
-
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