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- From: velde@enteract.com (Francois Velde)
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- Subject: [rec.music.early] Newcomers please read: a Netiquette guide
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- Summary: An introduction to rec.music.early and some etiquette guidelines, both general to Usenet and specific to r.m.e.
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- Archive-name: music/early/netiquette-guide
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- Last-modified: 1997/06/24
- URL: http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/netiquet.htm
-
- Beginner's Kit/Etiquette Guide
- -------------------------------
-
- This file is mainly intended for newcomers to the early music
- newsgroup/mailing list. The under-signed wrote it, will try to post it
- regularly, and is of course open to suggestions and corrections.
-
- If you are reading the newsgroups, go to news.announce.newusers first, and
- read the general material there (especially Emily Postnews' guide to
- Netiquette). Some of the advice will duplicated here for extra-emphasis,
- but it is the best general introduction to newsgroups.
-
- ** where am I?
-
- Depending on your personal situation, either reading the Early Music
- mailing list (if messages come to you by e-mail) or the newsgroup
- rec.music.early (if you are using news software). If you are in the latter
- case, always keep in mind that there are folks who do not enjoy the
- benefits of news software, and are reading your posts in a different
- format. Also remember that many folks pay for their access to the wonders
- of the net.
-
- If you have a choice of method, it is probably better for you to read the
- newsgroup than receive the mailing list, which is an imperfect substitute.
- Aside from keeping the general news traffic distinct from your private
- e-mail, a news software typically provides many bells and whistles that
- make reading and responding so much easier. If you pay for your connection
- but have a newsreader that downloads to disk, there is no disadvantage in
- cost. If you pay but can only read news on-line, you may want to consider
- the list instead.
-
- The list and the newsgroup are more or less equivalent: an automatic
- gateway in Vienna, Austria, posts all list messages and sends all posts
- to the list.
-
- If you get EARLYM-L by e-mail, you probably received an automatic mailing
- from the list software (the List Processor) with some beginning "lessons"
- on List Processor commands. Other commands allow you to customize the way
- you receive messages. One option is to receive an entire day's postings
- as a single digest file instead of as they are posted, a useful option
- while on vacation. There are many more options. To get more information
- on List Processor commands, just send the command
-
- "help"
-
- to listserv@wu-wien.ac.at or contact the list administrator at the
- address gonter@wu-wien.ac.at.
-
- NOTE: The list was recently moved from earlym-l@aearn.aco.net to
- earlym-l@wu-wien.ac.at and works now slightly differently.
-
- ** who else is here?
-
- A very diverse bunch of people, academics, professional musicians, amateur
- performers, or just music-lovers, on several continents. Regular and
- occasional contributors number in the few hundreds, the readership probably
- in the thousands, and growing.
-
- (It has been suggested that we have a "bio file" to which people can
- contribute a paragraph about themselves, and which would be available for
- perusal. This doesn't currently exist, but it may soon).
-
- ** Is there a FAQ?
-
- Yes. However, it is under permanent construction. It can be checked out by
- Web browsers at <URL http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/>.
-
- ** what can I do?
-
- Basically four things:
-
- * read other people's posts,
- * reply to them by private e-mail,
- * reply to the whole group by a post, which is sent everywhere,
- * initiate a new thread (i.e., a succession of posts, theoretically on
- the same topic).
-
- The general purpose of the newsgroup is to discuss matters related to Early
- Music. This can be understood in two ways: Classical Western music up to a
- certain date (say, 1750 or 1800), which covers Medieval, Renaissance and
- Baroque mainly. The newsgroup's charter uses the conveniently vague phrase
- "pre-Classical". The other way is music performed with an emphasis on
- authentic instruments, with appropriate techniques. One generic term is HIP
- (historically informed performance). There are H.I. performances of
- post-1750 works (even Brahms or Mahler can be HIPed), which is one reason
- why the boundary between Early Music and other Classical music is fuzzy. In
- fact, where this boundary lies is itself a hot topic of discussion.
-
- A FAQ is currently being written, and it will address those issues in
- greater detail than needed here.
-
- Announcements of concerts, new recordings, new publications, and other
- "commercial" posts are welcome, as long as they are clearly related to
- early music, light on hype, heavy on info, and posted once. Concert
- announcements are encouraged, since many are curious to know what is
- going on even in places far away from them; however, it would be useful
- to include an indication of geographical location (country or state) in
- the subject line.
-
- ** how should I do it?
-
- What you do via e-mail is your concern. When you post, on the other hand,
- this concerns every reader. This newsgroup is not moderated, so anyone can
- post anything they want. With a growing readership, the volume on this
- group is increasing, and some basic rules might help to keep it to a
- manageable level. Here are a few notions of "netiquette", intended as
- guidelines to smooth the process, not as a rigidly enforced code.
-
- to post or not to post
-
- new thread
-
- if you are starting a new thread, or asking for information, remember to
- pause and consider whether this is the appropriate forum. Not that you'll
- be savaged for being in the wrong place, but you may get back less than
- expected. Also, if you are asking for info which is not of general
- interest, add the phrase "Please reply by e-mail." As an incentive, you
- might promise to post a summary.
-
- You may want to check the newsgroup's archive (cf. infra) or DejaNews (cf.
- ibidem) to check whether the information you are seeking hasn't already
- been aired. Check the FAQ as well.
-
- responding
-
- * before responding, read all current articles on the same topic:
- someone may have already answered the question or raised the point,
- sometimes 5 people have already done so.
-
- * will your message interest only the previous poster? If so, private
- e-mail is preferable.
-
- subject line
-
- * if you are responding to a post, the current subject line will be
- used automatically; if the discussion is wandering away from the
- original topic, change the subject line, but try to leave the first
- words of the original subject for those readers who follow threads.
- Ex:
-
-
- Re: countertenors
- vibrato (was Re: countertenors)
-
- * if you are asking for CD recommendations, try to mention it in some
- way in the subject line (e.g., "CD recs"). In fact, we may try to
- develop a system of "labels" or key-words. News software have
- kill-files which allow users to delete messages whose subject lines
- contain certain strings.
-
- One such label has emerged in the past few months. One reader has made
- it a habit of posting limericks, inspired by recent comments or
- current news. The "label" for limericks is "uncouth," for purely
- accidental reasons. If you want to avoid silly limericks, delete all
- posts with that word in the subject line. (That reader is not the only
- one to post limericks, but his talent and prolificacy have earned him
- the title of List Laureate Limericist, or LLL).
-
- * in general, try to be precise and concise: think of those who have to
- wade through dozens of mysteriously-labeled messages.
-
- the message itself
-
- * if you are responding, it may be the case that the body of the
- message you are responding to will be included automatically, preceded
- with a "quote character" like >. The result looks like this:
-
- In article <***> Claudio Monteverdi writes:
- >Prime le parole, doppo la musica.
-
- When the article to which you are responding was already quoting
- someone, the result becomes:
-
- In article <***> Orlando di Lasso writes:
- >In article <***> Claudio Monteverdi writes:
- >>Prime le parole, doppo la musica.
- >Claudio, you don't know beans about music.
-
- In what follows, readers will presume that text preceded by one > was
- written by Orlando, and text preceded by two > by Claudio.
-
- * try to delete what is not directly relevant to your own message, and
- avoid quoting 95 lines of text to add 3 of your own. People will often
- indicate that they have made deletions by inserting:
-
- > [text deleted]
- > [snip, snip]
- > [omitted for brevity]
-
- * do try to make the link with what precedes in the discussion, by
- quoting at least a few lines, or summing up the tenor of the previous
- message (remember that messages do not arrive in the same order at all
- sites, and you may be one of many to post on the same topic).
-
- * keep your line length below 72 or 75 characters. Many screens only
- show 80 and will not wrap; furthermore, each time your message is
- quoted, it is shifted one (sometimes 2 or 3) character to the right.
-
- * sign your message: people like to know who they're talking with.
- (Readers of the mailing list often do not know who wrote what unless
- it is signed, nor can they reply by e-mail rather than post). Many
- software will automatically include the contents of a "signature"
- file. But keep that signature file under 5 lines: the cutest 25-line
- ASCII drawing of a harpsichord tends to wear thin after a while.
-
- ** tunes
-
- Anything pertaining to Early Music is fair game for a new topic. What Early
- Music is, even within the context of this group, is still under debate.
- Keep in mind that some topics are liable to start "flame-wars" (nasty
- episodes where people become angry and hurl e-insults at each other), so
- broach them with great care. One of them is vibrato (is it good, bad,
- authentic, etc). Another is editing unpleasant texts by performers (should
- performers remove offensive material). Yet another is <label>-specific
- performing groups, where <label> is in {ethnic, gender, sexual orientation,
- ...}. A lot of this may seem baffling to non-US readers uncertain about the
- current state of American culture, and they may need to ask a local
- familiar with the territory.
-
- ** ornamentation
-
- When people communicate via screenfuls of text, tempers can flare quickly.
- Each individual has his or her style, but a bit of restraint can go a long
- way. Re-read your post if you have the time. Humor is never in excess
- supply: a well-placed "smiley" can turn a comment from ambiguous to
- innocuous. Don't be afraid to post opinions, but be prepared to see them
- contradicted. Do assert facts, but be gracious when found in error. Try to
- make clear whether you are offering fact or opinion (this may avoid a
- flame-war). Be gentle to newcomers, once you are an old hand (remember, we
- all began somewhere).
-
- ** whither my posts?
-
- To an archive, actually, maintained at the Economics University, Vienna,
- Austria. Everything ever posted to this group since its inception in 1990
- is there, and there are tools to search the archives for the occurrence of
- any string, or download messages by time period. You can access it on the
- Web at <URL http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/earlym-l/>, by Gopher at
- <URL gopher://gopher.wu-wien.ac.at:70/11/.earlym-l>, or by FTP at
- <URL ftp://ftp.wu-wien.ac.at/pub/earlym-l/>.
-
- The Vienna archive technically only contains messages to the EM list. The
- newsgroup itself is archived (like many others) automatically at DejaNews:
- <http://dejanews.com>. The DejaNews database only goes back to March 1995.
-
- ** Miscellaneous
-
- * Spamming
- Spamming is posting the same message to many unrelated newsgroups. The
- message is usually irrelevant to the newsgroups where it appears. This
- happens, either because some firm thinks it's found a free form of
- advertising, or because some nut thinks they've found a free soap-box.
- As the net grows, and more people come on-line, this sort of thing is
- bound to happen. The archetypal event was a posting offering legal
- services by two shysters called Cantor and Siegel, whose names live
- down in infamy. Thousands of irate readers replied to them, stuffing
- their mailbox with purposefully huge e-mails until the system which
- housed their account crashed. This is called mail-bombing, which is
- considered impolite. The Cantor-Siegel incident was much publicized.
-
- Commercial providers of Internet access now have a very good reason to
- lay down extremely strict rules about spamming, since spamming by one
- of their clients can bring down their system and seriously inconvenience
- all their clients (that's why mail-bombing is both impolite and effective).
- If spamming will bring about cancellation of the account, no commercial
- firm has much interest in engaging in such, and commercial spamming will
- remain a rarity. Kook spamming cannot be prevented the same way, it can
- only be repressed, and so it must be endured as a consequence of the
- openness of the Net.
-
- If r.m.e. is spammed, there is no need to follow-up with a post of your
- own telling the world how bad spamming is, or how irrelevant that posting
- is. We all know that. If you have specific and useful information
- ("Here's a phone number to call to contact the sys-admin", "Don't bother,
- the offender's account has already been shut down"), please post it. If
- you want to express your outrage to the poster, reply to him or her; or
- send mail to the sys-admin@or postmaster@ the originating site. You may,
- however, rest assured that many thousands of other users will have already
- sent e-mail.
-
- --
- Francois Velde
- velde@heraldica.org
-