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Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!dreaderd!not-for-mail Message-ID: <movies/terminator-faq_1077959255@rtfm.mit.edu> Supersedes: <movies/terminator-faq_1070108471@rtfm.mit.edu> Expires: 11 Jun 2004 09:07:35 GMT From: kloepel@connect.ab.ca (Karsten A. Loepelmann) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.answers,news.answers Subject: The Terminator/T2 Judgment Day/T2 3-D Battle Across Time FAQList v.3.01 Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies Reply-To: kloepel@connect.ab.ca Organization: Cyberdyne Systems Summary: This posting contains a list of answers to frequently asked questions about the films The Terminator and Terminator 2 Judgment Day, and T2 3-D: Battle Across Time Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu X-Last-Updated: 1997/07/01 Originator: faqserv@penguin-lust.MIT.EDU Date: 28 Feb 2004 09:08:31 GMT Lines: 2497 NNTP-Posting-Host: penguin-lust.mit.edu X-Trace: 1077959311 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 557 18.181.0.29 Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu rec.arts.sf.movies:169433 rec.answers:85627 news.answers:267164 Archive-name: movies/terminator-faq Posting-Frequency: quarterly Version: 3.01 The Terminator Terminator 2: Judgment Day T2 3-D: Battle Across Time FAQList compiled and maintained by Karsten A. Loepelmann <kloepel@connect.ab.ca> Version 3.01 Last updated: July 1, 1997 This FAQList is copyright 1997 by Karsten A. Loepelmann. All rights reserved. Permission is granted for reproduction, distribution, transmission, or storage for noncommercial purposes only, on the condition that the contents are not changed in any way. Permission for any other use or distribution of this FAQList must be obtained from the rights holder, Karsten A. Loepelmann. All trademarks herein are acknowledged as the property of their respective owners. T2(tm) and Terminator(tm) are copyright 1997, and registered trademarks of Carolco Pictures Inc. (U.S. & Canada) and Carolco International Inc. (all other countries). Posted quarterly to: news:alt.answers news:alt.cult-movies news:rec.answers news:rec.arts.sf.movies news:news.answers ----------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents (*) indicates that the answer has been modified since the last revision of this FAQ (v. 3.00) (+) indicates a new question 0.0 Introduction * 0.1 Internet resources 0.2 Questions that need answering 1.0 What are the different movie versions? 1.1 _The Terminator_ * 1.2 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ 1.2.1 Why were there scenes cut out of T2? 1.2.2 What scenes were added to the T2 Special Edition? 1.2.3 What is the missing ending? 1.2.4 Other cut scenes 1.3 _Terminator 2: 3-D_ (aka T2 3-D: Battle Across Time) 2.0 What original motion picture soundtracks are available? 2.1 The Terminator 2.2 T2 2.2.1 What songs in the movie are not on the T2 soundtrack? 3.0 What are the filmographies of some of the people involved with T2? * 3.1 James Cameron * 3.2 Arnold Schwarzenegger 3.3 Linda Hamilton * 3.4 Robert Patrick 4.0 Plot questions * 4.1 What year does T2 take place? 4.2 Why does it take the T-1000 so long to show up at John's house in Reseda? 4.3 Why doesn't the security guard at Pescadero State Hospital notice the T-1000 on the floor? 4.4 Does the T-1000 have to touch the object it takes the form of? 4.5 Why does the T-1000 change back to the policeman at Pescadero State Hospital? 4.6 Why does the orderly in Pescadero State Hospital lick Sarah's face? 4.7 If dogs are used to identify Terminators, why doesn't the dog at the desert hideout bark at the Terminator? 4.8 Why does Sarah carve the words "NO FATE"? 4.9 Why doesn't Sarah kill Dyson? 4.10 What parts of the police officer does the T-1000 duplicate? 4.11 Why doesn't the T-1000 try to imitate Dyson and develop Skynet itself? 4.12 Does the T-1000 have a third arm when it is flying the helicopter? 4.13 What is that "ripple" that goes through the T-1000? 4.14 Why does the T-1000 take the shape of Sarah instead of the Terminator? 4.15 Why does the T-1000 try to get Sarah to call to John? 4.16 If the T-1000 is destroyed when it falls into the molten steel, why wasn't it destroyed when the semi tow-truck blew up? 4.17 Why doesn't the Terminator "disappear" when John throws the CPU into the molten steel? 4.18 Isn't the Terminator's arm being left behind in the huge gear going to lead to the creation of Skynet anyway? 4.19 When the T-1000 is on top of the elevator in Pescadero State Hospital, why doesn't it just cut the cables? 4.20 What is the make and model of the Terminator? 4.21 What about [insert continuity glitch here]? 5.0 Trivia 5.1 Who was originally cast as the Terminator? 5.2 How many lines did Arnold have in T1? 5.3 What is Harlan Ellison's connection to the Terminator movies? 5.4 What is the "crushing foot" motif? 5.5 Is "judgment" spelled correctly? 5.6 How did Linda Hamilton prepare for T2? 5.7 Does Linda Hamilton have a twin sister who appeared in T2? 5.8 What hardware/software was used to produce some of the FX in T2? 5.9 What machine code is displayed on the Terminator's visual display? 5.10 What is the literal translation of "Schwarzenegger"? * 5.11 What does "Hasta la vista" mean? 5.12 Did the movies win any Academy Awards? 5.13 How much money did T2 make? 5.14 Is there a real Cyberdyne Systems and Skynet? 5.15 What is "Benthic Petroleum"? 5.16 What sunglasses did the Terminator and Sarah wear? 5.17 Where can I get a video parody of T2? * 5.18 What are some of the weapons used in T2? 5.18.1 When the Terminator was firing the big machine gun in the Cyberdyne lab, is the bullet belt moving or not? 5.19 What kind of motorcycle was used in T2? 5.20 Miscellaneous trivia 6.0 Time travel questions 6.1 How did the (liquid *metal*) T-1000 travel to the past? Didn't they destroy the time machine? 6.2 How can Skynet exist if the chip and arm were destroyed? 6.3 If John gave a speech to Reese in 2029, who gave it to Sarah and conceived John in 1984, and then Sarah told it to John, then who *wrote* the bloody speech? 6.4 What are some good related SF time-travel stories? 7.0 What Terminator books and comics are there? 7.1 Terminator books 7.2 Now Comics 7.2.1 _The Terminator_ 7.2.2 _The Terminator: The Burning Earth_ 7.2.3 _The Terminator: All My Futures Past_ 7.3 Dark Horse Comics 7.3.1 _The Terminator: Tempest_ 7.3.2 _The Terminator: One Shot_ 7.3.3 _The Terminator: Secondary Objectives_ 7.3.4 _The Terminator: The Enemy Within_ 7.3.5 _The Terminator: Hunters & Killers_ 7.3.6 _The Terminator: Endgame_ 7.3.7 _RoboCop Versus The Terminator_ 7.4 Marvel Comics 7.5 Malibu Comics 7.5.1 _T2: Cybernetic Dawn_ (aka "Present War") 7.5.2 _T2: Nuclear Twilight_ (aka "Future War") 8.0 What Terminator computer/video games are there? 8.1 Arcade Games 8.1.1 T2: The Arcade Game 8.1.2 T2 Pinball 8.2 Computer Games 8.2.1 The Terminator 8.2.2 T2 8.2.3 T2: The Arcade Game 8.2.4 T2: Judgment Day Chess Wars 8.2.5 The Terminator 2029 8.2.6 The Terminator 2029: Operation Scour 8.2.7 The Terminator: Rampage * 8.2.8 The Terminator: Future Shock * 8.2.9 The Terminator: Skynet 8.3 Console Games 8.3.1 The Terminator 8.3.2 T2: The Arcade Game 8.3.3 Robocop vs. the Terminator 8.4 Miscellaneous Games 8.4.1 T2 Handheld * 8.5 Miscellaneous Software * 9.0 Will there be a _Terminator 3_ movie? * 9.1 What is the _Terminator 3: Armageddon_ script? * 10.0 Credits * 10.1 Bibliography ============================================================ Abbreviations: JC == James Cameron LBX == letterbox LD == laserdisc SE == Special Edition (T2 boxed set) T1 == _The Terminator_ film T2 == _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ film T2: 3-D == Terminator 2: 3-D attraction at Universal Studios Florida T-1000 == the "liquid metal" Terminator in T2 T-800 or Terminator == Arnold's character (look for the context to define the movie/Terminator to which this refers); see section 4.20 for more. ================ 0.0 Introduction ================ This Frequently Asked Questions list is based largely on the T2 FAQ compiled by Doug Fierro, last dated 11/10/91. (Doug's email address is dead--Doug, are you out there?) That's why I numbered the initial release of this FAQ version 2.0. Due to constant demand for information on the Terminator films, the FAQ has been resurrected. Contributions/discussion are welcome! The preferred forum for discussion is news:rec.arts.sf.movies In the section on time travel, there are probably no absolute right or wrong answers--except as far as real-world physics can be applied to the virtual world of the Terminator films. I'm *not* looking for alternate ideas about time travel, thank you very much. I'm just trying to explain the logic underlying what happens in the Terminator films. *Everyone* has an opinion (read: theory) about time travel. Try reading news:alt.sci.time-travel and you'll see...! If you want to contribute something and start out by writing, "I know someone who knows this guy who met JC's gardener once, and *she* says that JC says that..." Well, I probably won't read much further than that. If you cite a reference to info that you provide, your credibility will be that much higher. (I'm not anally retentive. It's just that this is supposed to be an information file, not a *mis*information file. ;-) If you want to make sure I get your input, send email to my address at the top of this FAQList. Sorry, but I can't answer *everyone*'s questions. This FAQList has recently undergone a massive overhaul, for a number of reasons. Among the wealth of new information is a ton of stuff about the new _T2: 3-D_ experience at Universal Studios Florida. (Yes, I've been there--and yes, it's a lot of fun!) * * * I humbly note that this FAQList has been awarded a Magellan "3-Star" rating by the McKinley Group, who produce the Magellan Internet Guide, an index of over 2 million sites and more than 40,000 reviews. See them at: http://www.mckinley.com/ * * * Also, the Terminator website and this FAQList have been named a "HotSpot" by GameSpot. Check out GameSpot at: http://www.gamespot.com/ Plug: I am also the FAQ-keeper for the game Star Wars: Dark Forces! See: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~kloepel/df.htm -KAL 0.1 Internet resources ---------------------- This FAQList is also available in HTML format on the World-Wide Web (WWW). Note that the URL has recently been changed to: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6601/index.html I am co-maintainer of this Terminator website along with Jesse Harris Nice <Atreides+@CMU.EDU>, who is currently serving in the USNavy. If you're a Terminator fan, this site is highly recommended (if I do say so myself)! It has sounds, pictures, movies, scripts, and links to Terminator info. Ross Chandler <chandler@maths.tcd.ie> originated this Terminator website, and gave the FAQList a home in the beginning (thanks, Ross!). Here are some other Terminator-related sites you may wish to visit: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~haakonhj/Terminator/ http://www.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Movies_and_Films/Titles/ Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/Terminator_Terminator_2/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/tv.film/Terminator_II/ http://www.moviesounds.com/t2.html http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1158/termnatr.html 0.2 Questions that need answering --------------------------------- ** Does anyone have the novelization of _The Terminator_ for sale? ** Do you have any info on T2 3-D: Battle Across Time? (I am especially looking for pictures, sounds, and magazine articles that are not in the references (section 10.1).) ** Does anyone have a complete list of all the Terminator action figures? ========================================== 1.0 What are the different movie versions? ========================================== 1.1 _The Terminator_ -------------------- Producer: Gale Anne Hurd Cinematography: Adam Greenberg Production design: James Cameron Art director: George Costello Editing: Mark Goldblatt Written by: Gale Anne Hurd and James Cameron Director: James Cameron Released in North America: 26 October, 1984. For more information, see the Internet Movie Database at: http://us.imdb.com/M/title-exact?Terminator%2C+The+%281984%29 As far as I know, there is only one cut of T1, available in a few different formats. It is available on VHS videocassette in regular or letterbox format, and on LD (all approximately 108 minutes, rated R). The following post appeared on Usenet, regarding scenes cut out of _The Terminator_: Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies Subject: Re: T2 SE was (ALIENS: Special Edition) From: john connor <john@connor.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:17:44 +0200 Only two scenes were cut : The dying black officer giving his car keys and guns to Reese during the police precinct massacre, (I have a pic of that) and a pan up to the factory facade when Sarah is being put in the ambulance, revealing it to be CYBERDYNE. This person obviously did not sign it with their real name, so YMMV. For information on ordering a video on the making of _The Terminator_, see: http://www.cummingsvideo.com/home/term1.htm 1.2 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ -------------------------------- Producer: James Cameron Cinematography: Adam Greenberg Production design: Joseph Nemec III Editing: Conrad Buff IV, Mark Goldblatt, and Richard A. Harris Written by: James Cameron and William Wisher Director: James Cameron Released in North America: 3 July, 1991. For more information, see the Internet Movie Database at: http://us.imdb.com/M/title-exact?Terminator+2%3A+Judgment+Day+%281991%29 There are a whole raft of different versions of T2 available now. You got your pan-'n'scan LD, your LBX (letterboxed) LD, your pan-'n'-scan VHS, your LBX VHS, your SE LBX,... The Terminator Collection SE LD boxed set (with a hologram on the front) contains: 1) The Terminator: letterboxed with no additional footage. 108 minutes. 2) Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Letterboxed with no additional footage; it is as it appears in theaters. 139 minutes. 3) A tape with two documentaries: _The Making of The Terminator_ and _The Making of Terminator 2: Judgment Day_. (Were these shown on the US pay channel Showtime?) This also has all of the trailers for both movies (one for T1 and three for T2). 57 minutes. 4) A limited-edition 24-page book containing information/trivia about the making of the Terminator films as well as storyboards, drawings and other photographs. The Special Edition from Carolco Home Video, put together jointly by Carolco, Live Home Video, Showtime, Lightstorm Entertainment, and Pioneer. This set comes in a 1'x1'x1" black box with "SCHWARZENEGGER" and "TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY" in big red foil letters, and "SPECIAL EDITION" in blue lettering. The box contains two cassettes: 1) The SE LBX version of T2 with all but two scenes added (see below). Running time is approximately 152 minutes. The film is not rated. 2) The second cassette is the _Special Edition Supplement_. It contains a discussion of the deleted scenes with all the actors and JC. Following this 20-minute film are the omitted scenes (the alternate ending and the T-1000 searching young John Connor's bedroom), three trailers from the movie, and the trailer for the release of the special edition of the LD. Running time for this cassette is approximately 40 minutes. Not rated. There is a VHS "boxed set" of both films in pan-'n'-scan format. It comes in a silver box, containing: 1) _The Terminator_, approximately 108 minutes, rated R. 2) _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_, approximately 139 minutes; not rated. There is a VHS "boxed set" of both films in letterbox format. It comes comes in a gold box, containing: 1) _The Terminator_, approximately 108 minutes; rated R. 2) _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_, approximately 139 minutes; not rated. Lastly, T2 is also available in Video CD format on 2 normal CD-ROMs with the video compressed in MPEG-1 format at a resolution of 352x240. 1.2.1 Why were there scenes cut out of T2? ------------------------------------------ Certain scenes were edited out of the theatrical release of T2. According to the _Annotated Screenplay_, some scenes slowed the pace of the film; others repeated previously shown information; others were changed for dramatic effect. Theses scenes include Sarah opening up the Terminator's head and adjusting the CPU, Sarah's dream sequence with Kyle Reese, and the legendary extended ending (see section 1.2.3 for more). In the video accompanying the SE, Cameron explains that the scene with the T-1000 searching the room was a "classic example of underestimating the audience." He thought it wasn't necessary to have yet *another* scene explaining that the T-1000 "molecularly samples" everything it touches. An interview with JC was shown on the TV special _Secrets Revealed_ (hosted by William Devane!): "Well, 'final cut' really doesn't change anything. You still have to do what's best for the film--and a lot of people have opinions about what's best for the film. And, as a responsible filmmaker, you have to listen to them. "In the opening of the film, we see a playground after a nuclear war, where all the playground equipment has been burned and blackened. And then the ending was to show the 'alternate future' that came about as a result of the efforts of Sarah and John. And then when we put the movie together, and sat and watched it, it just felt a little too...'sweet.' It's essentially the movie of the script. But no movie is ever the movie of the script--the script is what you start with when you start the voyage, and when you end the voyage, you may be somewhere else. "So we took the ending off and we went to the dark road, kind of going into darkness--the uncertain future...and that seemed to work better. "We did screen it once, with the happier ending--because we had already raised the question to ourselves: 'Is this *really* the right thing?' And the audience seemed to concur. So we all looked at each other and went, 'Aha! See? Eh?' So we very quickly whipped together the alternate, which I'd already had in mind. "Sometimes, in that pressure-cooker of finishing the picture, the most instinctive responses are the best. And that's really what happened there; it was just instinct." 1.2.2 What scenes were added to the T2 Special Edition? ------------------------------------------------------- Although some scenes were cut from the theatrical release of T2, many were restored in the Special Edition. These are described below. Two long scenes were not included in the SE, but were appended to the supplemental tape. One is the alternate ending "Future Coda" (scene 215; see section 1.2.3), the other is scenes 56/56A. For scene numbers, I've followed the convention in the _Annotated Screenplay_; the placement of added scenes may not necessarily match that of the SE. [I've reduced this section from sections of full-blown script to mere descriptions for a few reasons: it took too much space; the SE is widely available; and the _Annotated Screenplay_ contains full scripts.] **** CAUTION: Major spoilers for the Special Edition ahead **** Scene 23: Pescadero ------------------- In the hallway of the Pescadero Mental Institution. Dr. Silberman has just finished showing Sarah Connor to some other doctors. He asks Douglas and another unnamed attendant to make sure Sarah takes her Thorazine. Theatrical release: Cut to T-1000 patrol car pulling up at John's foster parents' home. Special Edition: Cut to Silberman walking away. Douglas and partner enter Connor's room. Dougie and his partner administer Sarah her medication in their own (violent) way. --Total time: 1:00 Scene 29: Dream sequence ------------------------ John Connor relates to his friend Tim how his mom is a loser. They ride off to spend the money. Cut to Terminator pulling up on his bike. Theatrical Release: Cut to Dr. Silberman and Sarah watching an old videotape of Sarah describing a recurring dream of nuclear Judgment Day. Special Edition: Cut to Sarah sitting on her bed in her cell. Sarah has a fever dream of meeting Kyle, who gives her further inspiration. She follows him down the hall and finds herself looking into a playground, the Terminator by her side. Suddenly, a nuclear explosion hits, obliterating everything, and turning the Terminator into a smoking endoskeleton. Sarah then wakes up in her cell. --Total time: 3:21 Scene 54: Max ------------- At the house of John's foster parents, Janelle changes into the T-1000. Theatrical Release: Cut to officers showing Sarah pictures taken of Terminator at mall. Special Edition: Cut to T-1000 leaving John's foster parents' home. Kills the dog and reads "MAX" on its collar. --Total time: 0:30 Scenes 56 and 56A: Room scan ---------------------------- T-1000 passes the bathroom where Janelle is lying dead in the shower. It searches John's room, touching everything gently with his fingertips. It touches a Public Enemy poster, rips it off the wall and finds a box with "Letters from Mom" written on it. It goes through a bunch of photos in the box. --Total time: 1:25 Scenes 87 to 89C: Chip flip --------------------------- At the abandoned garage. John asks the Terminator whether he can be more human. Theatrical Release: The Terminator tells John that his CPU is a neural net processor. Special Edition: Sarah and John "operate" on the Terminator, removing his CPU. Sarah wants to destroy it, but John asserts himself and stops her. They switch the CPU to "read-and-write" mode. --Time of deleted scene: 0:10 --Time of added scenes: 3:32 Scenes 96A to 97: Learning to smile ----------------------------------- Sarah, John, and "Uncle Bob" pull the station wagon into a gas station; steam is coming out of radiator. Theatrical Release: Cut to Sarah chewing on a burger, Terminator pouring water into the radiator. Special Edition: John tries to teach Terminator how to smile, with mixed results. Cut to Sarah chewing on a burger. --Total time of added scenes: 1:17 Scene 99: Dyson at home ----------------------- Terminator is telling Sarah about Dyson, who developed the Skynet technology. Theatrical Release: Cut to station wagon pulling up at Enrique's ranch. Special Edition: Miles tells Tarissa about his new processor; she convinces him to spend some time with their two kids to Raging Waters. --Total time of added scene: 2:20 Scenes A105 to A106: Salceda's Ranch ------------------------------------ Enrique shows Sarah the truck that needs a new starter. Theatrical Release: Cut to Arnold pulling dust cover off chain gun. Special Edition: Sarah tells Enrique to leave his ranch after they leave. As the Terminator selects weapons, John tells him about his life growing up. --Total time of deleted scenes: 0:14 --Total time of added scenes: 1:44 Scene A123: John ---------------- John and Terminator are trying to prevent Sarah from killing Dyson. Theatrical Release: Cut to toy truck in Dyson's home. Special Edition: John tells the Terminator the importance of human feelings. --Total time: 0:48 Scenes 148A to 148C: Sledgehammer --------------------------------- T-1000 is at Dyson's home, hears that Sarah Conner is at Cyberdyne. Theatrical Release: Cut to police cars pulling up at Cyberdyne. Special Edition: Miles helps destroy everything in his lab, including smashing the neural net prototype with an axe. --Total time: 0:30 Scenes 203A to 203C and 209A: T-1000 bugs ----------------------------------------- After the T-1000 is shattered by the Terminator, we see that it's beginning to lose control of its morphing. Its hand takes on black and yellow stripes when it grabs a black and yellow striped railing, and its feet squish and morph into the steel floor pattern on each step. When it morphs into Sarah Connor, John looks down and sees that the T-1000/Connor's feet have melded into the steel floor right before the real Connor begins blasting away at it. 1.2.3 What is the missing ending? --------------------------------- The alternate ending (known as the "Future Coda") is available with the SE version of T2. It is *not* edited into the film, but is shown in a separate segment. JC explains why the Future Coda never made it: "But there was a sense that, why tie it up with a bow? If the future *is* changeable, then the battle is something that has to be fought continuously. And you can't do it with a single stroke. That it's the dualism, the dynamic between good and evil that's eternal." Here is my transcript of the alternate ending, scene 215: [After the Terminator sinks into the molten steel, Sarah holds John and looks into the camera. NOTE: This shot is common to both versions. What follows was cut from the theatrical release.] Fade to shot of the sun. Begin voiceover as the camera pans down. It is Washington, DC; the capitol is in the background, as are several futuristic buildings. Pan down to long shot of a park with a fountain and a playground. SARAH (V.O.) August 29th, 1997 came and went. Nothing much happened. Michael Jackson turned *forty*. There was *no* "judgment day." Cut to medium shot of a recreational area around the fountain. Pan down and across children in the playground to a well-dressed older woman speaking the narration into a small recording device. SARAH People went to work as they always do. Laughed. Complained. Watched TV. Made love. I wanted to run through the street yelling, to grab them all and say, "Every day from this day on is a *gift*. Use it well." Instead, I got drunk. That was thirty years ago. But the dark future which never came still exists for me. And it always will--like the traces of a dream. Cut to a shot of an adult John Connor, pushing a little girl on a swing in the playground. SARAH (V.O.) John fights the war differently than it was foretold. Here, on the battlefield of the Senate, his weapons are common sense-- Cut to a closeup of Sarah, watching John and the little girl. SARAH --and hope. Cut to a shot of the little girl running. GIRL Tie me, gramma! Tie me! Cut to a medium shot of the girl climbing up onto the bench beside Sarah, who ties her granddaughters' shoe. Cut to a closeup of the little girl as she looks up at Sarah and giggles. Cut to a medium shot of the two. SARAH How's that? Cut to a shot of the girl. GIRL Thank you, gramma. Cut to a shot of the two; Sarah leans down and gives the girl a kiss. The girl runs back to the playground. Cut to a shot of the girl running into John's arms. The two embrace, then John helps her onto a slide. SARAH (V.O.) The luxury of hope was given to me by the Terminator. Because if a machine can learn the value of human life-- Cut to a shot of Sarah, smiling, watching the children. SARAH (V.O.) --maybe we can, too. Fade to black. 1.2.4 Other cut scenes ---------------------- The _Annotated Screenplay_ also contains six omitted sequences that were not filmed, for various reasons noted below: Extended Future War Sequence ---------------------------- These scenes show more of the fight against Skynet in the future. This sequence was deleted due to its prohibitive cost, and because it was deemed tangential to the story. Most significant are the scenes showing an adult John Connor sending Kyle Reese to the past. Sarah's E.C.T. Sequence ----------------------- This sequence was intended to illustrate the direness of Sarah's situation, which was adequately established with other scenes. I'm glad these scenes were cut: electroconvulsive shock therapy is only used as a treatment in *extreme* cases of depression--which Sarah clearly did not exhibit. Missile Dream Sequence ---------------------- In an early draft, Sarah experiences two nuclear nightmares; this is the second. After falling asleep at Salceda's ranch, Sarah's dream of children playing in a park turns into a nightmare as underground silos open, and the missiles inside are launched. These scenes were cut because JC thought that a single nuclear nightmare was more powerful than two. Salceda's Death Sequence ------------------------ Although the scenes in which the T-1000 goes to Salceda's ranch looking for John were scheduled for the first week of principal photography, they were not filmed because they were deemed redundant and costly. This sequence is notable for the scene in which the T-1000's head is blown off, the mouth gulps "like a gaffed fish," and the head is reabsorbed into the T-1000's body. Gant Ranch Sequence ------------------- Travis Gant is the "crazy ex-Green Beret" John refers to in the film. This sequence was rewritten and later comprised the Salceda ranch sequences. (Salceda's first incarnation was as one of Gant's men. The kewlest scene has Sarah proving to Gant that Terminator really exist, by taking a .45 automatic and shooting the Terminator in the head--twice! Terminator, unperturbed, responds to this rather rude treatment by saying, "No problemo." Dyson's Vision Sequence ----------------------- Miles Dyson's death was initially intended to be a bit more poetic. He has a vision of his family and knows that for them to have a chance at survival, he must destroy his life's work--and himself. 1.3 _Terminator 2: 3-D_ (aka _T2 3-D: Battle Across Time_) ----------------------------------------------------------- T2: 3-D is a sequel (of sorts) to T2 with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Robert Patrick, and Edward Furlong, titled _Terminator 2 3-D: Battle Across Time_. This attraction is at Universal Studios Florida only. See the website at: http://www.usf.com/ Producers: Chuck Comisky, Andrew Millstein Cinematography: Peter Anderson (II) [3-D], Russell Carpenter [live-action], Russ Lyster [effects] Production Design: John Muto Film Editing: David Bartholomew, Shannon Leigh-Olds Music: Brad Fiedel Written by: James Cameron, Gary Goddard, & Adam Bezark Directors: John Bruno, James Cameron, & Stan Winston Cast (in credits order) Arnold Schwarzenegger: Terminator Linda Hamilton: Sarah Connor Robert Patrick: T-1000 Edward Furlong: John Connor From _Gamefan_ magazine: THE ATTRACTION * The 3-D film utilized in the attraction is approximately 10 minutes long and was directed by _Terminator_ creator and director James Cameron. * The 10-minute film features all-new footage shot exclusively for the _Terminator 2 - 3-D_ attraction. Production took place in a deserted steel mill in Fontana, California, taking over two weeks of all-night shooting. * Computer graphics house Digital Domain, whose special effects work can be seen in _Jurassic Park_ and _Apollo 13_, created all of the digital composite imagery in the film. THE FILM PROJECTION SYSTEM * Three-dimensional images are projected on three separate screens, in a way never seen before, surrounding guests with 180 degrees of in-your-face excitement. * Each of the three projection screens located within the attraction measure 23 feet high by 50 feet long. * Six fully automated 70mm film projectors are required to create the 3-D images that will reach off the screen and into the audience. THE AUDIO SYSTEM * The _Terminator 2 - 3-D_ attraction features a state-of-the-art sound system created by Soundelux that pumps a total of 45,620 Watts through 141 speakers. it is the most technically advanced system in the world and serves as a showplace for audiophiles across the globe. * All processing gear for the attraction's audio system are found within one master computer system. All connections and configurations are made on-screen utilizing computer software that has never been seen before. * The audio computer system allows audio engineers to modify and construct new audio configurations simply by drawing them on a computer screen instead of the time-consuming re-wiring required by a conventional system. THE T2 3-D CINEBOTIC FIGURES * Originally, Universal Studios planned to feature in the attraction the T-800 chrome endoskeletons seen in the _Terminator 2_ motion picture. However, after consulting with director James Cameron, they discovered that the T-800s come from the future (around 2029) and therefore could not exist in the attraction in the present day. As a result, Cameron designed, exclusively for this attraction, the T-70 robot, a totally new, more primitive series of the mechanical soldier. For more information, see the Internet Movie Database at: http://us.imdb.com/M/title-exact?Terminator+2%3A+3-D+%281996%29 Or read the _Wired_ magazine interview with JC in issue 4.04 at: http://www.wired.com/4.04/cameron The following is a spoiler for T2: 3-D. *DON'T* read it if you don't want to know what happens! *** SPOILER WARNING *** Summary written by Dave Harling <dave.harling@ingram.com>: The audience [is invited] to a presentation of future technology by the Cyberdyne Corporation; creators of the present T-70s and future creator of Skynet. Unfortunately, half-way through the presentation, they are sabotaged (live) by Sarah and John Connor, who inform us of the future doom Cyberdyne will unknowingly bring to the world. The audience is soon joined by the T-1000 as well as Arnold's T-800 on stage via motorcycle. The T-800 grabs John and exits the stage via a 3-D time portal, quickly pursued by the T-1000. From there it is all 3-D movie magic in which the T-800 and John Connor must defeat Skynet, which is guarded by the powerful T-1,000,000. *** END OF SPOILER *** The Sci-Fi Channel (and, later, The Learning Channel) aired _The Making of Terminator 2 3D_. Although this program is not available for sale on video, the Sci-Fi Channel's website has some T2: 3-D info: http://www.scifi.com/cameron/index.html =========================================================== 2.0 What original motion picture soundtracks are available? =========================================================== 2.1 The Terminator ------------------ _The Terminator Original Soundtrack_. DCC Compact Classics DZS-058. Total playing time is 35:39. Music composed, performed, and produced by Brad Fiedel (6 tracks). There are 5 additional rock songs from the film included. If you're into early 1980s synth-pop, you'll love this CD. _The Terminator--The Definitive Edition_. Edel 0029022EDL. Total playing time is 72:15. Music composed, performed, and produced by Brad Fiedel (19 tracks). This CD was supervised and sequenced by Ford A. Thaxton <FordaT@aol.com>, who posts to news:rec.music.movies. This disc contains none of the pop songs; instead, it has tons of Fiedel's original score. If you're into early 1980s synth-movie scores, you'll love this CD. 2.2 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ --------------------------------- _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_, Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. Varese Sarabande VSD-5335. Total playing time is 53:45. Music composed and produced by Brad Fiedel (20 tracks). This CD contains all-orchestral music, with no pop songs. 2.2.1 What songs in the movie are not on the T2 soundtrack? ----------------------------------------------------------- There are three songs. One is "Guitars, Cadillacs" written and performed by Dwight Yoakam (played in the bar where the Terminator gets his clothes). Another is "Bad to the Bone" written by George Thorogood, performed by George Thorogood and the Destroyers (played when the Terminator walks out of the bar). And finally, "You Could be Mine" written by Izzy Stradlin and W. Axl Rose, performed by Guns 'n' Roses. The latter song was written especially for T2; the former two were not. "You Could Be Mine" appears on _Use Your Illusion II_ (Geffen GEFD-24420). "Bad To the Bone" lives on the album _Bad To The Bone_ and also the compilation _The George Thorogood Collection_ (EMI CDP 7924152). ====================================================================== 3.0 What are the filmographies of some of the people involved with T2? ====================================================================== 3.1 James Cameron ----------------- Titanic (1997) [Director] [Writer] Terminator 2: 3-D (1996) [Director] [Writer] (aka T2 3-D: Battle Across Time) Strange Days (1995) [Writer (also story)] [Producer] True Lies (1994) [Director] [Writer] [Producer] Point Break (1991) [Producer (executive)] [Writer (uncredited)] Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [Director] [Co-writer with William Wisher] [Producer] Abyss, The (1989) [Director] [Writer] Aliens (1986) [Director] [Writer (story)] Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) [Co-writer with Sylvester Stallone] Terminator, The (1984) [Director] [Co-writer with Gale Anne Hurd] Android (1982) [Miscellaneous crew (design consultant)] Freedom (1982) [Actor .... John Doniger] Escape from New York (1981) [Miscellaneous crew (matte artwork) (special effects director of photography)] Galaxy of Terror (1981) [Production Designer] (aka Mindwarp: An Infinity of Terror, aka Planet of Horrors) Piranha II: The Spawning (1981) [Director] [Writer (script)] (aka Piranha II: Flying Killers) Battle Beyond the Stars (1980) [Miscellaneous crew (art director)] For more information, see the Internet Movie Database: http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?Cameron,%20James 3.2 Arnold Schwarzenegger ------------------------- As an actor: On Wings As Eagles (1998) Batman & Robin (1997) [Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze] Jingle All the Way (1996) [Howard Langston] Terminator 2: 3-D (1996) [The Terminator] (aka T2 3-D: Battle Across Time) Eraser (1996) [John Kruger, the Eraser] Sinatra: 80 Years My Way (1995) (TV) [himself] Junior (1994) [Dr Alex Hesse] True Lies (1994) [Harry Tasker] Dave (1993) [himself] Last Action Hero (1993) [Jack Slater, himself] Last Party, The (1993) [himself] Lincoln (TV) (1992) [Voice of John G. Nicolay] Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [The Terminator] Kindergarten Cop (1990) [John Kimble] Total Recall (1990) [Douglas Quaid/Hauser] Red Heat (1988) [Ivan Danko] Twins (1988) [Julius Benedict] Predator (1987) [Dutch] Running Man, The (1987) [Ben Richards] Raw Deal (1986) [Mark Kaminski/Joseph P. Brenner] Commando (1985) [John Matrix] Red Sonja (1985) [Kalidor] Conan the Destroyer (1984) [Conan] Terminator, The (1984) [The Terminator] Conan the Barbarian (1981) [Conan] Jayne Mansfield Story, The (TV) (1980) [Mickey Hargitay] Scavenger Hunt (1979) Villain, The (1979) [Handsome Stranger] Pumping Iron (1977) [himself] Stay Hungry (1976) [Joe Santo] Long Goodbye, The (1973) [uncredited] Hercules in New York (1970) [Hercules; Note: as "Arnold Strong"] For more information, see the Internet Movie Database: http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?Schwarzenegger,%20Arnold or, see Arnold's official (!) website: http://www.schwarzenegger.com 3.3 Linda Hamilton ------------------ Actress filmography: Dante's Peak (1997) [Rachel Nando] The Shadow Conspiracy (1996) [Amanda Givens] (aka The Shadow Program) Terminator 2: 3-D (1996) [Sarah Connor] (aka T2 3-D: Battle Across Time) A Mother's Prayer (TV) (1995) [Rosemary Holmstrom] Separate Lives (1994) [Lauren Porter] Silent Fall (1994) [Karen Rainer] Frasier (TV) (1993) [Claire (guest caller)] Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [Sarah Connor] Mr. Destiny (1990) [Ellen Burrows] Go to the Light (TV) (1988) Beauty and the Beast (TV series) (1987) [Catherine Chandler] Black Moon Rising (1986) [Nina] Club Med (TV) (1986) [Kate] King Kong Lives (1986) [Amy Franklin] Secret Weapons (TV) (1985) [Elena Koslov] (aka Secrets of the Red Bedroom, aka Sexpionage) Children of the Corn (1984) [Vicky] The Stone Boy (1984) [Eva, Crescent Moon Lady] The Terminator (1984) [Sarah Connor] Secrets of a Mother and Daughter (TV) (1983) [Susan Decker] King's Crossing (TV series) (1982) [Lauren] Country Gold (TV) (1982) [Josie Greenwood] Tag: The Assassination Game (1982) [Susan Swayze] Secrets of Midland Heights (TV series) (1980) [Lisa Rogers] Rape and Marriage: The Rideout Case (TV) (1980) Reunion (1980) (TV) (1980) For more information, see the Internet Movie Database: http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?Hamilton,%20Linda 3.4 Robert Patrick ------------------ Actor filmography: CopLand (1997) Hacks (1997) Only Thrill, The (1997) [Tom] (aka Tenessee Valley) Rosewood (1997) The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest (TV series) (1996) [Race Bannon] Asylum (1996) [Nick Tordone] Striptease (1996) [Darrel Grant] Terminator 2: 3-D (1996) [T-1000] (aka T2 3-D: Battle Across Time) The Outer Limits (TV) (1995) [Skokes] Body Language (TV) (1995) [Delbert Radley] Decoy (1995) [Travis] Last Gasp (1995) [Leslie Chase] The Cool Surface (1994) [Jarvis Scott] Hong Kong '97 (1994) [Reginald Cameron] Zero Tolerance (1994) [Jeff] Body Shot (1993) [Mickey Dane] Double Dragon (1993) [Koga Shuko] (aka Double Dragon: The Movie) Fire in the Sky (1993) [Mike Rogers] Last Action Hero (1993) [T-1000 (uncredited)] Wayne's World (1992) [T-1000 (uncredited)] Resident Alien (TV) (1991) [himself] Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) [T-1000] Die Hard 2 (1990) [O'Reilly (terrorist)] Future Hunters (1989) [Slade] (aka Spear of Destiny) Hollywood Boulevard II (1989) Killer Instinct (1987) [Johnny Ransom] (aka Beyond Enemy Lines) Equalizer 2000 (1986) [Deke] Eye of the Eagle (1986) [Johnny Ransom] For more information, see the Internet Movie Database: http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?Patrick,%20Robert ================== 4.0 Plot questions ================== For an *excellent* explanation of many subtle plot points in T2 (including numerous omitted scenes), I *highly* recommend the following book for anyone who is a true T2 fan: _Terminator 2: Judgment Day: The Book of the Film: An Illustrated Screenplay_ (1991). By James Cameron and William Wisher, annotations by Van Ling. Applause Theater Book Pub. ISBN: 1557830975. 4.1 What year does T2 take place? --------------------------------- Some dates are made explicit: - The Future War sequence takes place in 2029. - Skynet becomes self-aware at 2:14am EDT August 29, 1997 (this is a Friday). - John Connor's DOB is February 28, 1985, and he is 10 years old in the movie (these facts are stated in the T2 script). - According to _The Terminator_ script, Sarah was 19. Sarah is 29 in T2. Therefore, most of T2 must take place in the summer of 1995. There are some problems with this conclusion, however. The Terminator says, "In three years Cyberdyne will become the largest supplier of military computer systems." Thus we conclude that in *three* years, Skynet starts the war. But if T2 takes place in 1995, 1995 + 3 = 1998, not 1997. One explanation is that mid-1995 to August, 1997 is more than two years, so the Terminator might have just rounded it to three years. The Terminator also says, "Thirty years from now you reprogrammed me to be your protector here, in this time." 2029 - 30 = 1999. T2 takes place before 1997, so the Terminator may just be doing more rounding. On the way to Dyson's house, John muses to the Terminator that he will send Kyle into the past "35 years from now." 2029 - 35 = 1994, which is plausible. There are further errors with dates: From Paul Duncanson <phd@bf.rmit.edu.au>: In T1 Reese accosts a police officer and demands to know the date. "Twelve. May. Thursday." Wrong! It is established three times that T1 happens in 1984 (title after credits in T1; Sarah's timecard in T1 read "Pay period ending 5/19/84"; and John's date of birth (2/28/1985) confirm he was conceived around May 1984). Problem is that May 12, 1984 was a Saturday. The problem probably occurred because the screenplay was written in 1983 when May 12 did fall on a Thursday. If the events depicted in T1 had indeed transpired in 1983, John would have been born in 1984, he would have been 10 in 1994, it would be 35 years until 2029, and it clearly would be three years until 1997--the dates would work out perfectly. The basic problem was in establishing that T1 took place in 1984 instead of 1983. That is, T2 is merely being consistent with T1, which unfortunately causes further mathematical errors. 4.2 Why does it take the T-1000 so long to show up at John's house in Reseda? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The T-1000 was transported to the Sixth Street Bridge in downtown LA at night and had access to a police vehicle and John Connor's address. Yet he only arrived at John's house in Reseda *after* the Terminator did! It seems like at least 4-6 hours between the T-1000 arriving and then getting to John's house. The greater LA area is big, but not that big. The most likely explanation is that the T-1000 does not know its way around very well. In the annotated screenplay, it is revealed that the T-1000 has to ask the little girls the location of the Galleria! 4.3 Why doesn't the security guard at Pescadero State Hospital notice the T-1000 on the floor? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is possible that the T-1000 made itself thin enough to avoid being noticed. The T-1000 doesn't necessarily need to keep a consistent thickness while it is on the floor (i.e., it's not a "slab"). 4.4 Does the T-1000 have to touch the object it takes the form of? ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Terminator told John that the T-1000 could replicate "anything it samples by physical contact." It appears that the T-1000 can use a medium to do this without actually touching the victim's skin. In scene where the T-1000 mimicked the guard at the Pescadero State Hospital, the only contact was when the guard walked on the floor, where the medium was the soles of the shoes the guard was wearing. JC, in the T2 SE supplements, explains that the T-1000 has the ability to sample things that it touches at a "fantastic level." In a scene cut from the theatrical release, the T-1000, after killing John's foster parents, searches for clues to John's whereabouts. It touches the walls, and immediately determines that there is a cache (of tapes and letters from Sarah, as it turns out) behind a poster in John's room (see section 1.2.2). 4.5 Why does the T-1000 change back to the policeman at Pescadero State Hospital? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- It may be that it requires more energy to mimic an object than to just keep the default form. When the T-1000 was transported to 1995, it had a default humanoid form, and that is the one it kept throughout the movie. It did *not* copy the form the unfortunate officer Austin who discovered it--it only copied the uniform, apparently. The T2 Annotated Screenplay (see section 7.1) notes that being a policeman gives the T-1000 a large degree of leeway, thus is a default; also, maintaining the same form allows the audience to recognize the character. 4.6 Why does the orderly in Pescadero State Hospital lick Sarah's face? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- According to JC, this situation was presented to "dig a deeper hole that Sarah had to climb out of." A cut scene (see section 1.2.2) showed Dougie (the licker) and another orderly hitting Sarah before giving her drugs. Thus, Sarah is justified in beating Dougie later on. Any sexual abuse is only weakly implied. 4.7 If dogs are used to identify Terminators, why doesn't the dog at the desert hideout bark at the Terminator? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Several possibilities have been discussed: 1) Dogs may have to be "trained" to sniff out Terminators. This implies that John's dog Max was just barking for the hell of it when the T-1000 kills John's foster parents. Not very likely. 2) Not all dogs bark at Terminators. Unlikely. 3) The dog at the desert hideout also did not bark at Sarah or John; maybe the dog didn't bark at "Uncle Bob" because it knew Sarah and John. Again, unlikely. 4) JC intentionally neglected to have the dog bark, to show that the Terminator was becoming more human. Quite possible. 5) It's a continuity glitch. Live with it ;-) 6) Lastly, the unfilmed Gant Ranch Sequence in the Annotated Screenplay notes: The dogs do not dig Terminator at all. They are barking and whining, slinking around, keeping their distance. Thus, the reaction of dogs to the Terminator was not forgotten. It is likely that showing the dogs becoming alarmed with the "kinder, gentler" Terminator would have confused the audience ("Is he a *good* guy or a *bad* guy?"). Some people are slow. 4.8 Why does Sarah carve the words "NO FATE"? --------------------------------------------- Sarah realizes that the future is not predetermined; she can *change* the future. (Remember Reese's words to her: "The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.") The words show Sarah's rejection of determinism; the future is not "carved in stone." The fact that the *words* are carved is ironic. 4.9 Why doesn't Sarah kill Dyson? --------------------------------- When faced with killing someone, Sarah cannot do it. This scene is meant to show that she is *not* like the Terminators. She has something they don't have: feelings. (She also sees Dyson with his *family*--something machines don't have.) These feelings will not let her kill even one person. Note that it is not necessary that Dyson dies--there are other ways to alter the future. 4.10 What parts of the police officer does the T-1000 duplicate? ---------------------------------------------------------------- It is clear that the T-1000 duplicates the officer's uniform, as evidenced after it walks out of the flaming wreckage of the semi. When the T-1000 goes to Dyson's home, it is listening to reports on a police radio. Comments during this scene on the extended LD indicate that whereas the T-1000 "became" the uniform of the policeman, it took the radio so it could monitor police activity. The T-1000 is *not* listening to the radio on the motorcycle. The point is made very clear that the T-1000 is also carrying a "real" gun at Pescadero, when the gun is the only item that gets caught in the bars of the door. However, when the T-1000 "pours" itself into the helicopter, *everything* morphs--including its helmet and the accessories on its belt. Obviously, these items were all replicated by the T-1000 as part of itself. 4.11 Why doesn't the T-1000 try to imitate Dyson and develop Skynet itself? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The T-1000 has one objective: to kill John Connor, not to preserve its own future. 4.12 Does the T-1000 have a third arm when it is flying the helicopter? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, if you look carefully when it is reloading after it flies beneath the overpass. Although the T-1000 is supposed to "mimic" shapes it comes in contact with, this seems to be an acceptable modification of its shape. Note that in the fight scene at the end of T2, the T-1000 is clearly capable of modifying its humanoid appearance--not to mention the many other myriad (partial) transformations, like "knives and stabbing weapons." 4.13 What is that "ripple" that goes through the T-1000? -------------------------------------------------------- The "ripple" was a consequence of the liquid nitrogen experience--it damaged the T-1000 (see the August, 1991 issue of _Cinefex_). 4.14 Why does the T-1000 take the shape of Sarah instead of the Terminator? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The T-1000 could have taken either shape; since the T-1000 took the shape of the guard at Pescadero, it would seem that the T-1000 could have taken the Terminator's shape as well, or at least come close to resembling him. It may have thought it would have had a better chance of getting close to John if it took the shape of his mother. Don't forget that the T-1000 had no information on how John's relationship was progressing with the Terminator, so it would assume that Sarah would have been a better choice. The Special Edition indicates that this behaviour resulted from the damage experienced by the T-1000 after being frozen and shattered. 4.15 Why does the T-1000 try to get Sarah to call to John? ---------------------------------------------------------- Again, discussion has centred on several possible explanations. In order of plausibility: 1) The theory from the novelization is that the liquid nitrogen temporarily damaged its vocals. 2) Another possible reason is that the T-1000 had not heard Sarah speak to obtain a sufficiently suitable sample; therefore, it could not mimic her voice. 3) Some have suggested that the T-1000 possesses some malevolence. For example, it wags its finger in the steel mill after Sarah blows a hole through its head. Thus, it may delight in torturing Sarah both physically (spike through the shoulder) and emotionally (helping her destroy her son). 4) It may be that the T-1000 realized that mimicry was unsuccessful on John before (when it imitated Janelle). Thus, it may have overestimated John's ability to distinguish actual human voices from a synthesis. 5) Finally, the best reason (noted in the Special Edition) is that this odd behaviour is also a result of being damaged by the liquid nitrogen and being shattered. The SE shows the T-1000 having difficulty maintaining a consistent form; perhaps it realized it would be unsuccessful in mimicking Sarah. 4.16 If the T-1000 is destroyed when it falls into the molten steel, why wasn't it destroyed when the semi tow-truck blew up? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Molten steel is a *lot* hotter than a gas explosion; notice that the truck did not melt when it blew up. According to the _Handbook of Chemistry and Physics_, the melting point of iron is 1535 degrees Celcius. A gasoline explosion burns at only 200-300 degrees C. Also, molten metal holds a lot more heat energy than burning gasoline. 4.17 Why doesn't the Terminator "disappear" when John throws the CPU into the molten steel? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The time travel of the Terminator movies is *not* the same as that of the _Back to the Future_ series. Although no one is sure what would happen if you created a paradox, it is highly unlikely (and goes against the laws of physics for our universe) that matter would just disappear into thin air. Time-travel paradoxes are a lot more complex than that. (See section 6 for more on time travel.) According to the novelization, Judgment Day is avoided; Sarah becomes a grandmother and John a Senator fighting the Skynet bill in Congress (see section 1.2.3). Also in the book, the Terminator jumps into the molten pit on its own--as was called for in an early script draft. 4.18 Isn't the Terminator's arm being left behind in the huge gear going to lead to the creation of Skynet anyway? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It was clear from Dyson that it was the *CPU* that spurred the technology for Skynet. In the novelization, Sarah and John took the parts left from the Terminator and threw them into the molten pit. 4.19 When the T-1000 is on top of the elevator in Pescadero State Hospital, why doesn't it just cut the cables? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Modern elevators have brakes that prevent them from free-falling to the bottom of the shaft; some shafts apparently also have "buffers" at the bottom. 4.20 What is the make and model of the Terminator? -------------------------------------------------- Reese (in T1) and Arnold (in T2) both refer to the Terminator as a "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101". Reese adds "the 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy. But these are new." Obviously there is more than one variation on the Model 101. In T2SE, after the chip-toggle scene, the Terminator reboots and the startup data is shown from his point of view. In the top left corner of the screen it says "Cyberdyne Systems Series 800 Model 101 Version 2.4". Presumably, the metal endoskeleton is Model 101; the flesh-covered units are Series 800. I leave it to Van Ling, former Creative Technical Supervisor of Lightstorm Entertainment, and annotator of the T2 illustrated screenplay (see section 7.1 for more details), to provide the definitive answer. From: <kiraprod@aol.com> (KiraProd): Arnold is an 800-series terminator, Model 101. This means that the infamous endoskeleton covered in living tissue is a T-800. The fact that the aforementioned living tissue looks like Arnold makes it Model 101. Therefore, all 800-series Model 101s look like Arnold. An 800-series Model 102 would look like somebody else, but would be essentially the same underneath, since it's a T-800. Just thought I'd clear that up. Van Ling Lightstorm Entertainment 4.21 What about [insert continuity glitch here]? ------------------------------------------------ Several astute people have pointed out minor continuity discrepancies. These are not plot problems, they are simply byproducts of the complex endeavour of shooting a film. For example, the numbers on the house of the first "Sarah Connor" don't match the listing in the phone book. Also, in T2, the Terminator scans the cars in the parking lot, and mislabels a Ford as a Plymouth. Again, Van Ling has the final word. From: <kiraprod@aol.com> (KiraProd): Arnold's face was NOT grafted via CG onto Peter Kent's body in the bike jump into the canal. You are simply looking at Peter Kent wearing Stan Winston facial prostheses to make him look more like Arnold. A previous post asked about the windshield continuity problem (the glass is popped out during the jump, then is back in until T-1000 knocks it out later). This is an instance of practicality taking precedent over continuity. Yes, the glass popped in the single take we did of the jump (an aborted practice take notwithstanding). However, Jim wanted the glass to remain intact for much of the scene, in order to a) help hide the stunt driver in most shots, and b) allow for clear closeups of Robert Patrick at the same time. This is not as mutually exclusive as you may think. Even Jim Cameron wasn't going to get to say "let's do this $$$$ gag again, and make make sure the glass doesn't pop this time!" There's a point where you have to decide whether to blow the bucks on a retake of a gag that hopefully should not yank you out of the film if the continuity is a little off, or to plow that money into other, more crucial parts of the movie, really finesse a cool CG shot, etc. I hope you'll agree we made the right decision. ;-) Van PS: I'm the first guy you here and see in the Cyberdyne lab intro scene, sitting at a terminal next to the neural net processor. ========== 5.0 Trivia ========== All questions must be stated in the form of a question. <grin> 5.1 Who was originally cast as the Terminator? ---------------------------------------------- Lance Henriksen (ALIENS, ALIEN^3, Hard Target) was originally cast as the Terminator (O.J. Simpson was considered for the role as well!); Henriksen was recast as the cop Vukovich. From Gale Ann Hurd <Film1999@aol.com>: FYI, Arnold was *never* cast as the hero. That is a myth that seems to have become fact as the years have passed. We (Jim Cameron and I) met Arnold, and the part that Michael Biehn played was never mentioned -- all of us were in agreement that he should play the title role of the Terminator. 5.2 How many lines did Arnold have in T1? ----------------------------------------- Arnold's voice is used in exactly 16 lines, with 17 sentences spoken. The Terminator has two other lines, one with the voice of a police officer overdubbed, and one with the voice of Sarah's mother overdubbed. There are also many lines with the voice of Sarah's mother, and we learn that the Terminator is actually saying them, but we don't see it onscreen. 5.3 What is Harlan Ellison's connection to the Terminator movies? ----------------------------------------------------------------- SF author Harlan Ellison filed a lawsuit against T1 director JC, claiming that Cameron plagiarized several of his short stories, namely "Soldier" and "Demon with a Glass Hand" (and, possibly, "A Boy and his Dog"). The concept of Skynet could also have been borrowed from an Ellison short story called "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream". Newer prints of T1 acknowledge Ellison. 5.4 What is the "crushing foot" motif? -------------------------------------- This refers to the recurring imagery of humanity being crushed by the machines. First, in the 2029 sequence of T1, there is a closeup of tank treads rolling over human skulls. Next, when the Terminator approaches the house of the first "Sarah Connor," it crushes a small toy truck. Also, after the Terminator kills Sarah's friend, he walks over her Walkman headphones. In T2, the title sequence starts with a Terminator endoskeleton crushing a human skull. The imagery of the Hunter-Killer tank rolling over skulls reoccurs. The Terminator crushes one of the roses that falls out of the flower box when it removes the shotgun at the Galleria (may be a reference to the T2 tie-in video by Guns 'n' Roses). The T-1000 treads on the Terminator's sunglasses at Pescadero State Hospital. 5.5 Is "judgment" spelled correctly? ------------------------------------ Both "judgement" and "judgment" are accepted spellings, however, "judgment" is increasingly preferred. 5.6 How did Linda Hamilton prepare for T2? ------------------------------------------ She underwent a rigorous weight-training/exercise program six days a week, and weapons training with a former Israeli commando. 5.7 Does Linda Hamilton have a twin sister who appeared in T2? -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, Linda's sister's name is Leslie Hamilton Gearren; she is a nurse in New Jersey. She was in the scene at the end where the T-1000 took the form of John Connor's mother. Linda actually played the T-1000 version of herself and her sister played Sarah Connor coming up behind the T-1000. Linda's sister also appeared in the scene in which Sarah replaces the Terminator's chip and sees herself in a mirror (this scene is restored in the Special Edition). Linda Hamilton played Sarah on the playground during her dream sequence (in fact, she is holding her real-life son). (The guard in the mental institute also has a real-life twin brother, who actually played the T-1000 coming up behind him at the coffee machine. These twin brothers were also in _Good Morning Vietnam_ and _Gremlins 2: The New Batch_.) 5.8 What hardware/software was used to produce some of the FX in T2? -------------------------------------------------------------------- The systems used were Silicon Graphics IRIS 4D/340VGX RISC-processor workstations. The software used was Alias Studio 3.0 and Pixar's Renderman from ILM. The computer graphics were used, among other things, for the morphing/liquid metal FX, and for putting the pilot's reflection on the T-1000 in the helicopter. According to Van Ling, Mac Quadras were used for some CGI work: 4-Ward Productions, who did the nuclear nightmare sequence, brought in Electric Image to model the Los Angeles skyline and blow it into particles. In fact, the good folks at EI developed their Mr. Nitro plug-in (now part of their standard package) for the film. 5.9 What machine code is displayed on the Terminator's visual display? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 6502 assembler, specifically Apple 2+ assembly, taken from _Nibble_ (QV), a computing magazine. Other code visible is written in COBOL. 5.10 What is the literal translation of "Schwarzenegger"? --------------------------------------------------------- According to Arnold on Late Night with David Letterman: "black plowman." 5.11 What does "Hasta la vista" mean? ------------------------------------- "See you later." Literal translation is "until the sight." Apparently, it's a mispronunciation of "Hasta _le_ vista", which translates to "until I see you". 5.12 Did the movies win any Academy Awards? ------------------------------------------- T2 won four Oscars: Best Make-up: Stan Winston and Jeff Dawn Best Sound Effects Editing: Gary Rydstrom and Gloria S. Borders Best Sound: Tom Johnson, Gary Rydstrom, Gary Summers, and Lee Orloff Best Visual Effects: Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Gene Warren Jr, and Robert Skotak T2 editors Conrad Buff IV, Mark Goldblatt, and Richard A. Harris were nominated in the Best Editing category. Adam Greenberg was nominated in the Best Cinematography category for T2. 5.13 How much money did T2 make? -------------------------------- T2 grossed over US$490 million worldwide. It recouped its total production costs in its first 12 days of release. In three weeks, it grossed US$123M --its closest competitor (_Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves_) took six weeks to reach that mark. For 1991, T2's total US box office gross for 1991 was US$204.4M; in the UK it took in #18.1M. 5.14 Is there a real Cyberdyne Systems and Skynet? -------------------------------------------------- Astonishingly, the answer to this question is a simple "yes!" A net.search for "Cyberdyne," will turn up over 8,000 hits! For example, the following is a multimedia company: http://www.cyberdynesystems.com A net.search for "Skynet" will produce over 14,000 references! For example, the following is an ISP: http://www.sky.net Another example is the following article, which was carried by Reuters on June 20, 1994: ** VSAT CUSTOMER--AT&T said Allied Van Lines has agreed to become the first customer of its new [VSAT] satellite hub service. AT&T said under Allied's five-year, multimillion-dollar contract, Allied will connect its agents' local area networks to AT&T's SKYNET hub service for shipment registration, scheduling and dispatch and to process bills of lading. Before anyone starts stocking up on plasma rifles and planning to be wearing 2 million sunblock on August 29, 1997, realize that the results of the above net.searches typically refer to the names of servers or ISPs. And the other example is clearly not a automated defense network, but rather a simple communications net. (Or is it...?) 5.15 What is "Benthic Petroleum"? --------------------------------- The symbol of the gas station that John, Sarah, and the Terminator pull into in T2 is the symbol of Benthic Petroleum, the fictional oil company from JC's _The Abyss_. 5.16 What sunglasses did the Terminator and Sarah wear? ------------------------------------------------------- According to Van Ling, Arnold wore Gargoyles in the first film, and wore Oakleys in T2. Sarah's sunglasses in T2 were made by Matsuda. 5.17 Where can I get a video parody of T2? ------------------------------------------ Roy Louden has filmed a funny parody of T2. Check out his homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com:80/homepages/Louden_Clear/ 5.18 What are some of the weapons used in T2? --------------------------------------------- When Sarah attempts to kill Dyson, she uses a CAR-15 (aka XM177L2), which looks similar to an M16A2 carbine. The sound suppresser on the guns is a Sionics model, first designed in the 1960s, and used by the US on M-16s in Vietnam. When Sarah enters Dyson's house, she is using a .45 longslide automatic, which (except for the laser sighting) is the same weapon the original Terminator used to assassinate the various Sarah Connors. The pistol's Aimpoint laser sight may represent the advance of technology, which is itself indicative of the future. The Terminator's shotgun appears to be a model 1887 Winchester level-action shotgun (see _Guns & Ammo_, 12/91, p.18). Sarah's shotgun looks like a Remington 870. The shotgun in T1 is a Franchi SPAS-12. Some other weapons include: Heckler & Koch MP-5s, and an M-79 grenade launcher. For more info, see the T2 Movie Gun Mishaps page: http://www.teleport.com/~dputzolu/MGM-T2.html 5.18.1 When the Terminator was firing the big machine gun in the Cyberdyne lab, is the bullet belt moving or not? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From <tighe@convex.com>: It appeared that the weapon Arnold had in T2 was a General Electric minigun, M-134/GAU-2b. It fires a 7.62 mm round from 6 rotating barrels at peak cyclic rates of up to 6,000 rpm. Barrel rotation is powered by an electric motor. The "ammo chain" is actually an enclosed feeder. The bullets are inside of this feeder. That is why it appears to not move. If you look closely, you'll see a steady stream of spent cartridges dropping out of the bottom of the weapon. 5.19 What kind of motorcycle was used in T2? -------------------------------------------- Arnold rode a Harley-Davidson "Fat Boy", designated as model FLSTF. 5.20 Miscellaneous trivia ------------------------- - T2 co-writer William Wisher portrayed the guy taking pictures of the Terminator after it smashes through the window at the Galleria; he was also the policeman who had his car stolen in T1. - The helicopter pilot whom the T-1000 tells to get out is played by Chuck Tamburro, T2's aerial coordinator. - Cyberdyne guard "Moshier" (Mike Muscat) was also Edward Furlong's acting coach. - The badge on the T1000's uniform reads "Austin," apparently after producer Stephanie Austin. - Arnold's ad-libbed line "I need a vacation" comes from another of his movies, _Kindergarten Cop_ (1990). - In T2, the Terminator loses its left arm, and hauls itself forward with its right. The same thing happened to the Terminator in T1. ========================= 6.0 Time travel questions ========================= Naturally, any theory of time travel is just that: a theory. For the purposes of this FAQ, the best we can do is try to apply one or more of these theories, while still maintaining internal consistency with the info presented in the films. There are many theories of time travel in science fiction and comics. However, most discussions of time travel focus on two theories of "real-world" physics: classic Newtonian and quantum mechanical physics. For a good introduction to the application of these theories to time travel, see the article, "The quantum physics of time travel" in the March, 1994 issue of _Scientific American_. The classical theory states that there is one existence, and thus a single timeline. According to this view, changing an event in the past could theoretically retroactively change history from the time traveler's POV. This theory is plagued by problems of "temporal paradoxes". For example, what happens if you go back in time and prevent your parents from meeting? (According to the movie _Back to the Future_, you will "fade from existence!") The quantum view is that time travel is possible along distortions in space-time called closed timelike curves; also, reality exists as a multiverse of infinite possibilities. Thus, if you travel back in time and prevent your parents from meeting, there's no paradox. Your parents still meet and conceive you in the timeline you came from (after all, you must have come from somewhere!). However, a "version" of you will *not* be born in the timeline you traveled to. Brian Christopher Weaver <bcw3s@fermi.clas.virginia.edu> writes: The 'many-universes' interpretation of quantum mechanics solves a lot of time travel paradoxes. A time traveler can make _any_ change in the past he/she/it wants to without endangering their existence because they came from a _different_ universe whose timeline is untouched by their meddling. Therefore, there really is no paradox in the Terminator movies. The Terminators and Kyle Reese came from a universe where the war actually occurred, but by the end of T2 a universe had been created where John and Sarah Connor lived with no global thermonuclear war. The original timeline still exists, however, in a parallel universe." T2 implies that its world is of one existence and a single timeline. Certainly, it would seem to be futile to send someone back to change the past in a multi-universe existence--unless one is very altruistic! Consider this: T2 implied that Judgment Day never occurred due to manipulation of the past. But it all depends which timeline one looks at: 1995 2029 -----|----------------|--(existence with nuclear war) (A) \_______________|__(alternate peaceful existence) (B) Assuming the existence of multiple parallel timelines, if a time traveler could change an event in 1995 (such as destroying the CPU chip), all that would result is another existence (B) branching off from 1995. Note that the nuclear war still happens in existence (A), even if an event in the past is changed! What can we conclude? Quantum physics *can* explain the events of T1/T2 well. However, it does not make for a good story. Although saving humanity in a *single* timeline out of an infinity is better than none at all, this situation would likely not have been accepted by the moviegoing public. Assuming Judgment Day does *not* occur (as per the "lost ending" of T2), JC wanted to show that there is "no fate" but what we make of it. This philosophy is reinforced by the "single-timeline" approach. So there you have it: good physics and a watered-down story, or a ream of paradoxes and a strong story. 6.1 How did the (liquid *metal*) T-1000 travel to the past? Didn't they destroy the time machine? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Terminator was able to go through time because it was surrounded by living tissue. The T-1000 could imitate living tissue, but it is made up of alloy metals, so it is not technically a biological organism, but neither was the Terminator. Some possibilities: 1) Maybe Skynet used a time machine with improved capabilities (apparently with the letter-boxed laserdisc for T1, you can see a type of bubble enclosed around Reese before he drops, so this may imply that the same type of time machine was used in T2). 2) Mimicking living tissue is sufficient. The mimetic polyalloy is capable of generating a "living field" of some sort. 3) The time machine in T2 is in a separate existence from T1 (refer to section 6 on time travel). 4) The T-1000 was sent through wrapped-up in flesh. This is the most likely (but most gory) explanation. In _The Terminator: Tempest_ comic, an advanced plasma weapon is sent through time in the belly of a man. The same method may be extrapolated for the T-1000. Regarding the destruction of the time machine, Reese would have been gone before the machine was destroyed anyway. He wouldn't know for certain whether it was destroyed or not. 6.2 How can Skynet exist if the chip and arm were destroyed? ------------------------------------------------------------ According to the classical, single timeline/universe view, it is impossible -- unless Cyberdyne Systems develops Skynet technology *independently* of any help from the future. Assuming the existence of a multiverse of timelines, this situation can also be explained. In the universe in which we see the Terminator technology destroyed, Skynet will never exist. However, there must exist at least *one* timeline/universe in which Skynet technology is developed. This may occur due to: a) Cyberdyne independently creating the technology, or b) Terminator remains originating from yet *another* timeline are left behind. Thus, the movies must chronicle *two* different universes: one with the hellish future dominated by Skynet, the other is the one saved by Sarah and John. 6.3 If John gave a speech to Reese in 2029, who gave it to Sarah and conceived John in 1984, and then Sarah told it to John, then who *wrote* the bloody speech? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to classical physics, we have a classic paradox. No one wrote it, everybody just memorized it. Assuming a multiverse, on the other hand, we can posit that a future John Connor (whose mother encountered a Reese who perhaps forgot the speech) *did* write the speech, and gave it to Reese. Reese traveled back to 1984 in *another* universe, and gave it to Sarah (which we saw in T1). 6.4 What are some good related SF time-travel stories? ------------------------------------------------------ Larry Niven's short story entitled "All the myriad ways" (in a collection by the same name) explores the every-change-in-history-creates-an-alternate- universe idea. The story is based on the idea that there are an infinite number of these universes, branching off at every decision anyone ever makes. It's an interesting extension of just how irrelavant everything become in one of these alternate-universe-based view of things. In that same collection is another story, "On the theory and practice of time travel" which is a very entertaining look at the whole subject. The book is highly recommended based not only on its high entertainment value but on its thought-provoking look at time travel. Robert A. Heinlein's short story "All you zombies" (in _The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathon Hoag_) is widely considered to be *the* definitive time-travel story. Also, see "By His Bootstraps," (in _Adventures in Time and Space_) written under the pen name of Anson MacDonald. _The Man Who Folded Himself_ by David Gerrold was mentioned by quite a few people; Phineas <phin@west.darkside.com> describes it as, "quite a trip." _The Time Ships_ by Stephen Baxter (1995) is notable because it is a sequel to the seminal time-travel story, H.G. Wells's _The Time Machine_. The inspiration for the Terminator films can be found in some of the early _Outer Limits_ episodes. These shows are available on VHS video. "Demon With a Glass Hand" [Writer: Harlan Ellison] [Director: Byron Haskin] When the future Earth is conquered by an alien race, a lone survivor--an intent, enigmatic man named Trent--finds himself thrown back a thousand years into our present. Trapped in a delapidated office building, he holds the fate of mankind in his hand--a mysterious, incomplete glass hand that is both computer and oracle. "Soldier" [Writer: Harlan Ellison] [Director: Gred Oswald] Somewhere is Earth's distant future: on a blasted, radioactive no-man's-land, two soldiers battle in a crossfire of death beams, and a bizarre time-warp is created. Wrenched out of the future, flung back in time to today, Qarlo is a killing machine without a war. "The Man Who was Never Born" [Writer: Anthony Lawrence] [Director: Leonard Horn] A horribly mutated man from the future returns to the "present" to try kill the man who created the biological disaster that led to the desolate future Earth. ================================================ 7.0 What Terminator novels and comics are there? ================================================ The comic-book license to T1 has been held by two companies at different times: first by Now Comics, and later by Dark Horse Comics. These comics expanded on the canon presented in the T1 movie *only*, not explicitly incorporating the events of T2. The current status of the T1 license is unknown. The license to T2 was obtained by Marvel Comics, which only produced an adaptation of the T2 movie. This license is currently held by Malibu Comics Entertainment Inc., which is owned by Marvel Entertainment. Malibu produced two interlinking series based on T2. Malibu still has the licence for T2, but Marvel filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy in late 1996. **** CAUTION! Spoilers below, especially in the _RoboCop Versus The **** Terminator_ and Malibu Comics synopses! 7.1 Terminator books -------------------- _The Terminator_ by Randall Frakes & Bill Wisher. Mass-market paperback, based on the screenplay by James Cameron with Gale Anne Hurd. Published November, 1985. ISBN 0-553-25317-4 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ by Randall Frakes. Mass-market paperback, based on the screenplay by James Cameron & William Wisher. Published July, 1991. ISBN 0-553-29169-6 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day: The Book of the Film: An Illustrated Screenplay_ by James Cameron & William Wisher, annotations by Van Ling. Applause Theater Book Pub. Published 1991. ISBN 1-557-83097-5 _The Making of Terminator 2_ by Don Shay & Jody Duncan. Bantam Books. Published July, 1991. ISBN 0-553-35346-2 7.2 Now Comics -------------- The first appearance of a Terminator in the comics was in a preview of the first Now Comics series, which appeared in Rust #12, August 1988. 7.2.1 _The Terminator_ ---------------------- Issues issues #1-17 (1988?). "It's after the first Terminator film, set in the future with the focus on John Conner's [sic] battle with Skynet. This movie tie-in doesn't follow the film's direction at all, and as a comic has a lame story with so-so art." [from _Hero Illustrated_ #6] This series has been criticized for its stylized, "cartoony" art. 7.2.2 _The Terminator: The Burning Earth_ ----------------------------------------- Issues #1-5 (1990). Written by Ron Fortier, fully painted art by Alex Ross (of _Marvels_ fame). In 2041, John Connor and the human resistance race to stop Skynet from using its nuclear stockpile to finally annihilate the human race. 7.2.3 _The Terminator: All My Futures Past_ ------------------------------------------- Issues #1-2 (1990). Written by Chuck Dixon, fully painted art by Diego and Delsol. This story takes place in 2029, and chronicles the departure of the Terminator and Reese to 1984. 7.3 Dark Horse Comics --------------------- All of the Dark Horse limited series have been collected in trade paperback editions (TPBs). 7.3.1 _The Terminator: Tempest_ ------------------------------- Issues #1-4 (1990). Written by John Arcudi, art by Chris Warner & Paul Guinan. A group of humans, led by Colonel Mary Randall, travel back in time to stop Cyberdyne Systems Corporation from developing Skynet technology. The only things standing in their way are four Terminators, including a half-human/half-Terminator cyborg sent back in time by Skynet. Cover of the TPB painted by John Bolton. 7.3.2 _The Terminator: One Shot_ -------------------------------- One issue (1991). Written by James Robinson, fully painted art by Matt Wagner. Has a pop-up page in the middle. Tells the story of a female Terminator sent to kill the *fourth* "Sarah Connor" living in Los Angeles, and the person sent back in time to stop the Terminator. 7.3.3 _The Terminator: Secondary Objectives_ -------------------------------------------- Issues #1-4 (1991). Written by James Robinson, art by Paul Gulacy & Karl Kesel. Terminators from the _Tempest_ series are still around, but they'll have to go through Colonel Randall (the surviving time-displaced human resistance soldier from _Tempest_), a Cyberdyne technician, and a cyborg from the future to fulfill their secondary objective: kill Sarah Connor. TPB cover by Paul Gulacy. 7.3.4 _The Terminator: The Enemy Within_ ---------------------------------------- Issues #1-4 (1991/1992). Written by Ian Edginton, art by Vince Giarrano, painted covers by Simon Bisley. The human/Terminator cyborg "Dudley" struggles to reassert his humanity over his machine side, as questions about the Cyberdyne technician's loyalty arise. Meanwhile, four human reinforcements from the future and inquisitive LAPD Detective Sloane join Mary Randall in a showdown with the remaining Terminator. TPB cover by Simon Bisley. 7.3.5 _The Terminator: Hunters & Killers_ ----------------------------------------- Issues #1-3 (1992). Written by Toren Smith, Adam Warren, & Chris Warner, art by Bill Jaaska, Dan Panosian, & Jeff Albrecht, painted covers by John Taylor Dismukes. Chronicles the efforts of a team of Russian Special Forces resistance fighters in 2029 as they race a group of Terminators sent by Skynet and its Russian arm, Mir, to obtain a submarine stocked with nuclear missiles. TPB cover by Walt Simonson. 7.3.6 _The Terminator: Endgame_ ------------------------------- Issues #1-3 (1992). Written by James Robinson, art by Jackson Guice & John Beatty, painted covers by John Higgins. Dudley informs Colonel Randall that yet another new Terminator has been sent to kill Sarah Connor and her baby. Randall again seeks the aid of Detective Sloane, who is tracking the serial killer "Catfish." In the hospital in which Sarah is giving birth, Randall, Sloane, Catfish, and the Terminator all meet in a surprising final confrontation. Collected in a TPB, cover by John Bolton. 7.3.7 _RoboCop Versus The Terminator_ ------------------------------------- Issues #1-4 (1992). Written by Frank Miller, art by Walter Simonson. TPB cover by Walt Simonson (this edition includes the three cardstock standees which were published in three issues of this series). In the future, the catalyst for Skynet's sentience is discovered to be the cyborg Alex Murphy: RoboCop. A lone female soldier travels back in time to Detroit -- and destroys RoboCop! As changes in the timestream sweep to the future, Skynet sends Terminators to the past, which *prevent* the soldier from killing RoboCop, who then destroys the Terminators. Knowing his destiny, RoboCop destroys himself. Again, changes sweep forward in time, and Skynet sends back Terminators that once again prevent the destruction of RoboCop, and force him to merge with Skynet. The years pass and Murphy exists only as a virus in Skynet, waiting until he can create himself a new form. This new RoboCop prevents the soldier from traveling to the past. He replicates himself hundreds of times and takes on the Terminators and Skynet, then travels back in time and destroys Skynet before it becomes sentient. And changes sweep along the timestream... 7.4 Marvel Comics ----------------- _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_, issues #1-3. Script adapted by Gregory Wright, art by Klaus Janson. As with any adaptation, lots of things have been cut out. This series is notable for its inclusion of scenes that were removed from the film, like Sarah adjusting the chip in the Terminator's head (see section 1.2.2). Art is mediocre; this series is only for die-hard, completist fans--like me! ;-) Reprinted in a squarebound, b&w magazine. The following was posted to Usenet by comics pro Eval Skolnick: Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc Subject: Re: Terminator ( was Re: Licensed comics (was Re: Transformers)) From: evanskol@aol.com (EvanSkol) Date: 30 Apr 1996 23:11:17 -0400 Dave Good (dgood@pomona.edu) wrote: >Marvel also held on to the Terminator license once for a while and did >absolutely NOTHING with it. Not really true. Speaking as the guy who was hired to write the Marvel TERMINATOR 2 series back when the T2 movie was coming out, I can tell you we were feverishly working to get the licensing moron at Lightstorm Productions to approve our stories. We had a way-cool concept (if I say so myself) for the ongoing series that had everyone at Marvel excited. But this guy thought the series should've been more like the Saturday morning Terminator cartoon show they were developing at the time (I kid you not), which can be summed up by "A boy and his pet Terminator". We refused to do such a juvenile, asinine series, and we found ourselves stalemated. Ultimately, I found myself out of a writing job, and Marvel found that the potentially valuable license they had paid good money for had been squandered. A very frustrating experience, let me tell you... -- Evan Skolnick 7.5 Malibu Comics ----------------- Malibu Comics currently holds the T2 licence, and has produced two series that tied together in the flip-book _T2: Cybernetic Dawn_ #0/_T2: Nuclear Twilight_ #0. These series are notable for including several scenes described in the _T2 Annotated Screenplay_ that were left out of T2. (In some cases, the renderings look suspiciously similar to the storyboards.) 7.5.1 _T2: Cybernetic Dawn_ (aka "Present War") ----------------------------------------------- Issues #1-4 and #0 (1995/1996). Written by Dan Abnett, art by Rod Whigham & Jack Snider and Gordon Purcell, covers by Rob Prior and Rod Whigham & Chuck Maiden and Joel Naprstek. Picks up where T2 left off. Sarah and John go to Salceda's ranch, but Enrique has been killed by the T-1000. Meanwhile, the T-800's arm is recovered from the steel mill by two FBI agents, Vincent Spasky and Karyn Stern, who are in league with NetWork Developments. Sarah and John help Tarissa Dyson and her children escape from the Feds, who are trying to learn more about Miles' project. In the chase, one LAPD officer is killed by a Terminator! Sarah and LAPD officer Mossberg kill the T-800 at a construction site. To find out their plans, Sarah surrenders to the feds. Stern shows Sarah dozens of (nonfunctional) endoskeletons, and then reveals herself to be a T-1000! Meanwhile, Mossberg, John, and the Dyson kids fight off *another* Terminator, which Mossberg destroys with a shoulder-launched missile. Sarah destroys the T-1000 by dousing it with a corrosive solvent; the ensuing conflagration levels NetWork Developments. John and Sarah meet up and realize that Judgment Day is inevitable, and they all must prepare for it... 7.5.2 _T2: Nuclear Twilight_ (aka "Future War") ----------------------------------------------- Issues #1-4 and #0 (1995/1996). Written by Mark Paniccia, art by Gary Erskine, covers by Rob Prior and Gary Erskine & Joel Naprstek. Takes place after Judgment Day. An adult John Connor leads the human resistance; Danny Dyson is secretly analyzing Skynet's source code. Skynet suffers a power dip as the first T-800 goes back in time to hunt Sarah Connor. Risking his life, Kyle Reese succeeds in capturing an endoskeleton that is rendered catatonic during the power dip. Griff, a member of Reese's team, is captured by Skynet and duplicated by a T-1000, while another T-1000 prepares for chronoportation to 1994. Dyson uploads a virus to the T-800 which is designed to paralyze Skynet. A team of resistance fighters takes the endoskeleton to infiltrate Skynet's Cheyenne Mountain complex. As Skynet is crippled, John Connor leads a team to the Time Displacement Equipment, and sends Reese back in time. In the complex, John and Danny program a T-800 to be sent back to 1994 to protect John; its mission begins immediately, as it saves the (adult) John Connor by terminating several hostile T-800s. Just when it appears that humanity has triumphed over the machines, the other T-1000 (still mimicking Griff) enters Dyson's quarters and downloads the crucial Skynet source code... =================================================== 8.0 What Terminator computer/video games are there? =================================================== 8.1 Arcade Games ---------------- Look for these games in your local arcade. Unless you're rich, in which case you can go out and buy them. 8.1.1 T2: The Arcade Game ------------------------- From Williams/Midway/Sente. One or two players wield guns and play "converted" T-800s who shoot through a variety of scenes from the movie--fight with the humans against the Terminators, raid Skynet's time-travelling complex, shoot the cops while the Connors blow up Cyberdyne, freeze the T-1000, and blow it away. Very hard, but lovely graphics and sound. 8.1.2 T2 Pinball ---------------- From MTM 'Matt the Mentat' Walsh <mtmr@walsh.dme.battelle.org>: I worked at Williams/Bally/Midway - the official licensee of T2 - when the games were being developed. T2 Pinball Trivia: Note that the T-1000 only appears in one corner of the game's playfield artwork, and he appears as the normal, Mr. Patrick mode. This is not because Williams didn't know the script (we got to read it) it was because the game was supposed to come out before the movie and they insisted we did not give away the surprise that Arnold was the good Terminator and there was a liquid guy who was the bad one. There is a special game ROM chip for the pinball. If you put it in, an interesting thing happens if you have the game set for free play. If you get into the Database mode, the game lists 10 'Possible Choices' of things you receive, from 'Extra Ball' to '10,000 pts' to 'ZILCH'. This is supposed to be just like the scene in T1 where Arnold picks from 'possible responses' in the hotel. If you have the special chip, instead of 'Zilch' the game has 'F*** You A** Hole' and if chosen the words get big on the screen and Arnold says the phrase out loud. Only a handful of collectors got these chips and have sworn to never release these to general game operators. 8.2 Computer Games ------------------ OK, if you're not so rich, you can still play Terminator games on your computer. I've added my own ratings, having played most of the games listed below. 8.2.1 The Terminator -------------------- First-person perspective/driving game. You may play the Terminator or Reese. Your objective (kill Sarah/destroy the Terminator) depends on which character you choose to play. Average graphics and mediocre gameplay. MS-DOS systems. Graphics: 65% Sound: 65% Gameplay: 50% Longevity: 30% Overall: 50% 8.2.2 T2 -------- Third-person platform/action game with six levels (you play the Terminator): 1) Initial fight in the Galleria (side view): Fighting the T-1000, you have three moves at your disposal (high kick, low kick, and punch). 2) Motorbike chase (top view): You're on a motorcycle and the T-1000 is chasing you in a semi through an obstacle course. You have to avoid junk that's lying on the road and maintain your speed so that the semi doesn't hit you. 3) T2 arm puzzle: Sliding tile puzzle. You have to "fix" the Terminator's forearm by sliding the squares around to unscramble the picture. 4) Helicopter chase: Same as the motorcycle chase, except you're in a truck and the T-1000 is in a helicopter. 5) T2 face puzzle: Same as the arm puzzle, except with the Terminator's face 6) Final battle: Same as the first level, except it's in the steel factory. At the end of each level is brief animation from the movie. MS-DOS systems. 8.2.3 T2: The Arcade Game ------------------------- First-person action game, based on the arcade game of T2. Has received only poor reviews. MS-DOS systems. Graphics: 61% Sound: 72% Gameplay: 45% Longevity: 10% Overall: 50% 8.2.4 Terminator 2: Judgment Day Chess Wars ------------------------------------------- "Combine the excellence of the Grandmaster Chess game engine with the high-action science fiction drama of the Terminator, and you get T2 Chess Wars. While the animation is lacking in some places, the overall quality of the game's engine makes up for any shortcomings." [from _CD-ROM Entertainment_] MPC (MS-DOS CD-ROM) systems. 8.2.5 The Terminator 2029 ------------------------- Split-screen (first-person combat window/third-person overhead navigation window) action game. You play an armoured member of the human resistance. You must complete 19 different missions. Nice graphics, but gameplay is awkward and difficult. MS-DOS systems. Graphics: 85% Sound: 85% Gameplay: 65% Longevity: 70% Overall: 75% For a non-interactive demo (2.2Mb): http://www.bethsoft.com/Demos/2029.zip NOTE: This game is also available as "T2029 Deluxe MPC CD-ROM," which includes T2029 and the Operation Scour add-on. MPC systems. 8.2.6 The Terminator 2029: Operation Scour ------------------------------------------ Add-on mission disk for T2029. More of the same; 12 new missions. MS-DOS systems. 8.2.7 The Terminator: Rampage ----------------------------- First-person combat game, a la DOOM. Very nice graphics and good gameplay. Plagued by speed problems, however. MS-DOS systems. Graphics: 80% Sound: 80% Gameplay: 65% Longevity: 60% Overall: 75% For a slideshow (292Kb): http://www.bethsoft.com/Demos/ramslide.zip For a playable demo (1.3Mb): http://www.bethsoft.com/Demos/ramdemo.zip 8.2.8 The Terminator: Future Shock ---------------------------------- A reworked Terminator: Rampage. It's not even *close* to DOOM or Dark Forces. Requires Pentium-class or above systems. MPC CD-ROM/MS-DOS systems. From Bethesda's hype: [Features] Bethesda's Xngine--a full 3D, first-person, real-time engine with real-time light sources, full texturing, 3D landscaping, and Phong shading. Multiple levels of action--walk across rolling landscape, explore ruined buildings, infiltrate Terminator outposts, drive a car through downtown LA (Editorial comment: Woo! What thrills!), and even fly an HK fighter! More than 20 different 3D-textured enemies to face. A huge variety of awesome weaponry and equipment. Graphics: 80% Sound: 85% Gameplay: 70% Longevity: 70% Overall: 75% For a playable demo (6.5Mb): http://www.bethsoft.com/Demos/fsdemo.zip 8.2.9 The Terminator: Skynet ---------------------------- Released in October, 1996. From Bethesda: Return to the apocalyptic world that is The Terminator(TM). Terminator fans have bombarded us with all sorts of requests and suggestions for another sequel (Editorial comment: no, not *another* one--a *better* one) with all new features, and we had no choice but to comply! SkyNET delivers all new single player missions and the most explosive multi-player combat ever to grace a screen. Now take on the cyborg enemies in SVGA graphics with all new options and weapons. Lob pipe bombs over walls to bombard your enemies, or use the motion tracker and play a deadly game of cat and mouse. In single-player mode, you must locate a nuclear weapon. In multiplayer mode, you can choose the character you wish to play. Other features: - Customizable battlefields for multiplayer action via network/modem - Only one copy required to play a multi-player game - SVGA 640x480 resolution support - Full 3D texture mapped environment with 6 degrees of player freedom - Realistic light sourcing - All new weapons bring you up to 17 total weapons at your disposal - Fully configurable controls, with complete joystick support - Supports the Virtual I/O and Forte VFX1 HMDs with head tracking System requirements: 486/50Mhz IBM PC or compatible running DOS 5.0 or better 8MB RAM 2x CD-ROM Drive VGA compatible graphics card (SVGA presumably required for 640x480) 20MB hard disk space Microsoft-compatible mouse Supports most popular sound cards including: Aria, Microsoft Sound System, Ensoniq, Roland, SoundBlaster, and UltraSound. For more information, including a 10.9Mb playable demo, see: http://www.bethsoft.com/html_n/htms/skynet_a.html 8.3 Console Games ----------------- 8.3.1 The Terminator -------------------- Reviewed by Trevor Williams <brock@alaska.net>: The Terminator is a shoot-'em-up platform game for NES, Super Nintendo, Sega Game Gear, Sega Master System, and Sega Megadrive (Genesis). The game follows the movie closely, but adds original levels. (The first level, for instance, has Kyle Reese infiltrating the Terminators' time machine base). The graphics are horrible, even on Super Nintendo. Sometimes flicker occurs, slowing the game. The Nintendo graphics resemble that of a Commodore 64, while the SNES graphics look like that of a subpar Nintendo game. The sound is okay, but on the Sega Master System, it is atrocious. This game is very hard. Most of the time, you have to attack the Terminator and then run for it. Then attack and run. Attack and run. Very repetitive. And you have a very limited supply of health. At least on the Game Gear version, one hit means you're dead. The game is frustrating. With drab graphics and the repetitiousness, it can become a bore quickly. Graphics: 61% Sound: 72% Gameplay: 45% Longevity: 10% Overall: 50% (I am being nice) For most console systems. 8.3.2 Terminator 2: The Arcade Game ----------------------------------- Flying Edge's (aka Acclaim's) adaptation of the arcade machine. Support for the Menacer video-game gun (Genesis) and the Super Scope (Super Nintendo "gun") are provided. Both are good conversions, though the Nintendo game has been toned down a bit to avoid being too offensive to sensitive parents. SNES and Genesis systems. 8.3.3 Robocop vs. the Terminator -------------------------------- Acclaim(?)'s loose adaptation of the Dark Horse limited series (see section 7.3.7). In both games, you play Robocop, who shoots through a motley crew of punks and endoskeletons in the near future, then travels to the Terminator's future for more fighting with Skynet's forces. The SNES and Genesis versions differ somewhat in graphics, sound, and level, with only the basic idea the same between them. Rather generic side-scrolling platform action, though with good sound and graphics. SNES and Genesis systems. 8.4 Miscellaneous Games ----------------------- 8.4.1 T2 Handheld ----------------- The T2 handheld LCD "video game" by Acclaim has "arcade-style continue mode, roll-over scoring and dual channel super-sound FX as you take on the T-1000 at the steel mill as Earth's fate hangs in the balance" [from the T2 Official Movie Magazine] 8.5 Miscellaneous Software -------------------------- T2 Entertainment Utility by Sound Source Interactive: - Image Carousel featuring 14 video-based screen savers - Personal Desktop attaches over 100 audio clips to Windows functions - 36 full-screen wallpaper images - Jizza creates 15 different hard, medium, and easy jigsaw puzzles - Serial-numbered Limited Edition of only 100,000 - Includes Certificate of Authenticity For more information, visit SSI's website: http://www.cris.com/~Ssi/ SSI also makes T2: The Screen Saver. A 318K "sampler pak" demo can be obtained from any of the following: ftp://galactus.tiac.net/private/egr/t2smpl.zip ftp://ftp.ipp.pt/pub/pc/t2smpl.zip ========================================= 9.0 Will there be a _Terminator 3_ movie? ========================================= *** NEWS FLASHES *** Rumour: Cameron is set to handle this project in 1998 for a summer 1999 release. This is his way of repaying Fox for all their help with the budgeting of _Titanic_ ($200+ million). This has caused the _Avatar_ project to be delayed. In late October, 1996, Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a contract for T3! The amount paid to make sure he'll be back? A kewl US$45 million. For more information, keep an eye on Harry Jay Knowles' website at: http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/coolnews.html Or the excellent Corona film database at: http://corona.bc.ca/films/details/terminator3.html On _Secrets Revealed_, JC is cagey: "Well, T3...that's a *secret* of course. We can't talk about that [laughs]." (JC is obviously playing on the fact that the TV show is called "Secrets Revealed.") Arnold, on T2: "This movie does *not* indicate to me that there's an end to the story possibilities. According to what we know about the future, there were *hundreds* of Terminators built. This story could go on forever. I know Jim [JC] rules out a third film. But I don't" [from _Starlog Yearbook_, vol. 10] Note that by removing the ending of T2 showing Sarah and John in the future, JC makes it more ambiguous whether or not Skynet will be developed. I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the future brings ;-) 9.1 What is the _Terminator 3: Armageddon_ script? -------------------------------------------------- _Terminator 3: Armageddon_ is a fan treatment for the final installment to the Terminator series written by Daniel L. Perez <terminator3@its-a-free-world.com>, an independent freelance screenwriter who has tried to get this script through the Hollywood system to no avail. Therefore the author has decided on his own choice for an Entertainment Industry: the Internet. He describes the story thusly: "A new T-1000 as well as a new Terminator (sent to make sure the T-1000 doesn't malfunction) are sent to the year 2000 on a new mission to destroy Sarah and John Connor on a mission which will alter history as they know it" The _T3: Armageddon_ script (recently updated) is available at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2900 ============ 10.0 Credits ============ Some people whose contributions are quoted directly are named in the body of this document. Here are some others who have helped me make this document what it is (sorry if I left anyone out!): - A huge credit must go to Doug Fierro (formerly at <fierro@uts.amdahl.com>) who compiled the T2 FAQ, upon which this document is heavily based. - Jesse Harris Nice <atreides@cmu.edu> took over the Terminator website, and has displayed *much* patience in dealing with me. Thanks, Jesse! - Ross Chandler <chandler@maths.tcd.ie>, in addition to first converting this FAQ to HTML and maintaining the T2 WWW home page, contributed answers to many questions. His contribution to this FAQ is much appreciated. - Manny Bagnas <manny.bagnas@sandiegoca.ncr.com> - Stephen Chan <sc17@cornell.edu> - Kent Corbit <kncorbit@puc.edu> - Francisco X. DeJesus <dejesus@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil> - Paul Duncanson <phd@bf.rmit.edu.au> - Byron W. Graham <madbaron@aol.com> - Darryll S H Hobson <hobson@ee.ualberta.ca> - Catherine Humowiecki <ceh@muddcs.cs.hmc.edu> - Robert A. Jung <rjung@netcom.com> - Carl Liss <C.LISS@tasc.ac.uk> - Mark Martinez <090632@cygnus.lanl.gov> - Mark Odell <modellus@shakala.com> - Sanjay Rajput <rajput@shrike.larc.nasa.gov> - Nancy Slakoff <nancy@netrunner.net> - Greg Smith <gsmith@westnet.com> - <swampthing@genie.geis.com> - Aman Verjee <bkmagic@leland.stanford.edu> - Brian Christopher Weaver <bcw3s@fermi.clas.virginia.edu> 10.1 Bibliography ----------------- _American Cinematographer_ (August, 1996) _CD-ROM Entertainment_ (May, 1994), I(1). _Cinefex_, #21. The Terminator. _Cinefex_, #47. Terminator 2: Judgment Day. _Cinefex_, #68. T2-3D. _Cinescape_, vol. 2, #6 (March, 1996). Eminent Domain. _Computer Graphics World_ (July 1996). He's Back! _CyberSurfer_, #7 (October, 1996). Hollywood Bytes. _Gamefan_, vol. 4, #3. E-Fan: T2 The Ride Continues... _PC Gamer_, vol. 3, #10 (October, 1996). _The Terminator_ (1985). By Randall Frakes & Bill Wisher (based on the screenplay by James Cameron with Gale Anne Hurd). ISBN 0-553-25317-4 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day_ (1991). By Randall Frakes (based on the screenplay by James Cameron & William Wisher) ISBN 0-553-29169-6 _Terminator 2: Judgment Day: The Book of the Film: An Illustrated Screenplay_ (1991). By James Cameron and William Wisher, annotations by Van Ling. Applause Theater Book Pub. ISBN: 1-557-83097-5 _The Making of Terminator 2: Judgment Day_. (1991). By Don Shea & Jody Duncan. Bantam Books: New York. ISBN: 0-553-35346-2 _The Official Terminator 2: Judgment Day Movie Magazine_ (1991). Starlog Communications International. _Sci-Fi Entertainment_ vol. 3, #2 (August, 1996). Masters of Fantasy: James Cameron Makes It Happen. _Scientific American_ (March, 1994). The quantum physics of time travel. By D. Deutsch, & M. Lockwood. Vol. 270(3), 68-74. _Starlog_, #230 (Sept. 1996). Our daily Terminations. _Starlog Yearbook_, vol. 10 (Sept, 1992). Heart of Steel [interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger]. Starlog Communications International. _Wired_ 4.04 (April, 1996) Cameron angle. *** END OF FAQLIST ***