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- Subject: Motif FAQ (Part 2 of 9)
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- From: kenton@rahul.net (Ken Lee)
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- Organization: Kenton Lee, X/Motif Consultant, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/
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- Version: 8.1
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- Subject: 20) Where can I find Motif 2.1 documentation?
- [Last modified: Mar 98]
-
- Answer: A full listing of current Motif and CDE manuals in book form is
- available at http://www.opengroup.org/pubs/catalog/mo.htm
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 21)* Is the official Motif documentation available on-line?
- [Last modified: Jan 02]
-
- Answer: Open Motif documentation in PDF and PostScript formats is available
- at:
-
- http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/docs/
-
- The O'Reilly Motif tutorial books are available at:
-
- http://www.ist.co.uk/NEWS/archive/motifbooks.html
- http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/motif/
-
- Here are some Russian translations of the Motif manuals:
-
- http://motif.hut.ru/
-
- For other on-line Motif documentation, please see:
-
- http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.framed.html
-
-
- Ken Lee, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 22) I want to use C++ with Motif. Where can I find C++ examples?
- Motif 2.0 supports native C++ classes but I can't find documentation.
- [Last modified: Sept 95]
-
- Answer: Doug Rand <drand@sgi.com> writes: "There are some examples in the
- demos tree, look under demos/lib/ExmCxx for widget examples. The C++ support
- was only a widget writer's tool. When the widget writer's guide is out, you
- can also look in that for documentation."
-
- Scott W. Sadler <sws@iti-oh.com> replied to a related question about combining
- Motif with C++: "There are two books available (that I know of):
-
- Object-Oriented Programming with C++ and OSF/Motif - Second Edition
- Doug Young 0-13-209255-7 (c) 1995
-
- Using Motif with C++
- Daniel Bernstein 0-13-207390-0 or 1-884842-06-2 (c) 1995"
-
- See also the subject: "Is there a C++ binding for Motif?"
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 23) Is Motif 2.0 backward compatible with Motif 1.2? Does a program
- written for Motif 1.2 compile and run with Motif 2.0?
- [Last modified: Jan 96]
-
- Answer: (See also the next subject.) Doug Rand <drand@sgi.com> writes: "It is
- backward compatible except where it isn't :)
-
- 1) Subclassed widgets which do not use XmResolvePartOffsets won't work.
-
- 2) If you free your XmStrings using any technique other than XmStringFree, it
- is quite likely that your program either won't compile, or will crash with a
-
-
- core dump at runtime. [Wording change for (2) provided by Alan Ezust
- (ezust@learnix.ca).]
-
- 3) If you use libMrm and relink with the new shared library, you'll need to
- make the new modern .uid files (but if you wait for the Motif from CDE you
- don't need to do this one).
-
- 4) If you assume that XmStrings are ASN.1 strings and play with them, it won't
- work. They are now data structures. But the good news is that XmStringCopy
- just increments a reference count now.
-
- Note that #1 and #2 where always documented this way and aren't supposed to
- work.
-
- Otherwise, it's pretty compatible. We relinked a number of things and they
- continued fine. [These] include xrn (Motif), and a couple of other moderately
- big things. I want to say we did xmosaic, but I can't remember if I'm right
- about that.
-
- #1 isn't a problem if you recompile your subclassed widgets. But then there
- is a source compatibility problem that you may need to include the obsolete
- modules for the _Xm functions. Proper 2.0 subclasses use Xme functions, and
- there is even a document."
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 24) How compatible are Motif 1.2.* and X11R6?
- [Last modified: July 96]
-
- Answer: (See also the previous subject.) This is actually several related
- questions with answers from David B. Lewis (d.lewis@opengroup.org) and Kenton
- Lee (http://www.rahul.net/kenton/).
-
- 1. Is it possible to run an X11R6 server with a Motif 1.2.* runtime
- environment (Motif libs and Motif Window Manager)?
-
- David> Yes. The X11 protocol has not changed in its various versions, so
- all X servers are compatible. There are differences, though, in
- the fonts that are available and in a few of the gray areas in the
- interpretation of the protocol. The fonts distributed by the X
- Consortium form a standard set, though, and I know of no cases in
- which changes in X11R6 cause problems for Motif programs (we are
- using Motif with X11R6 servers here).
-
- 2. Is there any possible conflict with Motif 1.2.* applications and an
- X11R6 server (assuming a Motif 1.2.* runtime environment)?
-
- David> The only situation that I could imagine is a case in which Motif
- 1.2 code was written to depend on a particular bug or behavior of
- an X11R5 server; I know of no such cases. Because of the stability
- of the X11 protocol, Motif 1.2 programs should work with any
- available X server, current and future.
-
- 3. If Motif 2.0 is installed such that the Motif libraries and mwm are
- versions 2.0, is there 100% binary compatibility with statically linked
- Motif 1.2.* applications? If not, what are the known or potential problems?
-
- David> There are additional support files in both the Motif and X11 areas
- which are used at run-time. There are no known problems using Motif
- 1.2 *static* applications in a Motif 2.0 environment.
-
- Kenton writes: R6 was designed to be backwards binary compatible with R5 and
- most vendors have done a good job in implementing this. Still, I wouldn't
- recommend that my customers do this until I tested configurations similar to
- theirs.
-
- Motif 2.0 is backwards compatible with Motif 1.X in most cases. I think Doug
- Rand's comments in [the previous subject of the Motif FAQ] covers the
- important issues. In general, well written applications shouldn't have
- problems, but some applications aren't well written. Again, I would test
- before making recommendations to my customers.
-
- The above comments apply to run-time linking (shared library) compatibility.
- If you statically link, the only problems I can imagine are the common ones
- like installed fonts, supported server extensions, input methods, color name
- databases, default visual types, etc.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 25) Why aren't the big UNIX vendors shipping Motif 2.0?
- [Last modified: Aug 98]
-
- Answer: Most of these companies decided to move to CDE 1.0 first. CDE 1.0
- uses Motif 1.2.5, which is not binary compatible with Motif 2.0.
-
- Motif 2.1 was released in February, 1997. Motif 2.1 is compatible with CDE
- 2.1 and (mostly) Motif 1.2. You should expect the big UNIX vendors to start
- shipping Motif 2.1 when they start shipping CDE 2.1.
-
- Ken Lee
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 26) Where can I get Motif for UNIX, Linux, or Microsoft Windows?
- [Last modified: Jun 98]
-
- Answer: A regularly updated list of Motif vendors for various operating
- systems (including Linux and Microsoft Windows) is available at:
- http://www.rahul.net/kenton/GettingMotif.html
-
- Please send any corrections to kenton@nojunk.rahul.net
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 27) Is there a list of Motif bugs?
-
- Answer: With each patch release of Motif shipped, there is a list of known
- bugs provided. The filename on the tape is "./OPENBUGS". There is also a
- list of all the issues closed/resolved in that patch. That is found as part
- of the "./README-1.1.n" (where n is the patch number) file.
-
- These are the only OSF published lists.
-
- No one else seems to publish a list.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 28) Where can I get a Motif 1.2 Certification Checklist?
- [Last modified: Apr 95]
-
- Answer: Kevin Till (kev@osf.org) of OSF wrote: "The Checklist comes with the
- OSF/Motif 1.2 Style Guide documentation. It's in the Appendix B section."
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 29) What is CDE? What is COSE and how does it relate to Motif?
- [Last modified: Sept 94]
-
- Answer: [For more current information, see also the subjects which follow
- this one.]
-
- NOTE: This info dates back to a Nov. '93 conference.
- Most of the words should be credited to the lecturer,
- Nicholas J. Aiuto (nick@ps.quotron.com) of Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
- Any mistakes or inaccuracies are mine, however.
- I would appreciate updates and corrections...kenton@nojunk.rahul.net
-
- COSE is Common Open Software Environment, a major interoperability effort
- started by HP, Sun, Novell/UNIX System Labs (USL), IBM, and SCO, with over 70
- other companies pledging their support. The COSE announcement was made in
- March, 1993 and a "COSE CDE Conference" was held in San Jose in October, 1993.
-
- CDE is the Common Desktop Environment component of COSE. CDE is "a
- specification for components and services to give the UNIX desktop common and
- consistent capabilities like those found in other widely used environments
- (Mac, Windows)." [from class notes] CDE is not public domain; it will be
- provided by major vendors, possibly at extra cost as unbundled s/w
- approximately mid 1994. CDE will be based on Motif 1.2 and X11R5, although
- Motif 2.0 and X11R6 are expected around the same time. (CDE will be ported to
- Motif 2.0 eventually.)
-
- A CD-ROM was distributed at the October, 1993 conference, but this was "alpha"
- s/w, strictly for evaluation purposes, not for development.
-
- Another COSE/CDE Snapshot CD-ROM was released in April '94, available for HP,
- IBM, Novell, and Sun platforms.
-
- Overview
- --------
-
- Standards are to be defined in these areas:
-
- - desktop
- - networking
- - objects
- - graphics
- - system management
-
- CDE Functional Groups:
-
- High Level:
- - Desktop Management
- - Productivity Tools
-
- Low Level:
- - GUI Display and Printing
- - Application Integration
- - "Guidelines": a 100+ pg. checklist which is a superset of Motif's
-
- CDE Desktop Management
- ----------------------
-
- - Login Manager: like xdm
- - Session Manager: saving state based on ICCCM and HP's VUE [vuesession]
- - Workspace Manager: virtual screens; rooms; virtual win mgr
- - Front Panel: object and window management; access to favorite apps
- - File Manager: icon drag and drop
- - Application Manager
- - Style Manager: configure Session Mgr (colors, fonts, HOME session)
-
- Productivity Tools
- ------------------
-
- - Text Editor: based on XmText widget; not very fancy
- - Icon Editor: color pixmaps; based on HP's vueicon; need 16 icons per app
- - Help Viewer: can access app help without running application
- - Mailer and Calendar: can talk to each other
- - Terminal Emulator: improvement on xterm
- - Calculator
- - Create "Action": something you tell your system to do and associate with
- a specific icon (e.g., starting a favorite app); can also
- tag a specific command line and add to your desktop
-
- GUI Display and Printing
- ------------------------
-
- - Motif 1.2 with extras, X11R5
- - New widgets (subclasses of similar widgets to be in Motif 2.0):
- o ComboBox
- o SpinButton
-
- - dtksh: windowing Korn shell, a robust UNIX shell interface to X, Xlib, and
- Xm
- - Application Builder: port of Sun's DevGuide [not yet available]
- - X Print Server and X Server Print Extension
-
- Application Integration
- -----------------------
-
- - Data Interchange
- o Drag and Drop (DND): based on Motif 1.2 with improvements
- o Bento container format:
- "Japanese lunchbox"
- compartmented container developed by Apple;
- stores compound document on disk;
- apps can find audio compartment, for example
- 100-page document describes Bento
- - ToolTalk
- o messaging/IPC facility developed by Sun
- o CDE message sets (sample msgsd: iconify yourself, close down, etc.)
- - Actions
- o define what can be done with files or arbitrary data (e.g., audio)
- - Data Typing
- o define data classes for objects (e.g., PS file, C source code)
-
- Guidelines
- ----------
-
- - Common Fonts (about 16): proportional, monospaced, with or without serif
- - Internationalization (I18N) compliance
- - Client/Server
- o Network execution model
- o end user model
- o system admin model: facilitates easy installation of new
- CDE-compliant apps
- o ISV model
- - Certification Checklist: 100 pages; superset of Motif 1.2 Certif. Checklist
-
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 30)* Is there a CDE FAQ or newsgroup?
- [Last modified: Aug 2001]
-
- Answer: The CDE FAQ is located at:
-
- http://www.laxmi.net/cde.htm
-
- There is also a newsgroup called news:comp.unix.cde
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 31) What is the current version of CDE and what are its features?
- [Last modified: May 97]
-
- Answer: The latest version of CDE is 2.1 as announced by OSF in February 1997.
- The following is the Open Group's press release:
-
-
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT
- Jane Smeloff
- The Open Group
- (617) 621-8997
- j.smeloff@opengroup.org
-
- Marilyn Kilcrease
- Fleishman Hillard, Inc.
- (415) 356-1031
- kilcream@fleishman.com
-
- The Open Group Announces Common Desktop Environment 2.1
-
- New features enhance the functionality and ease of use of the widely used
- graphical user interface for open desktop computing
-
-
- CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts (February 5, 1997) - The Open Group, the leading
- organization for the advancement of open systems, today announced the release
- of CDE 2.1, the latest version of The Open Group's Common Desktop Environment.
- The current release integrates the Motif 2.0 graphical user interface, X
- Window System, and CDE to standardize application presentations in distributed
- multi-platform environments.
-
- "As a result of solid cooperation among project participants, we are
- delivering significant new features which makes CDE and Motif a unified face
- for UNIX environments," said Dave Lounsbury, vice president of collaborative
- development. "The CDE 2.1 project was the most extensive collaborative
- development effort in the history of The Open Group."
-
- The latest release of CDE features enhanced tools for creating integrated
- graphical desktop applications. New features include thread-safe libraries,
- 64-bit system support, an X-based printing solution that implements a standard
- way of printing from any application, an enhanced, SGML-based on-line help
- system with a complete documentation set, "on the spot" input, and user-
- defined characters for Asian languages. Many capabilities have been added to
- ease programming, including traits, which enable user interface objects to
- automatically inherit multiple API specifications, and a uniform transfer
- model, which offer developers a consistent means of coding the different
- data-transfer mechanisms (such as cut-and-paste and drag-and-drop). The new
- release also provides a simple means of coding pop-up windows.
-
- CDE 2.1 also incorporates Motif 2.0 user interface objects (widgets) spin box,
- combo box, container, and notebook. With this release, the style guides for
- CDE and Motif converge.
-
- The fee for a CDE 2.1 full-distribution source code license is $40,000. An
- evaluation copy of source code costs $5,000. To order CDE 2.1, contact Open
- Group Direct, at 1-800-268-5245, or send e-mail to direct@opengroup.org.
-
- Introduced in 1995, CDE was jointly developed and licensed by Hewlett-Packard,
- IBM, Novell, and SunSoft. Since that time, the technology has evolved within
- The Open Group's Pre-Structured Technology (PST) process, a multi-vendor
- technology development program. Currently, Hitachi, Fujitsu, Digital Equipment
- Corporation and SCO work with the original CDE sponsors, IBM, HP and SunSoft
- within the Open Group's PST framework, to provide for the maintenance of CDE
- and the development of new releases.
-
- The Common Desktop Environment is a graphical user interface that delivers
- consistency and ease of use to system administrators as well as end users.
- With CDE, system administrators gain a degree of control over the desktop
- computing environment that has often been lost in the move from centralized to
- client-server or distributed computing. CDE gives end users access to the
- power and flexibility of today's networked desktop systems.
-
- The Open Group
-
- Dedicated to the advancement of multi-vendor information systems, The Open
- Group is an international consortium of systems and software vendors and
- customers from the industry, government and academia. The Open Group and its
- members work together to strengthen and streamline the development process and
- availability of open systems. The organization provides a focal point for the
- development of international specifications and test suites, standards based
- technologies, advanced open systems research, professional services and the
- management of the internationally recognized brand for open systems. The Open
- Group's brand mark is recognized worldwide and is a guarantee of compliance to
- open systems specifications. The Open Group is Headquartered in Cambridge, MA,
- with European headquarters in Reading, England and offices in Menlo Park, CA;
- Brussels, Belgium; Grenoble, France; and Tokyo, Japan.
-
- The Open Group is a trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc. and X/Open
- Company Ltd. OSF/Motif and Motif are registered trademarks of The Open Group.
- X Window System is a trademark of The Open Group and the X Consortium is a
- trademark of The Open Group. UNIX is a registered trademark in the US and
- other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company Ltd. All other
- products or company names mentioned are used for identification purposes only,
- and may be trademarks of their respective owners.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 32) How does Motif relate to X/Open and CDE?
- [Last modified: Mar 96]
-
- A. NOTE: This answer from Sept. 1995 is somewhat obsolete due to the
- formation of The Open Group. See "What is The Open Group?"....ksall@cen.com
-
- From OSF's CDE/Motif Program Manager, Terry Landers (landers@osf.org):
-
- "In response to the discussion [on comp.windows.x.motif] of Motif and
- "officially supported" APIs ... two areas were brought up that I hope to be
- able to clarify.
-
-
- Standards:
- =========
- As you probably know, Motif has become an X/Open standard.
- The X/Open specification was based on the OSF AES, and going
- forward the X/Open specification will take precedence.
-
- As part of the CDE/Motif PST, interface extensions to
- the XMotif specification will be proposed to X/Open.
-
- Although it is too early to discuss what will be proposed
- to X/Open, OSF members who are interested will have early
- access to CDE/Motif functional specifications as part of
- the Desktop SIG activities.
-
- Convergence:
- ===========
- OSF has taken the first step in convergence with the release
- of Motif 1.2.5. Motif 1.2.5 merges OSF Motif 1.2.4 with
- CDE Motif and defect fixes to the 1.2 code base that were
- made in Motif 2.0.
-
- The next step in convergence will come with the CDE/Motif PST
- deliverables.
-
- I hope this has helped ... if you have any questions you can
- contact me at:
-
- landers@osf.org
- 617-621-7282"
-
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 33) What is The Open Group?
- [Last modified: Aug 97]
-
- Answer: On February 14, 1996, X/Open and OSF merged to form "The Open Group".
-
- which calls The Open Group a "New Organization to Improve Coordination of
- Efforts to Develop and Implement Common Standards and New Technologies". You
- might also want to read other press releases from The Open Group and visit
- their home page:
-
- http://www.opengroup.org/
-
- Below is the announcement sent by OSF's Kristen Knotts...ksall@cen.com
-
-
- To: OSF.Support.Subscribers:;@osf.org
- Subject: X/Open & OSF Join to Form The Open Group
- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:26:53 -0500
- From: Kristen Knotts <kjk@osf.org>
-
- During a press conference at UniForum '96, officials of X/Open Company,
- Ltd. and the Open Software Foundation (OSF), the two leading consortia for
- the advancement of open systems, announced their consolidation into a new,
- more powerful worldwide organization known as The Open Group.
-
- The new entity has been formed to strengthen and streamline the entire open
- systems process, including adoption of open systems specifications,
- development of specification-compliant technologies, and promotion of their
- use in the global enterprise computing marketplace. Full information can
- be obtained from The Open Group Web Site:
-
- http://www.opengroup.org/
-
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 34) Is The Open Group assuming responsibility for the X Window
- System?
- [Last modified: July 96]
-
- A. Yes it will, at the beginning of 1997. See the X Consortium's announcement
- at:
-
- X Consortium to Transfer X Window System to The Open Group
-
- It is reproduced _in part_ below for your convenience, followed by a related
- announcement from The Open Group.
-
- Cambridge, Massachusetts - July 1, 1996 - X Consortium, Inc.
- today announced that it would transfer responsibility for the X
- Window System to The Open Group at the beginning of next year. "X
- is now mainstream technology, and since the first commercial release
- in 1986 it has matured to the point where a dedicated consortium is no
- longer essential to its on-going support," explains Robert W. Scheifler,
- president of the X Consortium. "Our industry will benefit greatly by
- continuing and accelerating the convergence of X, Motif and the
- Common Desktop Environment (CDE) into a unified technology
- stack. This is already well underway with the current CDE-Motif
- PST project, operating under the auspices of The Open Group, an
- organization that is well positioned to take this technology into the
- future." The Open Group will continue their existing work of
- publishing, testing and branding products which conform to
- international standards, including X.
-
- "As a long standing partner with the X Consortium in the Open
- Systems industry, The Open Group supports this decision. On a
- personal note, I want to add that the computer industry owes an
- enormous debt of gratitude to Bob Scheifler and the X Consortium for
- the service they have provided for the last eight years," commented
- Jim Bell, CEO of The Open Group. "Their very positive impact on our
- industry will continue to be felt for years to come."
-
- As part of this change, X Consortium plans to wind down all
- engineering operations at the end of this year. "I have made a
- commitment to our members, and to the sponsors of the CDE-Motif
- project, to oversee the entire transition process from now until our
- current engineering projects are finished and the hand-off is
- complete," said Scheifler. The X Consortium will work with its
- members and The Open Group to determine whether the organization
- should continue on in some reduced fashion.
-
- Broadway, the code name for the next release of the X Window
- System, will be completed as planned by the end of the year, and will
- be made freely available to the public under the same terms as
- previous X Consortium releases. Broadway enables interactive UNIX
- and Windows applications to be integrated, unmodified, into HTML
- documents and published on World Wide Web servers, using plug-in
- technology, and includes network protocols for graphics and audio to
- provide remote access to those applications from inside Web
- browsers. The Broadway release is expected to be available from
- current sources, including worldwide ftp sites and CDROM
- distributors.
-
- The X Consortium will fulfill its obligations as prime contractor in The
- Open Group's Pre-Structured Technology (PST) project developing
- the next release of CDE and Motif. "The plan has always been to
- complete both the CDE-Motif project and Broadway by the end of
- this year," says Jim Fournier, Director of Engineering. "We are
- confident in our ability to deliver as planned."
-
- ************************
-
- A related announcement from corpcom@opengroup.com (The Open Group Corporate
- Communications) was sent July 1, 1996, an excerpt of which appears below:
-
- The Open Group Continues to Expand Product and Services Portfolio
-
- Leading Open Systems Consortium
- Absorbs X Window System Technology
-
- The Open Group announced today as an addition to its growing portfolio of
- products and services, it will assume custodianship for the X Window System
- technology, currently owned and managed by the X Consortium. In its
- press release today, the X Consortium also declared that it will continue to
- fulfill its obligations as prime contractor in The Open Group CDE Pre-
- Structured Technology (PST) project, developing the next releases of CDE and
- Motif, scheduled to be completed by year end, and then cease its internal
- engineering operations.
-
- "Since its first commercial release in 1986, the X Window System has
- matured to the point where a full-scale, dedicated consortium is no longer
- essential to the on-going support of the technology," said Robert W. Scheifler,
- X Consortium president and founder. "In light of our existing relationship it
- makes sense to fold our ongoing work into The Open Group. Furthermore,
- given the overlapping membership of the two organizations, this move will
- greatly streamline and enhance the process of defining open standards."
-
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 35) What are the current correct trademark statements for X and
- Motif?
- [Last modified: May 97]
-
- Answer: The Open Group is a trademark of the Open Software Foundation, Inc.
- and X/Open Company Ltd. OSF/Motif and Motif are registered trademarks of The
- Open Group. X Window System is a trademark of The Open Group and the X
- Consortium is a trademark of The Open Group. UNIX is a registered trademark
- in the US and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company
- Ltd.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Subject: 36) Will CDE and Motif converge? What is the CDE/Motif JDA?
- [Last modified: May 97]
-
- Answer: I'm leaving the following announcement here for historical reference.
- Note that the converged CDE/Motif was released in February, 1997 and is called
- CDE/Motif 2.1. A press release is included earlier in this FAQ.
-
- In September, 1995, OSF announced the Joint Development Agreement under which
- vendors will participate in a plan to converge Motif and CDE. The announcement
- follows.
-
- From kjk@osf.org Fri Sep 8 17:55:55 1995
- To: OSF.Motif.Support.Subscribers:;@osf.org
- Cc: OSF.Service.Subscribers:;@osf.org
- Subject: OSF Press Release Announcing Signing of CDE/Motif JDA
- Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:46:04 -0400
- From: Kristen Knotts <kjk@osf.org>
-
- To: OSF Motif Support Subscribers
- From: The Open Software Foundation
-
- ************************************************************
- OSF MOTIF SUPPORT ELECTRONIC UPDATE
- ************************************************************
- An electronic mail news update for Motif Support Subscribers
- from the Open Software Foundation (OSF)
-
-
- CONTACT: Jack Dwyer
- Open Software Foundation
- (617) 621-7246
- Email: dwyer@osf.org
-
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- OSF Announces Formal Launch of CDE/Motif Project
-
- Multi-vendor project to enhance and converge OSF/Motif and the Common
- Desktop Environment
-
- CAMBRIDGE, MA September 7, 1995 -- The Open Software Foundation today
- announced the formal signing of the Joint Development Agreement for the
- further enhancement and evolution of the Common Desktop Environment (CDE)
- and OSF/Motif under the Open Software Foundation's Pre-Structured
- Technology (PST) development process. The seven sponsors of the CDE/Motif
- PST are Digital Equipment Corp., Fujitsu Limited, Hewlett-Packard Company,
- Hitachi, Ltd, IBM Corp., Novell, Inc., and SunSoft, Inc.
-
- The CDE/Motif PST is a cooperative, multi-vendor, development project. The
- Open Software Foundation's PST process allows for existing technologies
- from multiple vendors to be further developed and integrated into a
- complete open system technology. The X Consortium has been designated as
- the project's prime contractor.
-
- CDE/Motif will continue the evolution of the desktop technologies necessary
- to meet the expanding user requirements in such areas as On-line
- Information Access, Printing, and Internationalization. A key objective of
- the PST is to fully converge OSF/Motif and the CDE version of Motif into a
- single development stream. The resulting PST technology will be binary
- compatible with CDE 1.0.
-
- Mr. Don Harbert, Vice President of UNIX Business Segment for Digital
- Equipment Corporation said, "Digital is an enthusiastic participant in the
- development of the next version of CDE. As a founding member of the Open
- Software Foundation and the first vendor to ship a commercial version of
- the X Window System, Digital recognizes the importance of standard user
- interfaces and the importance of the PST process in developing code."
-
- "Fujitsu is pleased to support the evolution of CDE and Motif technology,
- both by contributing the Fujitsu OLIAS technology for a robust CDE Online
- Information Access feature, and by improving CDE/Motif
- Internationalization. Providing a common user interface over many different
- hardware systems is critical to the future of Open Systems", said Mitsuru
- Sanagi, General Manager of the Client Server System Strategy and Alliance
- Division, Fujitsu Limited.
-
- "As one of the original development partners for CDE and as a current
- supplier of CDE technology in AIX, IBM is committed to enhanced usability
- for our AIX customers," said Donna Van Fleet, Vice President for AIX
- Systems Development, IBM RISC System/6000 Division. "Now, as one of the
- sponsors of this new PST, we continue the enhancements to CDE that will
- provide even more ease-of-use value for our customers, while maintaining
- all the benefits of an open technology."
-
- "CDE is important, industry-unifying technology and Novell is looking
- forward to working with the other CDE/Motif sponsors to continue its
- development," noted Don McGovern, Vice President, Operating System
- Division, Novell, Inc.
-
- "As chair of the CDE/Motif PST Steering Committee, SunSoft is pleased by
- the active participation and strong commitment for this project. This
- clearly underscores the strong industry support for open systems," said
- Paula Sager, Vice President of Desktop Technologies, SunSoft, Inc. "We are
- looking forward to working with our partners to deliver the best open user
- environment available."
-
- "We're excited that we are able to contribute to this important industry
- initiative ", said Robert W. Scheifler, President of X Consortium.
- "CDE/Motif combines premier desktop technologies and builds on what is now
- a long line of products founded upon X. There is a lot of synergy between
- the X Consortium's objectives and the goals of the CDE/Motif PST. Our
- involvement as the prime contractor for this project is a logical extension
- of that fact."
-
- The base technologies for the CDE/Motif PST are CDE 1.0 and OSF/Motif 2.0.
- On-line Information Access will include an SGML-based browser, the ability
- to display and print SGML documents, full text search and retrieval, and
- integration with the on-line help facility. Enhanced internationalization
- capabilities will include the ability to display vertical text, support for
- user defined characters, input method selection at run time, and an
- on-the-spot input method capability. Print capabilities include a graphical
- interface for print job submission, a single API for both display and
- printing, printing support for Motif text and label widgets, help,
- calendar, mail and the text editor. In the process, CDE/Motif will be made
- thread safe and will include support for 64-bit architectures.
-
- The output of this PST joint development will be a merged CDE/Motif source
- package, a standalone version of Motif, and conformance tests for both CDE
- and Motif. Upon completion, the conformance test suites will be offered to
- X/Open for their branding purposes. Also offered to X/Open will be a merged
- style guide for CDE and Motif, the Motif Drag and Drop protocol, and API
- extensions to CDE and Motif.
-
- The first deliverable of the CDE/Motif PST will be a maintenance release
- for CDE 1.0 planned for the end of 1995. The schedule further calls for a
- CDE/Motif snapshot to be made available to licensees in mid-1996, with
- general availability of CDE/Motif scheduled for the end of 1996.
-
- For more information on CDE/Motif, you are invited to contact David Knorr,
- OSF CDE/Motif Business Area Manager, at +617-621-7227 or dknorr@osf.org.
-
- The Open Software Foundation delivers technology innovations in all areas
- of open systems, including interoperability, scalability, portability, and
- usability. OSF has created a coalition of worldwide vendors and users in
- industry, government and academia that leverage their economic investments
- by working together to provide the best open systems technology solutions
- for distributed computing environments. Headquartered in Cambridge, MA,
- with offices in Brussels, Grenoble and Tokyo, OSF has more then 380 members
- worldwide.
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-
- OSF, OSF/Motif, and Open Software Foundation are trademarks of the Open
- Software Foundation, Inc.
-
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- Subject: 37)* Has anyone done a public domain Motif lookalike?
- [Last modified: Feb 02]
-
- Answer: Open Motif is open source, but not public domain. This following may
- be of interest to public domain purists.
-
- LessTif is a freeware version of Motif from the Hungry Programmers. It is
- still in development and is intended to be source code compatible with Motif,
- meaning that the same source will compile with both libraries and work exactly
- the same. [Thanks to John W. Carbone, jwc@li.net, Chris Toshok
- (toshok@hungry.com), and Jon Fo (jonf@protocol.com)] For more information, see
- http://www.lesstif.org/
-
- Tcl/Tk is available for ftp from allspice.berkeley.edu, and although
- implemented without Xt, has a "strict Motif" mode. There is also Tix, the Tk
- Interface Extension. See:
-
- http://www.sunlabs.com/research/tcl/
- http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~ioi/tix/tix.html
-
- Strom Sytems (18666 Redmond Way o-2118, Redmond, WA 98052-6725) have a Simple
- Toolkit for X-Windows (sic) that appears to follow the Style Guide even though
- it doesn't quite look like Motif.
-
- MOOLIT is a USL product that can be runtime switched between the Sun Open Look
- and Motif appearance. It is based on OLIT 4i.
-
- Interviews is a C++ based product with appearance similar to Motif. A ftp-
- able version of the source code and documentation can be found on
- interviews.stanford.edu. Fresco (http://www.iuk.tu-harburg.de/fresco/) and
- ivtools (http://www.vectaport.com/ivtools/) are based on Interviews.
-
- Simon J. Lyall (simon@darkmere.midland.co.nz) reported about a package called:
- Xu-lib & Widget Set- a library & widget set to "emulate" the look&feel and the
- programming interface of Motif. Contact the author Udo Baumgart
- (U.BAUMGART@ldb.han.de) for details.
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- Subject: 38) Does the Open Group have an application compliance validation
- service?
- [Last modified: Aug 97]
-
- Answer: The Motif Toolkit API Verification Suite (VSM4) replaces the earlier
- Motif Branding Program. For more information on VSM4, see
- http://www.opengroup.org/tech/desktop/ordering/motif.price.list.htm#branding
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- Subject: 39) What is the motif-talk mailing list?
-
- Answer: The motif-talk mailing list is only for those who have purchased a
- Motif source code license. You can be placed on this list by emailing to
- motif-talk-request@osf.org, citing your Company name and source license
- number.
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