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- Rec.Models.Rockets Frequently Asked Questions: PART 07 OF 14
-
- SCALE MODELING
-
- NOTE: This section was originally edited for the FAQ by Bob Biedron, the
- 1992 FAI World Champion scale spacemodeler. It has since been
- edited by others, including Buzz McDermott, Peter Alway, Sven Knudsen,
- and Wolfram von Kiparski. Opinions expressed in this section should not
- be taken as those of Bob, and should be considered a composite work of
- submitters to this section in general, and not endorsements by any one
- of the editors/submitters. A special thanks goes to Peter Alway for
- extensive editing and additions to this section.
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.1 I would like to make a scale model of the <??> rocket. Where do I
- start looking for technical data, dimensions, flight substantiation data, etc.?
-
- A great place to start looking would be Peter Alway's book of scale data,
- "Rockets of the World." This book was first published in 1993. A second
- edition was published (hard cover only) in 1995. This book is a reference
- collection of scale data assembled specifically for modelers. Peter also
- has another book, "The Art of Scale Model Rocketry." This book is
- describes scale modeling techniques, and includes limited scale data. It
- also includes model plans and an index of scale data sources.
- See Part 2 of the FAQ for address information.
-
- Those wanting to construct detailed models may need additional data.
- This usually presents something of a problem. Back issues of
- "Sport Rocketry" and "American Spacemodeling" are a source of scale
- information and detailed data. The old "Model Rocketry" and "Model
- Rocketeer" also had a number of articles over the years. The last
- three magazines are no longer in print. With the exception of articles
- in AmSpam and SRM after 1990, all photos in the above mentioned magazines
- are black and white.
-
- If none of the above sources contain data on the prototype that you
- want to build, or if you require more data than is found in these
- sources, then two routes are open. First, ask around - someone may
- already have data on the prototype that you seek. Many (most?) people
- collect data without actually ever building a model. Others never get
- around to publishing their data. NASA and the National Air and Space
- Museum can be good sources of data (see addresses below). If you still
- have no luck in finding the data you need, try writing the manufacturer
- directly. The response you get from the manufacturer depends on a couple
- of factors. First, your letter must end up on someone's desk who is
- sympathetic to your cause and is willing to do some digging in the
- archives. Second, the data you request must still exist! - often,
- blueprints, photos etc. are thrown away after the manufacturer ceases
- to produce the prototype. When writing a manufacturer, be as specific
- as possible about the type of data you require, and explain why you
- want the material. Peter Alway has further tips for tracking down
- data in his book.
-
- There is a surprising amount of scale data out there, from simple
- overall configuration drawings to those showing screw/bolt dimensions.
- The following list is derived from one Kevin McKiou submitted to this
- newsgroup in February of 1992. Peter Alway added to it in November of
- 1995. It contains the majority of the scale data that has been published
- in the model rocket literature to date, as well as listings of the
- "private stashes" of a few individuals.
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.2 What are some specific sources for general scale data?
-
- Available from NARTS (price below + 10% standard postage ($1.50 min)):
-
- NARTS
- P.O. Box 1482
- Saugus, MA 01906
- email: narts@nar.org
- http://www.nar.org/NARTS
-
- Aerobee 350-Full substantiation data with plans, three color
- slides, and one b & W slide.
- SP-1 $3.50
-
- Aerobee Photos-Four 8 x 10 color photographs of the same Aerobee
- 350 flight as SP-1. These photos are slightly different views
- than those in the SP-1 packets
- SP-1A $10.50
-
- ISQY Tomahawk-This packet contains plans, an 8 x 10 B & W photo,
- and a history of this single stage sounding rocket which was
- developed for the International Year of the Quiet Sun.
- SP-2 $4.00
-
- Super Loki Dart-This packet contains complete data including two
- 8 1/2 x 11 drawings, a label detail sheet, background information-
- tion, color documentation, and four 8 x 10 B & W photos.
- SP-3 $4.00
-
- Sandhawk-This packet consists of a set of plans, history on the
- vehicle, and an 8 x 10 color photograph of the vehicle on its
- launcher.
- SP-4 $5.00
-
- Scale Data Reduction Sheets-Handy sheets for competition scale
- packets. Includes spaces for scale factor, prototype dimensions,
- and model dimensions. Set of 10.
- SDRS $1.00
-
- "Sport Rocketry Magazine" is the official publication of the National
- Association of Rocketry (NAR). The address of the NAR is given else-
- where in the FAQ. Prior to October 1993, the journal was titled
- "American Spacemodeling". Scale data has been published on the
- following:
-
- Razumov-Shtern (w/SpSc model plans) Scale Nov/Dec 1996
- Talos Missile Scale Summer 1996
- Judi-Robin Balloon Dart Scale May/Jun 1996
- Vostok (w/SpSc model plans) Scale Mar/Apr 1996
- Hopi-Dart Scale Holiday 1995
- Saturn IB Scale Jan/Feb 1995
- Raven Scale Oct 1994
- Saturn V (Overall view) Scale Aug 1994
- N1 (colors) Sport Scale Aug 1994
- N1 (dimensions) Sport Scale Jun 1994
- Vanguard (B&W photo) Semi-scale Jan/Feb 1993
- D-Region Tomahawk (color photos) Scale Jan/Feb 1992
- Corporal Sport Scale Sep/Oct 1991
- SCUD-B Sport Scale Jul/Aug 1991
- Little Joe II-Part 2 (color photos) Scale Jul/Aug 1991
- Little Joe II-Part 1 (color photos) Scale May/Jun 1991
- Saturn V-Part IV-Apollo Spacecraft Scale Mar/Apr 1991
- Saturn V Part III Scale Dec 1989
- Saturn V Part II Scale Nov 1989
- Saturn V Part I Scale Jul 1989
- Delta Family Album-Pictorial Guide Sep/Oct 1990
- Scout Sept 1988
- Juno 1 Scale Jan 1988
- Nike-Hercules Scale Aug 1984
-
- "Rockets of the World: Second Edition"
- by Peter Alway. 384 pages, hard cover.
-
- THE DEFINITIVE SCALE MODELERS' GUIDE. Currently in print. See Part
- 2 of this FAQ for address.
-
- Included in ROTW:
-
- 1. Dimensioned drawings, color-keyed drawings, B&W photographs, and
- brief histories of selected rockets:
- Germany:
- - Maul Photo Rocket - Winkler's HW-2 - A-3
- - V-2 (A-4) - OTRAG 1
- The USSR, Russia and Ukraine:
- - GIRD 09 - GIRD X - V-2-A
- - V-5-V Vertikal 1 - V-11-A - M-100B
- - MR-12 - MMR-06 - MR-20
- - Sputnik - Vostok/Luna - Soyuz
- - Small Cosmos B-1 - Large Cosmos C-1 - V-3-A Vertikal
- - Proton - Tsyklon - N-1 moon rocket
- - Zenit - Energiya-Buran
- United States:
- - Goddard's March 16, 1926 Rocket - Goddard's L-16
- - American Rocket Society ARS-2 - Wac Corporal
- - Bumper - Aerobee - Aerobee-Hi/150
- - Aerobee 300 - Aerobee 150A - Aerobee 350
- - Viking - Deacon - Deacon Rockoon
- - Terrapin - Asp - Loki Rockoon
- - Loki HASP - Super Loki Dart - Arcas
- - Sparrow-HV Arcas - IRIS - IQSY Tomahawk
- - D-Region Tomahawk - Sandia Tomahawk - Sandhawk
- - Terrier-Sandhawk - Nike-Deacon - Nike-Cajun
- - Nike-Asp - Nike-Apache - Nike-Tomahawk
- - Nike-Smoke - Argo D-4 Javelin - Trailblazer I
- - Taurus-Tomahawk - Hermes RV-A-10 - X-17
- - Ram B - Shotput - Little Joe I
- - Trailblazer II - Astrobee 500 - Astrobee 1500
- - Astrobee D - Aries - Vanguard
- - Juno 1/Jupiter C - Mercury-Redstone - Sparta-Wresat
- - Jupiter - Juno II - Thor-Able
- - Thor-Agena A - Delta B - Delta E
- - Delta M - Delta II - MX-774
- - Atlas-Score - Mercury-Atlas - Atlas-Agena D
- - Atlas-Centaur - Scout - Little Joe II
- - Apollo Pad Abort Test - Gemini-Titan II
- - Titan IIIC - Titan IIIB - Titan IIIE
- - Titan IV - Saturn I - Saturn IB
- - Saturn V - Space Shuttle - Pegasus
- - DC-X
- France:
- - Veronique - Vesta - Dragon III
- - Diamant A - Diamant B - Diamant B-P4
- Japan:
- - Kappa 6 - Kappa 7 - Kappa 9
- - Lambda 4S - Mu 4S - Mu 3S-II
- China:
- - Long March 3
- United Kingdom:
- - Skylark - Black Knight - Black Arrow
- India:
- - Rohini RH-75 - SLV-3
- Argentina:
- - Orion II
- Australia:
- - HAD - Aero-High
- Brazil:
- - Sonda 1 - Sonda 2
- Canada:
- - Black Brant II - Black Brant III - Black Brant IV
- - Black Brant V - Black Brant X
- Poland:
- - Meteor 1 - Meteor 2K - Meteor 3
- - RP-3 - Rasko 2
- Spain:
- - INTA-255
- Europe:
- - Europa - Ariane 1 - Ariane 4
- - Maxus
-
- Mail order Resources: Addresses for companies and institutions
- selling scale drawings or photographs. Each drawing also provides
- sources for more data in case you desire more detail.
-
- Advanced Rocketry Group Ltd.
- 130 Matheson Blvd, East - Unit 10
- Mississauga, Ontarion
- L4Z 1Y6 Canada
-
- Source of Ukranian and Russian launch vehicle scale data
- Black Brandt series scale data
-
-
- The Launch Pad
- 8470-H Misty Blue Court
- Springfield, VA 22153
- (703) 455-8418
-
- Source of military missile scale data
-
-
- "T minus 5" is the bi-monthly newsletter of the Huron Valley Rocket
- Society (HUVARS) NAR Section #463. HUVARS is the NAR section with
- which Peter Alway is associated. In the past it has been rich with
- scale data and plans. Peter Alway has been a big contributor to
- this and hopefully this tradition will continue now that Peter has
- published his books.
-
- Non-member subscriptions to "T minus 5" are $8.00 (U.S. and Canada)
- and $11.00 elsewhere. Send correspondence to:
-
- Jim Fackert
- Huron Valley Rocket Society
- 10555 McCabe Rd.
- Brighton, MI 48116
-
- "Model Rocketeer" was the official publication of the NAR from
- 1971 through June, 1984.
- Scale Data Published:
- Nike-Tomahawk Scale Feb 1974
- V-2 Scale Jun 1976
- Trailblazer 2 Scale Nov 1980
-
- "Model Rocketry" was published by George Flynn in the late 60's
- and early 70's.
- Scale Data Published:
- Viking Scale Jan 1969
- Asp Scale May 1969
- Rohini RH-75 Scale Aug 1969
- Little Joe II Scale Sept 1969
- Nike-Smoke Scale Oct 1969
- Nike-Apache Scale Nov 1969
- Pershing Scale Jan 1970
- HAD Scale Apr 1970
- Vostok Scale Jul/Aug 1970
- Falcon (AIM-4E) Scale Sept 1970
- Skua Scale Oct 1970
- Astrobee-D Scale Nov 1970
- Aero-High Scale Oct 1971
- D-Region Tomahawk Scale Jun 1971
- Black Brant II Scale Dec 1971
-
- Aerospace Industry/U.S. Government Contacts:
-
- A very good source of photographs of NASA launch vehicles is the NASA
- Photography Index which you can get for free by sending a request to:
-
- NASA
- Audio Visual Section, LFD-10
- Public Affairs Division
- 400 Maryland Ave, S.W.
- Washington D.C. 20546
- (202) 453-8375
- `
- Photos can be ordered from the Index for a very reasonable cost.
-
-
- National Aeronautics and Space Administration
- History Office
- NASA HQ LH-14
- Washington, DC 20546
-
- This source was recommended by a museum technician at the Smithsonian
- Institution at the National Air and Space Museum (see following).
-
- National Air and Space Museum
- Archives (Bldg 12)
- 3904 Old Silver Hill Rd
- Suitland, MD 20746-3190
-
- Received prompt service (2 weeks) from Paul Silbermann, Museum
- Technician. This is a part of the Smithsonian Institution.
-
- Aerojet-General Corp.
- 1051 La Jolla Rancho Rd.
- La Jolla, CA 92037
-
- Builders of the Aerobee and Astrobee series of sounding rockets
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- Display Locations
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- * Aberdeen Proving Grounds Armaments Museum
- Nike-Ajax on launcher, Nike-Hercules on launcher, Pershing II, US
- Army missiles?, V-2 on carrier, Wasserfall, WWII German SAM?, V-1
-
- * Air Force Armament Museum at Eglin Air Force Base, SE of Pensacola,
- FL
- Bomarc, Bullpup, Sidewinder
-
- * Alabama Welcome Center, I-65 south, near TN-AL line
- Saturn IB
-
- * American legion Hall, Lakewood, NY
- Nike-Hercules
-
- * Ames Research Center, Mountain View,
- Gemini 11?, Skylab 3?
-
- * Neil Armstrong Museum, Wapakoneta, Ohio
- Gemini 8
-
- * Alabama Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville, AL
- Apollo 16, Atlas, Corporal, Entac, Hawk, Hermes A-1, Honest John,
- Juno I, Juno II, Jupiter, Lacrosse, Little John, Mercury Sigma
- 7?, Mercury-Redstone, Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules, Nike-Zeus,
- Pershing, Redstone (tactical), Saturn I, Block 2, Saturn V,
- Sergeant, Space Shuttle Mockup, Sprint, Titan I, V-2, X-15 mockup
-
- * Astronaut Hall of Fame, Titusville, FL
- Mercury Sigma 7?
-
- * Bowfin Submarine Museum, Honolulu?, HI
- Harpoon, Polaris A-1, Polaris A-3, Subroc, Tomahawk Cruise
- Missile
-
- * Centennial Park, Laurence, KS
- Polaris A-1
-
- * Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum, Rantoul, IL
- Bomarc, Minuteman
-
- * Museum of Science and Industry, Chicago, IL
- Apollo 8, Arcas, Lunar Module, Polaris
-
- * Combat Air Museum, Topeka, KS
- Honest John, Nike-Ajax
-
- * Cosmos Pavilion (now car showroom, some exhibits may
- remain), Formerly of Exhibition of Economic Achievement,
- Moscow, Russia
- M-100B?, MR-12?, MR-20?, Vostok?
-
- * Behind a Denny's, off I-75 near Warner Robbins, GA
- Titan II
-
- * Detroit Science Center, Detroit, MI
- Nike-"smoke"
-
- * Fireworks Factory, US 72, South Pittsburg, TN
- Honest John
-
- * Florence Air & Missile Museum, Florence, SC
- Bomarc, Entac, Honest John, Sparrow, Titan I
-
- * Fort Lewis Museum, Fortlewis, near Tacoma, WA
- Honest John, Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules
-
- * Fort Meade base museum, Fort Meade, MD
- Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules
-
- * Goddard Spaceflight Center, Greenbelt, MD
- Delta-B, Gemini 12?, IRIS, Javelin, Nike-Black Brant, Nike-
- Tomahawk
-
- * Golden Gate National Recreation Reserve
- Nike-?
-
- * Grissom Memorial Museum, Spring Mill State Park, IN
- Gemini Spacecraft
-
- * Grissom Memorial Museum, Mitchell, IN
- Gemini 3
-
- * Aerospace Park, Hampton, VA
- Corporal, Jupiter, Little Joe I, Nike-Ajax, Polaris A-2
-
- * Hill Air Force Base Museum
- Bomarc, Minuteman, MX-stage
-
- * Hong Kong Space Museum, Hong Kong
- Mercury Aurora 7?
-
- * Airport road & S. Memorial Parkway, Huntsville, AL
- Hermes
-
- * VFW post on N. Memorial Parkway, Huntsville, AL
- Corporal
-
- * Illinois Soldiers & Sailors Home, Quincy, IL
- Bomarc, Titan I
-
- * International Space Hall of Fame, Alamogordo, NM
- Aerobee 150 (2 displayed), Aerobee 170 tail unit, Arcas, Loki-Dart,
- Falcon, Hawk, Lance, LM ascent engine, Javelin 4th stage motor,
- Little Joe II (not accurate), F1 engine, J2 engine, V-2 engine,
- Nike-Ajax w/launcher, Nike-Cajun, Syncom apogee kick motor,
- Sonic Wind No. 1 rocket sled (Stapp's sled), XLR-11 engine
-
- * ISAS, Sagamihara Japan
- M2-SIII
-
- * Japan Science Society, Tokyo
- Gemini 11?, Mercury Aurora 7?, Skylab 3?
-
- * Jordell Bank Radio Observatory Visitor Center, Cheshire, England
- Skylark
-
- * Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
- Corporal, Sergeant
-
- * Johnson Space Center, Houston, TX
- Apollo 17, F-1 engine (Saturn V), Gemini 5, H-1 engine (Saturn I
- or IB), J-2 engine (S-IVB, S-II), Little Joe II, Mercury Faith 7,
- Mercury-Redstone, Saturn V
-
- * Kansas Cosmosphere, Hutchinson, KS
- Agena, F-1 Engine, Lunar Module Mock-up, Mercury-redstone, Nike-
- Hercules, Titan I, Titan II engine, V-2
-
- * Keesler Air Force Base, Biloxi, MS
- Bomarc
-
- * Kennedy Space Center
- ASTP, Atlas-Agena, F-1 engine, Gemini 9, Gemini-Titan II,
- J-2 Engine, Lunar Module, Mercury-Atlas, Mercury-Redstone, Saturn 1B,
- Saturn V, Space Shuttle Orbiter mockup, Navaho SM-64 (X-10)
-
- * 108th Light Anti-Aircraft Missile Batallion, North end
- of Fresno Air Terminal, Fresno, CA
- Hawk
-
- * Leicester University Physics Department lobby, Leicester,
- England
- Skylark
-
- * London Science Museum, London, England
- Apollo 10, Black Arrow, Scout, Skylark
-
- * Museum of Transport, Auckland, New Zealand
- Gemini 12?
-
- * Marshall Spaceflight Center, Huntsville, AL
- Apollo LES-CM Boilerplate, Hermes A-1, Juno I, Jupiter, Redstone,
- Saturn I, V-2
-
- * McConnell Air Force Base, Wichita, KS
- Titan II Re-entry Vehicle
-
- * McDonnell Douglas, St. Louis, Missouri
- Gemini 6?
-
- * McChord Air Force Base Museum, Near Tacoma, WA
- Sidewinder
-
- * Miami Central High School, NW 95th St, Miami, FL
- Honest John
-
- * Michigan Space Center, Jackson, MI
- Apollo 9, F-1 engine (Saturn V), H-1 engine (Saturn I or IB),
- Mercury-Redstone, Talos, Tartar, Terrier
-
- * Museum of Life and Science, Durham, NC
- Mercury-Redstone
-
- * Musee de l'Air, Paris, France
- Apollo 13, Diamant A?
-
- * Wallops Flight Facility Visitors Center, Wallops Island, VA
- Aerobee 150, Astrobee F, High-speed reentry rocket, Little Joe I,
- Nike-Cajun, Scout D
-
- * National Air & Space Museum, Washington, DC
- Aerobee 150, Agena stage (Gemini docking target), Apollo 11,
- Apollo-Soyuz Mockup, Arcas, F-1 engine (Saturn V 1st stage),
- Gemini 4, Gemini 4 spacecraft, Gemini 7, Gemini 7 spacecraft,
- Goddard A-rocket, Goddard First Liquid, Goddard Hoop Skirt,
- Goddard Pump Rocket, Goddard second liquid, H-1 engine (Saturn I
- or IB inboard), Hale 24-lb rocket, Jupiter C (Juno 1), Lunar
- Module, Mercury Freedom 7, Mercury Friendship 7, Mercury
- spacecraft Freedom 7, Mercury spacecraft Friendship 7, Minuteman
- 3, Nike-Cajun, Pershing 2, Polaris (silver hill), Rheintochter,
- Scout G, Skylab, Skylab 4, SS-20, V-2, Vanguard (late model),
- Viking (model II), Wac Corporal, X-15
-
- * National Atomic Museum, Albuquerque, NM
- Honest John, Little John, Redstone, Minuteman, Thor, Jupiter
-
- * Naval Serviceman's Park, Buffalo, NY
- Talos (aboard USS Little Rock)
-
- * National Museum of Science and Technology, Ottawa, Ontario,
- Canada
- Apollo 7
-
- * Oakland Museum, Oakland, CA
- Air-air missiles?
-
- * Patric Air Force Base, FL
- Atlas, Thor, Titan I
-
- * Pima Air Museum and Titan Missile Museum, Tucson, AZ
- Bullpup AGM-12B, Genie AIR-2A, Maverick AGM-65, Phoenix AIM-54,
- Titan I, Titan II, TOW BGM-65
-
- * Point Mugu Missile Park, Point Mugu, CA
- Bat, Bullpup A, Bullpup A, Bullpup B, Bullpup B, Corvus, Hawk,
- KDA, Lark, Oriole, Oriole, Petrel, Phoenix, Polaris A-1, Shrike,
- Sidewinder, Sidewinder 1A, Sidewinder 1C, Sidewinder-Arcas,
- Sparoair, Sparrow I, Sparrow I, Sparrow II, Sparrow III, Sparrow
- III, Walleye
-
- * Redstone Arsenal, Huntsville, AL
- Redstone
-
- * public park, Riverview, MI
- Nike-Hercules
-
- * Rockwell International, Downey, CA
- Apollo 14
-
- * Roswell Museum, Roswell, NM
- Goddard Rocket components
-
- * Science Museum of Virginia, 2500 West Broad Street,
- Richmond, VA 23220 804-367-1013
- Farside
-
- * Selfridge Air National Guard Base, Mt. Clemens, MI
- Tiny Tim
-
- * St. Louis Science Center, St. Louis, MO
- Black Brant XIII, Gemini 6?, Thor
-
- * Stennis Space Center, near New Orleans, LA
- F-1 engine (Saturn V), H-1 engine (Saturn I, IB), J-2 engine
- (Saturn V, IB), Jupiter C, Space Shuttle ET, Space Shuttle SRB
-
- * Strategic Aerospace Museum, Bellevue, NE
- Atlas, Blue Scout SLV-1, Bomarc, Thor, Titan I
-
- * Swiss Museum of Transport & Communication, Luzern
- Gemini 10
-
- * Morthon-Thiokol Corp, Brigham City, UT
- Space Shuttle SRB, Trident Missile
-
- * Tsiolkovski Museum, Kaluga, russia
- M-100B, MR-12, Vostok
-
- * US Naval Aviation Museum, Pensacola, Florida
- Skylab 2
-
- * U S Air Force History & Traditions Museum, San
- Antonio, TX
- Bomarc, Thor
-
- * U S Air Force Museum, Dayton, OH
- Aerobee, Agena A/Discoverer, Apollo 15, Bomarc, Falcon, Gemini
- spacecraft, Jupiter, Mercury spacecraft, Minuteman I, Minuteman
- III, Sparrow, Standard, Thor, Titan I, X-15, X-17, X-24
-
- * U S Air Force Space Museum, Cocoa Beach, FL
- Aerobee, Agena A, Agena B, Arcas launcher, Asset, Athena, Atlas
- E, big shot shroud, Blue Scout, Bomarc A, corporal, Hawk, Honest
- John, Jupiter, Lacrosse, Lark?, Little John, Minuteman I, Navaho,
- Navaho engine, Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules, Pershing, Polaris A-1,
- Polaris A-3, Redstone, Sparrow 1, Subroc, Tartar, Thor, Thor-
- Able, Titan I
-
- * public park, Warren, NH
- Redstone Missile
-
- * Virginia Air and Space Center, Hampton, VA
- Apollo 12 capsule
-
- * West Eight Mile Armory, Detroit, MI
- Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules
-
- * White Sands Missile Park, White Sands, NM
- Aerobee 170, Aerobee Hi, Athena, Corporal, Crossbow, Dart,
- Falcon, Genie, Hawk, Honest John, Lacrosse, Lark, Little John,
- Loki, Nike-Ajax, Nike-Hercules, Nike-Zeus, Pershing, Pogo Hi,
- Redstone (developmental), Sergeant, Shavetail, Shillelagh,
- Sidewinder, SS-10, Talos, Tartar, Terrier, V-2, Wac Corporal
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.3 I've never built any scale models. Are there any recommended kits for
- first timers?
-
- The following recommendations have been made by posters to r.m.r:
-
- For A-D powered rockets:
- Estes IRIS (A-C power, sport/semi scale) - currently out of production
- Estes Black Brant II (D power, sport/semi scale)
- Quest Nike-Smoke (A-C power, sport scale)
-
- Larger models:
- North Coast Rocketry Patriot (E-G power, sport scale)
- Aerotech ISQY Tomahawk (E-G power, scale)
- Estes Terrier-Sandhawk (D-E power, scale, sport scale)
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.4 What other scale/sport scale kits are available? I'd like to build another kit or
- two before tackling a scratch scale project.
-
- Many of the really great scale kits (Estes LTV Scout, Centuri
- Little Joe II, Estes Saturn 5) have been long since or recently
- discontinued. Fortunately, there are still more than a FEW scale kits from
- which a modeler may choose.
-
- The following is a partial list of available scale and sport scale
- rocket kits available as of December, 1996. A more complete list may be
- found on the r.m.r. archive on sunsite.unc.edu. The archived list
- includes non-flying, out-of-production and high power kits as well.
-
- Apprx.
- Rocket Kit# Man SL Comments Cost
- Aerobee 350 MSHRK105 MSH 3 sportscale;56x2.6in 40.00
- Aerobee Hi NRL-41 AAA 3 1/9;31.3x1.64in 22.00
- Aerobee Hi NRL-41 AAA 4 1/6;49.25x2.6in 43.00
- ALARM K001 TLP 4 44.5x2.6in 30.00
- AMRAAM AIM-120A K048 TLP 4 1/2.69; 54.125x2.6in 33.00
- ANUBIS K038 TLP 3 24.75X1.6" 13.00
- ASM-1 (Type 80) K002 TLP 3 29.5x2.6in 25.00
- A.S.P. RK-004 VBR 2 sport scale;83.8x3.4cm 25.00
- A.S.P. MSHRK100 MSH 2 sport scale;34x1.64in 24.00
- A.S.P. MSHRK101 MSH 2 sport scale;50x2.6in 35.00
- ASRAAM K003 TLP 4 34.75x2.6" 25.00
- Black Brant II EST 1958 ES 2 1/13; 63.2x3.37cm 13.00
- Black Brant II 1014 FSI 5 1/8; 41.5x2.1in 36.30
- Black Brant II COS 3 1:6 scale 51x2.46in 50.00
- BOLO TLP 3 27.25X1.6" 14.00
- Bullpup AGM-12B K005 TLP 4 1/4.62; 29.0x2.6in 25.00
- Bullpup 12D EST 1972 ES 2 39.7x3.37cm 9.00
- Corporal K-41 NCR 2 41.5x1.88in 35.00
- DC-Y Space Clipper 3004 Q 3 Semi-scale;Height = 34.3cm
- D-Region Tomahawk AAA 3 57.5x2.6in 45.00
- Dragonfly TLP 3 26.5x1.6" 22.00
- Exocet AM.39 K041 TLP 3 1/5.30; 34.875x2.6" 27.00
- Exocet MM.40 K008 TLP 4 1/5.30; 42.0x2.6" 30.00
- Falcon AIM-4C TLP 4 31.5x2.6" 27.00
- Flail TLP 3 29x2.6" 25.00
- Gabriel III/AS K010 TLP 4 30.25x2.6" 27.00
- Gemini-Titan BOY 3 1/100; 12x1.2 in.
- Gemini-Titan BOY 2 1/160; 8.5x0.736 in.
- Grail SA-7 TLP 3 31.25x1.6" 15.00
- Harpoon AGM-84A TLP 4 29.25x2.6" 27.00
- Hawk MIM-23A K035 TLP 4 1/5/45; 37.0x2.6in 27.00
- Hawk CLR 3 2.6in diam. 32.50
- Hellfire AGM-114A TLP 3 23.625x2.6" 25.00
- Honest John BOY
- IRIS MSHRK104 MSH 3 sportscale;50.75x2.6in 39.00
- ISQY Tomahawk 2005 Q 2 sport scale;47.6x2.0cm
- ISQY Tomahawk 89014 AT 3 104x4.7cm 43.00
- ISQY Tomahawk AAA 4 len=146cm 45.00
- Javelin 1025 FSI 5 1/10; 55.3x2.25in 42.00
- Jayhawk EST 2085 ES 4+ 1/5; 76.2x6.35cm 36.00
- Jayhawk CLR 4 1/5; 2.6in diam. 29.00
- KORMORAN AS.34 K015 TLP 4 1/5.20; 33.3x2.6in 25.00
- Lance MGM-52 K042 TLP 4 1/8.48; 28.75x2.6in 23.00
- Martel As.37 K053 TLP 4 1/6; 27.0x2.6in 27.00
- Maverick AGM-65B TLP 3 21.5x2.6" 25.00
- Mercury-Atlas ES 4 1/35; len=33in 50.00
- Mercury-Atlas BOY
- Mercury-Redstone BOY 5 1/17.5; 58x4 in.
- Mercury-Redstone BOY 3 1/100; 9.75x0.736 in.
- Nike Ajax MIM-3A K060 TLP 4 55" long 50.00
- Nike-Apache COS 4+ 1/6;52.5x2.63in 55.00
- Nike-Smoke COS 4+ 1/6; 36.5x2.63 45.00
- Nike Smoke 1030 FSI 4 1/8; 72.6x5.1cm 29.00
- Nike Smoke 2007 Q 2 49.5x3.5cm 7.00
- Nike-Smoke SRW 3 1/30; 7.64x0,55in 6.50
- Nike-Smoke BOY 1 1/22; 10.5x0.736 in.
- Nike-Tomahawk 1023 FSI 5 1/8; 46.0x2.0in 34.00
- Patriot EST 0896 ES 1 mini-motors; 25.4x1.878cm 4.40
- Patriot EST 2066 ES 4 1/5;99x7.62cm; 4 motor clstr 60.00
- Patriot K-85 NCR 4 1/4;140.7x10.2cm 60.00
- Patriot THOY 4 1/4;132x10.2cm 60.00
- Patriot PML 4 1/4;132x10.2cm 60.00
- Pershing 1A BOY 2 1/30; 8.5x0.736 in.
- Perseus TLP 3 26.25x1.6" 17.00
- Phoenix EST 1380 ES 3 1/9 (semi); 76.2x6.6cm 21.50
- Phoenix AIM-54C TLP 3 25.75x2.6" 29.00
- RP-3 ASP 2
- Sandhawk CLR 3 1/5; 2.6in diam. 38.50
- Sandia Sandhawk 1031 FSI 5 1/6; 49.0x2.0in 33.00
- Saturn 1B BOY 2 1/396; 6.8x0.736 in.
- Saturn V BOY 1 1/396; 10.7x0.976 in.
- Scimitar TLP 4 39.25x2.6" 32.00
- Sea Wolf K052 TLP 4 1/2.72; 29x2.6in 33.00
- Sergeant CLR 3 3.1in diam. 38.50
- Sidewinder AIM-9L K030 TLP 4 36.0x1.6in 26.00
- Space Shuttle EST 1284 ES 4 1/162; len=34.5cm 25.00
- Sparrow AIM-7F TLP 3 46.75x2.6" 29.00
- SR-71 Blackbird EST 1942 ES 3 semi-scale; len=48.3cm 16.00
- Standard AGM-78 K032 TLP 4 1/5.2; 34.6x2.6in 29.00
- Standard ARM LS-101 MRC 2 1/14 (sport);25x1.17in
- Standard ARM CLR 3 2.6in diam. 32.50
- TAN-SAM (Type 81) K045 TLP 4 1/2.42; 44.0x2.6in 31.00
- Terrier/Sandhawk EST 2083 ES 4+ 1:9.8; 116.8x4.66cm 31.00
- Trailblazer LS-104 MRC 4 1/17;34.3x1.75in
- Type 30 Art. K049 TLP 4 1/4/54; 40.75x2.6in 25.00
- V-2 MSHRK103 MSH 2 1/25sportscale;22.5x2.6in 22.00
- V-2 MSH 3 1/16.25sportscale;31.5x4" 60.00
- Vostok COS 5 1:33 scale 45x3.1in 130.00
- Wasp 1024 FSI 5 1/8;34.75x2.0in 39.60
-
- There are also a number of Ready-to-fly (RTF) and Almost-ready-to-fly
- (ARTF) flying rockets, if you want 'minimal' build time:
-
- Honest John 5050 COX 1 1/24;len=13in 17.00
- Saturn 1B 5025 COX 1 len=21.5in 34.00
- Saturn V 5075 COX 1 len=34in 54.00
- X-15 5000 COX 1 1/24 21.00
-
- Some recently discontinued scale kits which you can still
- occasionally find on hobby store shelves include (all of the below
- were in the 1991 catalogs or later):
-
- Honest John EST 1269 ES 3 1/9;94x6.6cm 40.00
- IRIS EST 2007 ES 2 1/13; 17.125x.976in 7.00
- Little Joe II EST 0892 ES 3 1/100;26.7x3.91cm 12.00
- Mercury Redstone EST 1921 ES 4 1/35; 28.75x2.0in 20.00
- Patriot EST 2056 ES 2 1/10 (semi);54x4.16cm 10.00
- Saturn 1B EST 2048 ES 4 1/100;67.2x6.65cm 42.00
- Saturn V 25th Anv. EST 2001 ES 4+ 1/100; 109.9x10.0cm 53.00
- Sidewinder TR108 MRC 2 1/4 (sport);30.28x1.325
- Titan IIIE(1) EST 2019 ES 4 1/73; 71.1x5.64cm 26.00/19.00
-
- You say you like scale models, but want something BIGGER?? Try one of
- these:
-
- AMRAAM PML 4 56x3in 80.00
- AMRAAM PML 4+ 73x4.0in 100.00
- Astrobee D 89015 AT 4 1/2.5; 173x6.7cm 70.00
- Hawk CLR 4+ 4.0" diam.; 54mm 78.00
- HV Arcas 89012 AT 3+ 1/1.666; 142x6.7cm 50.00
- Jayhawk CLR 4+ 4.0" diam; 38mm 58.00
- Patriot PML 4+ 1/2; 97x7.5" 260.00
- Sandhawk CLR 4+ 4.0" diam.; 54mm 93.00
- Standard ARM CLR 4+ 4.0" diam.; 54mm 78.00
- Standard ARM CLR 4+ 7.67" diam.; 5x54mm 245.00
- Sandhawk CLR 4+ 5.54" diam.; 54 + 2x29mm 185.00
- Navy Strike CLR 4+ 4.0" diam.; 54mm 93.00
-
-
- Nomenclature Key:
- SL = Skill Level (1 = Beginner, 5 = Advanced)
- Prices are approximate retail prices in U.S. dollars
- Man = Manufacturer (Refer to Part 02 for addresses)
- AAA AAA Model Aviation
- ASP Aerospace Specialty Products
- AT Aerotech
- BOY Boyce Aerospace Hobbies
- CLR Cluster R
- COS Cosmodrome Rocketry
- ES Estes Industries
- FSI Flight Systems Inc.
- MSH Mountainside Hobbies
- PML Public Missiles, Ltd.
- Q Quest
- SRW Seatle Rocket Works
- THOY Tiffany Hobbies of Ypsilanti
- TLP The Launch Pad
- VBR Vaughn Brothers Rocketry
-
- NOTES:
- 1. Dual prices reflect last full retail price and special 'closeout'
- price offered by manufacturer. Kits with both prices may still
- be found on hobby shelves.
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- 7.5 O.K., I've done all my research, collected all the data I can.
- I've even built a couple of scale kits a a warm up. Now I'm ready
- to build a model I can be proud of. How do I...?
-
- Get rid of body tube seams:
- Use silkspan, applied with clear dope, or .5oz. - .75 oz. fiberglass
- cloth applied with epoxy. Silkspan will require a number of
- subsequent coats of dope or primer to seal the surface and fill in
- the fibers of the material, while the fiberglass should only require
- a few coats of primer to fill in the weave. Really deep seams in the
- tube should filled with your favorite putty beforehand. Tubes covered
- with silkspan/fiberglass will be less likely to have the seams pop
- later on.
-
- The suggestions given in part 06 and 11 are both useful and applicable.
-
- Sand sharp break lines in fins with diamond cross sections, like those
- used on Nike motors:
- You can't...use a built-up fin instead. Use 1/64 ply or thin plastic.
- Cut out mirror images of the fin pattern, then score the breakline
- with the back of an Xacto knife, being careful not to cut all the way
- through. Gently bend at the break line. Use a spar under the breakline
- to provide support and give the proper root to tip thickness
- distribution. Glue the three pieces (two fin halves and spar)
- together, and fill the open ends with wood and/or putty.
-
- Form sharp edges on nose cone, transitions, etc. (when turning your own):
- The most common material to turn these items, wood (balsa, bass)
- just won't take a very sharp edge. Try forming the piece slightly
- undersize, then apply several coats of epoxy (try to get the coats
- as even as possible). Then use a sanding block to sand the surface
- smooth, but don't sand all the way down to the wood. These steps
- should be done without removing the part from the lathe. The epoxy
- will hold a better edge than wood, and the resulting surface will
- have a plastic-like feel. Make sure the epoxy you use will cure to
- a hard surface in thin films...5 minute epoxy often remains somewhat
- rubbery.
-
- Simulate weld lines:
- Thread can be used, but something with a flatter cross-section
- usually looks more realistic. Try cutting very narrow strips
- of thin plastic using two X-acto or razor blades glued together (may
- need a plastic spacer between the blades to get the desired width).
- The width and thickness of the strip will of course depend on the
- size of the weld to be simulated, but a 2:1 or 3:1 width:thickness
- ratio is about right. Paint the model body tube with primer
- let dry and apply the plastic strip with a _small_ amount of liquid
- cement. Use a strip of frisk film or masking tape to provide an edge
- to insure the plastic strip gets applied straight. Then apply several
- coats of primer to fair in the edges, sanding between coats. If
- AmSpam ever gets around to publishing it, a future "Art of Scale"
- will cover this in more detail.
-
- Simulate screws, bolts, and rivets:
- For large-scale models, you may be able to find small screws in sizes
- 0-80 or 00-90 that will do the job that will do the job (Small Parts,
- Inc, P.O. Box 4650, Miami Lakes, FL 33014-0650 is one source). On
- smaller models you can simulate screws by embossing slots into Sig
- "scale rivets" with an X-acto blade. Sig scale rivets are available in
- both round and flat-head varieties (Sig Manufacturing Co., Inc., 401-7
- South Front St., Montezuma, IA 50171). To simulate really tiny screws,
- emboss the shafts of the scale rivets. Socket head screws can also be
- simulated using scale rivets by drilling or punching a hole in the
- center of the head. Rivets can be simulated in a variety of ways. On
- large scale models, Sig scale rivets may be appropriate. For small
- models, the best (and most difficult) way is to emboss thin sheet
- material (aluminum or plastic) using a punch and die. This method gives
- very sharp definition to the rivet heads. An easier way that produces
- less definition of the rivet head is to simply punch from one side of
- the sheet only - no matching die is used. This allows the use of a
- small spur gear (e.g. a watch gear or pounce wheel) as the punch,
- thereby allowing a whole row of rivets to be punched very easily.
- A sewing machine can also be used to punch a whole row in short order -
- just grind down a needle to produce the correct size rivet head. Model
- airplane types often use tiny drops of glue to simulate the rivet
- (RC56 glue supposedly works well).
-
- Make multiple copies of parts:
- Often, an number of identical parts appear on a prototype, and it is
- usually tedious to make just one of them. RTV rubber is a two-part
- rubber compound that cures at room temperature. Space does not allow
- a detailed discussion of the method here, but basically a high-quality
- master pattern is made, over which the RTV is poured. When cured,
- the rubber mold is removed. Epoxy or urethane resin can then be
- poured into the cavity to make as many copies as desired at a small
- fraction of the work needed to make the master. Fiberglass parts can
- also be laid up in RTV molds (another yet-to-be published AmSpam/SRM
- article). Check out back issues of "Fine Scale Modeler" magazine
- for a number or articles on casting parts in RTV molds. This is an
- _extremely_ valuable technique for the serious modeler.
-
- Refer to sections 06 and 11 for other relevant tips.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.6 What tools do I need?
-
- Well, that's kind of up to you....and your checkbook. With lots of
- ingenuity and perseverance, many things can be done with simple tools.
- For example, nose cones and transitions can be turned with just an
- electric drill (small sized ones at any rate), but it's sure a lot
- easier with a lathe (see Alway's book for details on turning with a
- drill). An airbrush is almost a must to have, since even the cheapest
- spray gun will (with practice) give a much better finish than a spray
- can. Cans of propellant to operate an airbrush are available, but are
- expensive in the long run; a portable air tank (found in many hardware
- stores) could provide a refillable, cheap (free from service stations)
- source of air for under $30. However, having a compressor is by far the
- most convenient (if you live in a humid clime, you will also need a
- moisture trap). Any precision scale work will require some measuring
- tools, typically a steel ruler with 1/100 inch graduations and a
- caliper are sufficient. Enco Mfg., a large machine tool supplier, offers
- a line of low cost rulers and calipers. Their number is 1-800-873-3626.
- Those who are really serious about scale modeling and have the $$$ to
- spend may want to consider a small milling machine in addition to a
- lathe (small lathes like the Sherline or Unimat offer an optional
- milling column). With a lathe and mill, almost anything can be
- fabricated, subject only to the skill of the operator and the size
- of the machine.
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- 7.7 Where can I get more information on modeling techniques?
-
- Since scale modeling is such a small segment of model rocketry, there's
- not much "how-to" info in the model rocket literature. Peter Alway gives
- some basic, low-tech tips in his book. For more advanced techniques,
- look in magazines for the plastic model enthusiast: "Scale Modeler" and
- "Fine Scale Modeler" are two examples. Useful techniques also appear
- occasionally in the model airplane model and ship magazines.
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- 7.8 Got any tips for generating scale plans from original dimensions?
-
- Peter Alway (PeteAlway@aol.com) suggests an old fashioned shortcut for
- generating scale plans:
- I find a slide rule is better than an electronic calculator for
- scheming up scale models. You just set the proportion of prototype
- diameter to a standard body tube diameter and slide the sliding
- doohickey back and forth to find dimensions of all the other parts.
-
- Jack Hagerty (jack@rml.com) counters with a more modern version:
- Not to sound too snobby, but I have an even better way to make perfect
- scale drawings of every piece AUTOMATICALLY. Use a CAD system. Even
- the cheap ones (cheap meaning ~$100) usually have a scaling function.
- On mine its one of the commands under the "Copy" function.
-
- CAD systems don't care if the screen is a mile across or .01" across;
- it's all just numbers. When I did my Titan IIIB, the sceen was set to
- be about 2,000" across (the Titan/Agena is about 1,700" from tip to
- the bottom of the engine bells). You just draw in all of the peices
- from your prototype reference data full size. Then, when you're done,
- you invoke the scale command to do essentially what Peter alluded to
- above using the diameter of the prototype and diameter of the body
- tube you're going to use to set your ratio.
-
- Continuing my example, the Titan is 120" in diameter and I used Estes
- BT-80 (2.62" dia) to build it. Once I had drawn the prototype I
- invoked "Copy -> Scale -> 2.62/120 -> All" and presto! Every piece,
- every conduit, every strut was now the correct scale size. I just
- plotted it full scale on my plotter and I had the perfect layout
- pattern.
-
- Mark Bundick (mbundick@inil.com) adds:
- Try using a spreadsheet. They are particularly useful in cases where
- there are station numbers instead of actual dimensions in the drawing.
-
- In column 1, enter the part name or dimension. In columns 2 and 3
- enter the station numbers from drawing. In column 4, enter a formula
- to take the difference between the figures in column 2 and 3. In
- column 5, enter a formula to apply your scale factor to the figure in
- column 4.
-
- If you want to model in a different scale, just change your scale
- factor and new dimensions are generated for every part you need on our
- upscaled or downscaled bird. I find it particularly helpful to just
- add different body diameters in different columns and then print out a
- whole page of dimensions for various sized birds.
-
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- Copyright (c) 1996 Wolfram von Kiparski, editor.
- Refer to Part 00 for the full copyright notice.
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