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- Rec.Arts.Books.Childrens Frequently Asked Questions Document
- First Posted 3 January 1997
- Modified 23 February 1997
-
- Welcome to rec.arts.books.children, a usenet newsgroup for discussion of
- children's literature and related issues. The purpose of this FAQ is to
- help readers and posters understand how the group works, what types of
- questions and discussions are appropriate here, and also to catalog
- information on common (i.e. "frequently asked") questions.
-
- This document is posted weekly to RABC, misc.kids.info, misc.answers, and
- news.answers. It is available on the internet at
- http://www.cherryvalleybooks.com/RABC.htm
-
- The function of the group is defined by its charter:
-
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- The unmoderated newsgroup rec.arts.books.children will be open to
- discussion of all aspects of children's literature. Topics for discussion
- in the group will include, but not be limited to:
- - book reviews
- - authors
- - discussion of issues raised by books
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-
- Q: What is appropriate to post there? (Thank you for asking first!)
-
- Appropriate and welcome postings include any question or query related to
- the three charter issues. Discussion of literature, opinions of books,
- favorite books, book suggestions for certain topics or age groups, book
- awards, help with book IDs, and help with writing and publishing are
- commonly discussed here.
-
- Commercial postings: Recently, there has been controversy within the group
- over postings of commercial "For Sale" notices, long dealer wanted-to-buy
- lists (as opposed to an individual seeking a favorite book), web site
- announcements, etc. On many days these postings outweigh the discussion of
- literature, discouraging many frequent readers. It would be a shame to lose
- a discussion group, which includes some well known writers and editors, to
- a marketplace that no one but dealers will visit. Although the charter does
- not exclude any topic, these types of postings are clearly not the main
- focus of the group, and although not specifically disallowed, group
- discussion indicates they are clearly unwanted by a large majority of
- readers. If you choose to make these types of postings, you do so knowing
- that you are going against the goodwill of most of the group. You figure
- out whether or not that is good marketing practice. Some suggestions on how
- and where to deal in the book business are included in this document.
-
- Other Frequently Asked Questions
-
- 1. What is the title, author, etc., of this book?
- 2. Is this book still in print?
- 3. How can I get information on an out of print book?
- 4. Can I post here about finding or selling dolls, toys, clothes, etc.?
- 5. How can I advertise books for sale?
- 6. Can I post a list of books that I want to buy in this newsgroup?
- 7. Where can I find reviews of children's books?
- 8. Are there other newsgroups related to children's books?
- 9. I've written or want to write/illustrate a children's book. How do I go
- about writing/publishing it?
- 10. What other WWW resources are devoted to children's books?
- 11. Where can I find lists of award-winning books?
- 12. What order is the Narnia Series supposed to be in?
- 13. How many Oz books were there and what were they?
- 14. Which children's books have been banned in the USA and why?
- 15. How do I (or my class) write to/contact an author?
-
- Q1: What is the title, author, etc., of this book?
-
- Many people have a book read in childhood of which they can't remember the
- title or author. Fortunately, there is an active body of children's book
- readers, dealers, authors, and collectors in r.a.b.c. who may be able to
- help. Also, ask at your local library first - don't waste that good
- resource. The key to finding these lost treasures lies in describing them
- as thoroughly as possible. Label your posting title clearly so that it
- will be read - include ID or "need help with ID" in the titles. Start with
- the obvious: theme, size, pages, illustrations, etc. Do you remember part
- of the title or anything about the author? What year did you read it (it
- won't be any newer than that)? Where did you read it (some books are
- regional)? Was it part of a series? Every detail brings you one tiny step
- closer to finding it, whether you simply enjoy the tremendous satisfaction
- of simply remembering or you then initate a search for a copy to buy.=20
-
- Q2: Is this book still in print?
-
- Any independent bookstore, on or off the web, should be able to search the
- books in print database for you. You can also see the printed version,
- published annually, at your local library.=20
-
- Q3: How can I get information on an out of print book?
-
- Any good used bookseller can help you with this. The official (U.S.)
- Books-Out-Of-Print database is now available on the web:
-
- http://www.reedref.com/bowker/index.html
-
- You will have to be assigned a user ID and password, but that is done at
- the site and is free. You can search by author, title, subject, series, or
- ISBN
-
- Q4: Can I post here about finding or selling dolls, toys, clothes, etc.?
-
- Unless there is a clear connection to children's literature/books, then no,
- please don't include those posts here. The misc.kids hierarchy of groups is
- an excellent place to _discuss_ (but not sell) toys, children's clothing,
- and just about any other issue related to children that you can imagine.
-
- Q5: How can I advertise books for sale?
-
- In this newsgroup:
- rec.arts.books.marketplace
- On these web pages...
- Advance Book Exchange http://www.abebooks.com
- Interloc http://www.interloc.com
- CompuServe Book Catalogs http://www.massmedia.com/~mikeb/
- On this mailing list...
- biblio@smartlinks.com
-
- Some r.a.b.c. readers don't mind at all if you post an occasional list of
- children's books for sale. And there are some people who do mind - in
- fact, they mind quite a lot. The point where we all agree is that FS
- listings should be limited (some say limited to once in a while, some say
- limited unto extinction). The following guidelines have been suggested for
- those who want to post books for sale in r.a.b.c.:
-
- 1. Only one FS post per person per week. You are always welcome to post as
- many non-commercial on-topic messages as you like, but please limit your FS
- posts to only one a week, and combine our list into a single post. Please
- do NOT post individually for each book.
-
- 2. The subject of your post must begin with FS. This is so people who don't
- want to see any FS posts can delete them by subject. Of course, you may
- choose to not use FS in your subject so people will read your post anyway,
- and you're absolutely right; they'll read your post - once. And you can be
- sure they never will again, no matter what your post might be about.
-
- Q6: Can I post a list of books that I want to buy in this newsgroup?
-
- Yes, you can do this, but you should follow the guidelines for "For Sale"
- posts: only one a week, and with the subject clearly marked with WTB, so
- that readers who wish can use a filter to avoid reading your posts.
-
- Q7: Where can I find reviews of children's books?
-
- Your public library probably carries most of the major book reviews. The
- Horn Book is a particularly valuable guide. Some online resources include:
-
- A Look at Kids Books
- http://www.kidsbks.com/
- Book Nook
- http://i-site.on.ca/booknook.html
- Carol Hurst's Children's Literature Site
- http://www.crocker.com/~rebotis/
- Cherry Valley Books
- http://www.cherryvalleybooks.com/
- Children's Literature
- http://www.parentsplace.com/readroom/childnew/index.html
- Connections Children's Book News
- http://community.net/~ben_chun/bookafair/21.html
- Midwest Book Review Children's BookWatch
- http://www.execpc.com/%7Embr/bookwatch/cbw/#rc
- Notes from the Windowsill Book Reviews
- http://www.armory.com/~web/notes.html
- rec.arts.book.reviews newsgroup (not limited to children's)
- Steve Brock Book Reviews
- http://ucsub.Colorado.EDU/~brock/
- The Alan Review
- http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/ejournals/ALAN/alan-review.html
- The Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books
- http://edfu.lis.uiuc.edu/puboff/bccb/
- The Scoop
- http://www.Friend.ly.Net/scoop/
- Young Adult Reading
- http://www.docker.com/~whiteheadm/yaread.html
-
- Q8: Are there other newsgroups related to children's books?
-
- Yes, some are discussion based, others are marketplaces -- as always, it is
- recommended you read a newsgroup for one 1-3 weeks before posting, and when
- possible read the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) file first.
-
- alt.books.cs-lewis
- alt.books.nancy-drew
- alt.fan.pooh
- rec.arts.books.childrens
- rec.arts.books.marketplace
- rec.arts.books.tolkein
-
- Q9: I've written or want to write/illustrate a children's book. How do I go
- about writing/publishing it?
-
- Check with your local library. They will have directories of publishers,
- writing guides, and the most recent guide to the writing market.
-
- Mailing lists and online newsletters
- Children's Writing
- To join, send e-mail to MAJORDOMO@LISTS.MINDSPRING.COM=20
- with "subscribe childrens-writing" in the message body
- @WRITERS is an online newsletter
- To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@samurai.com with=20
- the "subscribe a-writers" in the message body.
- AQUANET is a discussion group for watercolor artists
- To join/resign from the list, send a message to
- majordomo@Traveller.com with any of the following requests=20
- in the message body:
- unsubscribe aquanet-list=20
- subscribe aquanet-list
- =20
- World Wide Web pages:
- A World of Pictures (for illustrators)
- http://pages.prodigy.com/picbooks
- Association of American Publishers
- http://www.publishers.org
- Bookwire Children's Publishers List
- http://www.bookwire.com/index/Childrens-Publishers.html
- Children's Book Council
- http://www.cbcbooks.org/
- Children's Book Publishers on the Net
- http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/publish.html
- Children's Books and More by Harold Underdown
- http://www.users.interport.net/~hdu/
- Children's Writing Resource Centre:
- http://www.mindspring.com/~cbi
- Dan Poynter's site for help on self-publishing:
- http://www.lh.com/para
- How to Make Books
- http://holly.colostate.edu/~sheilas/index.html
- Inkspot
- http://www.inkspot.com/~ohi/inkspot/
- The Society of Children's Book Writers and Illustrators
- http://www.scbwi.org/
- The Writer's Marketboard
- http://rain-crow-publishing.com/market/net.html
- Writer's Resources
- http://www.authorlink.com
- Publishers Catalog List
- http://www.lights.com/publisher/
-
- Q10: What other WWW resources are devoted to children's books?
-
- General Information Sites, Newsletters, Reading Lists
-
- Association for Library Service to Children
- http://www.ala.org/alsc
- Book Look
- http://bcn.boulder.co.us/library/bpl/child/booklook/booklook.html
- Bookwire List of Children's Booksellers
- http://www.bookwire.com/index/Childrens-Booksellers.html
- Children's Bestseller Lists
- http://www.bookwire.com/pw/bsl/childrens/current.childrens.html
- Children's Book Awards
- http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/awards.html
- Children's Fiction
- http://www.primenet.com/~callie/children.htm
- Children's Literature: A Guide
- http://www.unm.edu/~lhendr
- Children's Literature Web Guide
- http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/index.html
- Choosing a Child's Book
- http://www.cbcbooks.org/choosing.html
- Fairrosa Cyber Library of Children's Literature
- http://www.users.interport.net/~fairrosa/
- Girls & Boy's Series by Sharon Reid
- http://members.aol.com/biblioholc/gseries.html
- http://members.aol.com/biblioholc/bseries.html
- Good Books for Group Time
- http://nsccux.sccd.ctc.edu/~eceprog/grpbook.html
- Internet Public Library Youth Division and Teen Division
- http://ipl.sils.umich.edu/youth/
- http://www.ipl.org/teen/
- Kids Web - Literature
- http://www.npac.syr.edu/textbook/kidsweb/literature.html
- Library of Congress
- http://www.loc.gov
- Mister Rogers Neighborhood BookList
- http://www.pbs.org:80/rogers/booklist.html
- National Council for Social Studies Notable Children's Books
- http://www.ncss.org/online/publications/booklist.html
- OzKidz Australian Children's Literature Site
- http://www.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au/ozkidz/ozlit.html
- Reading Rainbow
- http://www.pbs.org:80/readingrainbow/index.html
- School Libraries on the Web
- http://www.voicenet.com/~bertland/libs.html
- The American Bookseller's Association
- http://www.ambook.org/
- The Book Trade
- http://www.inforamp.net/~abrown/bookt.htm
- The Storyreading Home Page
- http://www.wco.com/~gailg/storyreading/
- Tomorrow Magazine
- http://kadima.com/tomorrow/
- Vandergrift's Children's Literature Page
- http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/special/kay/childlit.html
- Young Adult Literature
- http://www.ct.net/~patem/yalit/
-
- Educational Sites
-
- Books About/For Children With Disabilities
- http://www.math.ttu.edu/~dmettler/dlit.html
- Getting Children to Read
- http://www.cherryvalleybooks.com/readtips.htm
- Literacy Engagement in Older Elementary Students
- http://www.math.ttu.edu/~dmettler/liteng.html
- The Canadian's Teacher-Librarian's Resource Pages
- http://www.inforamp.net/~abrown/
-
- Focus and Author Sites
-
- Cherry Ames Page
- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3777/
- Freddie the Pig!
- http://www.outermost.com/freddy/index.html
- Hardy Boys Home Page
- http://members.aol.com/Hardyboy01/index.html
- Jan Brett's Home Page
- http://www.janbrett.com
- Kyra's Goosebumps Page
- http://www.teleport.com/~pazsaz/kyrapage.htm
- Lewis Carroll Home Page
- http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jbirenba/carroll.html
- Matthew Law's Goosebumps Home Page
- http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mlaw/Matthew/index.html
- My Little House On The Prairie Home Page
- http://www.vvv.com/~jenslegg/
- Nancy Drew Home Page
- http://sunsite.unc.edu/cheryb/nancy.drew/ktitle.html
- The Author Corner
- http://www.carr.lib.md.us/authco/home.htm
- The Betsy-Tacy Home Page
- http://virtuflex.com/homepages/navaho/Betsy-Tacy/
- The Home Page of Anne of Green Gables
- http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~frosty/anne.html
- The Madeleine L'Engle WWW Resource
- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/8838/
- The Official Eric Carle Home Page
- http://www.eric-carle.com
- The Page at Pooh Corner
- http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jmilne/pooh.html
- The Unofficial Happy Hollister Page
- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1945/index.html
- Tigger's 100-acre Wood
- http://personal.solutions.net/evans/tigger.html
- Winnie The Pooh - An Expotition
- http://www.teleport.com/~pazsaz/kyrapage.htm
- Winnie-The-Pooh's Page
- http://www.penguin.com/usa/pooh/index.html
- Wizard of Oz Web Site by Eric Gjovaag
- http://www.eskimo.com/~tiktok/
-
- Mailing Lists
-
- Children's Literature
- Send e-mail to majordomo@email.rutgers.edu with the message:
- subscribe child_lit Your Name <youradrs@where.ever>
-
- ALSC
- listproc@ala.org
- send message: subscribe alsc-l <your name>
-
- Kidlit
- listserv@bingvmb.cc.binghamton.edu
- send message: subscribe kidlit-l <your name>
-
- Q11: Where can I find lists of award-winning books?
-
- Caldecott Winners
-
- http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/education/edmc/chld_lit/cldct_yr.htm
-
- Comprehensive award list:
-
- http://www.ucalgary.ca/%7edkbrown/awards.html
-
- Q12: What order is the Narnia series supposed to be in?
-
- The order that the series was written in is not the same as the order the
- books are set in. Lewis himself suggested (in his book "Letters to
- Children") that they be read in the order that they happen rather than the
- order they were written. The two orders are given below:
-
- Written Order:
-
- 1. The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
- 2. Prince Caspian
- 3. The Voyage of the "Dawn Treader"
- 4. The Silver Chair
- 5. The Horse and His Boy
- 6. The Magician's Nephew
- 7. The Last Battle
-
- Order of Events:
-
- 1. The Magician's Nephew
- 2. The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
- 3. The Horse and His Boy
- 4. Prince Caspian
- 5. The Voyage of the "Dawn Treader"
- 6. The Silver Chair
- 7. The Last Battle
-
- Q13: How many Oz books were there and what were they?
-
- <IWOC=3DInternational Wizard of Oz Club, DR=3DDel Rey, BoW=3DBooks of Wonder>
-
- BY L. FRANK BAUM:
- "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" (1900, BoW and many others, but look out for
- adaptations)
- "The Marvelous Land of Oz" (1904, BoW, DR, Dover, and a few others)
- "The Third Book of Oz" (1986, Buckethead Enterprises of Oz)
- "The Visitors from Oz" (1960, currently out of print)
- "The Woggle-Bug Book" (1905, available as part of "The Third Book of Oz")
- "Ozma of Oz" (1907, BoW, DR, Dover)
- "Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz" (1908, BoW, DR, Dover)
- "The Road to Oz" (1909, BoW, Dover, Del Rey)
- "The Emerald City of Oz" (1910, BoW, Dover, Del Rey)
- "The Little Wizard Stories of Oz (1913, BoW)
- "The Patchwork Girl of Oz" (1913, BoW, Dover, Del Rey)
- "Tik-Tok of Oz" (1914, Dover, Del Rey)
- "The Scarecrow of Oz" (1915, Del Rey, IWOC)
- "Rinkitink in Oz" (1916, Dover, Del Rey)
- "The Lost Princess of Oz" (1917, Del Rey)
- "The Tin Woodman of Oz" (1918, Del Rey)
- "The Magic of Oz" (1919, Del Rey)
- "Glinda of Oz" (1920, Del Rey)
-
- In addition, these books by Baum have some of their characters later appear
- in Oz books, or are otherwise connected with the Oz series in small ways:
- "Dot and Tot of Merryland" (1901, BoW)
- "The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus" (1902, Dover and others)
- "The Magical Monarch of Mo" (1903, may still be available from Dover)
- "Queen Zixi of Ix" (1905, Dover)
- "John Dough and the Cherub" (1906, probably currently out of print)
- "The Sea Fairies" (1911, BoW)
- "Sky Island" (1912, BoW)
-
- BY RUTH PLUMLY THOMPSON
- [NOTE: Some of the Del Rey books, listed as being available from IWOC, may
- also be available on a VERY limited basis from BoW.
- "The Royal Book of Oz" (1921, DR/IWOC)
- "Kabumpo in Oz" (1922, DR/IWOC)
- "The Cowardly Lion of Oz (1923, DR/IWOC)
- "Grampa in Oz" (1924, DR/IWOC)
- "The Lost King of Oz" (1925, DR/IWOC)
- "The Hungry Tiger of Oz" (1926, DR/IWOC)
- "The Gnome King of Oz" (1927, DR/IWOC)
- "The Giant Horse of Oz" (1928, DR/IWOC)
- "Jack Pumpkinhead of Oz" (1929, DR/IWOC)
- "The Yellow Knight of Oz" (1930, out of print)
- "Pirates in Oz" (1931, out of print)
- "The Purple Prince of Oz" (1932, out of print)
- "Ojo in Oz" (1933, out of print)
- "Speedy in Oz" (1934, IWOC)
- "The Wishing Horse of Oz" (1935, IWOC)
- "Captain Salt in Oz" (1936, IWOC)
- "Handy Mandy in Oz" (1937, IWOC)
- "The Silver Princess in Oz" (1938, IWOC)
- "Ozoplaning with the Wizard of Oz" (1939, IWOC)
- "Yankee in Oz" (1972, IWOC)
- "The Enchanted Island of Oz" (1976, IWOC)
- "The Cheerful Citizens of Oz" (1992 poetry collection, IWOC)
-
- BY JOHN R. NEILL
- "The Oz Toy-Book" (1915 art portfolio, IWOC)
- "The Wonder City of Oz" (1940, BoW)
- "The Scalawagons of Oz" (1941, BoW)
- "Lucky Bucky in Oz" (1942, BoW)
- "A Runaway in Oz" (1995, BoW)
-
- BY JACK SNOW
- "The Magical Mimics in Oz" (1946, IWOC, BoW)
- "The Shaggy Man of Oz" (1949, IWOC, BoW)
- "Who's Who in Oz" (1954, currently out of print but some copies may be
- available from BoW and/or IWOC)
- "A Murder in Oz" (1950's, Buckethead Enterprises of Oz)
-
- BY RACHEL COSGROVE PAYES (formerly RACHEL R. COSGROVE)
- "The Hidden Valley of Oz" (1951, BoW, IWOC)
- "The Wicked Witch of Oz" (1993, IWOC)
-
- BY ELOISE JARVIS McGRAW and LAUREN LYNN McGRAW
- "Merry-Go-Round in Oz" (1963, BoW)
- "The Forbidden Fountain of Oz" (1980, IWOC)
-
- BY DICK MARTIN
- "The Ozmapolitan of Oz" (1986, IWOC)
-
- "Although it really does not deal much with Oz as we know it, I consider
- Frank J. Baum's _Laughing Dragon of Oz_ enough of a curiosity (and a most
- famous one) to warrant mention."
-
- "RPT's _Captain Santa_ may belong in the closely related category;
- debatable. Didn't she also write and "unfinished" tale that was included
- in _Wizard of Way Up_? It's been a long time since I read that."
-
- Q14: Which children's books have been banned in the USA and why?
-
- Banned Books
- http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/Web/People/spok/banned-books.html
- Most Frequently Challenged Books of the 1990s
- http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/Web/People/spok/most-banned.html
- The File Room, a censorship site
- http://fileroom.aaup.uic.edu/FileRoom/documents/homepage.html
-
- Q15: How do I (or my class) write to/contact an author?
-
- The simplest way is care of the publishing house. Most books contain the
- address of the publishing house on the cover page. If a particular one does
- not, you can look it up in a directory of publishers at your local library.
- Ask the reference librarian for assistance if you need help finding
- something. An increasingly common theme is for authors to have their own
- official web pages, usually with a way to contac them. The HotBot search
- engine (http://www.hotbot.com) allows you to search specifically for a
- person.
-
- This FAQ includes contributions large and small from...
- Allegria <allegria@his.com>
- Lauria Blackwell <lauria@erato.usask.ca>
- Trevor Blake <box2321@teleport.com>
- Beci Bolding <jmartin@usit.net>
- K. Dazazel <utkgeog@utkux.utk.edu>
- Julie Dickinson <jules@Eng.Sun.COM>
- Fred Gilligan <fgillig@erols.com>
- Eric Gjovaag <tiktok@eskimo.com>
- Steve Ketcham <Steve_Ketcham@stratus.com>
- Dorcas E. Metcalf <Dorcas_Metcalf@brown.edu>
- Suzanne Price <truprice@aol.com>
- Claire Speed <Claire.Speed@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
- Deborah Stevenson <stevenso@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
- Anastasia Suen <forsuens@flash.net>
- Marilyn Walker <marilyn@cherryvalleybooks.com>
- (Apologies to any names unintentionally omitted from this list!)
-
- This FAQ is a living document that depends on reader input to stay current.
- It is maintained by Marilyn Walker (marilyn@cherryvalleybooks.com). Please
- send comments or additions to her.
-
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