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- From: BEK@MMF.ruc.dk (Bernd Kuemmel)
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- The _Temp, Humidity & Dew Point_ ONA (Often Needed Answers)
-
-
- Table-of-contents:
- 1) Introduction.
- 2) Formulae.
- 3) Examples.
- 4) Literature.
- 5) Committment.
- 6) Outlook.
- 7) Signature.
-
-
- A plain text version of this text can also be found on:
- http://mmf.ruc.dk/~bek/relhum.htm
-
-
- 1)
- Introduction:
-
- From the discussions on the newsgroup sci.geo.meteorology this is a
- collection of some formulae and texts that reflect on connections
- of temperature, humidity and dew point temperature (BeK):
-
- Air will normally contain a certain amount of water vapour. The
- maximum amount of water vapour, that air can contain, depends on
- the temperature and, for certain temperature ranges, also on whether
- the air is near to a water or ice surface. If you have a closed con-
- tainer with water and air (like a beaker) then there an equilibrium
- will develop, where the air will contain as much vapour as it can.
- The air will then be saturated with respect to water vapour.
- The real world outside is not closed, so that the air normally will
- contain less vapour as it could. Sources of vapour are evaporation
- processes from water and ice surfaces and transpiration from plants
- and respiration from animals. The expression "evapotranspiration"
- takes into consideration plants' large share of evaporation over
- land areas.
- Sinks of water vapour are clouds or condensation on surfaces.
- Dew is created when a surface temperature has such a low temperature
- that the air chills to the dew point and the water vapour condenses.
- Physically at the dew point temperature the vapour loses the energy
- that it gained at evaporation, the latent energy, again.
-
- The precipitable water (total column water vapor) is strongly
- correlated (r > 0.9) with the surface dew point on most days.
- Exceptions to the rule include days when a cold front has passed
- and during other transient events. (Kerry Andersen)
-
-
- NET readings :
- http://covis2.atmos.uiuc.edu/guide/wmaps/general/rhdef.html
- http://njnie.dl.stevens-tech.edu/curriculum/oceans/rel.html
- http://www.mtc.com.my/fpub/lib/drying/ch11.htm
-
-
-
- 2)
- Formulae:
-
- Enough for dry physical theories; here comes the practice.
-
- For some people skipping this and going directly to the examples
- would be the most rewarding. Especially as they treat the conversion
- of relative humidity and psychrometer temperatures. (BeK)
-
- Vapor pressure (e) is the fraction of the ambient pressure that is
- due to the fraction of water vapor in the air.
- Saturation vapor pressure (es) is the maximum vapor pressure that the
- air can support (non supersaturated) at a given temperature.
-
- e can vary from 0 (verrry dry) to the maximum, es.
- es is a function of temperature es(T).
-
-
- Relative humidity (RH) is 100% times the ratio of the environmental
- vapour pressure, e(T), to the saturation vapour pressure es(T).
-
- RH = 100% * e(T)/es(T)
-
-
- The environmental vapour pressure is the saturation vapour pressure
- at the dew point or
-
- e(T) = es(Td)
-
- so RH becomes
-
- RH = 100% * es(Td)/es(T)
-
- In other words: if you have a parcel of air and cool it until the
- water vapor in it condenses then you have reached the saturation point.
- At this point you will measure the same vapour pressure as in your
- original air probe.
-
-
-
- Some more elaborate expressions follow here:
-
- es0 = reference saturation vapor pressure (es at a certain temp,
- usually 0 deg C)
- = 6.11 hPa
-
- T0 = reference temperature (273.15 Kelvin, Kelvin = degree C +
- 273.15)
-
- Td = dew point temperature (Kelvin)
-
- T = temperature (Kelvin)
-
- lv = latent heat of vaporization of water (2.5 * 10^6 joules
- per kilogram)
-
- Rv = gas constant for water vapor (461.5 joules* Kelvin / kilogram)
-
- e = es0 * exp( lv/Rv * (1/T0 - 1/Td))
- es = es0 * exp( lv/Rv * (1/T0 - 1/T))
-
- RH= e/es * (100%) = relative humidity !!!!
-
- So just above is the answer to many questions in the direction of
- how to calculate the relative humidity if you have the dew point
- and air temperature.
-
-
-
- There are some simple and more complicated formulas for the
- saturation vapour pressure at a given temperature.
-
- A simple first guess (assuming the latent heat of vaporization is
- constant with temperature) would be:
-
- log10(es) = 9.4041 - 2354/T
- or
- ln(es) = 21.564 - 5420/T
-
- where T is in Kelvin (i.e., 273.15+T(C)). {After inverting the
- logarithms es in given in hPa.}
-
- Another approximation (Magnus' formula) would be
-
- log10(es) = -2937.4/T - 4.9283*log10(T) + 23.5470
-
-
-
- In the following the input gets a little more complicated. Here we
- also shall distinguish between the saturation vapour pressure over
- ice or water. Both are different, as the molecular forces bind much
- more in an ice crystal than in a water bobble. So the saturation
- pressure esW will be larger than esI (W for water, I for ice).
-
- 1. Vapor pressure (e):
-
- dew point temperature in degrees C.
- /
- e = 6.1078 * 10 ** ((TD * A)/(TD + B)) in hPa
-
-
- 2. Saturated vapor pressure (es):
-
-
- es = 6.1078 * 10 ** ((T * A)/(T + B))
- \
- temperature in C
-
- A = 7.5 } for use in vapor pressure
- B = 237.3 } with respect to WATER
-
- * A = 9.5 } for use in vapor pressure
- B = 265.5 } with respect to ICE
-
-
-
- 3. Absolute virtual temperature (TV):
-
- vapor pressure
- /
- TV = (T + 273.15)/(1-0.379*e/Press)
- \
- total pressure
-
- TV does take into consideration that you could try to condense
- all the water vapour in your air parcel and use the condensation
- heat to warm up the air. This is a first way to distinguish
- different air parcels that may have the same temperature but
- have different relative humidity.
-
-
-
- 4. Mixing ratio (W):
- vapor pressure
- /
- .62197 e grams water
- W = -------- -------------
- P - e grams dry air
- \ |
- total pressure |
- Thus 12 g/Kg comes
- out
- as .012
-
-
- 5. Wet Bulb
- Vapor Pressure
- Dew Point (P365, Smithsonian for first part)
-
- Ew - e
- ------ = .000660 (1 + .00115 T )
- Press (T-Tw) w
-
- Therefore:
-
- e = Ew - Press (T-T ) (.000660) (1 + .00115 T )
- w w
- Tw = Wet bulb temperature (degrees C.)
- Ew = Saturated vapor pressure at temperature Tw
- e = Vapor pressure in air
- Press = Total barometric pressure (units same as Ew, e)
- T = Air temperature (degrees C.)
-
- e is the vapor pressure in the air, which is the vapor pressure at
- the dew point temperature. To solve for the dew point temperature,
- use the formula:
-
- e = 6.1078 * 10 ** ((Td * A)/(Td + B)) in hPa
-
- let C = log (e/6.1078)
- 10
-
- Then:
-
- C T + C B = A T
- d d
-
- B*C
- T = --- Dew point in degrees C
- d A-C
- where A = 7.5
- B = 237.3
-
-
-
-
- All the above saturation pressure temperature relationships are
- relatively uncomplicated. Here one that is more mindboggling:
-
- A saturation-pressure-curve which is valid for a total pressure of
- 1000 hPa. "This curve was computed by approximating the standard
- steam table for pure water using the least square method by a
- Bulgarian colleague. I experienced it to be quite exact, but I'd
- be glad to be corrected." (Dr Haessler)
-
- Psat = 610.710701 + 44.4293573*t + 1.41696846*t^2 +
- 0.0274759545*t^3 + 2.61145937E-4*t^4 + 2.85993708E-6*t^5
-
- The pressure is in Pa, the temperature in degrees Celsius (C).
-
-
- Relative Humidity then is:
-
- Phi = Psteam/Psat = (Ptot/Psat)*x / ((Rair/Rsteam)+x),
-
- where x is the absolute humidity in kilogramm water per kilogramm
- of dry air,
- Rair and Rsteam are the specific gas constants for air and steam,
- where
- Rair/Rsteam has a value of 0.622.
-
- For the handling:
- 1. Calculate the saturation pressure at Your dew point, giving Your
- steam pressure.
- 2. Calculate the saturation pressure at Your temperature.
- 3. Divide'em (see above) to get Your relative humidity.
- 4. Calculate Your absolute humidity, if desired.
- 5. Mail me for further informations, if necessary.
- 6. The reverse way is possible.
-
- For the pressure dependence of relative humidity:
- If air and steam behave as ideal gases, there is no pressure
- dependence.
- This is so around 1000 hPa (+-100hPa, approx.).
-
-
- NET reading :
- http://www.mindspring.com/~pjm/pmtherm.html (free psychrometer program)
- http://nwselp.epcc.edu/elp/wxcalcsc.html (Perl-scripts)
-
-
- CAUTIONS:
-
- Good psychrometers
-
- a) Air velocity
-
- k (and A) don't really become (sorta) independent of the air velocity
- past your wet bulb until velocities above 3 meters/ second.
- Velocities greater than 1 m/s are sufficient at temperatures of 60 C
- or more.
- The worse your arrangement, (less adiabatic, i.e. the more extraneous
- energy radiates/conducts into the water) the steeper k over velocity
- becomes for lower velocities. So you can compensate poor design to
- some extent by cranking up that fan.
-
- k and A are really device-dependent. This k (and A, of course)
- strictly refers to the "Assmann psychrometer" only - two radiation
- shields, thermal insulation, fan downstream from the thermometers. k
- should be similar for any well-made psychrometer.
-
- b) Adiabatic wet bulb
-
- Shield it from radiative & conductive errors, i.e. all energy to
- vaporize the water must come from the air and thus be reflected in
- thetaf.
-
- In wetting the wet bulb, use distilled water. Salty scale on your
- "sock" can change the vapor pressure, and will really mess
- measurements near zero. Use enough water to hit steady-state
- conditions well before you start to dry out.
-
- If you use a wick for continuous wetting, make it long enough so that
- conductive errors are minimized, and it is cooled to the wet bulb
- temperature by the time it gets near the thermometer. Make sure enough
- water can reach the wet bulb, so don't overdo the "long enough" part.
-
- Don't get anything but the wet bulb wet. Getting the radiation shield
- or the thermal insulation wet will introduce errors.
-
- Keep direct sunlight off. A great way to pump heat into your
- "adiabatic" system. Don't ever paint the outside black. Many
- commercial humidity meters are a pretty black finish. They will be
- sensitive to indirect sunlight (and other radiative sources). Humidity
- measurements are VERY sensitive to temperature!
-
- c) Supercooled water and ice below freezing
-
- Your measurement will become screwy below freezing, as you cannot
- really distinguish between supercooled water (evaporation) and ice
- (sublimation) in your wet bulb, and the vapor pressures differ. And
- Lueck says supercooled water can be present as low as -12 C. It
- suggests manually scraping the wet bulb to ensure that supercooled
- water turns to ice.
-
- And note that humidity measurements never are terribly accurate, 2%
- error in absolute hum. are pretty good, depending on where you are in
- terms of temp and water content. Anything that reads "relative
- humidity=52.783 %" is guessing (if you paid less than 100k$...:-)
-
- Thomas Prufer
-
-
- Wet bulb temperature is really defined by the psychrometer and is not
- an atmospheric water vapor property (compared with Td which has a firm
- definition)!!!! The above computations assume the standard
- psychrometer equation, but the psychrometer constant (0.00066*P in
- kPa/C) is a theoretical value that is not always matched even by very
- good psycrchrometers. PLEASE note this psychrometer constant depends
- directly on atmospheric pressure so it's value is not a "universal"
- constant!
-
- Terry Howell
-
-
- NET readings:
- http://www.uswcl.ars.ag.gov/exper/relhumeq.htm
- http://nwselp.epcc.edu/elp/rhsc.html
- http://storm.atmos.uiuc.edu/covis2/visualizer/help/general/rh.dwp.html
-
-
-
- 3)
- Examples
-
- 1. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- >My problem is the following. I want to calculate wetbulb temperature
- >(Tw) where my input is drybulb temperature (T) and relative humidity
- >(rH). (Pieter Haasbroek)
-
- Pieter:
-
- Your problem can be solved explicitly using the methods from Jensen et
- al. (1990) ASCE Manual No. 70 (see pages 176 & 177) using the
- following steps and equations:
-
- 1) compute e as [es(T)*rH/100]
- where es(T) = 0.611*EXP(17.27*T/(T+237.3)) in kPa
- T is drybulb temp in C
-
- e = (rH/100)* 0.611*EXP(17.27*T/(T+237.3))
- where e is ambient vapor pressure in kPa
-
- 2) compute dewpoint temperature (Td)
- Td = [116.9+237.3ln(e)]/[16.78-ln(e)] in C
-
- 3) compute wet bulb temperature (Tw)
- Tw = [(GAMMA*T)+(DELTA*Td)]/(GAMMA+DELTA)
- GAMMA = 0.00066*P where P is ambient barometric pressure in kPa
- DELTA = 4098*e/(Td+237.3)^2
-
- This method should be close, especially when Tw is close to Td (DELTA
- should be evaluated at (Tw+Td)/2.
-
- For example:
-
- T = 25C
- rH = 50%
- assume elev is sea level and P = 100 kPa.
-
- 1) es(25) = 0.611*EXP(17.27*25/(25+237.3)) = 3.17 kPa
- e = (50/100)* es(25) = 1.58 kPa
-
- 2) Td = [116.9+237.3*ln(1.30)]/[16.78-ln(1.30)] = 13.85 C
-
- 3) GAMMA = 0.00066*100 = 0.066 kPa/C
- DELTA = 4098*(1.58)/(13.85+237.3)^2 = 0.103 kPa/C
- Tw = [(0.066*25)+(0.103*13.85)]/(0.066+0.103) = 18.21 C
-
- CHECK ANSWER:
-
- EW(Tw) = 0.611*EXP(17.27*18.21/(18.21+237.3)) = 2.09 kPa
- e = EW(Tw) - GAMMA*(T-Tw)
- e = 1.58 - 0.066*(25-18.21) = 1.64 kPa
-
- The exact answer for Tw is about 17.95C
- EW(18.0) = 2.07 kPa; e = 1.60 kPa
- EW(17.9) = 2.05 kPa; e = 1.58 kPa
- EW(17.95) = 2.06 kPa; e = 1.59 kPa
-
- Thus,
- ERROR e = [(1.64 - 1.58)/1.58]*100 = 3.1%
- ERROR Tw = [(18.2-17.95)/17.95]*100 = 1.4%
-
-
-
- 2. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- >Hello:-
- >I am looking for the algorithm to convert wet/dry bulb temperatures to /
- >from rH (and moisture content as well, for that matter).
- >I know the Psychometric charts, but they are difficult to use accurately
- >in software. Anyone have a pointer to appropriate equations?
- >Thanks in advance! (Spehro Pefhany)
-
- Answer
- (I shall find a formula in SI units, please be patient, BeK)
-
- pw = psf - p * A * (theta - thetaf)
-
- theta: dry bulb temp., Kelvin or Celsius
- thetaf: wet bulb temp., "
- psf: Saturation pressure at temp thetaf, see 1.), in Torr (mm Hg)
- pw: Vapor pressure of ambient air, in Torr (mm Hg)
- p: pressure of ambient air, in Torr
- A: optimally (see below) 0.66 * 10e-3 * (1/C)
-
- 3.) The short way round:
-
- We're in your backyard: p = 755 Torr, 0 C < theta < 50 C.
-
- pw = psf - k (theta - thetaf)
-
- phi = pw/psf
-
- phi: relative humidity.
- k= p*A = 0.5 Torr/degree
-
- Higher temperatures:
- thetaf about 60 C: k is about 0.52
- thetaf about 80 C: k is about 0.53
-
-
- (Formula suggested by A. Sprung, 1888)
-
-
-
- 3. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- This question is _often_ asked:
- >I have the air pressure (p), the temperature (T) and the
- >relative humidity (rH) and want to calculate the specific humidity
- >(i.e. the mass of water vapour to the humid air)?
-
- First: This air pressure that you have, is actually the total pressure,
- i.e. it is the sum of the pressure of the dry air (pair) PLUS the share
- from the water vapour (pw).
-
- Then calculate the saturation pressure (es) from one of the formulas given
- above.
-
- Then multiply by the relative humidity (rh). This gives you the ambient
- water vapour pressure, (e).
-
- Then the specific humidity is given by the following formula:
-
- R
- L e
- rho = --- -----------------
- R p + e(R / R - 1)
- W L W
-
-
- WHERE:
- R / R = 0.62197 (see the example for the mixing ratio)
- L W
-
-
-
- 4. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- > Could somebody send or post the method, or fomula, used to calculate
- > dewpoints. I have hunted the local library but am unable to find it.
-
- Here it is:
-
- Td = B / ln(A * 0.622 / w p)
-
- where:
-
- B = 5420 K
- A = 2.53 E8 kPa
-
- w = water vapor mixig ratio
- p = local pressure
-
-
-
- 5. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- >I'm wondering if anyone could please give me the formula for the
- >calculation of dewpoint temperature given relative humidity, current
- >temperature, and station pressure
-
- First calculate the saturation vap. pres. es (Pa) at temperature T
- (oC):
-
- es = 610.78 * exp {A T / (T + B) }
-
- where es in Pa, A = 17.2694 and B = 237.3 for T>0 otherwise 265.5.
- Then calculate the actual vapour pressure e (Pa) using
-
- e = rH / 100 * es
-
- where rH is the rel.hum in %. Finally invert the equation for es since
- e = es(Td). The dewpoint temperature Td (oC) is then obtained from
-
- Td = B f / { 1 - f }
-
- where
-
- f = ln ( e / 610.78 ) / A
-
- (Based on Monteith and Unsworth, 1990, Principles of Environmental
- Physics, sec.ed., Arnold, London, 291pp. ISBN 0-7131-2931-X.
- Note however that their equation 2.25 for Td is wrong)
- N.J. Bink
-
-
-
- 6. EXAMPLE X M P L X M P L X M P L X M P L
- I need some help with calculating RH. Our control system allows us to read
- > dry bulb temp and enter the specific humidity (g/kg of dry air). We are
- > looking for a formula to calculate a RH setpoint to use for control. As
- > the dry bulb temp changes the system would calculate the new RH setpoint
- > to maintain the same specific humidity.
-
- I propose and easy solution.
- We start with the formula for the mixing ratio:
-
- 0.622 * e
- w = -----------
- p - e
-
-
- and transform it with the formulas for the Saturation vapor pressure (es),
- resulting in:
-
- w0 * p
- rH = ----------------
- es(T)*(1 + w0)
-
- where:
- p is the total measured pressure and
- w0 is the specific humidity (w) at the start of the run, which is
- supposed to stay constant.
- To give an example with the same starting conditions as in the example
- above, see the following table:
-
- rel.
- err. w' rh' es(T) T
- 1.1% 0.016 60% 2.645 22
- 1.3% 0.016 56% 2.810 23
- 1.4% 0.016 53% 2.985 24
- 1.6% 0.016 50% 3.169 25
- 1.8% 0.016 47% 3.363 26
- 2.1% 0.016 44% 3.567 27
- 2.3% 0.016 42% 3.781 28
-
- As you can see w' equals w0, but the relative humidity changes of course.
-
-
-
-
- NB
- By now you should be able to solve your undergraduate humidity calculations
- really by yourselves. But, looking at the text for the mixing ration, given
- above, most of you could have gained knowledge of this formula by
- yourselves, I guess.
-
-
-
- 4)
- Literature hints:
-
- For the book and paper aficionados of the readers check out this:
-
- 'If your really interested in this stuff, I (Kerry Anderson) suggest
- the book "Atmospheric Thermodynamics" by Irabarne and Godson."'
- But unfortunately I learned this book is out of stock
- (amazon.com). Instead I could recommend:
- "Fundamentals of Atmospheric Dynamics and Thermodynamics"
- Paperback, Amazon.com Price: $29.00; Published by
- World Scientific Pub Co. Publication date: May 1992
- ISBN: 9971978873
-
- "Most introductory texts on meteorology will have one
- or two paragraphs on the matter." (K Anderson)
-
- "(Based on Monteith and Unsworth, 1990, Principles of Environmental
- Physics, sec.ed., Arnold, London, 291pp. ISBN 0-7131-2931-X.
- Note however that their equation 2.25 for Td is wrong)."
- N.J. Bink
-
- "My sources (other than experience) are all German books
- (Thomas Prufer):"
- (ue equals u¨, BeK)
- Lueck, Winfired: Feuchtigkeit - Grundlagen, Messen, Regeln.
- Muenchen: R. Oldenbourg, 1964. Good basics.
-
- Sonntag, D.: Hygrometrie: Ein Handbuch der Feuchtigkeitsmessung in
- Luft und anderen Gasen. (6 vols.) Berlin: Akademie, 1966 - 1968
- Also contains a very detailed description of nearly everything on the
- market in 1966-68.
-
- Heinze, D.: Einheitliche, methodische Beschreibung von
- Gasfeuchte-Messverfahren. Dissertation an der Technischen Hochschule
- Ilmenau, 1980
- Comprehensive block and signal diagrams with the Laplace functions (!)
- of nearly all humidity measurement methods. Nearly unobtainable,
- unfortunately.
- (Thomas Prufer)
-
-
-
-
- 5)
- Committment:
- This ONA was collected and provided to you by Bernd Kuemmel
- (bek@mmf.ruc.dk).
-
- I admit to have used especially the willing help and the contributions
- of the of the following people:
-
- Pierre-Alain Dorange, Forrest M. Mims III, Kerry Anderson, Len Padilla,
- Ralf Haessler, Pieter Haasbroek, Terry Howell, David F Palmer, Thomas
- Prufer, N.J. Bink, Richard Harvey, Spehro Pefhany, and of course -
- Ilana Stern
-
- during the ongoing improvement of the ONA.
-
-
- Yours sincerely
-
- Bernd Kuemmel
-
-
-
- 6)
- Outlook:
-
- I have put other peoples warnings on psychrometers now before the
- examples, I have also included some NET readings peeking to other sites with
- information on the subject, BeK.
-
-
- 7)
- Signature:
- Bernd Kuemmel + bek@mmf.ruc.dk + VOX: +45 46 75 77 81 * 2275
- IMFUFA, Roskilde University Centre, PB 260, DK-4000 Roskilde
- Disclaimer: They do not necessarily agree with all this.
-
-
-