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Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kodak.com!news-nysernet-5.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!not-for-mail From: mandar@wildstar.net (Mandar M. Mirashi) Newsgroups: alt.irc.undernet,alt.irc.questions,alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii,alt.answers,news.answers Subject: IRC Undernet Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) (Part 2 of 2) Supersedes: <irc/undernet-faq-2-896706004@news.wildstar.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Jun 1998 13:02:28 -0000 Organization: Wildstar Internet systems, Norman OK Lines: 945 Sender: mandar@choctaw.wildstar.net Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Distribution: world Expires: Thursday, 25 Jun 98 13:00:07 (Z) Message-ID: <irc/undernet-faq-2-897915607@news.wildstar.net> References: <irc/undernet-faq-1-897915607@news.wildstar.net> Reply-To: mandar@wildstar.net (Mandar M. Mirashi) NNTP-Posting-Host: choctaw.wildstar.net X-Trace: choctaw.wildstar.net 897915749 3896 (None) 198.203.196.146 X-Complaints-To: news@choctaw.wildstar.net Summary: This posting contains useful information regarding IRC and an alternative network to the EFnet - the Undernet IRC network. Please read this before posting to alt.irc.undernet, alt.irc.questions, alt.irc, or alt.irc.ircii Keywords: IRC irc Undernet faq FAQ client server telnet internet cyber chat X-Posting-Frequency: Posted each week to the IRC newgroups X-Content-Currency: This FAQ changes regularly. When a saved or printed copy is over 2 months old, please obtain a new one. Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu alt.irc.undernet:7453 alt.irc.questions:17963 alt.irc:89277 alt.irc.ircii:5659 alt.answers:34769 news.answers:132593 Posted-By: auto-faq 3.1.1.2 Archive-name: irc/undernet-faq/part2 Version: $Id: undernet-faq, v3.2.0 1995/08/07 13:23 mandar Exp $ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Undernet IRC FAQ [Part II] (updated 1st Sept. 1996) - Weekly Repost Version 1 By Paul Grant (Grant) Version 2-3 - written by Mandar Mirashi (Mmmm) mandar@wildstar.net The FAQ consists of answers to several frequently asked questions on the IRC newsgroups. Please don't ask these questions again, they've been answered plenty of times already - and please don't flame someone just because they may not have read this particular posting. Thank you. The FAQ consists of the following sections. I) IRC for the newcomer II) The Undernet (for the newcomer) III) The Undernet (for people on other nets) IV) The Undernet (how can you participate?) V) Acknowledgements/References VI) Undernet IRC server list This article covers sections II - VI, and includes answers to: Section II: The Undernet (for the irc newcomer) - - ----------------------------------------------- 2-1) Well, I understand what a server is. Now what's a net? 2-2) So far, so good. Now, why's this net called the "Undernet"? 2-3) How do I find the closest Undernet server to me? 2-4) Whom do I approach if I have questions? 2-5) What are some good channels to try? 2-6) Say...can I join some mailing list which helps with IRC questions, or discusses IRC in general? 2-7) Are there any Undernet ftp/www/gopher sites? Section III : The Undernet (for people on other nets) - - ----------------------------------------------------- 3-1) What is the Undernet? Where does the term EFnet come from? 3-2) Why does the Undernet exist? Do we need another IRC? 3-3) How is the Undernet IRC protocol different from/better than the EFnet (and other nets)? 3-4) So, can you summarise the advantages of the Undernet? 3-5) Cool! Do I need to make any changes to my .ircrc file? 3-6) How do I get to the Undernet from the EFnet (and other nets)? 3-7) Hmm..someone was foolish enough to hand out ops to an untrustworthy person on our channel, who proceeded to do a mass deop, and left. Can something be done? 3-8) Can I move my channel to the Undernet? What are the advantages of doing so? How do I register a channel? 3-9) Can I communicate with someone on the EFnet once I'm on the Undernet? (or vice-versa) 3-10) Who are the Undernet programmers? 3-11) What does the future hold for the Undernet? Section IV: The Undernet (How can I participate?) - - ------------------------------------------------- 4-1) So, how do I get to be an "IRC op"? Why can't I be one? 4-2) How do I apply for a link for my server to the Undernet? What are the requirements? 4-3) How do I volunteer to do some work for the Undernet? No, I'm not looking for an O line. I just like being nice and helpful to people. How do I participate? 4-4) I have some ideas for the future design of ircd. I may also be interested in doing some programming for the Undernet. Whom do I approach? If you're looking for the answer to, say, question 2-5, and want to skip everything else, you can search ahead for the regular expression "^2-5". (/2-5 in case you use vi). While I have tried my best to keep the FAQ updated, there may be inadvertent mistakes or omissions. Is there a question that you find frequently asked, but not mentioned? Please send all suggested additions/ corrections/deletions/comments/etc. to mandar@wildstar.net This FAQ (both parts) can be obtained via anonymous ftp from ftp.undernet.org or ftp.undernet.org under /irc/docs, or from rtfm.mit.edu under /pub/usenet/alt.irc/ If ftp does not work from your site, then try the mail server: send email to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with send usenet/news.answers/irc/undernet-faq/part1 send usenet/news.answers/irc/undernet-faq/part2 URL's on the World Wide Web for this FAQ are: http://www.undernet.org/~agifford/undernet/underfaq/ http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/underfaq/ and, the latest version can always be found at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/irc/undernet-faq/ part1/faq.html http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/irc/undernet-faq/ part2/faq.html P.S. : This FAQ widely refers to the Unix ircII client and many commands might not work the same way if you aren't using ircII. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section II: The Undernet (for the irc newcomer) ================================================ 2-1) Well, I understand what a server is. Now what's a net? IRC servers are connected together in a 'tree' like fashion (an undirected acyclic graph to be precise). A collection of IRC servers is called an IRC net. The command /links will display all servers on a net. The command /lusers will display the number of users, servers, and channels on a given net. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-2) So far, so good. Now, why's this net called the "Undernet"? The term "Undernet" was suggested in jest by some of the original operators (dl, Wildthang and Whizzard) who started it. As time went by, the name stuck. :-) Upon hearing the name people often think that it's a net where something illegal goes on - which isn't quite the case. On the other hand, the name also imparts a mysterious angle to the IRC net. On the whole, it's a very friendly net with an easy going atmosphere. Most people are nice and helpful to newcomers. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-3) How do I find the closest Undernet server to me? Luckily for you, all Undernet servers follow names of the format: city.state.country.undernet.org or, city.country.continent.undernet.org Thus, you can easily locate the closest server to you. In most cases, this also turns out to be closest netwise as well. The command /links lists all servers. Choose one which is closest to you, and simply type /server servername. Also, the following aliases are set up, country/continent wise: us.undernet.org - USA eu.undernet.org - Europe au.undernet.org - Australia ca.undernet.org - Canada You can try a /server countrycode.undernet.org and see if that works for you. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-4) Whom do I approach if I have questions? You are always welcome on #wasteland - the help channel. Please remember that depending upon the time, #wasteland volunteers may be slow in responding since most peek into the window once in a while. However, someone or the other is sure to help you out! You may also try out #newbies, #help, #irchelp, #oldbies, #newbieplus. Another avenue is the help@undernet.org (general irc help) and wastelanders@undernet.org (irc oper mailing list)mailing lists - try mailing your question to these. You may even mail your server admin for more information (/admin will return information on the admin for that server and his/her email address). - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-5) What are some good channels to try? New channels are starting up on the Undernet almost everyday. Given the dynamic nature of channels, the channel names can vary, but a few are fairly stable. Technical: #unix, #hack, #appleiigs, #linux, #linpeople, #amiga, #root, #Windows95, #WindowsNT, #macintosh, #cu-seeme, #c, #visualbasic, #11NSChat General chat: #chatzone, #chat, #friendly, #hotsex, #popcorn, #teenchat, #ark, #talk2me, #gayteen, #readyroom, #forest, #thecafe, #vampcafe, #asd, #big-folks, #chitchat, #callahans, #cafebleu Age groups: #25plus, #30plus, #41plus, #65plus Help: #wasteland, #help, #irchelp, #vmshelp, #newbies, #newbies2, #newbplus Games: #riskybus, #jargon, #acro, #chaos, #doomsday, #trivbot #conquest, #chessland, #poker, #Initgame, #boggle Sports: #cricket, #football, #baseball States/Countries: #canada, #dutch, #india, #slovenija, #ireland, #england, #korea, #russian, #asian, #germany, #taiwan, #quebec, #italia, #mexico, #nz, #latinos #texas Religion: #Christians, #bible, #Ccm, #Christian, #wicca, #prayer, #fellowship, #mormon TV shows: #loisnclark, #X-files, #animaniacs Languages: #espanol, #francais Sex: #netsex, #sex, #wetsex, #bdsm, #spanking, #erotica Philosophy: #AynRand Fantasy/Role-playing: #waste Feel free to try any of these. New channels are created each day. you can check out these with a /names or a /list command. The Undernet service X also supports keyword searches for registered channels. /msg X search keyword - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-6) Say...can I join some mailing list which helps with IRC questions, or discusses IRC in general? The list user-com@undernet.org has been set up for people requesting general help regarding irc questions. The list wastelanders@undernet.org has been set up as a medium for IRC opers to communicate, and discuss ideas, amongst other things. To join either of these, send mail to majordomo@undernet.org with the word "help" in the body which will send you back further information. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-7) Are there any Undernet ftp/www/gopher sites? Undernet FTP sites -> ftp.undernet.org ftp2.undernet.org, ftp3.undernet.org ftp.eu.undernet.org (Europe) Undernet WWW URLs -> http://www.undernet.org/ http://esquilino.enserb.u-bordeaux.fr:8001/TOP/irc/index.html http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/Undernet.html http://www2.undernet.org:8080/~cs93jtl/IRC.html http://www3.undernet.org/~jxm181/unet.html http://info.undernet.org www.undernet.org is an alias for sci.dixie.edu www2.undernet.org is an alias for http2.brunel.ac.uk www3.undernet.org is an alias for cac.psu.edu Undernet gopher site -> gopher.undernet.org (aka sci.dixie.edu) To get to the Undernet gopher site, follow these directions: Main menu -> Other Gopher and Information Servers/ -> North America/ -> USA/ -> Utah/ -> Dixie College Science Gopher (St. George, Utah)/ -> IRC (Internet Relay Chat)/ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section III : The Undernet (for people on other nets) ===================================================== 3-1) What is the Undernet? Where does the term EFnet come from? The Undernet is a separate collection of IRC servers on a different network. The servers follow a much better server-server protocol, while maintaining the same server-client protocol. It's much smaller than its counterpart the EFnet, and was designed to supplement the EFnet. The term EFnet stands for eris-free net. (eris.berkeley.edu was a server on the net which is now no longer there) The small size of the Undernet also works to advantage and is often considered by many as a good thing. On the Undernet all the operators know one another, people are more friendly and there are (as yet) no unsavoury characters. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-2) Why does the Undernet exist? Do we need another IRC? Why not? At the moment the EFnet IRC is overloaded with users. There are frequent netsplits involving not just the odd servers, but in increasing cases a significant number of servers. Too much pressure is put onto the EFnet IRC due to the (unforeseen) explosion of users it has gained. Many people don't ask _if_ the EFnet irc will survive, but when will it go... For this reason the Undernet stands out as a Good Thing (tm). It can help take the load off of the EFnet IRC and prolong its day of judgement, hopefully for long enough that a solution to its problems can be found. The Undernet consists of some very highly motivated and dedicated people enthusiastic to make a success of their venture. There is another reason why the Undernet is here. EFnet IRC is becoming more and more politicized, day by day. With various EFnet IRC admins forming groups against one another, the amount of co-operation between them has become almost nil. The time which they could spend in serving you, the user, is instead spent in endless bickering. Undernet is a net where the operators are friendly easy going folks, and are always happy to help the users as far as possible. Abusing users is *highly* frowned upon, and opers follow a certain "Undernetiquette". Feel free to ask any questions that you may have, and though you may not always be guaranteed of an answer, we will surely do our best to help you in any way whenever possible, and in making your stay more comfortable. Yet another goal of the Undernet is to provide a better environment for users to communicate in, with protection against malicious users who try to work *against* IRC and its principles. The Undernet has an improved server-server protocol which disallows netsplit op riders, with no channel desynchs, or intentional nick collides possible. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-3) How is the Undernet IRC protocol different from/better than the EFnet (and other nets)? As time has gone by, Undernet IRC programmers have come forward with innovative solutions to stem some of the problems plaguing the current EFnet. A lot of creative solutions have been coded by our major ircd programmer - Run (carlo@runaway.xs4all.nl), and implemented on the Undernet servers. These include: * TSpre8 - This patch makes it impossible for anyone to abuse netsplits and ride ops and do mass deops on your channel or lock it up. Mode changes are followed with a channel creation TS (timestamp) which is used to then reverse invalid mode changes. TS pre8 also includes code which makes it difficult for even irc admins to hack their server to do fake mode changes without HACK notices being sent to all opers. TSpre8 also enables oper wallops. * bquiet - This patch prevents someone banned on the channel to send to it or change nicks. Extremely useful since /kick is almost never needed, and counters annoying nick changing automatons with a single ban until they flood themselves out. * silence - This patch cuts off flooding at the *local* server. Thus, unlike /ignore where your client continues to receive floods (even though you don't see them) and gets ping timed out, silence enables you to completely get rid of intentional flooders. To use silence, the syntax is: /silence +user@host or /silence nick. * ANC - The anti-nick collide patch foils intentional nick colliders who try changing servers during netsplits on the EFnet and obtain the same nick in order to collide you when the net rejoins. With the anc patch, this is no longer possible, and the person who signs on *later* is rejected from the server. In addition to the above obligatory patches for all Undernet servers (all developed by Run), many Undernet servers also run the foll. optional patches: * ban - Developed FIRST on the Undernet by SIO, it was soon adopted by some servers on the EFnet. This patch allows you to see who set bans and when on a channel. * To - topic info - Also developed first on the Undernet by SIO, this patch allows you to see who set the topic on a channel and the time that it was set. * S - Signon time - Another Undernet first, coded by SIO, this patch allows you to see when another person on the same server as yourself, signed on. The foll. patches which are also optionally installed, are more of interest to IRC admins: * KL - Kill line comments - Developed by Mmmm. Allow you to specify a comment on the K line instead of the plain stupid error message of "ghosts are not allowed". You may even choose to have a file output to a K lines client. * TT - Trace times - Developed by Tonto. Appends a number indicating in milliseconds, the amount of time lapse since the server last heard from the server/ client. Depending upon your Y lines setup, you can use this as a judge to determine ping timeouts. * Cl - Client connect - Developed by Twilight1. Notifies you of local client connects/disconnects. Useful for spotting clone bots. * sw - /stats w - Developed on the EFnet by mlv. Lets you gather statistics on average client connects per hour, day, etc. and keeps track on maxconnections on the server so far. * MC - mixed case - Developed by Jon2/mlv. Helpful patch to disallow users with mixed case userids (usually fake) from connecting. * OF - oper fail - Developed by Jon2/bry. Notifies local opers when a local user tried to /oper and failed. For more information on these patches and how they work, you can ftp to ftp2.undernet.org and fetch /irc/servers/README.patches NOTE: The Undernet has been a pioneer in many of these improvements. We now have released the latest version of server code u2.9 which continues to offer more improvemenets (reduction of interserver bursts, anti-ip spoof patch, anti-clone patch, etc) for our users. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-4) So, can you summarise the advantages of the Undernet? The Undernet offers users the following advantages: * Lesser lag due to more intelligent routing based solely on ping times and traceroutes. * Fewer netsplits (these too are attended to by an automatic routing service which reconnects on splits). * No netsplit op riders to harass channels. * No channel desynchs and servers telling you that you aren't opped. * No nick colliders. * All the useful patches discussed in the earlier answer are implemented on most servers. * User friendly operators willing to help you. * Innovative new services such as MURC (check out channel #waste) * Channel registration for popular channels (http://cervice.undernet.org) - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-5) Cool! Do I need to make any changes to my .ircrc file (ircII users)? Yes, you will need to add the following lines to your .ircrc if you use ircII, and would like to take full advantage of all the patches. # Ban patch on ^367 * if ([$4] != []) {echo *** $1 $$3 - $stime($4)) $2} {echo *** $1-} # Topic info patch on ^333 * echo *** Topic for $1 set by $2 on $stime($3) # Signon time patch on ^317 * if (index(012345679 $3) != -1) {echo *** $1 has been idle for $2 seconds. Signon at $stime($3)} {echo *** $1 has been idle for $2 seconds.} # TSpre8 - channel creation time On ^329 "*" echo *** $1 : created $stime($2) # handy aliases for the silence command and a required on raw_irc alias silence quote silence alias sile quote silence on ^raw_irc "% SILENCE %" echo *** $* # If you use Daveman's toolbox or any auto rejoin line, remove the old # on raw_irc for KICK, and use the foll. one instead: (Run) # [Remove the # symbol at the beginning to uncomment the lines of course] # #on ^raw_irc "% KICK % % *" { # if ([$3]==[$N]) # { # //quote join $2 # echo $mid(11 5 $stime($time())) * You have been kicked off channel $2 by $left($index(! $0) $0) \($mid(1 256 $4-)$ # } # { # echo $mid(11 5 $stime($time())) * $3 has been kicked off channel $2 by $left($index(! $0) $0) $$mid(1 256 $4-)$ # } # } - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-6) How do I get to the Undernet from the EFnet (or other nets)? It is very easy to switch to the Undernet if you're currently on the EFnet. Simply use the command, /server servername or if a port is specified (all European Undernet servers run on port 7000) /server servername port# Most Undernet servers now listen on ports 6660-6669. Sometimes, the "symbolic" name for the server may not work, and you may need the "numeric" address (a string of numbers) instead. Listed in the Appendix is a list of Undernet servers along with their numeric addresses and ports wherever relevant. All Undernet servers are registered in the undernet.org domain. Also, they follow the format: city.state.country.undernet.org or, city.country.continent.undernet.org E.g US servers are *.US.undernet.org and european servers are *.eu.undernet.org This will make it easy for you to remember how to get to the Undernet. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-7) Hmm..someone was foolish enough to hand out ops to an untrustworthy person on our channel, who proceeded to do a mass deop, and left. Can something be done? The Undernet has a special service known as Uworld which takes care of reopping channels, and is accessible by operators. However, strict guidelines are in effect for its use. An oper will refuse to use Uworld if there already exist chanops on the channel. Uworld can be used if a channel has lost channel ops for some reason *and* channel users are unhappy about it *and* they are decided upon who's to be opped. To make sure that users realise the responsibility of the decision of sharing ops with someone else, a time delay may occur before the channel is reopped. Above all, it is *your* responsibility that you do not lose ops on your channel - an oper is not *obliged* to reop channels who lose ops due to carelessness on behalf of the current chanops. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-8) Can I move my channel to the Undernet? What are the advantages of doing so? How do I register a channel? You're welcome to start up your favourite channel on the Undernet as well. Consider the many advantages. Much better facilities for chatting, without the annoyingly frequent netsplits; much lesser lag (check with /ping #channelname for yourself :); protection against netsplit op riders who try to disrupt channels; no channel desynchs; amongst the other advantages listed earlier. We may even be able to set up a gateway service between the same channels on both nets, if all channel members are willing. (email wastelanders@undernet.org, if you wish to do this; or email dvmitche@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu or carlo@runaway.xs4all.nl). Undernet operators are always willing to help you in this endeavour, so don't hesitate to ask us. *NEW* The Undernet now has a channel service called X, which can protect channels. You need to have at least 10-15 supporters for for your channel. You can email cservice@mail.undernet.org for more information or check out http://cservice.undernet.org. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-9) Can I communicate with someone on the EFnet once I'm on the Undernet? (or vice-versa) Occasionally, a few gateway services can be found on the Undernet which allow you to communicate to someone not on the same net, or which link channels. These include 'ul' - programmed by Tonto (vencill@bga.com), || - programmed by Wildthang (dvmitche@mailhost. ecn.uoknor.edu), Orac - programmed by Ensor (dholmes@rahul.net), and miscellaneous others (including some by Run). Look around if any of these is present, and if so, try /msg servicename help. You can also be simultaneously on *both* nets if you use ircII. Try the command: /window new server servername where servername is the name of a server on the other net. This will split your screen into two windows, with each window on different servers. If you specify a server on a different net, then you will be on different nets. You can use Ctrl-x p (hit ctrl-x, release, then hit p) to flip between windows. (if that doesn't work, you may try /window goto 1 and /window goto 2) Type /help window to get more extensive help. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-10) Who are the Undernet programmers? The Undernet programming team has many members - all of them very enthusiastic and deeply dedicated to the cause. Here's a brief description of what each person does/codes/maintains: * Run (carlo@runaway.xs4all.nl) - Our magic ircd programmer. He coded the foll. important patches: o TSpre8 o ANC o bquiet o silence In addition, Run also maintains Undernet's automatic Router. He also coded Underworld.nl, a backup for Uworld. * WildThang (danny@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu) - Our magic "user services" programmer. Wildthang is the coder for Uworld, Murc, quick ircIIhelp, and telnet client services. The Undernet hosts the world's first MURC (Join #waste on the Undernet to find out what a murc is :). Wildthang's also the coder for the gateway service ||. * SIO (pfoley@vuw.ac.nz) - Coder for the Undernet Nickserv. Also coded the ban, topic and signon info patches which are found with the .mu versions of the server. * hop (jnelson@iastate.edu) - Our magic ircII client enhancer. Hop has done an extensive facelift to current ircII versions. His latest version was ircII2.3.17+10.4. The UPDATES file which reflect new additions to the client is 500 lines in size! You can ftp this from ftp2.undernet.org under /irc/clients * Mmmm (mmmirash@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu) - He's responsible for maintaining the auto-magic ircII install on sci.dixie.edu. He also codes and maintains the smallirc client, and does minor ircd patches and releases. * Karll (agifford@sci.dixie.edu) - Multipurpose programmer. He has coded useful routines for both ircd as well as hop's client. * Tonto (vencill@bga.com) - He was the author of the gateway service 'ul'. He's also done some ircd programming for the Undernet. * Cym/Kev/Ensor/flux/dl/President/S_Avatar/TheJester/epa/Snarf - these are our other programmers who have chipped in useful things from time to time. * Seks - He's the author of the famous channel service X/W. 'nuff said. * All other members of the coder-com mailing list. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3-11) What does the future hold for the Undernet? All of us envisage a bright future for the Undernet. Userbase has been slowly rising. So has the stability of servers in general. More and more improvements have been done to the protocol in general, and have proven successful. Given the surprising success of the Undernet, many attempts have been made to imitate it in the form of other nets. Other nets such as the Lamenet, 3l33tnet, IAOnet, dalnet, idealnet, etc sprung up in recent years. None of these however have exhibited the originality of ideas or creativity shown by innovative Undernet programmers. A famous saying goes: "Imitation is the best form of flattery". We hope that you will take time to visit us on the Undernet, and share in its bright future. The final goal of Undernet ircd programmers is to eliminate or minimize all problems that plague the current EFnet. The journey has just begun.... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Section IV: The Undernet (How can you participate?) ================================================= 4-1) So, how do I get to be an "IRC op"? Why can't I be one? The Undernet admins do not give ops to people who *ask* for them. If you participate in the net by helping people, and in general following proper Undernetiquette, you might merit attention and your name may be suggested on the wastelanders mailing list. IRC ops are scrutinized carefully before being added. Basically, no ops are handed out to people who (i) are hardly around or (ii) ignore pleas for help or (iii) want ops just for kill power or (iv) want ops because it gives them a sense of "power" over other users, and to look "cool". Remember, asking for ops only makes your case *worse*. If you're worthy, and other feel that you're competent enough, you'll be approached to volunteer for oper. IRC ops are expected to have been on IRC for a long time, and must possess an adequate amount of knowledge to help Undernet users. They are also responsible for keeping servers connected and abiding by the general guidelines of the Undernet. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4-2) How do I apply for a link for my server to the Undernet? What are the requirements? At the time of writing this document, the Undernet will not consider any more links unless you're situated in an exceptionally good location (read "one hop off the T3 backbone in the US, or other equivalent backbone networks in Europe/elsewhere"). Use traceroute and ping to determine your location. If you feel you are eligible for a link, read the files in the /irc/newlinks directory at ftp. undernet.org. Post your proposal to the wastelanders mailing list - wastelanders@mail.undernet.org. Remember, all Undernet servers *must* run with the approval of the system admin at that site. If you do not receive a response within a week, you can safely assume that the Undernet cannot provide you links (though usually, a response, either positive or negative will be sent). For a more elaborate discussion, you may join #wasteland and talk to other IRC admins to discuss your proposal. *NEW* -> With the formation of committees on the Undernet, the Routing/Servers Committee handles all routing/link decisions. Make sure you send a copy of the newlink document to routing-com@undernet.org as well. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4-3) How do I volunteer to do some work for the Undernet? No, I'm not looking for an O line. I just like being nice and helpful to people. How do I participate? The Undernet is *always* looking for people like you. We are always short of volunteers to help other people. Have you benefitted from your experience with the Undernet? Have you enjoyed your time on IRC here? We encourage you to give back to the net what you got from it. You are encouraged to help. Even if you lurk around on #wasteland and familiarize yourself with frequently asked questions on the channel, and their answers, it would take a BIG load off many of the operators who were quite selflessly devoted to helping you, when you started off. You can join the wastelanders mailing list (mail listproc@mail.undernet.org or majordomo@mail.undernet.org with the word "help" in the body for information on how to subscribe). Please do what you can. Every little bit counts! *NEW* -> The Undernet has set up a Users' Committee to receive input from users like yourself. To subscribe to the mailing list, send mail to majordomo@mail.undernet.org with "subscribe user-com" in the body. The URL on the World Wide Web for the User Committee home page is http://aslan.pr.mala.bc.ca/~warren/usercom.html - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4-4) I have some ideas for the future design of ircd. I may also be interested in doing some programming for the Undernet. Whom do I approach? The Undernet is always on the search of new solutions to existing problems. If you think you can help us in this endeavour, welcome aboard! Subscribe to the wastelanders mailing list (send mail to majordomo@mail.undernet.org with "subscribe wastelanders" in the body) and tell us about your ideas. After a period of discussion, and depending upon everyone's views, we may give you the "go ahead" to program it! Yes, watch *your* code being run on servers around the world, with your name in our acknowledgements. The Undernet programming team is a tightly knit set of enthusiastic individuals. Feel free to participate. *NEW* -> The Undernet has set up an ircd coders' committee. To subscribe to the mailing list, send mail to majordomo@mail.undernet.org with "subscribe coder-com" in the body. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS ================= * First off, to Jarkko Oikarinen (WiZ) for this wonderful invention. * To the telnet site maintainers at bradenville where I first accessed irc. * To the ircII coders (Mike Sandrof, Troy Rollo, Matthew Green, Ian Frechette, Jeremy Nelson). * To Run for his magic improvements to Undernet ircd. * To Wildthang (Danny) for his advice as a friend and as an awesome Undernet irc services programmer. * To Fizzy (Adrian Hall) for the impetus he lent to the Undernet. * To TikTok (Donna) who's gonna bear the misery of proofing this. * To all wastelanders/Undernetters for helpful tips and comments. * Thanks to all others who have helped me in this faq - you are too numerous to mention - you know who you are. * Thanks also to my critics and enemies. Without your existence, I wouldn't have had the inspiration to go on. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REFERENCES ========== * The ircII help pages. * RFC1459 * IRCprimer by Nicholas Pioch. * alt.irc FAQ by Helen Trillian Rose Davis. - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ APPENDIX: The Undernet Server List ================================== Updated: 1st June 1996 - - ---------------------- Explanation of entries - - ---------------------- line 1: server name and port number line 2: machine name and IP numeric line 3: location - - -------------------- Undernet server list ====================== NORTH AMERICA (Although the default port is 6667, for faster access, ============= try ports 6660-6669) CANADA - - ------ server: Montreal.QU.CA.undernet.org 6667 machine: aiken.info.polymtl.ca 132.207.4.32 location: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Quebec, Canada admin: undernet@step.polymtl.ca server: Vancouver.BC.CA.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.direct.ca 199.60.229.15 location: Internet Direct, Vancouver, Canada admin: van-opers@alias.undernet.org server: Toronto.ON.CA.undernet.org 6667 machine: oceanus.magic.ca 199.166.230.99 location: Magic Online Services, Toronto, Canada admin: deecee@magic.mb.ca USA - - --- server: Norman-r.OK.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: shiloh.nssl.ou.edu 129.15.67.10 location: University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma, USA admin: danny@wildstar.net server: Washington.DC.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc01.irc.aol.com 152.163.173.25 location: America On-Line, Washington DC, USA admin: irc@aol.com server: Ann-Arbor.MI.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.cic.net 192.131.22.80 location: CICnet, Ann-Arbor, Michigan, USA admin: irc@cic.net server: Chicago.IL.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: tau.wwa.com 198.49.174.36 location: Chicago, Illinois, USA admin: irc@wwa.com server: Chicago-1.IL.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: raptor.ais.net 199.0.154.14 location: Chicago, Illinois, USA admin: adoane@ais.net, tim@ais.net server: Phoenix.AZ.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: home.amug.org 204.62.193.83 location: Arizona Macintosh Users' Group, Phoenix, Arizona, USA admin: dan@amug.org, schnur@amug.org, kmpeake@bausch.nl server: Lowell.MA.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: chatter-s2.nis.newscorp.com 206.15.106.129 location: MCI/NewsCorp. Internet Ventures, Lowell, Massachusetts, USA. admin: irc-op@iguide.com server: okc.ok.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: apache.wildstar.net 206.103.114.11 location: Wildstar Internet, Oklahoma city, Oklahoma, USA admin: ircadmin@wildstar.net server: Sandiego.CA.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.connectnet.com 207.110.0.52 location: Connectnet Internet services, Sandiego, California, USA admin: chuck@connectnet.com server: StLouis.MO.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: ultra.i1.net 205.216.202.17 location: Internet 1st Inc., St. Louis, Missouri, USA admin: irc@i1.net server: Dallas.TX.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: external.csac.net 204.75.137.18 location: Dallas Metroplex, Dallas, Texas, USA admin: irc@csac.net server: Springfield.MO.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: spica.getonthe.net 204.71.96.187 location: Ozark Net, Springfield, Missouri, USA admin: irc@springfield.mo.us.undernet.org server: Saltlake.UT.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.aros.net 205.164.111.16 location: ArosNet IRC server, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA admin: irc@aros.net server: Los-Angeles.CA.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.decade.net 198.245.24.80 location: Decade Communications Inc., Los Angeles, California, USA admin: irc@decade.net server: Rockhill.SC.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.cetlink.net 206.31.104.10 location: Cetlink, Rockhill, South Carolina, USA. admin: irc@cetlink.net server: Baltimore.MD.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.abs.net 207.114.0.144 location: ABSnet, Baltimore, Maryland, USA admin: irc@abs.net server: Des-Moines.IA.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: ins6.netins.net 167.142.225.6 location: Iowa Network Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA. admin: irc@netins.net server: LasVegas.NV.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.wizard.com 199.171.28.9 location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. admin: Angel111@wizard.com server: NewBrunswick.NJ.US.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc2.worldnet.att.net 204.127.145.17 location: AT&T Worldnet, New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA. admin: att@undernet.org EUROPE ======= server: Caen.FR.EU.undernet.org 7000 machine: ns.ensicaen.ismra.fr 192.93.101.16 location: Ecole Nationale Superieure d'Ingenieurs de Caen, France admin: dp@ensicaen.ismra.fr server: Amsterdam.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: veer.cs.vu.nl 130.37.24.9 location: Vrije Universitet, Amsterdam, Netherlands admin: ircops@cs.vu.nl server: Diemen.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: irc.pi.net 145.220.3.40 location: Planet Internet, Diemen, Netherlands admin: irc@pi.net server: Almere.NL.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: londen.tip.nl 195.18.64.100 location: Internet Plaza, Almere, Netherlands. admin: stefan@aware.nl server: London.UK.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: telebsd.aladdin.co.uk 193.119.122.98 Location: Aladdin Internet, London, UK admin: stantong@galadriel.bt.co.uk server: Lulea.SE.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: buddy.ludd.luth.se 130.240.16.36 Location: Lulea Academic Computer Society, Lulea, Sweden admin: lulea@undernet.org server: Oslo.NO.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: galgeberg.sn.no 194.143.8.106 Location: Schibsted Nett AS, Oslo, Norway admin: ene@a.sn.no server: Antwerpen.BE.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: antwerpen.planetinternet.be 194.119.232.3 Location: Planet Internet, Vlaanderen, Belgium admin: niels@holding.pi.net, irc@planetinternet.be server: Regensburg.DE.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: rrws37.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de 132.199.121.37 Location: Regensburg, Germany. admin: wuschel@beer.org server: Goettingen.DE.EU.undernet.org 6667 machine: alaska.mdv.gwdg.de 134.76.112.2 Location: Goettingen, Germany. admin: eichhorn@mdv.gwdg.de, dulz@mdv.gwdg.de, kland@koeln.netsurf.de AUSTRALIA (accessible only within *.au) ========= server: Wollongong.NSW.AU.undernet.org 6667 machine: paladin.its.uow.edu.au 130.130.68.10 location: U of Wollongong, Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong, Australia admin: dma@uow.edu.au NEW ZEALAND =========== server: auckland.nz.undernet.org 6667 machine: iconz.co.nz 202.14.100.2 location: Internet Company of New Zealand, Auckland, New Zealand. admin: rowan@iconz.co.nz TEST SERVERS / SERVICES ======================= Delft2.NL.EU.undernet.org washington-1.dc.us.undernet.org Uworld.undernet.org Underworld.nl undernet.org (Nickserv) Fantasy.Worlds.Murc.undernet.org (Murc) Router.nl.eu.undernet.org (Router) channels.undernet.org (X) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBM3eACxbDuGZjBEbFAQFi9gMAyziZQjtHNhMy07Uc4gd0PMWDkO59r45v lwDIjBGJDcEdFAfVbeoIItaiKq98BU7/3yCb24RM7Up9MsL7J00gZdLM+OHBD07I PwzDf3XwlGxqxU+IkN2TtcWP82TlpV1N =VJnn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Mandar Mirashi Maintainer: ftp.undernet.org, Undernet IRC FAQ. ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.irc.undernet For IRC help/Undernet information, check out http://www.undernet.org