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- From: mercymercymercy@nardis.com (Terry Chan)
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- Subject: alt.folklore.urban Frequently Asked Questions [Part 5 of 5]
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- 6 February 1997
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- INTRODUCTION:
-
- This is the last section of the five part Frequently Asked
- Questions list for alt.folklore.urban. This section credits
- posters who have contributed in the spirit of the newsgroup
- and also lists some basic references. Note, many of the ULs
- discussed in the FAQ list as being "F" or "T" are discussed
- in one of the following references.
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- PART IV: CREDITS AND SOME REFERENCES
- ============================================================================
- Many Thanks to the Following Posters for Relevant Information on
- the FAQ List and for Contributing to the Overall Spirit and Quality
- of alt.folklore.urban.
- ============================================================================
- GENERAL ALL AROUND JACK 'N JILLS OF THE TRADE
- ---------------------------------------------
- Bo Bradham, Jane Beckman, Steven Bellovin, Conrad Black, Mark Brader, Bo
- Bradham, Jean-Louis Brodu, Justin Bukowski, Danny Burstein, Jack Campin,
- Raymond Chen, Joe Chew, Bob Church, Tom "Splinter" Cikowski, Patrick S Clark,
- Guy Coates, Cathi A.Cook, Camilla A. Cracchiolo, Cindy Davies, Glenn Davis,
- Jeff Davis, Ray Depew, Scott Deerwester, Larry Doering, all the Terry's:
- Carroll, Chan, Monks, Wood, et al., David Esan, Clive Feather, Sharon Fenick,
- Greg Franklin, Alan Frisbie, Joel Furr, Kim Greer, Tom Greer, Dave Gross,
- Phil Gustafson, Barbara Hamel^WMikkelson, David A. Honigs, David B. Horvath,
- Wendy Foran Howard, Mark Israel, Richard Joltes, Jim Jones, Diane Kelly, Emily
- Kelly, Phil Kernick, Ron Knight, David Lesher, Andrew Lewis, Helge Molding,
- Dean "dino" Moore, Susan Mudgett, Ian Munro, Bill Nelson, Tom Neff, Bob
- O'Brien, Madeleine Page, Jonathan Papai, Christophe Pettus, Lee Rudolph, saki,
- G. Paul Savage, Brian Scearce, Sean Smith, Randal Schwartz, Ken Shirriff, Doug
- Spindler, Haakon Styri, Derek Tearne, Michelle Tepper, Harry Teasley, Bruce
- Tindall, Dwight Tovey, Peter van der Linden, Will Wheeler, Greg Widdicombe,
- Dan Wright.
- ===========================================================================
-
- OTHERS?
-
- Have you ever wondered how those people have gotten the name at the end
- of the FAQ list? They are people who are widely recognized as thoughtful
- posters of reliable information. They have consistently added value to
- various debates by sharing their point of view, and often researching
- difficult questions which arise on the net, and posting authoritative facts
- citing sources.
-
- The official way for joining the list of distinguished AFU-ers is to
- research a number of the unanswered questions that come now and then
- and reach a definitive conclusion (or demonstrate that one cannot be
- found). Post your findings. If your reports are sound, and have
- provide a reasonable contribution to the signal-to-noise ratio of
- the newsgroup, and the original question was non-trivial, you will
- be added to the acknowledgements section of the FAQ list! Be prepared
- to submit references. We are mostly adults here (except around the
- beginning of the academic year). Be prepared to discuss and debate
- your research and conclusions here. The unofficial way to get on the
- list is to give me a big payoff (and it better be more than two-fifty).
-
-
- INCREDIBLE NEW REFERENCE:
-
- Peter van der Linden, _Expert C Programming_, 1994, Prentice-Hall.
- ISBN 0-13-177429-8, paperback, 384 pages, US$32. An provocative
- and lively excursion into the depths of mental anguish and
- instability that give rise to urban legends such as C. Recommended
- for people of all ages and religious persuasions. If this isn't
- the most spine-tingling book you read this year, you haven't lived!
- So controversial that the Book of the Month Club won't even acknowledge
- it!
-
- Also by the same author: _The Official Handbook of Practical Jokes_
- Signet, ISBN 0-451-15873-3, 1989, _The Second Official Handbook of
- Practical Jokes_, 1991, Signet, ISBN 0-451-16924-7.
-
-
- SOME PRIMARY FOLKLORE-SPECIFIC REFERENCES:
- ==========================================
-
- Simon J. Bronner, _Piled Higher and Deeper_, 1990, ISBN 0-87483-154-7,
- August House. Very readable and interesting collection of campus
- and academic folklore.
-
- Jan Harold Brunvand (_The Vanishing Hitchhiker_, 1981, ISBN 0-393-95169-3;
- _The Choking Doberman_, 1984, ISBN 0-393-30321-7; _The Mexican Pet_,
- 1986, ISBN 0-393-30542-2; _Curses! Broiled Again_, 1989, ISBN 0-393-
- 30711-5, _The Baby Train_, 1993, ISBN 0-393-03438-0; _The Study of
- American Folklore_, 3rd Ed., 1986, all published by W.W. Norton);
- _Folklore: A Study and Research Guide_, 1976, St. Martin's (out of
- print). JHB is one of the leading folklorists in this field today
- and has done much to popularize the study of ULs. Also has a great
- back hand and skis a mean "figure 11."
-
- Alan Dundes, _Cracking Jokes: Studies of Sick Humor Cycles and
- Stereotypes_, 1987, Ten Speed Press. Curious about what makes
- sick humor popular? Check this baby out so you'll be ready the
- next time an Olympian gets whacked with a crowbar.
-
- Alan Dundes and Carl Pagter, _Urban folklore from the Paperwork
- Empire_, 1975, American Folklore Society. You want it when?
- Find out about it and other Xerox lore in the modern (or not
- so modern) office in this series of collections by Dundes and
- Pagter.
-
- Arthur Goldstuck, _The Ink in the Porridge: Urban Legends of
- South African Elections_, Penguin, 1994. Interesting short
- study on ULs in a seminal event in our time. You can also
- email him at arthurg@is.co.za.
-
- Beng af Klintberg, _R&ttan i Pizzan_ (The rat in the pizza. The
- '&' is an a-with-a-ring-above), Pan, 1990 ISBN 91-1-893831-0.
- Haakon Styri, maintainer of the Norway AFU ftp site says Bengt
- af Klintberg writes in a Brunvandish style. He lists 100 legends,
- unfortunately not classified by topic. Though many of the legends
- are well known in other parts of the world there are a few that
- may be European.
-
- Iona and Peter Opie, _The Lore and Language of School-Children_,
- Oxford, Clarendon P., 1972. Noted poster Jack Campin says:
- "This [book] has some mind-boggling figures on the speed and
- effectiveness of folklore transmission by kids."
-
- Paul Smith, _The Complete Book of Office Mis-practice_, 1984, London;
- Boston: Routledge & K. Paul, 1984. Covers some of the same subject
- matter as Dundes and Pagter. Other comments by Jack Campin:
-
- "He's also done a series of popular books with titles
- incorporating the phrase "Nasty Legends" (rather like
- Brunvand's stuff) and some heavyweight folklore theory
- in a series he edits called "Perspectives on Contemporary
- Legend"
-
- Smith has also co-authored two books with Gillian Bennett
- entitled, _Monsters with Iron Teeth_, 1988, and _Perspectives
- on Contemporary Legend_, 1987, both published by Sheffield
- Sheffield Academic Press.
-
- Patricia Turner, _I Heard It Through the Grapevine: Rumor in African-
- American Culture_, 1993, University of California Press. Provides
- interesting insights into the propagation of urban legends in
- African-American Culture.
-
-
- ISCLR:
- ======
-
- The International Society for Contemporary Legend Research (ISCLR)
- has two publications of interest.
-
- _FOAFtale News_ is the newsletter of the society and contains
- information from around the world along with extensive
- bibliographies and reports and notes from other related publications.
- It is published quarterly.
-
- _Contemporary Legend_ is a refereed journal of scholarly articles
- on legends. It is edited by Paul Smith.
-
- Membership in ISCLR entitles one to both publications. For US and
- Canadian subscription information, write to: Paul Smith, Department
- of Folklore, Memorial University, St. John's, Newfoundland, CANADA
- A1C 5S7. Subscription rates as of July 1994 are US$18 or 10 pounds
- (UK).
-
-
- SOME GOOD PRIMARY REFERENCES:
- =============================
-
- Cecil Adams (_The Straight Dope_, 1984, ISBN 0-345-33315-2, _More of the
- Straight Dope_, 1988, ISBN 0-345-35145-2, _Return of the Straight
- Dope_, 1994, ISBN 0-345-38111-4, all published by Ballantine Books).
- Author of "The Straight Dope" Q&A column of _The Chicago Reader_ and
- is syndicated in many alternative newspapers. Worth reading if only
- for for his writing style. You can e-mail his editor, Ed Zotti, at
- ezotti@merle.acns.nwu.edu.
-
- Alfie Kohn, _You Know What They Say...The Truth About Popular Beliefs_,
- 1990, ISBN 0-06-092115-3, Harper. Pretty good book with, get this,
- *references* to stuff in the back. This is a good habit which some
- of you folks may want to try sometime...
-
- Paul Krassner (ed.), _Best of the Realist_, 1984, ISBN 0-89471-287-X,
- Running Press. The worst thing about _BotR_, is that the reprints
- aren't dated. Otherwise the book is a must, especially for the
- generation X crowd: articles by Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, Robert
- Anton Wilson, Terry Southern, Mae Brussel, and Margo St. James; art
- by Rodrigues, S. Clay Wilson, and the pre-carp Richard Guindon. Not
- to mention "The Parts Left Out of the Kennedy Book", "The Case of
- the Cock-Sure Groupies" (the Plaster Casters), and an illegal Groucho
- Marx quote: "I think the only hope this country has is Nixon's
- assassination." [Unfortunately, this appears to be out of print.]
-
- G. & C. Merriam Co., _Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary_, 1977, ISBN
- 0-87779-348-4. Great bedside reading. Check it out sometime.
- There's also the OED, but Bruce Tindall has first dibs on it.
-
- William Poundstone (_Big Secrets_, 1983, Quill, ISBN 0-688-04830-7,
- _Bigger Secrets_, 1986, Houghton-Mifflin, ISBN 0-395-53008-3,
- and _Biggest Secrets_, Quill (Wm. Morrow), ISBN 0-688-13792-X).
- Sorry, it's a secret. Peter Trei says the stuff on Masons is total
- BS, but then, he WOULD say that. Perhaps the weakest of the lot
- though still on target and somewhat interesting for the most part.
-
- Jesse Sheidlower (ed.), _The F-Word,_, Random House, 1995, ISBN
- 0-679-76427-5. But only if you give a fuck.
-
- Bruce Tindall and Mark Watson, _Did Mohawks Wear Mohawks? And Other
- Wonders, Plunders, and Blunders_, Quill - William and Morrow, 1991.
- ISBN 0-688-09859-2. Damn good book (even if his father did write
- _America: A Narrative History_) with only one wrong entry so far.
- Just don't believe what they say about dalmatians, humans, and urea.
- You can even e-mail Bruce on the net at tindall@mercury.interpath.net
- to blast 'im.
-
- And wouldn't you know it, the next installment which is appalling
- named _How Does Olive Oil Lose Its Virginity?_ is out. For even
- more GS check out ISBN #0-688-12681-2 by William and Morrow, 1994.
-
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- the efforts of Peter van der Linden in February 1991.
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