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- Subject: Wine (the beverage) FAQ, part8 of 10 [LONG]
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- Summary: A 10 part FAQ on the beverage wine with various asides
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- _Printed Materials_
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-
- I don't have any affiliation with any of the following. I provide
- absolutely no representation about the value, worth or usefulness of any
- reference. Most of the information here is the opinion of others. Where
- known, I've provided price/publication information. Please feel free to
- send me information on these and any other publications.
-
-
- _BOOKS _
-
- _*Adventures on the Wine Route*_ by Kermit Lynch. "Lively, somewhat
- nonconformist, and passionately devoted to good wine, full of fascinating
- characters and interesting insights. A great read, even if you aren't
- particularly interested in wine. Warning: Lynch, while American, does not
- look kindly on the American emphasis on rating wines and on favoring "big"
- wines. But even if you don't agree, it's good to hear a different point of
- view."
-
- _*American Wine Society Publications*_. Source for technical wine
- publications. In the U.S., call (716) 225-7613.
-
- _*California Wine Atlas*_ by Bob ???. "Considered by many to be the best
- reference for California wines."
-
- _*The Game of Wine *_by Forrest Roberts and Gilbert Cross. "Charming,
- witty and full of anecdotes, recipes and advice." Sounds like fun reading
- about the entire concept of drinking wine, not just another tomb about
- wine drinking.
-
- _*How and Why To Build a Wine Cellar*_, by Richard Gold.
-
- _*How To Test and Improve Your Judging Ability*_ by ? Marcus. 97 page
- booklet. Describes common wine flaws.
-
- _*Assorted books by Hugh Johnson*_. Several classic and well-regarded
- works, including the annual Pocket Guide containing varietals, terms,
- regions, producers and vineyards, vintages, wine and food, etc. One poster
- did mention about the pocket guide: "not recommended for the extremely
- myopic." Non-pocket version available at a higher price. "Hugh Johnson's
- Modern Encyclopedia of Wine" "is a excellent book talking about all wine
- regions around the world. It is very indepth and well written." Also,
- "Hugh Johnson's Atlas is a classic, with detailed maps of winemaking areas
- around the world."
-
- _*Kellgren's Wine Book Catalog*_, Specialty Books Company, P.O. Box 616,
- Croton-On-Hudson, New York, 10520-0616, 1-800-274-4816. Book store or
- service. Free catalog may be available at the phone number shown.
-
- _*Masterglass*_, Jancis Robinson. Contains (I'm told) an excellent,
- unpretentious list of wine terms.
-
- _*Parker's Wine Buyer's Guide*_, Robert M. Parker, Jr. (Simon and
- Schuster/Firestone): Notwithstanding negative comments one might hear
- about "Parker," this is an excellent reference. It lists 7500 wines from
- around the world and can give you a very good idea of what is good or bad
- (though, as always, _you_ may not agree with the tastes of the author).
- There is introductory information on, among other things, how to buy and
- store wine and aging of the wine. There is an overview of wine growing
- areas, ideas about the quality of the wine in recent years from those
- areas and commentaries about specific wines. A numerical rating system is
- used. Over 1000 pages, my latest copy (1993, 3rd edition) was US $21.00.
-
- _*Sotheby's World Wine Encyclopedia*_ by Tom Stevenson (1988, 480 pages.),
- US $40, Bulfinch Press, Little Brown & Company; 25 British Pounds, Dorling
- Kindersley UK. Glossy format with colored pictures. Wine regions,
- producers, maps, aging, varieties. Comprehensive wine reference. Probably
- dated if no new publication since 1988.
-
- _*The Wines of France*_ by Steven Spurrier, Steven. "Great addition to any
- library, and his section on the grapes used in wine is excellent,
- comprehensive and to be trusted."
-
- *_University of California at Davis Book Catalog_ *contains a number of
- books about wine.
-
- _*Vines, Grapes and Wines*_ by Jancis Robinson. Publisher Mitchell Beazly
- of London, England. "More concentrated information covering all major wine
- producing countries than anything else I have read."
-
- _*Vintage Time Charts*_ by Jancis Robinson. Descriptions of how long to
- age particular wines. Described as the "classic" work.
-
- _*Windows on the World Complete Wine Course*_ by Kevin Zaraly. Sterling
- Publishing Company. My copy printed 1993, marked at US $22.95. "Helpful
- for people getting started."
-
- _*Wine Appreciation Guild Catalog*_. Wine Appreciation Guild, 155
- Connecticut Street, San Francisco, California 94107. Large selection of
- books; retail and wholesale orders. Catalog has blurb on each book and
- therefore is a good reference all by itself.
-
- _*The Wine Book *_by Oz Clarke.
-
- _*Wine Appreciation Guide Catalog*_. 155 Connecticut Street, San
- Francisco, California 94107. From a correspondent: The catalog lists (and
- describes) just about every English language book on wine published in the
- last 30 years.
-
- _*Wine Spectator's Ultimate Guide to Buying Wine*_, Wine Spectator Press,
- a division of M. Shanken Communications. (212) 684-4224 or fax (212)
- 684-5424. US $19.95.
-
- _*Wine Tasting*_ by Michael Broadbent (Fireside/Simon and Schuster; my
- copy reprinted 1990, marked at US $10.95). This pocket sized book is very
- nice, small (with tiny print), yet in-depth. It isn't about particular
- producers, its about _WINE_. What it looks, smells and tastes like. How to
- taste. Color plates to show how wine changes. Nice section on how to put
- on a serious wine tasting.
-
-
- X. LEARNING ABOUT WINE
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-
- Miscellaneous
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-
-
- COURSES ON WINE
-
- _*The University of California at Davis*_ confers college degrees. Their
- web site is http://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/.
-
- _*The Wine and Spirit Education Trust Diploma*_ is recommended to UK
- students considering studying for the "Master of Wine" examination.
- However the Master of Wine is an international qualification with study
- courses and exams run in Boston, Sydney, Montpellier and London. It is
- open to any one in the trade who can demonstrate adequate experience and
- knowledge as it is a difficult exam to pass. It takes two years with a
- dissertation on an aspect of viticulture or vinification in year 1 with
- written and tasting exams in year 2. Potential candidates should contact
- the Institute of Masters of Wine. Five Kings House, 1 Queen Street Place,
- London EC4R 1QS, Great Britain; +44 171 236 4427, fax: + 44 171 329 0298.
-
-
- _WINERIES_
-
- Many people have asked for an on-line compendium of every winery in
- existence. The best place to get this information is from a book. If you
- insist on using the Internet, then you are relying on the talents of some
- dedicated compilers or the commercial leanings of the wineries themselves.
- (I'm not saying they may not have altruistric motives, the Internet is
- cheap, but let's be real.) For some lists of wineries on the Internet, see
- the section on Internet Resources. As of this writing, more wine magazines
- are setting up web sites. They probably will provide a great deal of
- information (perhaps for a fee) on specific wines and wineries.
-
- Wineries are an excellent place to learn about wine when approached with
- the proper frame of mind: drunkeness is not a particularly good way to
- remember much about what you were drinking. Another very important point
- to remember about tasting at wineries is that you probably aren't tasting
- the wine the way you would at home. Besides the somewhat crowded,
- sometimes rushed situations you face in the winery, the bottle might have
- been open for hours or even days. In my mind, however, the most important
- thing is that you probably will drink the wine with food at home. The
- differences in the way a wine tastes when you are eating can be
- momumental. What might be a so-so wine in the winery might be wonderful at
- home, and vice-versa. Nevertheless you can usually get a good idea of the
- wines you like when tasting a various wineries in a particular area over a
- short period of time. Take notes, have a good time, and use the "dump
- bucket."
-
- While traveling through wine areas, you will find that many wineries let
- you come in and taste their wines free of charge. Since we aren't really
- out to get drunk on these trips, we find ourselves constantly asking the
- pourers to "go easy". Purists may say that you need more than we ask for
- in order to get enough wine in the glass to swirl and smell. We find that
- we get along just fine without a large pour. Makes us feel better about
- not "wasting" wine. Perhaps we are naive about the wasting part, since the
- wineries know what they are doing when it comes to the promotion and sale
- of their wine. But this brings us to the subject of charging for tasting.
- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch, so the saying goes, but free
- wine tastings seem to come awfully close. Once you're used to the concept,
- walking into a place and being charged for the "priviledge" of finding out
- whether you want to spend a lot of money on buying something you can't
- otherwise personally know anything about seems almost offensive! (Really,
- how much more subjective can any subject be than the choice of wine to
- drink?)
-
- Or course it all comes down to supply and demand. Wineries that find that
- people will pay may charge. Answer? There are still _lots_ of wineries
- making great wine that do not charge. If you are so inclined, tell the
- charging winery so and walk out. (We're not going to get into the argument
- that charging cuts down on drunkeness; there are enough people that will
- pay and get drunk anyhow.) A winery may not often be pouring their best
- wines, which, in many cases, are in short supply. However, if you look
- like you are somewhat knowledgeable about what you want to drink, know a
- bit about the particular winery's wine, and are genuinely interested in
- purchasing the more expensive wines (and show up when things aren't so
- busy), you may find that you will be allowed to taste them, for the
- asking. Sometimes a winery will charge for tasting the better wines. This
- seems a fair compromise (so maybe we'll support them on this one, though
- perhaps we're still naive). Some wineries, for a price (if not outrageous,
- certainly justified, this time), go all out and will pour much older
- "library" wines which they have stored and are now again releasing for
- sale. Such tastings are very informative, for even if you can't afford to
- buy the wine, you can get some idea of how more current wines will "age,"
- or just what all the hoopla is about when people talk about drinking wines
- that have been around for a long time.
-
- For a more personal look at visiting wineries, check out the section on
- Learning About Wine: Starting Out.
-
-
- _WINE TASTINGS_
-
- Horace Rumpole, aging Old Bailey hack (also known as a barrister
- practicing law in the criminal courts in London), attending what
- undoubtedly was his first wine tasting after many years consuming the less
- than stately Chateau Thames Embankment, given a somewhat more pleasing
- claret, found that it was a vintage "Cool'd a long age in the deep-delved
- earth, tasting of Flora and the country green." And while he reveled in
- drinking the "flavour of Dance, and Provencal song, and sunburnt mirth,
- mixed with a dash of wild strawberries," he was bedeviled by a fellow
- taster who demanded: "can't you spit?" [For a fun time, read Rumpole and
- the Blind Tasting, in Rumpole's Last Case, by John Mortimer, Penguin
- Books. Or read any Rumpole story! Also a popular TV program. Also a
- popular audio series, especially when performed (not just read) by Leo
- McKern--doing all the voices. OK, so wine isn't the only thing I like....]
-
- Poor Rumpole. All he was trying to do was enjoy a decent wine and he is
- reproached for failing to use the expectoration area. Of course the idea
- is that you don't _drink_ the wine, you merely _taste_ it. Among other
- things, this means that you don't get drunk. The concept of spittoons, or
- sandboxes, properly placed, is real factor in "real" tastings. It should
- be OK to drink the wine when there aren't many being served and care is
- taken. But if there is a large number of wines to sample, drinking them
- all is going to become a problem.
-
- On the other hand, you don't have to be all uppity about tasting wine.
- Friends gathering to try out a number of wines (in moderation) is a good
- way to learn about wine. "Dumping" the glass eventually is a good idea
- just to avoid the drunkenness, which, among other things, will prevent you
- from learning anything at all.
-
- The really serious also get into "blind tastings" where the participants
- (often contestants) must identify not only the type of wine, but the
- vintage and producer. There are those who can do that; there are also
- those who think the only way you _can_ do that is to practice it 3 or 4
- times a week. Having never participated in a blind tasting (and since I
- have an abysmal memory, I doubt that I ever will), I cannot attest to how
- much fun such a contest is. There are certainly those who take great
- pleasure in it. Many people seem to think that you add something to the
- wine tasting experience by injecting something like a contest into it. For
- many this can be intimidating.
-
- Of course, the best reason for tasting wine under blinded conditions
- (meaning where the identity of each wine isn't known until after the
- tasting is done) is so that the tasters can judge the wine on its own
- merits, uninfluenced by any prejudices or expectations based on where the
- wine is from or what year it is. Blind tastings often yield surprising
- results, such as when an obscure wine is strongly preferred by the tasters
- over the first growth Bordeaux that was also in the tasting. Most people
- who taste blind do so in order to evaluate the wine entirely by its taste,
- rather than by its label.
-
- A very knowledgeable wine person tells me: "What can be really amusing
- when you have a wine snob (not a knowledgeable connoisseur, but one of
- those who likes to put on airs and brag about how anything except
- first-growth Bordeaux is junk) over for dinner is to decant a bottle of
- something good bug cheap into a bottle with a posh label on it. Then,
- after the snob has gushed rhapsodic over the wine, show him or her the
- other bottle and explain what you did." I'm not necessarily a promoter of
- deception, but I certainly don't advocate snobbery; do this at your own
- risk!
-
- An interesting idea in any event is to taste a "first label" against the
- "second label" of a vintner. Some wineries will put out their best wine
- under their own name, and then use a different label for wine that they
- like but don't think is worthy of their normal production. Tasting between
- the two can give a good opportunity to see what the winemaker thinks about
- similar products.
-
-
- _WINE CRITICS_
-
- Robert Parker, an attorney who was able to do something which suited his
- interests and perhaps to many is a whole lot more fun. He got to become
- the ultimate wine expert. Lots of people "don't like Robert Parker." They
- miss the point. Robert Parker, like all of us, has his own likes and
- dislikes. The fact that "Parker" likes a wine is completely of no
- consequence; if _you_ don't like the wine (or vice-versa). If you wish to
- follow Parker because you know nothing about a wine and want to know where
- to begin, that's certainly fine, and not a bad idea. If you like a wine
- and Parker doesn't and you change your mind about it because you believe
- Parker over your own palate, then I'll wonder about you. Taste is on the
- tongue of the beholder.
-
- The only _true_ problem with Parker is that if he _really likes_ a wine,
- don't wait around long trying to find it. It'll be gone before you get a
- chance to buy (or the price will increase out of your range). Fortunately
- there are quite a few wines that Parker doesn't like that many find
- absolutely wonderful and remain bargains. Since wine making is an annual
- event, you get to figure this out every year.
-
- Mr. Parker has been found on the Prodigy service at EXP42B@prodigy.com.
-
- (A note: Posts indicate that Mr. Parker has an investment in a winery
- (with his brother-in-law) in Oregon; that he does not review the wine, nor
- mention the name of the wine in his writings and reviews. Posts generally
- liked the Pinot.)
-
-
- XI. PHYSIOLOGIC NOTES ON WINE_
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-
- Alcohol can damage your liver. On the other hand, there has been much
- suggestion that the drinking of wine is somehow "good for you." While it
- might calm your nerves a bit, what many want to say is that, for whatever
- reason, it can protect you from heart disease, perhaps by lowering
- cholesterol. Some point to those parts of the world where people eat high
- fat diets, drink lots of wine, and live to a very old age.
-
- Some of the problems here are statistics. A good statistician can prove
- black is white, more or less. There may be other factors that are
- overlooked.
-
- The bottom line is that, at this stage of knowledge, it probably isn't a
- good idea to _start_ drinking to obtain hypothetical protective effects.
- Whether it helps you if you are drinking is controversial. Most people
- will agree that if you drink "too much," it is _not_ good for you (for a
- variety of reasons).
-
-
- _ALLERGIC REACTIONS TO WINE_
-
- The biggest complaint here is that some people develop headaches from
- drinking wine. There are several proposed causes. One is that sulfites
- added by the producer (or can be naturally present in lesser amounts)
- cause the allergic reaction. Furthermore, it has been suggested that
- cheaper wines are likely to have more sulfites as a cheap substitute for
- careful grape selection and winemaking. Some people say that it is only
- red wine that causes them a problem. Sulfites are present in both red and
- white wines. Another possible cause is anthocyanin pigments which are what
- makes "red" grapes red. These are also present in blue cheese. If both
- cause you problems, maybe you've found a reason?
-
- While there are wines that claim to be sulfite free, most people will tell
- you that this is not possible, as sulfites exist in nature on the grape.
- However, the amount would be less if not artificially introduced. But
- since sulfur dioxide is used to control how the wine is produced (getting
- rid of unwanted yeasts, molds and bacteria), some feel that you may not
- get as good a wine. United States law requires that wine with over 10
- parts per million of sulfites state that the wine "contains" sulfites.
-
- Solutions suggested by some (but not recommended or approved by me in any
- way) are: Drink lots of water before drinking the wine. Take a pain-killer
- first. The problem with this last one is that is known to enhance the
- alcoholic affect. The best answer is, if this is a problem, don't drink
- wine. Some suggest wines not made from grapes.
-
- I have received notes (and welcome more) from people indicating that the
- following wineries may produce wine that claim to be "sulfite free." If
- this is important to you, you should directly with these producers:
-
- + Organic Wine Works, Felton, California. Entire line of reds and whites
- + Chateau Le Barradis, Monbazillac, France.
-
- _CALORIES IN WINE_
-
- Most of the calories in wine come from alcohol, though some additional
- calories come from the "food" that came from the fruit (proteins,
- carbohydrates [like sugar], etc.). Since some wines are more dry than
- sweet (that is, they have less sugar), those wines would have a little
- less calories. Also, wines vary in alcohol content, which would, of
- course, also affect the number of calories from alcohol. The United States
- Department of Agriculture says that 100 grams of "table wine" (12.2
- percent alcohol by volume) has 85 calories while 100 grams of "dessert
- wine" (18.8 percent alcohol by volume) has 135 calories.
-
- In any event, a pretty good rule of thumb is that table wine has
- approximately 25 calories per ounce. When cooking with wine, you can end
- up boiling out the alcohol. The result is that the calorie impact from the
- wine is drastically reduced.
-
-
- _PREGNANCY AND WINE_
-
- Heavy alcohol use in pregnancy can lead to birth defects. Some doctors
- feel that the safest course is not to drink any alcohol at all during
- pregnancy. Others feel that light, occasional drinking has not been shown
- to be harmful. Check with your doctor!
-
-
- _WINE AS A SLEEPING AID_
-
- The general consensus is that alcohol might help you fall asleep
- immediately but that you'll be up in the middle of the night. A warm glass
- of milk seems to be a better idea.
-
-
- _LEAD IN WINE_
-
- Some people are concerned about high levels of lead in wine. A possible
- reason is that the high acidity levels in wine help to cause lead to leach
- out of things that it touches. Lead "capsules" (the foil at the top of the
- bottle) have all but disappeared from new bottles of wine for this reason.
- You can wipe the top of a bottle with a damp cloth before pouring if you
- have an older bottle with a lead capsule. There is some reason to believe
- that lead can be leached out of lead crystal glasses. Whether this occurs
- in significant numbers in the short run I do not at this time know, but I
- have read some material that indicates it is not a good idea to store an
- alcoholic beverage in crystal decanters for long periods of time.
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