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- Part 6:
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- X-MEN COMIC BOOK QUESTIONS
- * Is Magneto Jewish or Gypsy? Was Joseph Magneto? (+)
- * What is the Hellfire Club? Who are its members? (+)
- * What is the relationship between Wolverine and Sabretooth
- supposed to be?
- * Does Wolverine have any real memories anyway? How about
- real bones?
- * Who was Wolverine before he was Wolverine? Does he even
- have a real name? (+)
- * Wolverine can regularly regenerate himself from a drop of
- blood, right?
-
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- Subject: X-MEN COMIC BOOK QUESTIONS
-
- Please note: Background information on the creators and the X-titles
- editorial offices is based on over a decade's worth of interviews,
- articles, and personal questions, and as such is not directly
- attributed here. Now that some of Marvel's staff members are on Usenet,
- they are welcomed to correct and amend any of the answers listed below.
-
-
- --- Is Magneto Jewish or Gypsy? Was Joseph Magneto? (+)
-
- It appears that Magneto is Jewish, although his wife Magda likely is a
- gypsy. However, Marvel being Marvel, it's good to set forth the
- evidence. This is a summary of Rivka Jacob's excellent research on the
- topic:
-
- In UXM #150, after Magneto thinks he has killed Kitty, he says: "I
- remember my own childhood ... the gas chambers at Auschwitz, the guards
- joking as they herded my family to their death. As our lives were
- nothing to them, so human lives became nothing to me." Storm is about to
- blast him for "killing" Kitty, and she says, "If you have a deity,
- butcher, pray to it!" Magneto answers, "As a boy, I believed. As a boy,
- I turned my back on god forever." Magneto can't be a political prisoner
- or atheist--he can only be Gypsy or Jewish if his entire family is at
- Auschwitz.
-
- In UXM #161, we see for the first and last time Magnus' tattoo from
- Auschwitz. His number is #214782. Xavier says, "That tattoo, Magnus,
- were you ...?" Magnus answers, "Auschwitz. I grew up there." Magnus'
- number is high for someone who was there from the beginning of the camp,
- but it is a standard number, without the A of the 1944 arrivals, or the
- Z of the Gypsies, or the other special classification symbols. Of
- course, the penciller probably didn't know these details...
-
- In Vision and the Scarlet Witch, Vol. 1, #4, Magneto tells Vision about
- his youth. Pictured is the Auschwitz camp, with guards tormenting
- emaciated prisoners, one of whom displays a prominent and exaggerated
- Star of David on his clothing. In the next panel, however, Magneto sort-
- of goes into a fantasy. He says, "But unlike the other victims, I
- possessed the power to fight back." He imagines he's hurling Nazi tanks
- away with magnetic energy. Only Jewish prisoners wore the Star of David.
-
- In UXM #199, Magneto (with Lee Forrester and Kitty Pryde) arrives at the
- National Holocaust Memorial in Washington, DC. (It's not really Lee, but
- Mystique, trying to capture Magneto). "Lee" says: "Man's inhumanity to
- man... how easily the race kills." Magneto answers: "Then, Lee, it was
- the Jews. My nightmare has ever been that tomorrow it will be Mutants."
- Why would he say that, if he weren't Jewish? Next, Magneto tells Kitty
- EXACTLY how to address the gathering in order to get information about
- dead or missing family members. Isn't it obvious that he's done this
- before? Why would he address a Jewish Holocaust gathering looking for
- information about his family if his family weren't Jewish?
-
- In UXM #211, Magneto reacts to the Morlock Massacre out of pure emotion,
- saying, "NO! The horrors of my childhood, born again...only this time,
- Mutants are the victims, instead of Jews." If he weren't Jewish, he
- wouldn't have said Jews, or he would have at least added the name of
- another people targeted by the Nazis.
-
- In New Mutants #49, Magneto dreams of the massacre of his family. Here
- we see for the first time, his family--father, mother, sister--as
- they were gunned down in front of open graves. The family members are
- dressed in middle class urban clothes. No peasant dress, no Gypsy
- clothing. It's Magnus and his family who are out of place. They are
- well-dressed, an urban family in a rural setting. This matches accounts
- of what happened to Czech and German Jewish families who were moved east
- and sometimes removed to woods and rural settings where they were shot.
-
- In the X-Men Classics #12 back-up story, we see the actual scenes of
- Magneto's and Magda's escape from Auschwitz. The war is almost over, and
- it is the winter of 1944-1945. The Gypsy camp was murdered in the gas
- chambers in August 1944. This scene, by Claremont and Bolton, takes
- place on Jan. 20, 1945, two days after the camp was evacuated and the
- death marches began. Some 70 of the Sonderkommando, Jewish prisoners who
- were forced by the Nazis to lead the victims to the gas chamber, haul
- the bodies to the ovens, and burn or bury the dead, were kept to help
- destroy the evidence of the death factory, before they were to be
- killed. Some 200 women from the woman's camp, Jews, were chosen to fill
- in the huge pits where bodies were burned. The SS soldiers sent back on
- Jan. 20th were sent to kill the women. Magneto was saving Magda because
- at that point, he wasn't the target, yet.
-
- In New Mutants #61, Magneto thinks to himself, "An ill wind is coming...
- they are registering mutants... like they once registered my people in
- Poland...! Who knows what horrors await us." Only the Jews were forced
- to wear armbands with the Star of David on them, and registered before
- being forced into ghettos in Poland (beginning at the end of 1939).
- Young Magnus, who was already at Auschwitz by 1942, would only have
- experienced the Jewish people in Poland (including German Jews who had
- already been deported there in the first months of the War) being
- registered.
-
- In X-Factor Annual #4, Doom challenges Magneto to a duel of wills, with
- a helmet that pulls out unpleasant memories and torments the wearer.
- Magneto takes his turn--Doom describes what he sees, "...after the
- ignoble defeat of the Nazis in Germany, you and the woman Magda you
- rescued, fled the prison camp Auschwitz, in Poland." Doom confirms that
- Magnus and Magda "fled" or escaped Auschwitz before liberation and after
- the Gypsy camp was murdered.
-
- In Uncanny #274, Magneto recalls his life in Auschwitz: "Zaladane has no
- such compunction. And I hear the echo of Der Fuhrer's voice in the radio
- of memory, smell the awful stench of the sick and dying as the cattle
- cars brought the comdemned to Auschwitz. I wear red, the color of blood,
- in tribute to their lost lives. And the harder I try to cast it aside,
- to find a gentler path... the more irresistibly I'm drawn back. I should
- have died myself with those I loved. Instead, I carted the bodies by the
- hundreds, by the thousands... from the death house to the crematorium...
- and the ashes to the burial ground. Asking now what I could not then...
- why was I spared?!" This is what the Sonderkommando did. This is
- fundamental to the history of the Holocaust, to the history of Nazi
- Germany--making the *Jews* the ones who had to do all the dirty work in
- the death camps.
-
- In X-Factor #92, an Acolyte says, "You've seen this place Havok! You've
- seen the sentinels! You tell me... where's the sense in letting the
- flatscans do to the mutants what Hitler did to the Jews?..." The
- Acolytes have done research on Magneto; they worship him. This one says
- "the Jews" as a parallel metaphor. Why say that, if Magneto isn't
- Jewish?
-
- Now comes the infamous X-Men Unlimited #2. In that issue, Gabrielle
- Haller stated definitively that Magneto was a Gypsy of Sinte descent.
- However, nearly everything that Gabrielle Haller says about Magneto's
- history, including the claim he is a "Sinte Gypsy," is false. For
- example, Danzig was not annexed. It was a Free City, under League of
- Nations protection, that voted itself a Nazi government and welcomed the
- Nazi troops in like liberators. Gauleiter Forster, the extremely anti-
- Semitic Nazi leader of Danzig ordered all the remaining Jews of Danzig
- to be kicked out of the city in 1939, not the Gypsies. Auschwitz wasn't
- opened as a Polish political prisoner camp until the summer of 1940, not
- 1939. The Gypsies were sent to German municipal camps, in Germany and
- the Greater Reich, as early as 1933. But they were not sent to Auschwitz
- from Germany until 1943. The only people who were in a work camp in
- Auschwitz before it opened were 300 Jews from the town of Auschwitz who
- were forced to transform a collection of horse stables and army barracks
- into the Polish prisoner camp. (Fabian Nicieza wrote Magneto as a Gypsy
- at the request of editors Kelly Corvese and Bob Harras, so don't blame
- Fabian!)
-
- In X-Men #40, which takes place in Israel, Legion pulls out Magneto's
- memories. One can see a picture of young Magnus with older male
- prisoners, standing behind and below a high, barred window. This is an
- accurate portrayal of the quarters of the Sonderkommando at Auschwitz I.
- At Auschwitz I, only the Sonderkommando (other than prisoners awaiting
- execution) were kept in isolated basement cells, the windows of which
- were high, barred, and as seen from the outside, half-below ground
- level. And why is Magneto in Israel anyway? Why would a Gypsy go to
- Israel when at least 30,000 Gypsies lived in Germany in the late 1960s
- and early 1970s? And many more Romany formed a thriving community in
- Paris. Why go to Israel to "find himself" or find his "soul"? Any Jew
- can emigrate to Israel, under the Law of Return. All Magneto had to do
- was show them the tattoo on his arm, and he was home. Furthermore,
- Magnus at this time had forged papers, that identified him as "Erik
- Magnus Lehnsherr." He could have immigrated to any country in the world,
- including the United States! If he were a Gypsy, and didn't want to
- self-identify as such, why not go to America? The Romany today deeply
- resent the focus on Israel, and the support Israel enjoys among nations
- of the Western world, while the Gypsies continue to be persecuted and
- ignored.
-
- In Astonishing X-Men #3, Magneto says, "Long before Xavier died...
- before this point of divergence... I stood by helplessly as millions of
- my people were led to slaughter in the name of 'genetic purity.'" The
- AOA is a divergent timeline, starting from the same events as in our
- own timeline. 250,000 to 500,000 Gypsies were murdered (possibly as many
- as 750,000). Millions of Russians, Ukrainians, and Poles during the
- course of the invasions, and in political violence, and in acts of pure
- murder, were exterminated. But only the European Jews were "led to the
- slaughter" in the millions because of one man's racial beliefs.
-
- In X-Men #72, we learn that the name *Erik Lehnsherr* (revealed by
- Gabrielle Haller in X-Men Unlimited #2 to be Magneto's real name) is
- fake, and so Haller's assertion that Magneto is a *Sinte* Gypsy was
- based on false and forged identity papers. Basically, Magneto needed the
- fake Sinte identity to have a better chance of success on his search for
- Magda (who *was* a Gypsy) after she had run away from him. Magneto,
- speaking with Georg Odekirk, the man who forged the papers, says, "Do
- you remember what you promised me the night I came to you, torn and
- filthy, nearly a quarter century ago? I was searching for my beloved
- MAGDA, determined not to lose her as I had lost so many others in the
- fire that engulfed all of Europe during my childhood. The authorities
- were in pursuit of me for the "crime" of avenging my daughter's murder.
- I was willing to deny who I was... everything that my family died for...
- so that I could find one woman... so that I would not be caged AGAIN.
- The Erik Lehnsherr fabrication was a convenient means of ensuring that.
- You swore that the forged papers were FLAWLESS, that your skills were
- unsurpassed... but now, you have proven to be a liability. Your work has
- been called into queston by my enemies, and they will trace Erik
- Lehnsherr the Sinte BACK to you." Odekirk protests, "That is impossible!
- That forgery was impeccable! My work is..." Magneto answers: "It was not
- ENOUGH! You gave birth to Erik Lehnsherr, Odekirk. And tonight, you have
- killed him. My secrets shall die with him. All that remains now... is
- MAGNUS." Only the Jews and Gypsies were targeted as entire peoples, and
- killed for no reason other than they were Jews and Gypsies. Magnus was
- either one, or the other. Since in X-Men #72 it is revealed that he is
- NOT a Gypsy, we must conclude he was born a Jew.
-
- More recent issues have supported the retcon of the Magneto-as-Gypsy
- retcon that appeared in X-Men Unlimited #2. In X-Men #111, Trish Tilby
- calls Magneto the "rumored son of Israel." Furthermore, in X-Men #112,
- Scott Summers describes Magneto as a Jew: "It's ironic, really. Magneto
- lost his family in a Nazi death camp, persecuted just because they were
- Jewish for the crime of being 'different.' Fifty-odd years later ... and
- this time he's the monster. It's his army prepared to cleanse the Earth
- of a race they've decided isn't worthy to continue. he's become what
- he's always hated." It would be unlikely that the writers and editors of
- the comics would include references to Magneto as Jewish unless they
- were envisioning him as such. Outside canon, Magneto is described as
- Jewish in the 1996-97 "Mutant Empire" trilogy of novels by Christopher
- Golden.
-
- If you want more details, including scans of relevant passages and
- images, visit the "Magneto FAQs and Background Info" section of Alara's
- Magneto Page at http://www.alara.net/xbooks/mag/faq.html.
-
- As for the Joseph/Magneto cloning issue, Terrafamilia helps us out: To
- be a stickler for detail-- Joseph was emphatically stated to *not* be a
- clone. A copy, yes, but not a clone. Astra, a previously unknown
- character retconned to having been an original member of the Brotherhood
- of Evil Mutants, replicated Magneto using various and sundry bits of
- highly advanced alien tech she had snatched over the years during her
- travels through the galaxy (she's a high power intradimensional portal
- style teleporter). Basically, she sent Magneto through a molecular
- transporter type system and made a copy, which she altered to be younger
- and more pliable. Unfortunately Magneto escaped during his and Joseph's
- first encounter, so Joseph had time to develop a mind of his own while
- he was supposed to be tracking down his quarry. Joseph's dead now,
- having sacrificed himself for some reason or another.
-
- As for Magneto's existence... Magneto was stabbed by Wolverine in X-MEN
- #113. In NEW X-MEN #115, he appeared in a wheelchair, sitting in a
- building in Hammer Bay as it was crushed by a Sentinel. He was presumed
- dead as of that issue, until being revealed as Xorn in New X-Men #146.
-
-
- --- What is the Hellfire Club? Who are its members? (+)
-
- The Hellfire Club is a direct homage / tribute to the 1960s UK Avengers
- show with Patrick MacNee and Diana Rigg. In an episode called "A Touch
- of Brimstone", Steed and Mrs. Peel face a top secret political group
- which named itself after the legendary 18th-century secret society. The
- members of the "Inner Circle" all wear period costumes, and at one
- point Mrs. Peel assumes the role of "the Queen of Sin", wearing a black
- leather costume that's the image of the White Queen. (That's also why
- the White Queen has the first name Emma--it's an homage to "Emma Peel".)
- John Byrne has admitted using it as an inspiration, since it was one of
- his favorite action/advenute shows growing up. Hellfire Clubs did exist
- in the real world, but they were usually "gentlemen's" clubs of the 18th
- century dealing as upper-class brothels. The best-known characters were
- based on popular actors: In the X-Men Companion II (Fantagraphics Books,
- 1982), Byrne says that Sebastian Shaw was based on Robert Shaw, Harry
- Leland was Orson Wells, Donald Pierce was Donald Sutherland, and Jason
- Wyngarde is Peter Wyngarde.
-
- Anyway, in Marvel Comics, there have been many different incarnations of
- the American Hellfire Club / Inner Circle, as well as numerous
- international clubs. The HC members tend to be mutants who want to rule
- the world through a combination of raw power and subtle political and
- financial maneuvers. Membership is passed down to one's offspring, so
- people like Warren Worthington III (Angel) and Brian Braddock (Captain
- Britain) are members of the club. The club first appeared at the start
- of the Dark Phoenix Saga in Uncanny X-Men.
-
- According to Ultimate X-Men (the coffee-table book, not the text-story
- collection or the comic series of the same name), the American branch
- of the Hellfire Club was founded in the 1770s by "wealthy trading
- company owner Sir Patrick Clemens and his mistress, Diana Knight" who
- emigrated from Britain to New York City. The Hellfire Club mini-series
- reveals that the American club members were loyalists who battled the
- Captain America of the American Revolution. The mini-series also gives
- some background on Sebastian Shaw, showing how he transformed the Inner
- Circle of wealth and privelege to an Inner Circle of mutants.
-
- The backup story of Classic X-Men #7 introduces the reader to the
- previous leaders of the club, namely White King Edward Buckman and his
- White Queen, Paris Seville. According to OHOTMUDE, Shaw had up until
- then risen to Black Bishop. On the same New Year's Eve when Jean Grey
- became the Phoenix, Buckman was telling Sebastian Shaw what a fine Black
- King he'd make. However, this was just a ruse to put Shaw in a false
- sense of security, since Buckman and Paris actually intended to kill all
- mutants, including Shaw and his four associates: Emma Frost, Harry
- Leland, Tessa and Lourdes Chantel. In the fight that ensued, Lourdes
- Chantel (Shaw's lover, a teleporter) was killed. Retribution was quick
- to follow; under Emma Frost's telepathic control Buckman shot all of the
- members of the Council of the Chosen before Shaw snapped his neck. Shaw
- then took control of the Club, and renamed the Council the "Inner
- Circle."
-
- The club was formally introduced to X-Men readers during the Dark
- Phoenix Saga. The Inner Circle was lead by Sebastian Shaw (the Black
- King) and telepath Emma Frost (the White Queen). Shaw's assistant was
- Tessa, an extremely intelligent human who later joined the X-Men as
- Sage (where she displayed newly-found telepathic powers). The Black
- Bishop was Harry Leland, who could manipulate mass. The White Bishop was
- Donald Pierce, a cyborg who wanted to become White King. Mastermind, who
- disguised himself in order to lure Phoenix into the club as its Black
- Queen, was an applicant for Inner Circle membership.
-
- The Hellfire Club appeared again in Marvel Graphic Novel #4, which
- introduced the New Mutants. Pierce worked against Xavier in recruiting
- Cannonball, but Tessa realized that Pierce was a threat to the Inner
- Circle, and promised to deal with him. (Pierce was later seen in full
- cyborg mode leading the Reavers in the Australian Outback era of
- Uncanny. Donald Pierce returned in the Domino mini-series and later
- turned up during the Ladronn issues of Cable.)
-
- Years later, around the time of Uncanny #180-190, Selene became the new
- Black Queen, after she was introduced by her agent/worshipper Frederick
- von Roehm, (the Black Rook). Selene was a type of vampire, and she'd
- appeared in New Mutants. Around the same time, Emanuel Da Costa (father
- of New Mutant Roberto DaCosta) was recruited to become the White Rook.
- Issues of Uncanny also revealed that Emma Frost was training her own set
- of younger mutants, the Hellions, who went up against the X-Men before
- becoming a longtime rival of the New Mutants.
-
- After the defeat of Nimrod in Central Park, the Hellfire Club
- disappeared from Uncanny, but continued to appear in The New Mutants,
- where Frost, Shaw, and Selene pitted The Hellions against Xavier's
- students. The two teams interacted on a number of occassions.
- During this time, Magneto served as headmaster of Xavier's school.
- In one memorable story (after the Beyonder killed and resurrected them)
- the New Mutants became Hellions (and therefore wards of the Hellfire
- Club). Magneto was named to the position of White King. He and Storm
- shared the title for a while, and Magneto called himself the Grey King
- after Shaw was booted out of the club (circa New Mutants #75).
-
- The Hellfire Club underwent a number of dramatic changes in the 1990s.
- In Uncanny #281, the Hellions were killed and Emma Frost was put into a
- coma (she woke in Uncanny #314). Soon after, Sebatian Shaw was
- overthrown by Shinobi Shaw, who was supposed to be Sebastian's son, but
- had mass / intangibility powers more like those of Harry Leland.
- Shinobi replaced the entire Inner Circle (some with members of The
- Upstarts) and this new Circle is what stands in X-Men Annual #3. The
- "upstart" Inner Circle was composed of Shinobi Shaw (Black King),
- Benazir Kaur, Reeva Payge, and Benedict Kine (White King). It's only
- assumed that the aforementioned ladies held the rank of queen. Circa
- Uncanny #319, Shinobi attempted to bring Storm, Psylocke, and Angel in
- as members of the Inner Circle, but they refused.
-
- The Club next appeared in Generation X's first annual. Emma Frost's loss
- of the Hellions caused her to align with Xavier and train his new team.
- This resulted in her abandoning her position in the Club, though she was
- still known as the White Queen. Her younger sister, Cordelia, tried to
- insinuate herself into Shinobi's Hellfire Club, but she was refused
- entry.
-
- After Onslaught, Sebastian Shaw was finally able to overthrow his son.
- Selene returned to the Club as well, bringing with her Trevor Fitzroy
- and X-Man's Madelyne Pryor. Madelyne eventually double-crossed Selene
- and sought to supplant her as the Black Queen. Issues of X-Man indicated
- that Madelyne assumed the title for a short time, and Sebastian Shaw
- called her "my queen." This version of the Inner Circle did not last
- very long, though. Madelyne soon left to follow Nate Grey (and was again
- replaced by Selene) while Fitzroy sent himself to the future as the
- Chronomancer (see Bishop: The Last X-Man #1). Tessa also announced that
- she was no longer in the employ of Shaw, and later aligned herself with
- the X-Men. At one point, Emma's sister Adrienne Frost announced that she
- was the new White Queen (circa Generation X #62) but she was never seen
- in that role.
-
- Club membership was readjusted once more beginning with Fantastic Four
- Annual '99, which established that Black Queen Selene was running the
- club with the demon Blackheart (Mephisto's son) as her Black King.
- Selene later showed up in X-Force, where she converted Roberto DaCosta
- into an HC member. Berto should have inherited his father's White Rook
- position, but he's apparently the Black Rook. No current White Hellfire
- Club members are confirmed as such.
-
- As if that wasn't enough, there have been quite a few stories mentioning
- the (presumably original) London branch of the Hellfire Club. Beginning
- in Excalibur #92, Warren Ellis mentioned the London branch. It was
- connected to the American Club by name and occassional association,
- but the London Club had distanced itself enough that Shinobi Shaw
- convinced Brian Braddock (Captain Britain) to enter the London Club and
- act as informant for whatever plan was brewing. The London Club used the
- colors Red and White for its Inner Circle, as opposed to the Black and
- White of the New York Club. During the Excalibur run leading up to issue
- #100, Brian planned to enter as the Red Bishop (since his father had
- apparently held that position), but he ended up becoming its Black Rook.
-
- The Red King was an Indian man we'd never seen before, and the Black
- King was likewise a new character. The Red Queen was sorceress Margali
- Szardos, better known as Amanda Sefton's mom and Nightcrawler's adoptive
- mother. The Black Queen, named Emma Steed, was a psionic skinner who
- looked very much like the Damask character that appeared in the Age of
- Apocalypse storyline. (She was also the spitting image of Diana Rigg,
- who played Emma Peel in the classic Avengers episode mentioned above.)
- The Red Rook, Scribe, was a recorder of sorts, whose body was being used
- by Mountjoy, a refugee from Bishop's timeline. She had powers of
- intangibility, superior strength, and agility, which may have come from
- Mountjoy instead of from her own ability. (It should be noted that
- Mountjoy was a refugee from Bishop's future who was revealled to have
- snuck through Fitzroy's gateway while riding another criminal. Bishop
- became aware of his prescence in the mainstream timeline present and
- pursued him in theBishop Limited series by Ostrander and Pacheco).
-
- Excalibur #100 revealed that the London Hellfire Club and black ops
- organization Black Air had bribed their way into the pockets of many
- important politicians. The Club attempted to utilise the powers of a
- demon trapped under London to cause enough chaos that they and their
- agents in Black Air could seize power. They kidnapped Excalibur member
- Douglock to use as a sort of power conduit, but unfortunately they'd
- underestimated the power of the demon and pretty much drove themselves
- mad. The Black King and Red King ended up dead, while Red Queen Margali
- was snatched into Hell / Limbo by Belasco (see the Soulsword question),
- and the Black Queen escaped to parts unknown. The Red Rook, Scribe,
- eventually showed up in X-Man #23, where she later battled Madelyne.
-
- The London Club also made an appearance, via flashback, in a story
- involving Cable (circa Cable #49). "The Hellfire Hunt" had Cable chase
- Donald Pierce and Sebastian Shaw across the Atlantic to prevent them
- from stealing Apocalypse's technology. On the flight there, he and Irene
- Merryweather read the diary of a previous Union Jack who had battled the
- Club in his day. The story also involved the Harbinger, a creation of
- Apocalypse (see CABLE #50). These events referenced the events of The
- Further Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix. That story--the origin of
- Sinister--revealed an alliance between Apocalypse and the London Club of
- 1889. The Hellfire Club planned to increase strife around the world,
- making the world ready for Apocalypse's eventual return.
-
- Obviously, the Hellfire Club and its Inner Circle have deep roots in
- the Marvel Universe. In addition to the London and New York branches,
- there are apparently chapters of the Hellfire Club in Moscow, Rio de
- Janeiro, Tokyo, Venice, and Hong Kong. Jamie Braddock, Brian Braddock,
- and Betsy Braddock all had membership through their father, who was a
- member of the London Inner Circle. Warren Worthington III had membership
- through his father, and his girlfriend Candy Southern was also a member.
- Howard Stark, Iron Man's father, was a member, as was Senator Robert
- Kelly (see Uncanny #247). The Hellfire Club mini-series indicates that
- the Greys (Jean's parents) probably are members as well.
-
-
- --- What is the relationship between Wolverine and Sabretooth supposed
- to be?
-
- Once upon a time, this was one of the big Unanswered Questions in the
- X-titles. Of course, once upon a time Bernard the poet was a recurring
- character in X-Men as well. Dig those groovy rhymes!
-
- Wolverine and Sabretooth were originally designed, most likely by John
- Byrne once he got his hands on them, to be son and father, respectively.
- Nothing was ever made of this, besides the usual murky hints behind the
- scenes. As time went by the relative popularity of Wolverine versus the
- great obscurity of Sabretooth (up until recently, he was still a second-
- string villain found working for no-name crime bosses in Spider-Man
- titles) made such a revelation rather silly in the eyes of Marvel, so
- they just shifted the whole thing over to them both just having some
- sort of relationship in the past, but of an unspecified sort.
-
- Recently, Wolverine and Sabretooth have been revealed simply to be
- former secret agents who worked on the same team with other mysterious
- mutants such as Maverick. A blood test performed by some considerate
- S.H.I.E.L.D. medical technicians in Wolverine #42 finally gave us a
- definite answer: they aren't related by blood at all. Sabretooth once
- believed himself to be Logan's father, but that was merely a vestige of
- the Weapon X's memory implant procedures.
-
-
- --- Does Wolverine have any real memories, anyway? How about real bones?
-
- Apparently, almost all of Wolverine's memories are constructs, thanks to
- the ever-dependable Weapon X program and the demands of Marvel writers.
- What he had as his original skeleton has become even more of a muddled
- pile of murk thanks to the Fatal Attractions storyline. A brief synopsis
- of what was once known to be true will be attempted here, but as
- discussions on racmx have shown, this question is a retcon in action,
- and even Wolverine fans are still confused over the whole affair. Those
- of us who are just neutral bystanders will have to be content with what
- follows, and leave the heavy arguments to the knowledgable Wolvie sages
- on racmx.
-
- IN THE BEGINNING, like, pre-X-Men (Hulk #181), even, Wolverine was just
- designed to be a spunky teenager working for the Canadian government,
- who had claws stuck in his gloves. One gets the opinion that perhaps
- there were some slight budgetary problems in the Canadian Secret Service
- at the time. There was a suggested subplot which would reveal him to be
- a "super-evolved" real wolverine, made into human form by the High
- Evolutionary, but that was never followed up on.
-
- Now, when Wolverine was put into the X-Men, Chris Claremont decided that
- since he was in the X-Men, he needed to have a mutant power.
- Furthermore, he didn't like the idea of having the adamantium claws just
- part of the gloves, as then "anyone who could get the gloves could be
- Wolverine." So, he revealed that the claws are actually housed in
- Wolvie's arms.
-
- Eventually, we find out that all of Wolverine's skeleton is bonded with
- adamantium. Adamantium is the hardest known non-magical substance in the
- Marvel Universe, capable of ignoring point-blank nuclear strikes. Chris
- Claremont also revealed that Wolverine was much older than he'd
- originally been planned to be. Wolverine's vaunted healing factor wasn't
- mentioned in the stories until UXM #142, although it was first shown in
- the UXM issue in the mid 110's when Wolverine got his arm chomped on by
- a dinosaur.
-
- Time passes. We learn that Wolverine may have gotten his adamantium from
- the Canadian special weapons project, Project X. There is a good clue
- out that the adamantium bonding process was stolen for Project X from
- Lord Darkwind, a Japanese nobleman who performed the same sort of
- operation on Bullseye, a nonpowered assassin and foe of Daredevil's.
- Lord Darkwind's daughter, Lady Deathstrike, has been hunting Wolverine
- for years to kill him, since him having that skeleton is an insult to
- the heritage of her father. The process was either stolen by or for
- James Hudson, head of the Alpha Flight project, which was responsible
- for the superpowered protection of the Canadian provinces and interests.
-
- Then comes the Weapon X storyline (MCP #72-84). Wolverine, who up to
- this point is thought to just be a fast-healing mutant of indeterminate
- age, is now revealed to apparently have had some form of natural "bone
- claws" where his metal ones ended up, because when they were filling him
- full of adamantium, that's where a bunch of it pooled up (sounds more
- like a scientist was skipping on quality control, but, hey, it's
- comics).
-
- The idea of the Weapon X project was that it would create all these
- super-soldiers, and then release them back into the general public with
- no memory of who they were as "sleepers." So they wouldn't remember
- their experiences at the Weapon X facilities, they were all programmed
- with false memories. To help keep watch over this odd idea, a computer
- program named Shiva was written, who could take over one in an almost
- endless series of robots to hunt down and destroy any Weapon X soldier
- who, somehow, showed signs of remembering who he really was. Currently,
- Wolvie has fooled Shiva into thinking it killed him.
-
- So, with that added to the muddle, we then get the unusual Fatal
- Attractions crossover, where Magneto pulled the adamantium off of
- Wolvie's bones through his skin pores (X-Men #25). So, Wolvie (aside
- from hurting real, real bad) was growing new bone claws because he
- originally had bone claws (and they got covered in adamantium), and
- Magneto removed the original ones.
-
- The lastest addition to this saga is that the adamantium was preventing
- his mutation from expanding any further. In this case, that meant his
- turning into pure animal, with the unbearably heightened senses and
- uncontrollable instincts (Wolverine #92).
-
- The memories problem was repaired by Epsilon Red (by the same people who
- brought you Omega Red).
-
- As of Wolverine #100, we have a new incarnation of Wolverine. To Larry
- Hama's credit, Wolverine did get his adamantium back. For a few panels.
- Then Wolverine rejected it and lost what was left of his mind. The
- current version is now a mutant who can withstand almost any amount of
- physical abuse. Elektra took it upon herself (Wolverine #101) to help
- Logan return to humanity, and it mostly worked.
-
- To make matters worse, Sabretooth had been the recipient of Wolverine's
- old adamantium. The stuff was then ripped out of Sabretooth and given
- back to Wolverine by Apocalypse, who made Wolverine his horseman Death
- for a short time. Wolverine #145 displayed the moment in a flashback,
- but the first appearance with the metal back was as Death in Astonishing
- X-Men Vol. 2 #1.
-
-
- --- Who was Wolverine before he was Wolverine? Does he even have a
- real name? (+)
-
- In 2001, a new miniseries was created by Joe Quesada, Bill Jemas, and
- Paul Jenkins, penciled by Andy Kubert and digitally painted by Richard
- Isanove. Creatively named "Origin," the book was set in Alberta and
- British Columbia, Canada, and was supposed to tie up a lot of loose ends
- about Wolverine's origins. We'll summarize the important parts for you,
- so you don't have to spend dozens of dollars trying to buy the darned
- thing.
-
- Issue #1 used misdirection, and convinced many readers that Dog, the
- beaten and abused son of lowlife groundskeeper Thomas Logan, was
- Wolverine. Origin #2, however, revealed that Wolverine was James Howlett,
- the weak child of an aristocrat, James Howlett, who was a gentle and soft
- man, and his wife Elizabeth, who has been sequestered in the mansion ever
- since the death of her first son, John. It's likely that Elizabeth
- Howlett had an affair with Thomas Logan, and that James is actually their
- son, since Thomas sneaks into the mansion in issue #2 to take Elizabeth
- away with him, and she doesn't protest too much. Either way, Thomas Logan
- ends up dead when James pops his claws. Something odd happened with his
- dead older brother, though--John Logan died at age twelve, apparently
- after an illness, and Mrs. Howlett says something to the effect of "ohh
- ... Not *again*. Not *you*, James" in Origin #3. Apparently she's seen
- *somebody* pop claws before. It's too much for her, so she kills herself
- with a rifle. When the news is brought to Grandpa Howlett, he asks Dog
- what happened... and Dog lies and says that Rose had a gun.
-
- After Grandpa Howlett forces Rose and James to leave the Howlett home,
- Rose takes James by train to British Columbia to work in a quarry. Since
- James is in a daze from the appearance of his claws, and they need to
- hide their identities due to James' killing of Thomas Logan, Rose gives
- the foreman the name of "Logan" for James. (The foreman, Smitty, is
- where Logan picks up his characteristic use of "bub.") After working
- lower-class jobs for a long while, Logan becomes stronger, following an
- internal "urge" to learn how to track animals. As of issue #4, he
- prefers the name "Logan" instead of James. He doesn't know what happened
- in Alberta (apparently his mind is blocking the memories), and though
- Rose wants to talk with him about it, he won't listen. She writes an
- account of it in her narrative diary, hoping that he'll learn the truth
- from the diary someday. Logan still seems to remember his claws, though,
- and after two years at the camp, he pops them out again.
-
- In Origin #5, Rose becomes interested in Smitty. Smitty ends up giving
- Logan a book about Japanese Samurai fighters, presumably leading to his
- interest in that culture. At the end of the issue, Grandpa Howlett talks
- of letting "the fear of what happened to his brother" cloud his
- judgement, and sends a messenger to find James and Rose--except that the
- messenger is Dog, Thomas Logan's son from issue #1. In issue #6, there's
- a cage match in which Logan is called "the Wolverine." He throws a fight
- against Smitty, who was in the cage matches to earn money so that he and
- fiancee Rose could leave the quarry. When Dog appears and fights Logan,
- Logan remembers that Dog is actually the one who killed his father, not
- him. Rose tries to stop them; popping his claws, Logan accidentally
- kills Rose. He then runs off into the Canadian wilderness, leaving Dog
- and Smitty behind.
-
- Apparently it's all true, because Xavier's freaky sister Cassandra Nova
- called Wolverine both "Mr. Logan" and "James" in NXM #126.
-
- At the WizardWorld 2002 Comicon Quesada spoke for a while about Origin.
- The story didn't tell much about Wolverine's origin, they said, because
- the people at Marvel have planned a sequel. "Bill [Jemas] wants to do it
- tomorrow," said Quesada, "but I want to let 'Origin' sit a while." So
- who knows when we'll find out the details of how Wolverine went from
- teenage quarry worker to Weapon X agent.
-
- And, just to clear things up: Dog is not Sabretooth. Really.
-
-
- --- Wolverine can regularly regenerate himself from a drop of blood,
- right?
-
- Only if you only reread one annual.
-
- In Uncanny X-Men Annual #11, the X-Men get involved in this very
- symbolic quest to determine the worthiness of the entire human race, and
- all that other light afternoon sort of entertainment. In the end, only
- Wolverine is left to strive for the goal, this immensely powerful alien
- god-gem gadget thingee. Unfortunately for Wolverine, the alien Horde is
- right behind him, and slaughters the poor mutant--but not before a
- single drop of Wolvie's blood lands on the immensely powerful alien god-
- gem which super-cosmically charges the superpowers of that blood to
- regrow an entire Wolverine, adamantium bones and all. In short, don't
- try this at home, kids, at least not without an immensely powerful alien
- god-gem of your own.
-
- The simplest evidence against Wolverine having this amount of
- regenerative ability, however, is that in the numerous issues with no
- alien god-gems in sight that Wolverine gets pounded in, none of the
- blood he's leaked so copiously over everything has ever grown into
- another Wolverine.
-
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- *** Continued in Part 7 ***
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