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- The rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ is broken up into 9 parts:
- 1/9--Introduction
- 2/9--Getting a tattoo <---YOU ARE READING THIS FILE
- 3/9--Sanitation
- 4/9--Conventions
- 5/9--Artist list
- 6/9--Care of new tattoos
- 7/9--General care/removal
- 8/9--Misc. info
- 9/9--Bibliography
-
-
- WHAT THIS FILE CONTAINS
-
- This file is structured as a traditional FAQ in the form of questions
- and answers. Questions answered in this file:
-
- Rec.arts.bodyart FAQ Part 2/9: Getting a tattoo
- Does it hurt?
- What about anaesthetics?
- Should I get one at all?
- *WHY* do I want one?
- Where do I find a good artist, and what should I look for in a
- tattoo artist?
- How to look around in the shop
- Asking to see their portfolio
- What to look for in their portfolio
- What kinds of questions to ask
- What sorts of things to look for in a shop
- R-E-S-P-E-C-T: What to ask from artists
- How much does it cost to get a tattoo?
- How should I act once I get in that chair?
- Where on my body should I get a tattoo?
-
-
-
-
- Under the Berne Convention, this document is Copyright (c) 1997 by Lani
- Teshima-Miller, all rights reserved. Permission is granted for it to be
- reproduced electronically on any system connected to the various
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- intact. Web sites are included. Individual copies may also be printed
- for personal use.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: GETTING A TATTOO
-
- DOES IT HURT?
-
- This is the first question in this FAQ because it's usually the first
- question that people ask. The answer is yes. Having needles pierce your
- skin *does* hurt. But what you *really* want to know is, "How MUCH does
- it hurt, and can I handle it?"
-
- It's not nearly as bad as what you might imagine. The pain comes from
- the cluster of needles on the tattooing machine piercing your skin very
- rapidly. This sensation, however, doesn't feel like the poking pain of
- an injection--it's more of a constant vibration. You will be amazed at
- how quickly your body releases endorphins, (pain killers), which dullens
- the pain significantly.
-
- The pain will also vary according to where on your body you get worked
- on. Skin right above bones (collarbone, anklebone, etc.) tend to be more
- painful than other areas. In addition, certain types of needles seem to
- hurt more than others. I personally think the needles used for outlining
- produce a sharper, more noticeable pain, while the needles used for
- shading seem to be much more like an electrical buzz (nearly painless).
-
- Remember, you are volunteering for the experience. The amount of pain
- will depend on your psychological attitude.
-
- NOTE: Do not drink alcohol or take illegal drugs for pain relief
- purposes prior to your tattoo sessions. Both aspirin and alcohol thin
- your blood and promote excessive bleeding. Aspirin also decreases the
- clotting of blood, which will slow down your healing as well. In
- addition, artists do not appreciate dealing with drunks and is illegal
- in many states.
-
- WHAT ABOUT ANAESTHETICS?
-
- Some people say that taking a couple of over-the-counter analgesics
- before tattooing can take the edge off the pain. Acetaminophen,
- commonly sold under the brand name 'Tylenol' is generally recommended,
- but not aspirin, ibuprofen, or other NSAIDs, as they tend to inhibit
- clotting. In short, you may find yourself bleeding like the
- proverbial stuck pig.
-
- There *are* actually topical anaesthetics available, even in the
- stick-up-its-butt U.S. For instance, Bactine contains some
- lidocaine, and it is possible to buy benzocaine preparations
- over the counter. The drawback of these is that they do not
- work on unbroken skin, but if they are applied after the first
- pass with the needle, they *can* make a tremendous difference.
-
- EMLA is reputed to be much better, and will work on unbroken
- skin, but it is not generally available in the U.S.
-
- SHOULD I GET A TATTOO IN THE FIRST PLACE?
-
- Your reading this may mean you're already interested in getting a
- tattoo, or may know someone who is. In a survey of 163 tattooed men and
- women, a third of them had regretted their tattoos! While most of this
- FAQ discusses the process once you've decided to get one, let's pause
- for a moment.
-
-
- *WHY* DO I WANT ONE?
-
- People get tattoos for different reasons. Is it to please your partner?
- Is it because you want to belong to a group that has tattoos? Do you
- identify with a certain subculture known for tattoos? Do you want to
- show your independence, individuality or uniqueness?
-
- These are all valid reasons, and why many people get tattooed. However,
- because of the permanency of your tattoo, try to look at yourself in
- five, 10, or even 20 years. What will you be doing at that time? You
- might be a free-spirited college student now, and a web of vines on your
- wrist would look really lovely. However, are you planning to work in a
- very conservative field after you graduate? Will others look at your
- tattoo in a bad way? Will you have to hide it with long sleeve shirts?
- Are you *willing* to wear long sleeve shirts if the environment is
- negative?
-
- Do you want a tattoo of a tiger because your partner's nickname is
- "Tiger," and you love the way s/he scratches your skin? Do you think
- you'll be with this person in five years? If not, how will you look at
- that tattoo? With fond memories, symbolizing a special period in your
- life? Or a shameful or painful reminder of somebody who hurt you and
- didn't care for you?
-
- You're a headbanger (or a nose-smasher, ear-bopper or whatever) and you
- *REALLY* want a tattoo all over your arms just like Axl Rose, but you
- can't afford a professional artist so you get your friend with the
- mail-order tattooing machine to do those designs for you? Or perhaps you
- get spider webs tattooed all over your hands (or your face, which has
- happened) because you want to be "different" in school. What if you
- decide to "straighten out" and get a real job; train as a chef or
- something, and then no restaurant hires you?
-
- *GETTING IT REMOVED* is *NOT* easy, and is *NOT* cheap. Expect to pay
- $1,000 to remove even a fairly small-sized tattoo if you're looking at
- laser surgery. Expect to have a noticeable ugly scar if you go with a
- non-laser technique. Expect to pay for every penny out of your own
- pocket because health insurance companies will not pay for tattoo
- removal. There may not be a laser surgery specialist in your area. Then
- think of all those laser-surgery doctors who are going to get rich off
- of a person's foolishness or lack of careful thinking.
-
- ...Maybe tattooing isn't for you.
-
- ...Maybe you shouldn't get that $10 tattoo your friend's been telling
- you he'll give you, in his garage.
-
- ...Maybe you shouldn't let your buddies tattoo your hand with India Ink
- and a needle at this weekend's party.
-
- ...Maybe you should get a tattoo on your back instead of on your hand.
-
- ...Maybe you should get a tattoo on your left wrist so it can be covered
- by your watch if you have to...
-
- ...And maybe after reading this FAQ and reading RAB, you'll think
- carefully about it, and make some informed, wise decisions about what to
- do with your body.
-
- *Tattooing can be beautiful.*
-
- *Tattooing can be exhilarating.*
-
- *Tattooing can open a whole new world for you.*
-
- ...but make sure to do it *RIGHT*.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: RELIGIOUS (CHRISTIAN) ARGUMENTS
-
- Written by: Chris Wayne (cwayne@unm.edu), originator of RAB and a
- self-professed Christian.
-
- A word to the religious: In Leviticus 19:28, it says not to tattoo "I am
- the Lord" on you (i.e. don't take the name of the Lord in vain). It does
- NOT say you can't mark yourself at all, and it does NOT say there's
- anything wrong about piercing. What it DOES say is that it prohibits
- mutilating yourself for the dead, which was a senseless practice at that
- time. But for Christians, they are no longer bound by the Law. Remember
- that it's not what you do; it's what's in your heart when you do it. The
- Talmud even mentions that it's not the tattooing that is wrong, but what
- the tattoo is of (i.e. if the tattoo is an image of a 'false god' as
- opposed to just a 'design').
-
- There are probably many 'prim & proper' Christians out there that have
- had the urge to be tattooed, but have repressed it because they believed
- it was a sin. Well, if you really believe that it is a sin, then it is.
- But is getting tattooed really a sin? If it draws you away from Christ
- or causes someone else to stumble, then yes. But tattooing isn't any
- more special than anything else we distract ourselves with.
-
- Take things in moderation at your speed. We are to deny ourselves of
- things if they cause us to lose sight of Jesus (for some, it could be
- driving a car, getting married, having children, going to work, smoking,
- abusing drugs & alcohol, disrespect, etc.). If you have good
- discernment, you know what distracts you from Christ and what doesn't.
-
- Tattooing isn't inherently evil; it got it's 'evil' status because
- GOD-less heathens from places like the South Pacific were tattooed. Do
- what pleases GOD; and one thing that pleases GOD is to be confident in
- oneself (not overly prideful, but confidence tempered with discernment,
- almost bordering on arrogance). Tattooing can bring out that confidence,
- because to be tattooed requires commitment. And that's a conquering
- power over fear and old ruts. GOD wants mature dynamic individuals that
- fear him to fellowship with, not people cowering in fear from some rigid
- set of laws. Note: fear of GOD is totally different from cowering in
- fear.
-
- Some Christians will claim that drinking any amount of alcohol is
- sinful, but the medical community is saying that 2-3 drinks a day is
- good for the heart. Drink responsibly. So, for those that have repressed
- getting a tattoo because of family or religious upbringing, just do it.
- If it's not for you, fine--but don't ruin it for the others.
-
- Tattooing in no way marks who's saved and who's not. If you've seen the
- trilogy "A Distant Thunder," the Mark of the Beast was tattooed on your
- right hand or forehead. The tattoo was 666 in binary '6's (i.e. 1 0 11 0
- 11 0 1 Sort of like a UPC code), but this doesn't mean that every tattoo
- is a Mark of the Beast.
-
- People have stated that the credit card and the computer were tools of
- the Devil. So what? Everybody depends on both today, even if the
- Anti-Christ is to use the computer to control the population, it doesn't
- mean that if you use a computer, you're a follower of the Devil.
-
- I believe that religion, when improperly used, is a dangerous thing.
- Christianity has wasted a lot of valuable time trying to influence
- people in believing that unimportant things are evil instead of
- spreading the word of GOD. Christianity (or those prideful, arrogant,
- self righteous leaders) has looked down on tattooing far too long.
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: A TEMPORARY ALTERNATIVE?
-
- A) For those who might not be ready for the plunge, but are seriously
- considering what it would look/feel like to have a tattoo, Julian
- (an54349@anon.penet.fi) recommends a particular type of temporary
- tattoo that uses very light Japanese rice paper. He says these are of
- very high quality, and last about two weeks WITH CARE. I have had the
- phone number confirmed recently so they are still in business. Note:
- This will the only time I'll discuss *temporary* tattoos. :)
- Don Ling's Removable Tattoos & Fantoos, 507/956-2024
- P.O.Box 309 Butterfield, MN 56120
- or 102 2nd ST. South Butterfield, MN 56120
-
- Temptu now has a web page at http://www.temptu.com which describes
- their products. The following is from Roy at Temptu:
-
- "The rice paper temporary tattoo you...mention is made in New York by
- Temptu studios. It is a cosmetic ink printed on an archival
- cigarette-like tissue paper. Special cosmetic inks are then used to
- paint in the 'tattoo.' The result is totally realistic, waterproof,
- and longlasting (yep, up to 2 weeks!)
-
- "This process was used in _Cape Fear_ on Robert de Niro, _Once Were
- Warriors_, and currently on Sean Penn at the end of _Dead Man
- Walking_. Also see Bruce Willis' Head in _The 12 Monkeys_. It was
- invented by Dr. S. Zuckerman for the film _Tattoo_ (Bruce Dern/Maude
- Adams in 1981.
-
- "Often we are asked to create at temporary tattoo for someone who wants
- to 'test drive a tattoo,' so they can decide on position, color,
- before deciding what and where.
-
- "Temptu primarily develops semi-permanent body art. Current interests
- include working on a 'safe' and legal line of tattoo inks, airbrush
- body art, and Indian Mehandi (henna). I work closely with the New York
- Body Archive, a strange and wonderful place!"
-
- Roy adds one of comment: "I'm frequently asked about the six-month
- tattoo you mention in FAQ. East Coast people say it's available in
- California. But this is bullsh*t. No such animal!"
-
- B) For some, the easiest thing to do is to simply draw on the skin with
- a non-toxic marker. In fact, many people who already have tattoos do
- this to figure out placement and design. If you want it to wash off
- right away, use something temporary. Crayola's washable markers work
- well. I you wanna see if you can live with a design for a couple of
- days, try a permanent marker such as the Sharpies. They come in basic
- colors.
-
- C) MEHENDI: In some countries such as India, brides are covered from head to
- toe with intricate bridalwear (including the face). To try to show off as
- much of what skin they can show, they paint their hands and forearms
- with something called henna. Henna, when applied correctly, stains
- the skin and can last several weeks. Mehendi has become popular with
- the mainstream, with a number of mehendi tattoo shops cropping up in some
- cities such as Berkeley and Los Angeles.
-
- Part of the process of getting a tattoo is coming to terms with its
- permanency. It's like losing your virginity. You lose it once, and you
- can't get it back. You can neck and make out, but it's not intercourse.
- If you're afraid of losing your virginity, you have to come to terms
- with THAT before you can have sex.
-
- But once you lose your virginity, you forget all about how you feared
- its loss, and simply enjoy having sex! :)
-
- *Debunking of urban folklore*
- Someone asked to confirm a rumour about the possibility of temporary
- tattoos obtainable by using a tattooing machine very shallowly on the
- skin, to have the tattoo last only six months or so.
-
- Several professional tattoo artists replied with a very strong *NO*.
- There is no way to be able to prevent the needles from entering the
- second layer of skin (the dermis), where tattoo inks normally go.
- Further, even if the tattoo machine only enters the top layer of skin
- (the epidermis), you will end up with too much scarring that the tattoo
- will never really go away.
-
- Considering the time, cost and pain factors, this is not an option--and
- no professional tattoo artist will want to experiment on you.
-
- A proprietor posted on RAB about a "new! discovery!" of a temporary
- tattoo that was removable after a couple of years. All efforts by
- various reviewers and professionals to confirm the validity of this
- product have been unsuccessful--this product, whatever it is being
- touted as, is *not* endorsable.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Subject: THE DECISION PROCESS--MAKING THE BIG PLUNGE: WHERE CAN I FIND
- A GOOD ARTIST, AND WHAT SHOULD I LOOK FOR IN A TATTOO ARTIST?
-
- The bane of the tattoo world is the shadowy, unprofessional person
- called the "scratcher." A scratcher is somebody who:
- --Does not have the proper training in either tattoo art or of running
- a professional operation;
- --Does not know and/or care to use responsible sterilization methods;
- --Promises to provide tattooing services for an incredibly low fee, for
- free, or in exchange for drugs (ack!);
- --Chooses not to apprentice through a legitimate tattoo shop because of
- one excuse or another (but lacks the knowledge one needs to work in or
- run a professional shop);
- --Will hurt you because they don't know what they're doing;
- --Will give you a permanent tattoo you will regret for the rest of your
- life;
- --You should stay away with a ten-foot pole.
-
- Never, never, never get work from a scratcher unless you are willing to
- accept all the hazards listed above.
-
- Of those in a study by Clinton Sanders who regretted their tattoos, more
- than two-thirds of them regretted their tattoo because of poor quality!
-
- Looking for an artist can be as easy as checking the Yellow Pages, or as
- complex as checking references, magazine photos, and reading RAB. There
- are a number of ways to find good artists, including (but certainly not
- limited to):
-
- --Perusing tattoo magazines. While not all tattoo magazines are of the
- National Geographic quality, the photos will speak for themselves. Some
- issues highlight specific artists' works; a good way see the type of
- work someone does. Use the photos in the magazines to compare with those
- of the artist you are interested in. These magazines have done a lot to
- show what is *possible*.
-
- Some things to look for in magazines:
- -Style (realistic, black & grey work, tribal, etc.)
- -Placement on your body
- -Ideas for images
- -Size in proportion to your body
- -Artists whose work you like.
-
- --Reading RAB and this FAQ. It'll give you a base in which to start. If
- you live in an area where an artist is not listed in the FAQ, you might
- want to post a query. If you saw an artist whose work you liked in a
- magazine, see if they're listed in the FAQ. If not, post a query.
- Remember--the artist list FAQ is limited because we only take first-hand
- recommendations from people who read RAB There are many artists who are
- excellent, who have not worked on RAB participants.
-
- --Attending a tattoo convention. Read the FAQ section on tattoo
- conventions for more information.
-
- You can approach this one of two ways. You can either go to a shop
- because someone recommended the artist to you, or you can go in cold.
- For obvious reasons, you will have a little more information with you if
- you already know something about the artist. This may make you feel more
- at ease when going into a shop for the first time.
-
- Many of the top-notch artists recommended in this FAQ are very busy and
- work on an appointment-only basis. Visit their shop anyway--you will
- still learn about them even if it doesn't mean getting work done right
- then and there.
-
- Bodyart enthusiast Dr. Kai Kristensen <tattoodoc@jps.net>, a pathologist
- and a recently retired lab director of an internationally prestigious
- medical center in La Jolla (California), says the most important aspects
- of a good result are to:
- o Choose an experienced, knowledgeable performer who knows about
- sterilization and avoidance of infection.
- o Avoid infection during the healing process.
-
- With both of those bases covered, healing of either should be
- non-eventful and the desired appearance should be guaranteed.
-
-
- WHAT KIND OF DESIGN SHOULD I GET?
-
- What images do you think of when you think of a tattoo? Do you think of
- anchors, of roses or of skulls? While these traditional images are still
- available, you will be pleasantly surprised at the variety you will find
- today.
-
- There are two basic types of tattoos: Flash, and custom. As you can
- imagine, "custom" means you have a design you like that you take in with
- you. "Flash" is the stock designs you see on the walls of the shop.
-
- The main thing to remember is that you're not required to choose from
- the selection of flash in a shop--You're NOT limited to just an anchor,
- a rose or a skull. Remember however, that these smaller pieces of
- pre-priced flash are the bread & butter of many shops, since they are
- proportionately expensive ($75 for 20 minutes' work, for example where
- an artist might charge $100 an hour for custom work). Also, the number
- of customers who lay out the big bucks for large, elaborate custom
- pieces is too small to keep a regular shop in business.
-
- A few of the major styles of tattooing:
- BIO-MECHANICAL: A style popularized by illustrator H.R. Giger, who
- designed the creature from the _Alien_ movies. Bio-mechanical work
- usually involves an anatomical flesh intertwined with some technical
- drawings of machines. A close relative of this style involves just the
- biological look of flesh without the mechanical parts.
- BLACK & GREY: Refers to the colors used, this style requires the artist
- to have advanced shading techniques for subtlety.
- Celtic: Beautiful, intricate knotwork of the Celts (a hard "k", NOT a
- soft "c" like the basketball team). These are much harder for artists
- to do, and is best done by someone who specializes in it. Also usually
- done in just black ink.
- Oriental: Big, bold pieces of Oriental images (carp, clouds, dragons,
- etc.) based on the Ukiyo-e woodblock prints of 18th Century Edo-period
- Japan. Note: It is fine to call this "Oriental" and not "Asian,"
- because it references an object and not a person.
- PORTRAIT: Images taken from photos, best done by someone who can render
- realistic photographic images. Usually done in black and grey ink.
- Sailor Jerry: Traditional sailor tattoo style made famous by Jerry
- Collins in Honolulu.
- Tribal: Usually bold simple lines, simple patterns. Almost always done
- with just black ink.
-
- With a good artist working for you, you can get practically any image
- you'd like. Accomplished artists can render portraits, wildlife,
- psychedelic and biomechanical styles with impressive results. Your main
- challenge is to find the artist who can best do the design YOU want.
-
-
- WHAT KIND OF COLORS CAN I GET?
-
- Concerned that you'll end up with a greenish tattoo with little bits of
- red or yellow? Worry no more! Today's inks run the entire gamut--and it
- would not be terribly sarcastic to take a Pantone color chart with you!
-
- Most tattoo inks are metal salt-based pigments that are not made
- specifically to be used under the skin, and have not been approved by
- the FDA for this purpose. The idea is that for most people, these
- pigments are inert and cause no problems. Some people have been known to
- have allergic reactions; any reputable artist should be willing to
- provide you with a small "patch test" of the colors you desire. This is
- required in the state of Arkansas.
-
- Tattooist Uncle Bud Yates (Pikes Peak Tattooing) says some artists use
- acrylic-based pigments, which he feels may be more troublesome than the
- metal-based pigments for some with sensitive skin. Best to ask your
- artist first.
-
-
- HOW TO LOOK AROUND IN THE SHOP
-
- Don't let the shop intimidate you when you first walk in. For the
- uninked, a tattoo shop is intimidating enough. Strange smells, strange
- sounds. Some shops even try to look intimidating to create a tough-guy
- feel. Just keep in mind that you're a potential customer. Consider it
- window shopping.
-
- The first thing you should do is to take a minute to look around.
- Chances are, you'll encounter some flash (stock illustrations) stapled
- on the walls. These will most likely lean toward the traditional. Skull
- and crossbones, roses and the like.
-
- You might also see some signs ("No minors; we ID," "We have sanitary
- conditions" etc.). These signs will also be indicators of the
- personality of the shop owner. If the signs seem overly intimidating,
- patronizing or snobbish, they can be tip-offs of the shop's attitude.
- Some are very friendly, with plants, aquarium fish, and signs like
- "Tattooed people come in all colors."
-
- Note: There is no national law regarding the legal age for tattooing.
- Check with the shop to find out what the local statute regulates.
-
-
- ASKING TO SEE THEIR PORTFOLIO
-
- Do NOT be impressed by the flash on the wall. These illustrations are
- usually purchased from other artists and do not represent the work of
- your artist. Frankly, anyone with some experience can easily trace the
- outlines of these illustrations and fill in the colors. What you really
- need to look at is a book that contains a collection of photos of the
- artist's work. Go to the counter and ask to see one. If they tell you
- they don't have one, walk out immediately. You're visiting the shop to
- commission a piece of art to be permanently illustrated on your skin;
- for the artist to tell you s/he doesn't have samples in a portfolio is
- insulting.
-
-
- WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN THEIR PORTFOLIO
-
- When you do look in their portfolio, there are a few things to keep in
- mind. Do you see any photos of pieces that you recognize in the flash
- (on the wall, or in a flash book)? If so, how is it rendered in tattoo
- format? Before anything else, check to see that the lines are clean. Are
- they well-defined? Straight where they should be; not shaky or blurry?
- Are the borders all uniform in width? Do the colors seem true? Are they
- bright? Proportionately correct?
-
- Look at the people in the book. This can be an indicator of the
- clientele in the shop (besides looking at the ambiance of the shop). Is
- there a fair mix of women and men in the book? Are they all sporting
- "biker" tats, or any one particular genre/style?
-
- Again, keep in mind that anyone can stencil an outline of an
- illustration onto your skin. The skill in the artistry comes in the
- shading, use of colors and other subtle things that set an artist apart
- from a simple tattooist.
-
- Do you see anything in the portfolio that is not in the flash? These are
- the custom pieces that the artists have done, and they should be their
- crowning glory. How do they look? Do you like what you see? If there is
- more than one artist working in the shop, and you see some photos you
- like, make sure to find out which artist did the work.
-
-
- WHAT KINDS OF QUESTIONS TO ASK
-
- Whenever you ask to see their collection of photos, the person in the
- shop will hopefully immediately recognize you as someone who knows a
- little more about tattoos--at least enough not to be satisfied by
- looking at just the flash. If the shop is not too busy or if the artist
- is not in the middle of working, they might stand on the other side of
- the counter to have a conversation with you. This is a wonderful
- opportunity to ask questions of the artist.
-
- Some reasonable questions to ask in your conversation that shouldn't
- take too much time for the artist to answer:
-
- What is their favorite style?
- If what *you* are looking to get done happens to be their specialty you
- are in luck; be it tribal, wildlife or whatever.
-
- Is there any one particular subject they like to do?
- One artist, without hesitation, told me his favorite was skulls. I
- would've jumped for joy had that been what I wanted.
-
- How long has the shop been here?
- This may be an indicator of the stability of their business. The tat
- industry in itself fluctuates, but continuity implies business acumen,
- responsible practices and that they are not a fly-by-night operation.
-
- How long have they been at the shop?
- The shop may have been there for 20 years, but the artist may only have
- been there for a couple of months. If they have been there for what you
- consider a short period, ask them where they were before.
-
- How long have they been tattooing?
- It might not matter so much that the artist has only been there for a
- short while, if they've been tattooing for several years. They might
- come from various backgrounds--anywhere from working on friends to
- having a fine arts degree. This type of information will give you more
- insight into the artist's attitude as well as aptitude.
-
- Do they get to do much custom work?
- This may depend on where the shop is located, but it also depends on
- how good of an artist they are, and whether they have their own style
- for which they are known for.
-
- Do they use apprentices at the shop?
- It is often difficult for new artists to break into the business, and
- an apprenticeship is often a very good way to learn not only about
- tattooing itself, but also about the day-to-day operation of a small
- business. For artists to take apprenticeships means they're interested
- in expanding the artform, in giving a new person a break (so to speak)
- and feeling confident enough about their own skills that they feel they
- can offer some insight and experience for the new person. This again
- goes back to the attitude of the artist and the shop.
-
- Don't let the looks of the artist intimidate you. Tattoo artists usually
- have a lot of tattoos themselves. In fact, I would be somewhat leery of
- an artist who has *NO* tattoos at all. The main thing is that you need
- to talk with them and get a feel for what they are like. As you talk
- with the artist and build a rapport, if you feel comfortable you may
- want to broach the subject of what you're interested in getting done.
- Bounce your idea off with the artist and see what they are willing to
- help you with.
-
- Remember however, that the artist is running a professional business! Be
- polite--don't linger and overspend your welcome if you don't plan on
- getting any work done at all.
-
- [Note: Don't base your decision according to what tattoos you see on the
- artist--they were not done by that person!]
-
- ANOTHER CONSIDERATION
-
- If the design you choose contains *any* text at all, be sure to
- proofread it and agree on it beforehand. If not, you might end up
- like the gentleman in this story:
-
- http://www.injersey.com/news/app/story/0,2110,208595,00.html
-
- His tattoo ended up with a word misspelled. Definitely not the sort
- of thing that one wants to wear for life.
-
- WHAT SORTS OF THINGS TO LOOK FOR IN A SHOP
-
- Looking critically at the shop is as important as choosing your artist.
- Make sure the place is very clean, make sure the artist uses disposable,
- single-use needles (that are not re-used after one client), and uses an
- autoclave for all other equipment. Don't be afraid to ask them, either.
- A legitimate artist will be glad to show you.
-
- What does the shop look like? What is its ambiance? Does it look like a
- barber shop, a hair salon, dental office or an art gallery? If you are a
- nonsmoker, will cigarette smoke bother you? Look for used ashtrays as
- signs. Do the work areas offer you any privacy? Do they use shower
- curtains, private booths or shoulder-high room dividers?
-
- Try to go and visit and then come back another day. Don't feel pressured
- into having to get one right then and there. Try and talk to some people
- that have experience with the artist (and not the groupies that you'll
- find hanging around the shop). You should feel comfortable with the
- artist and you should like him/her. If you don't, then don't get a
- tattoo.
-
- Make sure the artist is willing to listen to you and respects what you
- want. Don't go to an artist that has an agenda of what he/she wants to
- do. The artist may make suggestions, but the final word is always yours.
-
- Finally, make sure you take their business card with you. If the artist
- you talk to does not have his/her own card, jot down the name on the
- back, and perhaps some notes to yourself about the shop and the artist.
-
-
- R-E-S-P-E-C-T: WHAT TO ASK FROM ARTISTS?
-
- It has been brought to my attention that some tattooists have an
- attitude problem when it comes to potential customers. Tattooists (and
- piercers!) need to realize that not every person who walks in has to
- look like a grunged-out leather-wearing biker, or a raven-haired
- cleopatra-eyed septum-pierced zombie. People from all walks of life may
- be interested in bodyart.
-
- A potential customer should *NOT* be made to feel out-of-place or
- ashamed for walking in wearing a business suit, or an LL Bean dress. It
- is amazing to think that someone with purple hair and eyebrow rings
- could actually discriminate against someone, but apparently, this seems
- to be happening.
-
- Just as a customer should expect certain sanitation standards, they
- should also expect an inviting atmosphere.
-
-
- RE TATTOO SHOPS INSURED?
-
- Most reputable tattoo shops are insured. The problem is, they're usually
- insured against premises liability. This means that they have insurance
- coverage if you fall and hit your head on their floor, but *NOT* if
- you're unhappy with their work. In the past, the only insurer who would
- cover the latter was Lloyd's of London, and their rates were apparently
- very high.
-
- This has changed recently, with the availability of a comprehensive
- insurance package available from one agent based on the West Coast. Many
- shops do have some form of insurance (this may be a requirement in their
- rental lease). Just keep in mind that the insurance does not necessarily
- cover QUALITY.
-
- HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO GET A TATTOO?
-
- This is an age-old debate, so the following is just a very basic
- ballpark. You usually pay for work either by the piece, or by the hour.
- The smaller pieces in the artist's flash book are "standard stock"
- material that usually don't take the artist too long to do. For these,
- you might find prices listed right next to the artwork. The artist may
- have a "minimum" charge that might vary with each artist.
-
- Larger (or custom) pieces will usually be charged by the hour (unless
- you and the artist decide beforehand on the total price). If you get a
- "stock" piece (probably about 2" x 2" in size), you will probably not
- pay more than $100 and sit no longer than an hour in the chair. Your
- mileage may vary.
-
- If you bring your own design, the artist may charge anywhere from $50 to
- a few hundred dollars an hour, depending on the artist. However, you may
- want to work with someone who charges $100 or so an hour; after all, you
- DO get what you pay for. Also, some artists charge for illustration time
- prior to beginning tattoo work. If they do, this might increase your
- price by an extra hour. If they tell you that your piece will be charged
- by the hour, ask them how many hours they think it'll take. If you are
- on a limited budget, tell them how much you can afford.
-
- Price negotiation should be up front and straightforward, a part of your
- initial discussion before work begins. Some shops take credit cards;
- most don't. Out-of-towners may be asked to put down a deposit. Be
- particularly wary of people willing to work "for cheap" or "for free."
- They are often artists just starting out, who are still developing their
- skills. Caveat emptor.
-
- Warning: Once the artist quotes you a price, *DON'T DICKER WITH IT!* The
- best way to get on the artist's bad side is to try to bargain with the
- price. If you think the price is too high, renegotiate the scope of the
- artwork--NOT the price. I usually do it this way: "Hi, I have X amount I
- can spend on this design. What can we work out for that price?"
-
- If you are very pleased with their work and service, you are strongly
- encouraged to tip the artist, even if they own the shop. Even shop
- owners don't pocket 100% of what they make (remember--it's a business!).
- Tips can range from 10% to 20% of the piece, so be prepared with cash on
- hand.
-
- I personally recommend a tip for any work which you are pleased with, or
- any custom work where the artist spent time drawing up your illustration
- (since drawing time is usually not included in your price). Nothing
- brightens up a day for the artist, or helps to build a friendly
- relationship with your artist more than a generous tip. If you're very
- happy with the artist and you think you might get more work from them
- later, TIP!!
-
- There have been heated discussions on rec.arts.bodyart in the past
- regarding the appropriateness of tipping a shop OWNER. If you feel that
- an owner does not deserve a tip on top of the price s/he charges you,
- then A) do not give a tip at all, or B) bring some sort of offering, be
- it food, flowers or whatever.
-
- Many tattoo artists have told me that the BEST TIP is good word of
- mouth. If you are happy with your tattoo, show it off to your friends
- and tell them where you got it done!
-
-
- HOW SHOULD I ACT WHEN I GET IN THAT CHAIR?
-
- Once you have settled on a design and a price that you and your artist
- agree on, the work will either begin right then, or you will be asked to
- come back for a later appointment (e.g. if the artist has another client
- coming in in 15 minutes).
-
- Once you're in that chair, what can you expect? Most likely, the artist
- will begin the long process of preparing for your work. This is
- especially true if the artist is going to do a custom design that you
- brought in. First, the design will have to be worked on. Most artists
- will play around with the design on paper first, although some artists
- will do it freehand. "Freehand" means the artist takes an ink pen to
- hand and begins drawing a design on your skin without the use of a
- stencil (NOT where the artist begins work with the tattooing machine
- immediately--the artist, no matter how good, still needs to envision how
- the work will look on your skin--proportion, placement, etc.).
-
- When you and the artist are happy with the design, the artist might
- outline the design with a piece of carbon paper, or use an old-fashioned
- copy machine to get a working copy of it. This would be when the artist
- would properly size the design. The artist will then clean your skin
- where the work will be done (probably an alcohol or antiseptic rub), and
- will swipe your skin with an "adhesive," which is usually Speed Stick
- deodorant (for some reason *I* haven't seen any other brands). The
- artist will then put the carbon side of the design directly on your
- skin. When the paper is lifted, ta-da! A carbon line drawing of the
- design should appear on your skin!
-
- The artist will probably let you look in a mirror to make sure you are
- happy with the design and the placement. Once this is agreed upon, the
- artist will then begin putting the supplies out.
-
- At this point, your artist should be doing things like dispensing
- various colors of ink into little disposable wells, and rigging a new
- set of needles into the tattoo machine. At this time, you will probably
- try to look cool by looking around the studio walls or occasionally
- looking to see what your artist is doing. Your artist might have a radio
- playing, which will help distract you a little.
-
- At this point, it is best for you to try and relax. You can ask the
- artists about some things, like the colors of the ink. Depending on the
- work you are getting, the artist will need to mix some colors, for
- example. You're probably somewhat nervous, but excited at the same time
- because you're actually gonna get a real tattoo! Whether you realize it
- or not, your body is going through quite an adrenalin rush. Try to
- remain calm and not too anxious. Your hyped-up condition and your
- anxiety about the anticipated pain of your experience by themselves may
- trigger a fainting spell. It will help if you are not there on an empty
- stomach. Get a bite to eat about an hour or two before you go in for
- your session. Having hard candy or some juice on hand during the session
- is also recommended.
-
- Just relax and try to stay calm. For women, the experience of anxious
- anticipation is similar to a pelvic exam at an OB/GYN, where you are
- more nervous about it while waiting for the doctor as you lie prone on
- the examining table, feet in the stirrups. Just as most exams aren't
- painful or really all that bad, neither is tattooing.
-
- Bzzzzzttttt....The artist starts up the machine, dips the needle into
- the ink and starts to work toward your skin! Aaaaaahhhhh!!! Will it
- hurt? Will it hurt? Grit your teeth! Hang tight!...
-
- Ooohhhhhhh! It *does* hurt! Ow! Ow! Ow! I'm okay, I'm okay, this is
- fine, it's not that bad. I can grit my teeth. Grit, grit, grit. Try to
- smile a bit. My teeth are gritting, anyway. Oh, I hope this pain doesn't
- stay like this!! Breathe. Don't forget to breathe. Relax. Relax. Relax.
- Okay there, that's better. Not so painful. I can handle it. Yeah--look
- at all the tattoos HE's got on his arms. I can handle it, too. Yeah.
-
- ...The most painful part of the process will pass in a couple of
- minutes, after which the area will feel abuzz with electricity and
- warmth. Just try to relax and breathe deeply--enjoy the one-of-a-kind
- experience that you're feeling. Oftentimes, you end up clenching your
- jaws, grinding your teeth or grasping the chair with your white-knuckled
- hands. But once you pass the first couple of minutes, you'll feel silly
- for having worried about it so much. If you still feel uncomfortable
- after a few minutes, it may be because you're sitting in an
- uncomfortable position. See if you can get into a more comfortable,
- reclining position--but make sure to ask the artist first before you try
- to move.
-
- Some people try to distract themselves by trying to talk with the
- artist. This is kind of like with hair stylists--some stylists just love
- to gab and gab (just ask them an open-ended question), while some
- stylists would rather concentrate and not screw up your hairdo. Same
- with tattoo artists. While some will like to "talk story" with you,
- others would rather concentrate on the work you're paying them to do.
- After all, their job, income, and reputation are on the line when they
- have the tattooing machine to your skin. Often, they'll talk during easy
- parts, and less during complex work. Just go with the flow and not worry
- about it.
-
- The only thing I don't particularly prefer is if there's a lot of
- traffic walking around in the studio and the artist has to keep talking
- to them (either potential clients or tattoo groupies). For this reason,
- a cubicle or dividing partition is a nice option for privacy.
-
- Most people can sit through over an hour of work, but if you get
- uncomfortable, just ask your artist if you can take a break. If you feel
- woozy, you might consider bringing some candy with you to give you a
- little lift, or some water to drink.
-
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-
- Subject: WHERE ON MY BODY SHOULD I GET A TATTOO?
-
- This may seem VERY trivial, since the answer can be "anywhere you
- please!" The ONLY places you cannot technically get permanent tattoos
- are your hair, teeth and nails (even the cornea used to be tattooed
- years ago for medical purposes). Interestingly, women and men tend to
- get tattoos in different locations. This, according to sociologist
- Clinton Sanders, is because men and women get tattoos for different
- reasons. Men, he says, get them to show others, while women get them for
- the sake of decorating their body--and often place them where they can't
- normally be seen, so that it doesn't prompt comments about her
- "reputation." However for the sake of this FAQ, the following is a short
- list of areas to get inked. I am included the statistics from Clinton
- Sanders' study on the body location of the first tattoo for men and
- women as well (there were 111 men in his survey group and 52 women).
-
- Head: The "head" here refers mostly to the area where your hair grows.
- You'll need to shave the area for the tat to be most visible. If you
- need to hide your tat, you can grow your hair out. Areas more commonly
- inked are the sides of the head (above the ears), and above the nape of
- the neck in the back. There are people who have their entire heads
- inked. I am told that the tattooing process vibrates your skull!
-
- Sides of neck (nape).
-
- Back of neck: I've seen some tribal pieces, and bats done on the back of
- the neck. You'll need to keep your hair short or tied up to keep it
- visible.
-
- Face: Various areas possible. Facial tattoos could fall into the
- cosmetic or standard categories. Cosmetic would include darkening of
- eyebrows, eyelining, liplining, etc. Getting a tat on the face is
- serious business and crosses a portal because people will never look
- at you the same way.
-
- Upper chest: One of the standard areas for tattoos for both men and
- women. Allows lots of flat area in which to get a fairly large piece.
- One of the areas where you can choose to get symmetrically inked on
- both sides. (Men: 5%, women: 35%--chest & breast combined)
-
- Breasts (women): Used to be trendy to get a tiny tat on the breast.
- Women (particularly larger breasted ones) need to be careful about
- eventual sagging of the skin in the area. Don't get a tat that will
- look silly when it starts to stretch (like a round smiley face that'll
- turn into an oblong frown).
-
- Nipples: Usually the artist leaves the nipples alone--the omission of
- ink tends not to be so noticeable. There HAS been work done with
- tattooing a facsimile of a nipple onto a breast in reconstructive
- surgery for those who have lost their nipples, tho--for aesthetic and
- self-esteem purposes.
-
- Rib cage: Can be rather painful because of all the ribs you work over.
- However it offers a fairly large area, and can be incorporated into a
- major back piece, wrapping around toward the front.
-
- Stomach/Abdomen: Some people choose not to get work done on their
- stomachs for a couple of reasons. Area is difficult to work on because
- there's no solid backing to hold the skin down. It is a sensitive area
- that may feel uncomfortable. The tat may look horrible after your
- metabolism slows down and you develop a - er-- "beer gut." (Men: Less
- than 5%, women: 14% Women concerned about the effect of pregnancy on a
- stomach tattoo can read the section specifically devoted to this in the
- Tattoo FAQ section 7.
-
- Genitals: Yes, some people do get inked in their genital area. The
- idea may sound very painful, but it's really not all that bad.
- However, do consider that, due the to the stretchiness of the
- skin and the amount of movement the area experiences, it's not
- really possible to do anything with a lot of fine detail. And
- no, the penis does not have to be erect during tattooing, although
- a tattoo artist I know who has done several penis tattoos said that
- he did have one customer who had a full erection the whole time. The
- only female genital tattoo I've seen (inner labia, I think) was in
- _Modern Primitives_, and it looked rather blurry. Note: Some artists
- refuse to do genitals. (Men: 0%; women: 5 %)
-
- Thighs/hips: A popular area for women to get larger pieces (often
- extending from the hip area). Shows well with a bathing suit but easily
- concealable in modest shorts. The entire area of skin around your
- thighs is bigger than your back, so you can get quite a bit of work
- done. (Men: 3%; women: 10%)
-
- Calves: Nice area to get a standard size (2" x 2"). However if you have
- very hairy legs, it may cut down on the visibility somewhat. (Men: 7%;
- women: 8%. Category simply listed as leg/foot)
-
- Ankles: Currently trendy. I think you have to have an ankle tat before
- you can go to the Eileen Ford Agency with your modeling portfolio. :)
- You can either get a spot piece on the inner or outer ankle, or get
- something that goes around in a band. Vines and other vegetation seem
- popular (pumpkins, anyone?)
-
- Feet: I've seen some incredible footwork (pun intended) in some of the
- tat magazines. Concealable with shoes. Probably don't have as much wear
- and tear as hands so you might get less blurring and color loss. This
- however, is the TOPS of your feet. You will have trouble retaining a
- tattoo on the bottom of your feet.
-
- Armpits: Usually reserved for those who want to get full coverage around
- the arm and chest area, & need the armpits filled. Probably not
- strongly recommended for the highly ticklish.
-
- Upper arms: One of the most common areas for men, although I have seen
- some nice work on women as well. If you decide to get a piece done on
- your upper arm, consider how much sun it's going to get. Will you be
- able to put sunblock on it regularly? Otherwise, expect some color loss
- and blurring. If you want some serious work done and you wanna show it
- off, you may want to consider getting a "half sleeve"--full tat
- coverage throughout your upper arm. (Men: 70%; women: 18%. Category
- simply states arm/hand)
-
- Inner arms: A more unusual location than the outer upper arm area, this
- area is often not easily visible. Be careful if your genes are prone to
- "bat wing" flab, however.
-
- Forearms: Popeye sported his anchor on his forearm. Probably not as
- popular as the upper arm but common just the same. You can have your
- upper arm "sleeve" extend down for a full sleeve. For an example, check
- out the heavy metal veejay on MTV (who has a nose pierce, BTW).
-
- Wrists: Janis Joplin had a dainty tat on her wrist...easily concealable
- with a watch.
-
- Hands (fingers and palms): RAB receives frequent queries about fingers,
- palms and hands in general. Some artists don't do hands because the ink
- will have a tendency to blur or fade easily. Consider that you probably
- move your hands the most out of your entire body. A friend of mine had
- a multi-colored tat on his finger by Ed Hardy (who cringed upon hearing
- about where my friend wanted it), that is only several years old and is
- now barely noticeable. Some people want to substitute their wedding
- bands with tat bands. Your palm doesn't retain ink well--if you can
- find an artist who will do it, you can expect it to be a rather basic
- line, and that it will not last too long. Perhaps just matching tats
- someplace else would be okay? There *IS* a photo of a tattoo on a palm
- in Sandi Feldman's book on Japanese tattooing. This seems to be an
- exception.
-
- Shoulder blades: The back shoulder blade area is another popular spot
- for women, who can show off the work with a bathing suit or tank top,
- but cover it up with regular clothes. If this is the case, be
- particularly careful with sun because you're not gonna be wearing that
- unless it's warm & sunny. It's a "safe" place--but may get in the way
- if you decide to commit yourself to a large back piece. (Men: 15%,
- women: 15%. Category listed as backs/shoulder)
-
- Back: You can get any part of your back done, or find yourself an artist
- you really like, and save your money for a "back piece" that
- encompasses your entire back. Expect to pay several thousand dollars
- for a full back piece (not to mention many tat sessions).
-
- --Buttocks: Again, beware of potential sagging in the area.
-
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- This ends "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 2/9--Getting a tattoo." This
- should be followed by "rec.arts.bodyart: Tattoo FAQ 3/9--Sanitation."
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