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- Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about bisexuality
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- The soc.bi FAQ list
- ===================
- soc.bi : for the discussion of any issues related to bisexuality
-
- (but NOT for commercial or personal ads!)
-
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- | CONTENTS |
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-
- SECTION A: ABOUT BISEXUALITY (answers to frequently asked questions)
-
- A1. What is "bisexuality" anyway?
- A2. What is "a bisexual"?
- A3. Is there a difference between "a bisexual", "bisexual" and "bi"?
- A4. So if I've never slept with a MOTSS/MOTOS, but I feel attracted to
- one, am I bisexual?
- A5. Aren't bisexuals just going through a phase of being confused about
- their sexuality?
- A6. Aren't bisexuals really denying their homosexuality?
- A7. Are bisexuals equally attracted to both sexes?
- A8. Do bisexuals have to have lovers of both sexes to be bisexual?
- A9. Are bisexuals capable of monogamy?
- A10. But if they're monogamous, how can they be bisexual?
- A11. Isn't everyone really bisexual?
- A12. Why do you think bi issues are different from gay issues, since all
- your problems come the same source, homophobia?
- A13. Why would lesbians/gay men discriminate against bisexuals?
- A14. Why CAN'T you choose one sex over the other?
- A15. I've discovered that I'm bisexual - should I tell my family?
- A16. Is there really a bisexual community?
- A17. Are there any bi-friendly places in real life?
- A18. Does anyone know of any good books with bisexual characters?
- A19. What is the Kinsey scale?
- A20. What other resources are available on bisexuality?
-
-
- SECTION B: ABOUT SOC.BI (please read these guidelines before you post)
-
- B1. Hi, I'm straight. Is it okay if I post here too?
- B2. Is it okay if I ask you all a few questions about bisexuality?
- B3. Would you all please help me with this survey on sexuality?
- B4. "How can I pick up some hot bisexual babes for a threesome?"
- B5. Is there anything else I should not discuss on soc.bi?
- B6. Why are crossposts a bad idea?
- B7. Can I post my list of bi wombat fans weekly/monthly?
- B8. I haven't seen any responses to my posting. Are you all ignoring me?
- B9. Why is soc.bi so argumentative at the moment, why can't it always
- be nice and fluffy?
- B10. You flamed a newbie! Shouldn't you be more supportive?
- B11. I'd like to post to soc.bi but my newsreader won't let me, is there
- another way? And can I post anonymously?
- B12. What do all these acronyms mean: MOTSS, MOTOS, SO, TOCOTOX, YASBP,
- HBB, HNG?
- B13. What about: muffin, de-muffining, fluff, bidar, obBi, BBQ-ripple,
- nutella, sock-biter?
- B14. What do you mean by "monosexual"?
- B15. What's all this about a cabal?
- B16. How old is soc.bi?
-
-
- SECTION C: ABOUT THIS FAQ (where, who and why)
-
- C1. Frequency and purpose
- C2. Contributors
-
-
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- | SECTION A: ABOUT BISEXUALITY |
- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- This section is designed to answer some questions regularly asked about
- bisexuality. They should provide some background to issues which are often
- discussed on soc.bi.
-
-
- A1. What is bisexuality?
-
- Bisexuality means sexual or romantic attraction or behavior directed towards
- some members of more than one sex.
-
-
- A2. What is "a bisexual"?
-
- A strict definition of a bisexual would be someone who has romantic and/or
- sexual relations with other people of more than one sex (though not
- necessarily at the same time - see section A8).
-
- However, since not everyone has necessarily had the opportunity to act on
- their sexual/romantic attractions, some people prefer a looser definition; for
- instance, that a bisexual is a person who - in their own estimation - feels
- POTENTIALLY able to have such attraction. This could be anyone who has erotic,
- affectionate, or romantic feelings for, fantasies of, and/or experiences with
- both men and women.
-
- A bisexual may be more attracted to one sex than the other, attracted equally
- to both, or find people's sex unimportant (see section A7). The strength of
- their attractions to men and women may vary over time.
-
-
- A3. Is there a difference between "a bisexual", "bisexual" and "bi"?
-
- Yes. Definitions for "a bisexual" are suggested above - all relating to
- attraction and behaviour. "Bisexual" (and the short form, "bi") is sometimes
- used as an adjective, to describe a bisexual person.
-
- However, many people who exhibit bisexual behaviour do not identify as
- bisexual; and other people may identify as bisexual for reasons other than
- those suggested in the narrow definitions of section A2. In other words,
- bisexual identity and bisexual behaviour are not necessarily the same thing.
- So the word bisexual is being used in two different ways here.
-
- Some argue that if bisexual is to mean anything, it must have a strong
- definition - that of exhibiting bisexual behaviour, or at least the potential
- for it. Others feel it is more important to respect people's self-definition
- whatever it is.
-
- It has been suggested that the word "bisexual" should be limited to describing
- behaviour, and the word "bi" could be used for describing identity, with all
- the cultural implications which have grown up in the bi community.
-
- Since the word "bisexual" can be used in different ways, it is enough to
- bear this in mind and make it clear how YOU are using it, in the interests of
- good communication.
-
-
- A4. So if I've never slept with a MOTSS/MOTOS, but I feel attracted to
- one, am I bisexual?
-
- (See section B12 for the definitions of MOTSS/MOTOS)
-
- Can you be? Sure. Are you? That's up to you to decide; nobody can make that
- decision for you, and nobody has the right to tell you your decision is wrong.
- Bisexuality isn't about WHOM you sleep with, it's about HOW you feel; so a
- good rule of thumb in defining your sexual identity is not what you've done,
- but what you'd like to do.
-
-
- A5. Aren't bisexuals just going through a phase of being confused about
- their sexuality?
-
- The simple answer is "no" or at least "not necessarily" - many of us are
- absulutely certain that we are attracted to both sexes; there is no confusion.
- Many people are bisexual for life, which proves it is not always just a phase.
-
- It is natural for people who are coming to terms with a sexuality which is not
- society's norm to be feel confused. For some people, bisexuality is a phase
- between homosexuality and heterosexuality (and the individual in question
- could be going in either direction); for others it can just be a brief
- experimentation. But for many people bisexuality is a lifelong, committed
- sexual orientation.
-
- And even for those who ultimately do not stay bisexual for life, that does not
- make it any the less valid as a sexual orientation. Many people have reported
- that their sexual orientation has shifted over time; sexuality is dynamic, not
- fixed. For some people it may be a small shift, others a major change of
- lifestyle; but this does not make the points in between in any sense "wrong".
- Life is a continuous process, and few of us remain exactly the same over long
- periods of time.
-
- Some people who behave bisexually (having sex with both MOTSS and MOTOS over
- time) identify themselves as gay or lesbian or straight. This too does not
- mean that they are confused, only that they base their sexual identity on
- their primary interest rather than going for the more technical term bisexual.
-
-
- A6. Aren't bisexuals really denying their homosexuality?
-
- It's difficult for some lesbian/gay people to come to grips with their
- homosexuality, and for a while, dating MOTOS (see section B12) may make life
- seem a little more "normal" and bearable. Let's face it, coming out of the
- closet and living as a homosexual is no picnic; between the sanctioned
- discrimination which gay/bi men face of being in a perceived high risk group
- for AIDS, and the social standards of love, courtship, and marriage, being
- gay at times takes more energy than humans should be asked to give.
-
- But coming out bisexual is no easy matter, either. Some bisexuals have to face
- loved ones who have relied in the past on their attraction to them being
- constant, and who have to assure them that it will be there in the future.
- We also often have to deal with straight friends who assure us that our
- attraction to MOTSS (section B12) is just "a way of avoiding intimacy" or gay
- friends who suggest that our attraction to MOTOS is "internalized homophobia".
- At all events, whether or not a bisexual is currently involved with a MOTSS,
- to much of the straight world anyone who comes out as bi is queer, "one of
- them," and is discriminated against and excluded on that basis.
-
- Thus, being bi is not an "easy way out," a "denial," or a "middle ground." It
- is for many people the hardest decision they will ever make.
-
-
- A7. Are bisexuals equally attracted to both sexes?
-
- Many bisexuals feel they have a "preference" for one sex over the other, but
- they do not deny their attraction for that other sex.
-
- Some bisexuals, however, have no such preference, and instead focus their
- attractions on qualities they see in an individual regardless of that person's
- sex. Sometimes these qualities involve gender, sometimes not. For example,
- some people find men attractive as men, and women attractive as women; others
- find people's sex irrelevant.
-
-
- A8. Do bisexuals have to have lovers of both sexes to be bisexual?
-
- No. People who call themselves bisexual are saying that they are attracted to
- both men and women. They don't necessarily have to act on that attraction, any
- more than straight or gay people have to act on their attraction to people of
- the same sex as their partner.
-
- There is a separate newsgroup, alt.polyamory, for discussion of the issues
- relating to the dynamics of multi-way relationships (whether involving
- bisexuals or not).
-
-
- A9. Are bisexuals capable of monogamy?
-
- Yes, some are. It depends on the individual. It's like asking "Can a straight
- person be monogamous?" Some bisexuals are monogamous, and some aren't.
- Monogamy is the socially sanctioned option with respect to relationships, but
- then so is heterosexuality. It should be up to every individual, of any
- sexuality, to choose the lifestyle which is right for them.
-
-
- A10. But if they're monogamous, how can they be bisexual?
-
- A bisexual deciding to be monogamous is not deciding to be "gay" or
- "straight." He/she is still bisexual; he/she has chosen a PERSON to live his
- or her life with, not an orientation, preference or ideology. It is important
- to recognize that he/she still FEELS bisexual.
-
-
- A11. Isn't everyone really bisexual?
-
- Not by any useful definition. A useful definition of bisexuality might be,
- anyone who has serious relationships with members of both sexes, and anyone
- who identifies as bisexual. It is possible to suggest that everyone has some
- potential for attraction to both sexes, but since most people(*) never act on
- it, this is pretty irrelevant.
-
- If someone says that they are straight, or (gay/lesbian) then for you to
- insist that they are "really" bisexual but perhaps just don't realise it is to
- deny them their self-identity. Everyone should be free to define their own
- identity for themselves, which invalidates this kind of generalisation.
-
- Moreover, bisexuality is not BETTER than being straight or gay. The best
- thing for each individual is to be what they feel is right. So please do not
- think that people identify as bisexual if they are "more highly evolved" or
- more in touch with their inner feelings. Accept diversity - different people
- really are different.
-
-
- (*) Research carried out at the Harvard School of Public Health, USA in 1994
- found that 20.8% of the men and 17.8% of the women studied admitted to same-
- sex sexual attraction/behaviour at some time in their lives.
-
-
- A12. Why do you think bi issues are different from gay issues, since all
- your problems come from the same source, homophobia?
-
- While homophobia is a bi issue (many would say the biggest issue), we do also
- have concerns different from those of the gay community; the most striking
- being that of dealing with prejudice from the gay community itself!
-
- Among our other issues is the problem of dealing with the emotion of SOs who
- we deeply love yet who cannot understand our attraction to both sexes. And
- being accepted as bisexual if we only have one partner. And we have to deal
- with a lot of myths which surround bisexuality.
-
-
- A13. Why would lesbians/gay men discriminate against bisexuals?
-
- One reason is because we are sometimes perceived as "hiding," a sense that
- some bisexuals use their bisexuality to look heterosexual at work, in
- straight social settings, to enjoy the "heterosexual privilege" that is part
- of the social norm. Secondly, bisexuals are sometimes seen as blurring the
- issues and weakening the lesbian and gay movement. Naturally, bisexual
- activists disagree with this view (we feel that the real issue is sexual
- freedom for all sexualities), but sometimes lesbians and gays label bisexuals
- "traitors" for this reason. A further reason is that some lesbians and gay men
- also have sex with MOTOS (while not identifying as bisexual). Often peer
- pressure means that they can't admit this in the lesbian and gay communities,
- and see bisexuality as a threat to their own acceptance. And finally, simply
- because of the fear that arises out of ignorance and out of the media's very
- poor record of portraying bisexuals as serial killers, homophobes and
- generally self-centred, confused people.
-
- The lesbian and gay communities are oppressed by homophobia and prejudice, but
- unfortunately being oppressed is no guarantee that you won't oppress others.
- Happily, prejudice against bisexuals in the lesbian and gay communities seems
- to be diminishing over time as more people come to accept that sexuality is
- not a monochrome issue.
-
-
- A14. Why CAN'T you choose one sex over the other?
-
- Some of us have tried, but why should we? Denying our attraction to one sex or
- the other HURTS. If you ask the question out of innocence (you don't feel this
- attraction, so why should anybody?) then you're asking us to put away feelings
- that we cannot and will not live without. If you ask these questions with full
- knowledge of the issues at hand, then your question is as patently offensive
- as a white supremacist asking us to choose one race over another.
-
-
- A15. I've discovered that I'm bisexual - should I tell my family?
-
- Look at your life, and decide that if by telling them you will help yourself,
- and by not telling them you won't hurt yourself (one doesn't necessarily
- preclude the other). Both instances, of telling or not telling, can be
- problems. They may not accept you, then again, maybe they will. Not telling
- them may leave you at peace, or it may gnaw at your mind constantly, with "I
- really need to tell them" or "I really need to tell SOMEONE who knows me
- well."
-
- There are many people in the bisexual community who can tell you of good and
- bad situations that have happened to us with each different type of decision.
- Indeed, these "coming-out stories" (so called because they describe "coming
- out of the closet" and telling people of our sexuality) are often to be heard
- whenever bisexuals meet - it is something that brings us together, because so
- many of us have one of these stories to tell.
-
- But, ultimately, the decision is yours, and must be made by you. We can offer
- support for your courage, and comfort for your loss, happiness for your gain.
- But YOU must make the step to make it all possible. You must decide whether
- any need to know, or whether you WANT any to know. Good luck.
-
-
- A16. Is there really a bisexual community?
-
- You're talking to one right now. We are here to share our lives, through
- stories, history, friends, family; we are here, on soc.bi, to reach out from
- one bisexual to another and bridge the gap between isolated bisexual
- communities. To be the human part of the interface.
-
- We are slowly coming together, demanding that our love of both sexes not be
- ridiculed or minimized. Demanding that as much as the gay/lesbian community
- wants recognition and respect from the straight community, we demand
- recognition and respect from both. We are falling in love or grieving in loss;
- we deal with the very human issues of having children; we deal with a world
- after the advent of AIDS. We enjoy discussing our shared experiences that
- make us slightly different to the rest of the world. What else is a community?
-
-
- A17. Are there any bi-friendly places in real life?
-
- Yes. Some lesbian/gay venues (pubs/bars, clubs, meeting-rooms) welcome
- bisexuals (or in some cases, at least tolerate us). Many major cities in the
- UK and the USA (and, increasingly, in Australia) have bisexual groups which
- meet regularly and provide a bi-friendly "space". Details of how to get in
- contact with the nearest such group to you can be found in:
- _The Bisexual Resource Guide_, edited by Robyn Ochs
- published by the "Bisexual Resource Center".
- Send US$11.95 to BRC, POB 639, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02140, USA.
- Additions since the most recent edition of this are included in the
- Bisexual Resources List (see section A20).
-
-
- A18. Does anyone know of any good books with bisexual characters?
-
- The Bisexual Resources List (cf section A20) gives up-to-date details of how
- to get lists of books (both general literature, and specifically Science
- Ficton/Fantasy) with bisexual themes and/or characters. Additions to these
- lists are always welcomed.
-
-
- A19. What is the Kinsey scale?
-
- Dr. Alfred Kinsey created a scale, graduated between heterosexuality and
- homosexuality, to rate individuals on actual experiences and psychological
- reactions. The ratings are as follows:
-
- 0: Entirely heterosexual.
- 1: Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual.
- 2: Predominantly heterosexual, but with a distinct homosexual history.
- 3: Equally heterosexual and homosexual.
- 4: Predominantly homosexual, but with a distinct heterosexual history.
- 5: Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual.
- 6: Entirely homosexual.
-
- Clearly anything above 0 and less than 6 can be defined as bisexual. Although
- many people will say "I am Kinsey (whatever)," it should be noted that
- subsequent researchers such as Klein have found it more useful to rate people
- on a variety of levels, such as "Past History," "Present History," "Present
- Feelings," and "Future Inclinations". Nevertheless the Kinsey scale remains a
- useful tool for discussion of sexuality precisely because it is so simple.
-
-
- A20. What other resources are available on bisexuality?
-
- There is a great deal of information on all kinds of aspects of bisexuality
- on the world wide web. Among the best collections of pointers to information
- are:
- BiResource.org: http://www.biresource.org/resources.html
- Queer Resource Directory: http://www.qrd.org/
- bi.org Links Central: http://bi.org/db/
- bisexual.org resources: http://www.bisexual.org/pages/3aresources-page.asp
-
- This FAQ and many other resources are also available on the soc.bi homepage
- at http://serf.org/~jon/soc.bi/
- The other resources at this address include mini-biographies of many soc.bi
- posters, a collection of recipes, poems and an archive of recent articles.
-
-
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- | SECTION B: ABOUT SOC.BI |
- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- This section describes the prevailing "etiquette" approved by consensus on
- soc.bi. The questions and answers address many issues which regularly cause
- friction in the group. By reading these before posting, we hope you will be
- able to avoid some pitfalls by which you may annoy large numbers of soc.bi
- posters, leading to "flame" traffic; by avoiding these situations, the group
- can be more positive and constructive for everyone.
-
- Pronunciation note: you can pronounce soc.bi how you like, but a recent poll
- showed that "sock buy" is the most popular form in Europe (closely followed by
- "sock dot buy"), with "soash buy" well ahead in the rest of the world.
-
-
- B1. Hi, I'm straight. Is it okay if I post here too?
-
- You do not need to be bisexual to post here and be welcomed. Indeed, several
- of the regular posters to soc.bi are straight; some others are lesbian or gay.
- However, if you are straight and post here then there is no need to mention
- that you are straight in every single posting. By all means mention your
- sexuality if it is of relevance to the discussion at hand, but if you feel a
- need to mention that you are straight every time you post then you should ask
- yourself why this is so. If you are scared of people thinking that you are
- bisexual because you post to soc.bi then perhaps you should refrain from
- posting here, or at least post anonymously.
-
-
- B2. Is it okay if I ask you all a few questions about bisexuality?
-
- Please realise that many people who are bisexual (or members of any other
- oppressed group for that matter) are frequently asked to justify or explain
- themselves. Some of us who have been asked time and time again what it means
- to be bisexual have grown very tired of answering such questions. If you are
- really interesed in bisexuality then why not read the book "Bi Any Other Name:
- Bisexual People Speak Out" (edited by Loraine Hutchins and Lani Kaahumanu;
- Alison Publications, Boston 1991. ISBN 1-55583-174-5. $11.95). This excellent
- book, which contains about 70 or more personal accounts, will probably answer
- most of your questions; why not read that book first, and then, if you still
- have a few questions, ask soc.bi for more information.
-
-
- B3. Would you all please help me with this survey on sexuality?
-
- People post surveys to soc.bi pretty regularly, so you are not likely to get a
- very good response. Many of these questionnaires appear to be badly thought
- out, and of little if any scientific use. So, if it looks like you just want
- to use our group for your end of term project, or might be from (say) a
- religious organisation trying to get evidence of promiscuity against us, you
- are liable to get more flames than completed surveys.
-
- If you undertaking a survey for some serious academic purpose, and still want
- to include soc.bi, you would be well advised to follow these guidelines:
- - Tell us exactly who you are, where you work, and why you are doing a
- survey. In particular, what use to you is a self-selected sample? If you
- have any previous publications to cite, that would go a long way to help.
- - Say whether the identity of respondents will be kept confidential, and if
- so, offer convincing arguments that you will keep this promise. You may
- want to include details of how to reply through an anonymous server.
- - Since it is often possible to guess at the identity of a respondent from
- quoted text, if you wish to quote segments of confidential responses in
- your results, you should obtain permission from the respondent first.
- - Out of courtesy, please post some form of your results to the group.
-
- A note on terminology: many people, including researchers studying sexual
- identity, seem unclear about vocabulary relating to minority sexual
- identities. In particular, remember that many bisexual-identified people do
- not feel included by the terms "lesbian" and "gay". If you intend to inlcude
- bisexual-identified people, enumerate "bisexual" whenever you enumerate
- "lesbian" and "gay". Do not use "lesbian and gay" unless you specifically
- mean "lesbian and gay but NOT bisexual".
-
- Moreover, to describe the sex of romantic or sexual partners, use terms like
- "same sex" and "mixed sex"; AVOID the term "lesbian and gay relationships" if
- you mean "same sex relationships", if you wish bisexual-identified people to
- feel included. If, for instance, you say "I am studying gay and lesbian
- relationships and I want you to participate" many bisexuals will read this as
- "I'm not willing to take the time and energy to figure out how to phrase this
- to include you too".
-
-
- B4. "How can I pick up some hot bisexual babes for a threesome?"
-
- Don't even THINK about using soc.bi for picking up casual partners. Soc.bi is
- designed to be a bi-friendly place; it is NOT alt.sex.*, alt.personals.*,
- soc.penpals or alt.romance, and attempts to use it as such are not welcomed.
- The group alt.personals.bi may be the most appropriate place for these posts.
- The newsgroup itself is for public discussion; we specifically ask you to
- refrain from posting to this newsgroup only to pick up on people, in other
- words, NO PERSONAL ADS.
-
- There are several reasons for this. One is to create a safer space for people
- to open up about themselves and issues they wish to talk about; including
- those people who may be made uncomfortable by requests for sex. Another is to
- lessen tactless offers (especially those including rude, obnoxious, or
- inappropriately gross language).
-
- So, please avail yourself of private e-mail to get to know people better and
- discuss anything you wish. However, bear in mind that just because a person
- posts to soc.bi doesn't mean they wish to discuss sex. Assume they don't
- unless they say they do.
-
- If you feel you have received offensive e-mail, regarding threesomes or sex in
- general (if discussing that is unwelcome) or anything else, you have several
- options; for instance to ignore it, or to reply stating that the mail is
- unwelcome, and asking the sender not to e-mail you again. If this fails, you
- can contact the sysadmin of the sender's system and inform her/him about a
- user's abuse of usenet news privileges.
-
-
- B5. Is there anything else I should not discuss on soc.bi?
-
- While by and large anything goes, any consideration of the "morality" (or
- even, the existence) of bisexuality is specifically inappropriate, so please,
- don't do it. That said, we all know that there are biphobic/homophobic bigots
- out there, who will be here to preach unto us as only they can. For those of
- you who would like a livable bi-space, please sit on your hands and don't
- answer them. You'll only be encouraging their favorite form of mental
- masturbation.
-
- Advertisments for commercial services are also inappropriate and should not
- be posted to soc.bi. In particular, advertisment of for-profit personals
- services are unwelcome. So not only NO PERSONAL ADS, but NO ADS FOR PERSONALS
- SERVICES. As with the rest of usenet, any endorsement of commerical services
- (of any kind) are appropriate only if they are personal recommendations from
- customers, not advertising by those who would profit. On soc.bi, we find it
- especially annoying when people use us as a market without participating in
- the bisexual community.
-
- Sometimes new people post on a topic which is a FAQ, wildly off-topic or so
- regularly raised as to induce boredom, and are then surprised that they don't
- get any serious responses. The best advice for new readers is to refrain from
- posting until they have read the newsgroup for a while to develop a feel for
- what topics are appropriate.
-
-
- B6. Why is crossposting a bad idea?
-
- Posting to two or more newsgroups runs a greatly increased risk of starting
- flame wars. It is not a good idea to start a thread between two newsgroups, or
- even to follow-up to an existing cross-posted thread, unless you are familiar
- with both newsgroups and the people involved. If you say something ignorant or
- offensive, the resulting flames have a wider, more diverse audience, and tend
- to grow exponentially.
-
- A possible exception is posting announcements of general interest to two or
- more groups. In this case we recommend including the header: "Followup-To:
- poster" to indicate that comments should be sent to you via e-mail.
-
- Be careful to look at and edit your headers so you don't unintentionally
- spread cross-posts while commenting on other people's messages.
-
-
- B7. Can I post my list of bi wombat fans weekly/monthly?
-
- It is recommended that periodic postings to soc.bi satisfy at least one of the
- two following criteria:
- - They are directly related to the soc.bi "electronic community".
- - They are of interest to bisexuals over a wide geographic area.
-
- If you have something you want to publicize that does not fit these criteria
- you might consider whether there is a place for it in some existing periodic
- posting or online site, such as the Bisexual Resource List, or the Queer
- Resource Directory (see section A20).
-
-
- B8. I haven't seen any responses to my posting. Are you all ignoring me?
-
- In all likelihood, people have read your posting but choose not to respond for
- any number of different reasons which have nothing to do with wanting to
- ignore or snub you. Among them could be:
- - they basically agreed with what you said and did not have anything to add
- to it, and did not want to waste bandwidth with a "I agree" posting;
- - they wanted to reply did not have the time to do so;
- - they decided to reply "sometime after lunch when I have more time" and
- then, by Murphy's Law, forgot all about it; or
- - perhaps your posting was one which was seeking advice and they did not
- feel qualified enough to offer you any, perhaps hoping that someone else
- might do so instead.
-
-
- B9. Why is soc.bi so argumentative at the moment, why can't it always be
- nice and fluffy?
-
- There is no one single purpose to the soc.bi newsgroup. Some people like the
- flirtations/fluff (see section B13); others prefer to have serious discussions
- about sexual politics or perhaps read coming out stories, or even something
- else still. It can be what we want it to be, and what we make it; if the
- current tone of soc.bi does not appeal to you then I suggest that instead of
- complaining about it, YOU post the type of articles which you would like to
- see here... post fluff, if you want it to be fluffy. If others agree, they
- will followup some of your postings and pretty soon the balance of articles
- in the group will have changed to accomodate your needs.
-
- Remember, not all bisexuals are fluffy. Liking fluff is no more an inherent
- part of being bisexual than liking barbecue ripple ice-cream. If we are all
- tolerant towards each other, there will be room for us all in soc.bi.
-
-
- B10. You flamed a newbie! Shouldn't you be more supportive?
-
- Soc.bi is a discussion group, not a support group. This does not mean that
- people having problems with their sexuality are not welcome on soc.bi, nor
- that we will not give our opinions or advice about stated problems, usually
- with a sympathetic ear - after all, in many cases others of us will have
- experienced similar problems.
-
- However, it is important to note the distinction between a support group and
- a discussion group. In a support group, the primary emphasis is on allowing
- people to come to terms with their sexuality. In such a case, off-topic
- conversations are discouraged, while opinions that may be offensive to non-
- bisexuals may be allowed under the belief that its a crutch in helping the
- person come to terms with their bisexuality. There's an entire soc.support.*
- hierarchy where anyone who wants support can find it.
-
- In a discussion group like soc.bi, we talk about pretty much anything and
- everything; soc.bi is a place (and, for some of us, the only place) where we
- can simply sit down and talk with other bisexuals. Most of us agree that it
- is dangerous to allow stupidity to go unchallenged, and different people will
- do this in whatever way suits them, whether that means by constructive
- criticism or by flaming. The best way to avoid flames is just to remember to
- practice safe posting; think about what you've written before you send it,
- and always remember that being bisexual does not exempt you from the problems
- of homophobia or stupidity. If you appear thoughtful, and willing to listen to
- other people's opinions, you're likely to be warmly welcomed not flamed.
-
-
- B11. I'd like to post to soc.bi but my newsreader won't let me, is there
- another way? And can I post anonymously?
-
- If your local news server or software won't let you post, and you have a World
- Wide Web Browser, there are a number of web-based services which let you.
- A list of these can be found at Google Groups:
- http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Usenet/Web_Based/
-
- It is generally accepted that some people have valid reasons for not posting
- to soc.bi under their own name; for this reason, anonymous posting is allowed.
- For further information on anonymous posting to usenet, such as how to use one
- of the "anonymous remailer" services which can be used to post articles to
- usenet anonymously, see the "Anonymity on the Internet FAQ" postings in
- news.answers.
-
-
- B12. What do all these acronyms mean: MOTSS, MOTOS, SO, TOCOTOX, YASBP,
- HBB, HNG?
-
- MOTSS: Member(s) Of The Same Sex. Often loosely used to refer to anyone who
- is ATTRACTED to members of the same sex.
- MOTOS: Member(s) Of The Other (or Opposite) Sex.
- SO: Significant Other. Unrestrictive term which may apply to lover,
- husband, wife, playpartner, or anyone else of importance to the
- person concerned. On soc.bi, SO does NOT imply MOTOS or MOTSS.
- TOCOTOX:TOo COmplicated TO eXplain. A relationship of any type which the
- person using the term does not wish to go into detail about.
- YASBP: Yet Another soc.bi Party.
- HBB: Hot Bi Babe. See section B4. Nothing to do with pencils.
- Note that on soc.bi, Hot Bi Babe can refer to a person of ANY sex.
- HNG: Horny Net Geek. The sort of "clueless hetboy" who might be found
- looking for 2HBB (two hot bi babes). See section B4.
-
-
- B13. What about: muffin, de-muffining, fluff, bidar, obBi, bidiot,
- BBQ-ripple, nutella, sock-biter?
-
- muffin: A person who reads but has never posted to soc.bi. De-muffining means
- posting to soc.bi for the first time, hence no longer being a muffin.
-
- fluff: In this context, fluff is a post (or part of a post) with no serious
- intellectual content, only friendly greetings. Actions surrounded by
- asterisks, eg *HUGS* are usually fluffy.
-
- bidar: the ability to spot bisexuals just by looking at people (from radar;
- gaydar is also used)
-
- obBi: obligatory Bisexuality. Usually used at the end of an article with no
- other bisexual relevance, to show that the article really is
- relevant to soc.bi
-
- bidiot: a person who claims to be bisexual in order to be trendy, but who
- would never consider actually having sex with a MOTSS.
- BBQ-
- ripple: Barbecue ripple ice-cream. Opinions are sharply divided on whether it
- is nice. ObBi: the only people who like it are bisexual.
-
- nutella:A chocolate spread, with a hint of hazlenut. Relevant to soc.bi only
- in that it can be spread on bisexuals instead of bread. Other spreads
- are available and probably work just as well.
- sock-
- biter: Someone who posts to soc.bi (derived from the "sock buy" pronunciation
- of soc.bi).
-
- B14. What do you mean by "monosexual"?
-
- Monosexual is a term which can be used to describe any person whose long-term
- sexual orientation and history indicates an attraction to only one sex; a
- homosexual or heterosexual, a Kinsey 6 or 0 (see section A19).
-
- You should be aware that many individuals object to a term which they feel
- denegrates or reduces non-bisexual sexualities. On the other hand, others feel
- that in a discussion where the focus is bisexuality, "monosexual" is useful as
- a clinical term. Moreover, the concept of a commonality between exclusively
- heterosexual and exclusively homosexual attraction, as opposed to bisexual
- attractions, has been useful to some people in the process of coming to terms
- with their bisexuality - and the word monosexuality embodies that concept.
- As long as it is remembered that gays and lesbians do not fit into this same
- coming-out-as-bi process, and that there should be no implied sense of
- inferiority in the term monosexual, then the word can be considered useful.
-
- The point to remember is that just as we, as bisexuals, do not want people to
- talk down to us, we should not talk down to non-bisexuals. Everyone should be
- allowed the dignity of owning their own identity and sexuality. Don't persist
- in calling people by names which they find offensive. Don't offer sweeping
- generalisations about homosexuals or heterosexuals; and don't base your pride
- in who and what you are, on the fact that you're "NOT, thank God, someone or
- something else".
-
-
- B15. What's all this about a cabal?
-
- Some people make jokes about a "soc.bi cabal" of people who know each other
- and make secret decisions about the group. But although some of us have met
- each other, others haven't, and there really is nothing secret going on. The
- FAQ contributors would like to categorically deny this. Of course, if we were
- all in a secret cabal together, we would, wouldn't we - so ultimately you'll
- just have to make your own mind up.
-
-
- B16. How old is soc.bi?
-
- The group was "newgrouped" on the 22nd October, 1991. Its charter, posted
- in the call for votes, is as follows:
- Soc.Bi is for the discussion of bisexuality: what it is, what it means
- to be bisexual, bisexuality and bisexuals as they relate to straight and
- gay/lesbian culture, etc. Anyone wishing to discuss these issues is invited
- to take part. As with soc.motss, discussions on whether bisexuality is
- "right" or "wrong" are emphatically discouraged. The group is unmoderated.
-
- Yes, the 10th anniversary is coming up. It's likely to be marked by
- YASBPs (see section B12) worldwide.
-
-
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- | SECTION C: ABOUT THE FAQ |
- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- C1. Frequency and purpose
-
- This FAQ is posted weekly to soc.bi,news.answers,soc.answers. It is available
- on the web at http://serf.org/~jon/soc.bi/
- It is maintained by Jon Harley, jon@serf.org. Suggestions for additions or
- improvements are always welcome. Copyright is reserved so that I can
- withhold permission to reproduce this FAQ on CD-ROM for profit.
-
- The aim of this FAQ is not only to reduce traffic (and repetition) on soc.bi,
- but also to help you get more out of the group. Feedback on how well it does
- this is also welcome.
-
-
- C2. Contributors
-
- These are the people directly involved in developing the FAQ. Although Jon
- Harley is the editor, much of the text was actually written by the following
- people.
-
- The original version of this FAQ was drafted by Elf Sternberg. The other major
- contributors were Tim Pierce, Alan Hamilton, Dave Berry, Tom Limoncelli,
- Albert Lunde, Ciaran McHale and Adam C. Wick.
-
- Others who have contributed text are John Flanagan, Beth Linker, Ellen Keyne
- Seebacher, STella and Omaha Sternberg.
-
- Thanks also to Alan Jaffray, Alison Rowan, Brenda Mobley, Craig Dickson, Matt
- Brown, Peter Flynn, Richard Kennaway and Nyar the Aardvark.
-
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- + Copyright (c) Jon Harley 2001. May not be reproduced for profit. +
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