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-
- Subject: 8b.3 Snakebite flats
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2001 14:13:14 PDT
-
- Snakebites, otherwise known as pinch flats, are so called because they
- usually cause adjacent punctures about 10mm apart (for tires with
- about a 25mm diameter cross section). They occur when the tire casing
- bottoms on the rim, causing a compression failure in the tube for both
- clinchers and tubulars, much like pinching the cheek with thumb and
- forefinger. The finger tips simulate the tire casing and the cheek
- the tube.
-
- Reasonably inflated tires can bottom when crossing RR tracks, riding
- up a driveway with a raised lip at street level, or riding on rough
- roads with ruts and rocks. Although higher inflation pressure helps,
- it does not guarantee protection. Watching how, and how fast, such
- obstacles are encountered helps more.
-
- Because latex rubber of tubes commonly used in better tubular tires is
- several times more stretchable than common butyl rubber, such tubulars
- are less susceptible to snakebites. When sheet rubber is compressed,
- it stretches laterally like a drum skin, and the farther it can
- stretch the less likely it is to tear. In contrast, when ridden over
- such obstacles, tubular rims are often dented without the tire going
- flat. However, because thin latex tubes hold air so poorly that they
- must be inflated daily, snakebites from under-inflation were more
- common in the days when most riders rode tubulars.
-
- Snakebites can be identified by inspecting the tube under grazing
- light that will reveal diagonal tire cord impressions at the
- perforation. This is especially important when only one hole occurs,
- the other not penetrating. Riders have claimed that the hole occurred
- spontaneously on the underside of the tube and demand reimbursement.
-
- Underside snakebites, the least common, occur mostly on fat MTB tires
- that are often ridden with low pressure on soft terrain. At low
- pressure, such a tire can roll to one side and pop back, without
- disengaging the rim. A snakebite caused by this mechanism appears on
- the underside of the tube similar to laying your head to one side
- while pinching the skin at the Adam's apple. Such flats are
- erroneously attributed to rim tape failure and other obscure causes,
- when in fact it was under-inflation that can no longer be assessed.
- Here cord impressions also give evidence of a snakebite.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.4 Blowouts and Sudden Flats
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 7:42:45 PDT
-
- Bicyclists often report tube failures that they believe occurred
- inside the tire casing. They believe these are caused by a faulty
- tube that split or that the rim tape failed. However, they also heard
- a bang after which the tire was flat. On removing the tire casing
- from the rim with tire irons, they discover a burst tube with a large
- slash.
-
- If there was an audible bang, then the tire was off the rim. That the
- undamaged tire is still on the rim afterwards proves only that tires
- usually fall back into place after exposing the tube. A tube cannot
- blow out inside the tire with a bang, because a bang is caused by a
- sudden change in volume, an expansion. Such an expansion is not
- possible within a tire casing. Beyond that, the resulting clean slash
- in the tube cannot occur from rim tape that would cause a gradual
- failure along an abraded line that extends beyond the end of the
- split. A burst into a rime hole would cause a starburst hole that is
- smaller than the rim socket because the tube shrinks when no longer
- inflated.
-
- Tire blow-off occurs most commonly on tandems where substantial energy
- of descending mountain roads is converted to heat in rims by braking,
- in contrast to a single bicycle, where most of the energy is
- dissipated by wind drag. Rim heating has two effects, of which
- increased pressure is probably the lesser one. Heat softens the bead
- of the tire so that it can squirm out of its clinching seat in the
- rim. Tire casing flex at the load point works the tire so that it
- squirms out of engagement. Heat also increases lubricity of the bead
- against the rim to facilitate creep. Formerly, base tapes made of a
- dense gauze-like tube, filled with Kapok, were offered for mountain
- tourists. This padding served as insulation to prevent the rim from
- heating the tube and increasing pressure.
-
- Short tubes, that must be stretched to fit on the rim, can cause tire
- blow-off. A stretched tube will occupy the space on the bed of the
- rim where the tire bead should be to make proper engagement with the
- hook of the rim sidewall. The tube under the bead of the tire can
- prevent proper engagement with a hooked rim to cause a blow-off even
- without great heat or pressure.
-
- Valve stem separation is a failure that is less dangerous because it
- usually occurs during inflation. It causes a slow leak when occurring
- while riding, as the vulcanized brass stem gradually separates from
- the tube. When this occurs, the stem can be pulled out entirely to
- leave a small hole into which a valve stem from a latex tube of a
- tubular tire will fit. Stems from tubulars have a mushroom end, a
- clamp washer, and a locknut, that fit ideally. Such a used stem
- should be part of a tire patch kit.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.5 Blown Tubes
- From: Tom Reingold <tr@samadams.princeton.edu>
-
- Charles E Newman writes:
-
- $ Something really weird happened at 12:11 AM. My bike blew a
- $ tire while just sitting parked in my room. I was awakened by a noise
- $ that scared the livin ^&$% out of me. I ran in and found that all the
- $ air was rushing out of my tire. How could something like happen in the
- $ middle of the night when the bike isn't even being ridden? I have
- $ heard of it happening when the bike is being ridden but not when it is
- $ parked.
-
- This happened because a bit of your inner tube was pinched between your
- tire bead and your rim. Sometimes it takes a while for the inner tube
- to creap out from under the tire. Once it does that, it has nothing to
- keep the air pressure in, so it blows out. Yes, it's scary. I've had
- it happen in the room where I was sleeping.
-
- To prevent this, inflate the tire to about 20 psi and move the tire
- left and right, making sure no part of the inner tube is pinched.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.6 Tube Failure in Clinchers
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:02:23 PDT
-
- Riders occasionally tell about a tube that blew out with a loud bang
- INSIDE their tire, leaving the tube with a long slash. The tube blew
- out, but not as described. If there was a bang, the tube was outside
- the tire. That is, the tire lifted off the rim and fell back in place
- after the tube burst.
-
- Tubes do not burst inside tire casings, although they may leak, the
- most they can do is give off an audible hiss, assuming it is otherwise
- quiet enough. An un-socketed double walled rim can make a dull pop if
- the tube is exposed to the inner rim volume. The concept that a tube
- can explode inside a tire is dangerous, because it leads people to
- believe that tubes can mysteriously fail without apparent cause INSIDE
- a tire. With few exceptions, the cause is an improperly mounted tire.
-
- Without understanding the cause, a rider may continue to risk a
- blowout, without realizing that tire lift-off can be caused by the
- tube lying between the rim and the tire bead. In this position, the
- tube prevents the tire from seating properly in the hook of the rim, a
- condition that, under the right circumstances, will cause a blowout.
- This cannot occur inside the tire casing. To prevent blow-off, the
- tire seat must be inspected by pushing the tire away from the rim,
- upon which the tube should not exposed at any point around the tire.
-
- Valve stem separation is another common failure, but it is less
- dangerous because it usually occurs while inflating the tire. If it
- occurs while riding it causes a slow leak, as the vulcanized brass
- stem separates from the tube. When this occurs, the stem can be
- pulled out entirely to leave a small hole into which a valve stem from
- a latex tube of a tubular tire will fit. Stems from tubulars have a
- mushroom end, a clamp washer, and a locknut, that fit ideally. Such a
- used stem should be part of a tire patch kit.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.7 More Flats on Rear Tires
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:15:42 PST
-
- Many sharp objects, especially those that lie flat on the road like
- nails and pieces of metal, more often enter rear tires than the front
- tires. That is because the front tire upends them just in time for
- the rear tire to be impaled on them.
-
- For example, nails seldom enter front tires. When dropped from a
- moving vehicle, nails slide down the road, and align themselves
- pointing toward traffic, because they prefer to slide head first as
- they would when laid on a slope. The front tire rolling over such a
- lengthwise nail, can tilt it up just in time for the rear tire to
- encounter it on end. I once got a flat from a one inch diameter steel
- washer that the front tire had flipped up so that the rear tire struck
- it on edge. When following another wheel closely, the front tire can
- get the "rear tire" treatment from the preceding wheel.
-
- The front wheel set-up effect is especially true for "Michelin" wires,
- the fine strands of stainless wire that make up steel belts of auto
- tires. These wires, left on the road when such tires exposes their
- belt, cause hard to find slow leaks almost exclusively in rear tires.
-
- When wet, glass can stick to the tire even in the flat orientation and
- thereby get a second chance when it comes around again. To make
- things worse, glass cuts far more easily when wet as those who have
- cut rubber tubing in chemistry class may remember. A wet razor blade
- cuts latex rubber tubing in a single slice while a dry blade only
- makes a nick.
-
- As for pinch flats, aka snake bites, they occur on the rear wheel more
- readily because it carries more load and is uncushioned when the rider
- is seated. The rider's arms, even when leaning heavily on the front
- wheel, cushion impact when striking a blunt obstacle.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.8 Tube and Tire Casing Repair
- From: John Forester <JForester@cup.portal.com>
-
- There sure seems a dearth of knowledge about patching both tubes and
- casings.
-
- Yes, the idea that tubes could be patched without liquid cement was a
- good idea, but only as an idea to research to see whether an adequate
- adhesive could be developed. So far as I know, all the peel and stick
- adhesives are very viscous liquids. That means that they don't harden and
- therefore that the air pressure will slowly leak into and through them. If
- the viscosity is high enough it will take the air under pressure a long
- time to form another leak. A glueless patch of the peel and stick variety
- cannot have effective solvents in it, because the solvent would evaporate
- during storage. Even if the patch were sealed inside a container that
- prevented the evaporation of the solvent, the system would have the problem
- of getting enough glue onto the tube and then letting the solvent partially
- evaporate from the open joint for the joint to be made. You might as well
- use the old system.
-
- The problem that some experience is that they find the cement hardened in
- the zinc dispensing tube. The answer to that is to buy the cement and its
- solvent in bulk and carry a small quantity in a small jar with a screw cap.
- A metal jar would be most useful, but I do not know of any common source for
- such. Small glass jars are commonly available and last well enough.
- Periodically, examine the cement inside and top up with solvent if it gets
- too thick. Because the cement tends to glue the cap to the jar, it is
- desirable to wrap both the jar and the cap with several layers of adhesive
- tape to provide a better gripping surface at a larger radius.
-
- Two kinds of cement are available. The traditional cement is rubber cement,
- Camel #12-086 Universal Cement, available at tire shops. The other cement is
- contact cement, available from hardware stores. While the modern
- formulations often are non-flammable and use chlorinated hydrocarbons as
- solvents, buy the flammable kind, if available, because the chlorinated
- hydrocarbons are detrimental to rubber. (Very important for diluting rim
- cement for tubular tires. Not so important for just tire patches or boots
- because the solvent evaporates.) In any case, use toluol as the replacement
- solvent, available at hardware stores.
-
- The tube must be cleaned before applying the cement. Stick medium sandpaper
- to tongue depressors and cut to lengths that fit your patch kit.
-
- Cut casings are repaired with an internal boot. Satisfactory boots are
- made from cotton trouser fabric or from lightweight dacron sail fabric.
- These must be cemented by contact cement, not tube cement. Cut pieces of
- suitable size, so that they run almost from bead to bead when laid inside
- the casing. Coat one side with several layers of contact cement and let it
- dry completely before storage. Before applying, coat the inside of
- the casing with contact cement and press the boot into place before the
- cement dries. Wait about ten minutes before inflating the tire. If you wait
- too long, the cement really hardens and there will be a narrow spot in the
- casing because of the greater strength where the patch reinforces the
- casing.
-
- It is probably possible to use contact cement as the tube patch cement.
- Do not use tube cement for boots; it slowly creeps and allows the boot to
- bulge. So carry a small jar of each cement, or one of contact cement.
-
- Contact cement is suitable for closing the outside of the cut also, but
- it must be applied in several layers and allowed to dry thoroughly before
- use, or it will pick up particles from the road. Duro Plastic Rubber is a
- thicker black rubber paste that can be applied in one layer and left to
- harden.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.9 Presta Valve Nuts
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:46:59 PST
-
- Jam nuts on Presta valve stems and pumping.
-
- 1. The jam nut holds the stem when pumping so that it does not recede
- into the rim when pressing the pump head against the tire. This is
- especially useful when the tire is flat (after installing the
- tube). It also keeps the stem from wiggling around while pumping.
- Removing the nut should present no difficulty unless the threads
- have been damaged or the hands are cold. The cold may present a
- problem, but then just opening the valve nut on a Presta valve
- under such conditions is difficult.
-
- 2. Breaking off stems with a frame pump comes from incorrect pumping.
- The number of new tubes with broken stems lying along the road
- proves that this occurs far too often. To avoid breaking the stem,
- the pump head should be be held in the fist so that the pumping
- force goes from one hand into the other, not from the pump into the
- valve stem. To practice the correct action, hold the pump head in
- one hand with the thumb over the outlet, and pump vigorously
- letting out no air. All the force goes from one hand into the
- other. This is essentially what should take place when inflating a
- tire.
-
- It does no good to "get even" with the stupid tube by discarding it
- on the road for all to see. Most riders understand how to pump a
- tire and see this only as evidence of incompetence rather than a
- faulty tube. Besides, this ostentatious behavior constitutes
- littering for which the the fine in California is $1000. Bike
- shops should instruct new bike owners about the use of the frame
- pump. Along with this there should be some tire patch hints like
- don't try to ride a freshly patched tube, carry a spare tube and
- always use the spare after patching the punctured tube. Of course
- this is a whole subject in itself that is also treated in the FAQ.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.10 Rim Tape Summary
- From: Ron Larson <lars@craycos.com>
-
- This is a summary of the experience of riders on the net regarding
- various rim tapes, both commercial and improvized. Any additional
- comments and inputs are welcome.
-
- RIM TAPE
-
- Rim tape or rim strips are the material that is placed inside a
- clincher rim to protect the tube from sharp edges of the nipple holes
- and possibly exposed ends of spokes extending beyond the nipples. Many
- materials have been used to produce rim tapes: plastic, rubber, tapes
- consisting of a multi-directional fiber weave, duct tape and fiberglass
- packing tape.
-
- A few factors influence how well a rim tape works. Some of the tapes
- are available in more than one width. It is important to choose the
- width that provides the best fit to cover the entire "floor" of the rim
- as opposed to a tape that is barely wide enough to cover the nipple
- holes. Another factor is how well the rim tape withstands the stress of
- being stretched over the nipple holes with a high preassure inner tube
- applying preassure to it. The main form of failure of the plastic tapes
- is for the tape to split lengthwise (in the direction the tube lies in
- the rim) under high preassure forming a sharp edge that the tube
- squeezes through and then rubs against. Thus the splitting tape causes
- the flat that it was supposed to be protecting against.
-
- REVIEW OF RIM TAPES BY TYPE
-
- Plastic Tapes
-
- Advantages:
-
- Easy to install and remove. No sticky side is involved.
-
- Disadvantages:
-
- Although there are exceptions, they are prone to splitting under
- preassure.
-
- Michelin Good Experiences: 0 Bad Experiences: 6
-
- Cool Tape Good Experiences: 2 Bad Experiences: 0
-
- Cool Tape is thicker than other plastic tapes and does not exhibit
- the splitting failure noted above.
-
- Hutchinson Good Experiences: 0 Bad Experiences: 2
-
- Specialized Good Experiences: 1 Bad Experiences: 4
-
- Rubber Tapes
-
- Advantages:
-
- Easy to install and remove. Good if the nipples are even with the rim
- floor and there are no exposed spoke ends.
-
- Disadvantages:
-
- Stretch too easily and allow exposed nipple ends to rub through the
- tape and then through the tape.
-
- Rubber strips Good Experiences: 0 Bad Experiences: 2
-
- Cloth tapes woven of multi-directional fibers:
-
- Advantages:
-
- Easy to install. Do not fail under preassure.
-
- Disadvantages:
-
- They are a sticky tape and care must be taken not to pick up dirt if
- they need to be removed and re-installed.
-
- Velox Good Experiences:11 Bad Experiences: 0
-
- Velox rim tape comes in three different widths. Be sure to get the
- widest tape that covers the floor of the rim without extending up the
- walls of the rim. The stem hole may need to be enlarged to allow the
- stem to seat properly. Otherwise the stem may push back into the tube
- under preassure and cause a puncture at the base of the stem.
-
- Non-commercial rim tapes
-
- Fiberglass packing tape (1 or 2 layers)
-
- Advantages:
-
- Cheap. Readily available. Easy to install.
-
- Disadvantages:
-
- Impossible to remove. If access to the nipples is required, the tape
- must be split and then either removed and replaced or taped over.
-
- Fiberglass packing tape Good Experiences: 1 Bad Experiences: 1
-
- Duct tape (hey, someone tried it!!)
-
- Advantages:
-
- CHEAP. Readily available.
-
- Disadvantages:
-
- Useless. Becomes a gooey mess that is impossible to remove.
-
- Duct tape Good Experiences: 0 Bad Experiences: 1
-
- CONCLUSION
-
- While plastic tapes are easy to work with, they often fail. The clear
- winner in this survey is the Velox woven cloth tape. A quick review of
- mail order catalogs confirms the experiences of the net. Velox was
- available in 5 out of 5 catalogs checked. It was the only rim tape
- available in 3 of the catalogs. The other 2 had one or two plastic
- tapes available. (None sold duct tape...)
-
- One good suggestion was a preassure rating for rim tapes much like the
- preassure rating of tires.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.11 Talcum Powder for Tubes and Tires
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 16:54:17 PST
-
- > I've been told since my first bike that I should liberally dust the
- > tube in talcum powder before installing it. I've believe that this
- > may have reduced the number of flats I've had recently.
-
- Talcum is one of the more durable urban legends. There is no benefit
- in putting talcum or substitute powder on a tube or in a tire. The
- practice has come to bicycle tires the same way tire treads that are
- miniature replicas of automobile treads have... if it's good for cars,
- it must be good for bicycles. Trucks (and formerly cars) use talcum
- or graphite powder between tire and tube, because without it, the two
- can vulcanize from the heat of rolling. This often makes tube removal
- destructive, leaving tube fragments stuck in the tire casing.
-
- Bicycles do not generate enough heat to vulcanize tubes, so they can
- be removed from the tire without problem. Other than that, talcum has
- no effect on punctures other than to release air faster when one
- occurs. A tube stuck to the casing will retain air for a considerable
- distance after a thorn penetration because the thorn that penetrates
- plugs the casing hole leaving the tube hole with no outlet. This is
- especially true for snake bites. I have found such flats the day
- after when they have gone flat over night. Without powder, a tube
- will stick adequately to most clincher tires in about 100 miles.
-
- Corn starch is no better than talcum powder, the only difference being
- that it is water soluble, but then who cares. Talcum also cakes up
- when wet, although it doesn't dissolve.
-
- A tube cannot move in a tire when inflated, regardless of what powder
- is used, because, no translational forces exist, on top of which the
- holding force between tube and casing is large. That talcum prevents
- damage when mounting a tire is also not the case, because the pinch
- occurs when the last part of the bead is being popped onto the rim.
- This can cause a pinch with or without a tire iron, and powder will
- not protect a tube from lying in the gap if it hasn't been pushed into
- the tire adequately.
-
- The reason tubes have talcum powder inside is that in manufacture,
- they become hot enough that, otherwise, they could become inseparably
- stuck when folded. That is why most butyl tubes have talcum inside.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.12 ETRTO numbers for tire sizes
- From: Osman Isvan <osman_isvan@bose.com >
-
- There is nothing wrong with tire/rim compatibility. If
- we...stop calling them with colloquial names such as "26 inch
- wheel", "road wheel", etc., we would be all set.
-
- There is no dimension on a mountain bike rim that is even
- close to 26 inches. The ETRTO number, bead diameter in
- millimeters, is *molded* on the sidewall of the tire (to make
- mislabeling almost impossible) and if it matches, it will
- match. There is nothing confusing, mysterious or misleading or
- complicated about the ETRTO designation. The ETRTO designation
- also includes the width of the tire to be sure it is not too
- narrow or too wide for the rim, but this dimension is not
- accurate as it is not critical.
-
- Common standard bead diameters are 559 mm (ATB), 571 mm
- (Triathlon) and 622 mm (road). They are a reasonable size
- smaller/larger than each other, so what's the problem?
-
- The confusion comes from us (marketers and consumers)
- referring to both the 559 and the 571 standards, and a slew of
- others, as 26" for some reason. The term "26 inch wheel"
- refers to the approximate outside diameter of the inflated
- tire, and has nothing to do with tire/rim compatibility...
-
- This is no different with cars, but in automotive "lingo" the
- colloquial names for wheel sizes are the rim diameter (and
- that's what matters for compatibility), not the tire outside
- diameter. The same car comes with either "13 inch" or "14
- inch" wheel options but the outside diameter of the tire may
- be the same. The rubber part takes up the difference.
- Motorists refer to their RIM SIZE when they talk about wheel
- diameter. A 13 inch tire such as "175/70 R 13" means it will
- fit to a 13 inch rim.
-
- We should do the same. It is possible to build the same
- outside diameter by either using a 26 mm wide tire and 559 mm
- (mountain) rim (ETRTO 26-559) or a 20 mm wide tire on a 571mm
- (triathlon) rim (ETRTO 20-571), and this doesn't imply they
- would be interchangeable. And because the 559 mm (Mountain)
- rims have a diameter of only 22 inches, it takes very fat 2.0
- inch (Mountain) tires to bump them up to 26". Of course they
- wouldn't accept skinny triathlon tires of same thread
- diameter.
-
- When ordering tires, order according to bead diameter (ETRTO
- designation). This will solve any problems with compatibility.
- If the salesperson doesn't understand, ask to look for the
- number which is molded with the casing.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.13 Tires with smooth tread
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:29:59 PST
-
- Drag racers first recognized the traction benefits of slick tires,
- whose benefit they could readily verify by elapsed times for the
- standing start quarter mile. In spite of compelling evidence of
- improved traction, more than twenty years passed before slicks were
- commonly used for racing cars, and another twenty before they reached
- racing motorcycles. Today, slicks are used in all weather by most
- street motorcycles. In spite of this, here at the end of the
- millennium, 100 years after John Dunlop invented the pneumatic tire
- for his own bicycle, bicyclists have not yet accepted smooth tread.
-
- Commercial aircraft, and especially motorcycles, demonstrate that a
- round cross section tire, like the bicycle tire, has an ideal shape to
- prevent hydroplaning. The contact patch, a pointed canoe shape,
- displaces water exceptionally well. In spite of this, hydroplaning
- seems to be a primary concern for riders who are afraid to use smooth
- tires. After assurances from motorcycle and aircraft examples,
- slipperiness on wet pavement appears as the next hurdle.
-
- Benefits of smooth tread are not easily demonstrated because most
- bicycle riders seldom ride near the limit of traction in either curves
- or braking. There is no simple measure of elapsed time or lean angle
- that clearly demonstrates any advantage, partly because skill among
- riders varies greatly. However, machines that measure traction show
- that smooth tires corner better on both wet and dry pavement. In such
- tests, other things being equal, smooth tires achieve greater lean
- angles while having lower rolling resistance.
-
- Tread patterns have no effect on surfaces in which they leave no
- impression. That is to say, if the road is harder than the tire, a
- tread pattern does not improve traction. That smooth tires have
- better dry traction is probably accepted by most bicyclists, but wet
- pavement still appears to raise doubts even though motorcycles have
- shown that tread patterns do not improve wet traction.
-
- A window-cleaning squeegee demonstrates this effect well. Even with a
- new sharp edge, it glides effortlessly over wet glass leaving a
- microscopic layer of water behind to evaporate. On a second swipe,
- the squeegee sticks to the dry glass. This example should make
- apparent that the lubricating water layer cannot be removed by tire
- tread, and that only the micro-grit of the road surface can penetrate
- this layer to give traction. For this reason, metal plates, paint
- stripes, and railway tracks are incorrigibly slippery.
-
- Besides having better wet and dry traction, smooth tread also has
- lower rolling resistance, because its rubber does not deform into
- tread voids. Rubber being essentially incompressible, deforms like a
- water filled balloon, changing shape, but not volume. For a tire with
- tread voids, its rubber bulges under load and rebounds with less force
- than the deforming force. This internal damping causes the energy
- losses of rolling resistance. In contrast the smooth tread transmits
- the load to the loss-free pneumatic compliance of the tire.
-
- In curves, tread features squirm to allow walking and ultimately,
- early breakout. This is best demonstrated on knobby MTB tires, some
- of which track so poorly that they are difficult to ride no-hands.
-
- Although knobby wheelbarrow tires serves only to trap dirt, smooth
- tires may yet be accepted there sooner than for bicycles.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.14 Rolling resistance of Tires
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 17:17:57 PDT
-
- The question often arises whether a small cross section tire has lower
- rolling resistance than a larger one. The answer, as often, is yes
- and no, because unseen factors come into play. Rolling resistance of
- a tire arises almost entirely from flexural rubber losses in the tire
- and tube. Rubber, especially with carbon black, as is commonly used in
- tires, is a high loss material. On the other hand rubber without
- carbon black although having lower losses, wears rapidly and has
- miserable traction when wet.
-
- Besides the tread, the tube of an inflated tire is so firmly pressed
- against the casing that it, in effect, becomes an internal tread.
- The tread and the tube together absorb the majority of the energy lost
- in the rolling tire while the inter-cord binder (usually rubber) comes
- in far behind. Tread scuffing on the road is even less significant.
-
- Patterned treads measurably increase rolling resistance over slicks,
- because the rubber bulges and deforms into tread voids when pressed
- against the road. This effect, tread squirm, is mostly absent with
- smooth tires because it cannot be bulge laterally by road contact
- because rubber, although elastic, is incompressible.
-
- Small cross section tires experience more deformation than a large
- cross section tire and therefore, should have greater rolling
- resistance, but they generally do not, because large and small cross
- section tires are not identical in other respects. Large tires nearly
- always have thicker tread and often use heavier tubes, besides having
- thicker casings. For these reasons, smaller tire usually have lower
- rolling resistance rather than from the smaller contact patch to which
- it is often attributed.
-
- These comparative values were measured on various tires over a range
- of inflation pressures that were used to determine the response to
- inflation. Cheap heavy tires gave the greatest improvement in rolling
- resistance with increased pressure but were never as low as high
- performance tires. High performance tires with thin sidewalls and
- high TPI (threads per inch) were low in rolling resistance and
- improved little with increasing inflation pressure.
-
- As was mentioned in another item, tubular tires, although having lower
- tire losses, performed worse than equivalent clincher tires because
- the tubular's rim glue absorbs a constant amount of energy regardless
- of inflation pressure. Only (hard) track glue absolves tubulars of
- this deficit and should always be used in timed record events.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.15 Wiping Tires
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:02:23 PDT
-
- Although the tire wiping has mostly gone the way of the tubular tire,
- some riders have remained believers in this practice, that never had
- any validity in the first place. It is purportedly done to prevent
- punctures by wiping off glass that may have "stuck" to the tire.
-
- If one considers the rotation rate of a wheel in typical bicycling,
- about 15-20mph, it comes to about 3.5 revolutions per second. When
- observing a tire wiper, the time between noticing hazardous debris on
- the road and the first wipe is more than a second. Hence, any glass
- or other small object would be firmly pressed into the tire by four
- revolutions and all exposed glass edges chipped off. By the time the
- other tire is wiped several more seconds will have passed. If the
- glass is not thoroughly embedded by then it will not enter the tire.
-
- This is not to say that particles embedded in a tire always cause a
- leak immediately, but that they are irrecoverably in the tire at that
- time. Those who have patched flats from glass will recall that the
- piece of glass is not easily found, especially if the location of the
- puncture is not known. The embedded chip is usually imperceptible
- when wiping the hand over the place even when known.
-
- On the other hand, the rear wheel is more subject to flats than the
- front, because flat objects must first be tipped up to engage a tire
- to have any effect. Wiping the rear tire on common short frame
- bicycles is hazardous, because the fingers can be sucked into the
- narrow gap between tire and seat tube to cause serious injury.
-
- Carefully considered, tire wiping is an idle gesture, reassuring to
- some riders, and impressive to others if deftly executed. I recall as
- a beginner that learning all the tics of bicycle racing was important.
- Wiping tires was one of these. Forget it.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.17 Clinchers vs. Tubulars
- From: F.J. Brown <F.Brown@massey.ac.nz>
-
- D.H.Davis@gdt.bath.ac.uk gave some useful hints on mounting clinchers,
- mostly involving the use of copious quantities of baby powder, and
- trying to convince me that clinchers aren't difficult to mount, so ease of
- mounting isn't a valid reason for preferring tubulars.
-
- wernerj@lafcol.lafayette.edu wrote that although average tubulars ride
- 'nicer' than average clinchers, there are some clinchers around that ride
- just as 'nice'. He also said that ease of change isn't a good reason for
- preferring tubulars as if you flat in a race, you're either going to swap
- a wheel or drop out. He pointed out that tubulars end up costing $20 -
- $80 per flat.
-
- ershc@cunyvm.cuny.edu gave some of the historic reasons that tubulars were
- preferred: higher pressures, lower weight, stronger, lighter rims. Said
- that only a few of these still hold true (rim strength/weight, total weight),
- but he still prefers the 'feel' of tubulars.
-
- leka@uhifa.ifa.hawaii.edu started this thread with his observations on
- clinchers seperated from their rims in the aftermath of a race crash.
-
- stek@alcvax.pfc.mit.edu comments on improperly-glued tubulars posing a threat
- to other racers by rolling off, and noted that this couldn't happen with
- clinchers.
-
- jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org agreed with stek, with the additional note that
- it is inadequate inflation that often allows tubulars to roll.
-
- Kevin at Buffalo agreed with stek and jobst about tubulars (improperly or
- freshly glued) sometimes rolling.
-
- ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu says he uses clinchers for cost and convenience.
- Clinchers let him carry around a tiny patch kit and some tyre irons, costing
- 60c, whereas tubulars would require him to carry a whole tyre, and would
- cost more.
-
- CONCLUSIONS: THE CLINCHER VS. TUBULAR WAR
- Tubulars - used to be capable of taking higher pressures, had lower weight
- and mounted onto stronger, lighter rims than clinchers. Clinchers
- have now largely caught up, but many cyclists thinking hasn't.
- Tubular tyre + rim combination still lighter and stronger.
- - are easier to change than clinchers. This matters more to some
- people than others - triathletes, mechanical morons and those
- riding in unsupported races.
- - cost megabucks if you replace them every time you puncture.
- ***However*** (and none of the North Americans mentioned this)
- down here in Kiwiland, we ***always*** repair our punctured
- tubulars (unless the casing is cut to ribbons). The process
- doesn't take much imagination, you just unstitch the case, repair
- the tube in the normal manner using the thinnest patches you can
- buy, stitch it back up again and (the secret to success) put a
- drop of Superglue over the hole in the tread.
- - can roll off if improperly glued or inflated. In this case, you
- probably deserve what you get. Unfortunately, the riders behind
- you don't.
-
- Clinchers - can be difficult to change (for mechanical morons) and are always
- slower to change than tubulars. Most people still carry a spare
- tube and do their repairs when they get home.
- - are cheaper to run: if you puncture a lot clinchers will probably
- still save you money over tubulars, even if you repair your
- tubulars whenever possible. Tubulars are only repairable most
- of the time, you virtually never write off a clincher casing due
- to a puncture.
- - have improved immensely in recent years; top models now inflate
- to high pressures, and are lighter and stronger than they used
- to be. Likewise clincher rims. Some debate over whether
- tubulars are still lighter and tubular rims stronger. Probably
- depends on quality you select. No doubt that high quality
- clinchers/rims stronger, lighter and mor dependable than cheap
- tubular/rim combination.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.18 Tubular Fables
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:38:07 -0800 (PST)
-
- > Why is it better to deflate tubulars between rides or is this just a
- > silly rumor?
-
- Yes and no. The "rumor" arises from a misunderstanding. Track tires,
- that are most often still tubulars, are generally inflated to more
- than 10 bar and are dangerous if they were to explode. Good track
- tires, unlike road tires, are often made of silk with fine and thin
- strands that are not coated or otherwise protected.
-
- I have seen these tires get touched by another rider's pedal and
- explode, or even when carelessly laid on any angular object, they can
- burst because only breaking a few cords is enough to start a burst.
- For this reason track tires are best deflated to less than half their
- running pressure when not in use. I can still vividly hear the sound
- of a tire exploding in an indoor track although I heard it only a few
- times years ago. It is not something you would like to have happen in
- your car or room.
-
- The reasons people give for deflating tubulars are generally false and
- are given for lack of understanding. This is what makes it sound like
- an old wive's tale. Most people do it just to be doing what they
- think is "professional" when in fact the protected sidewalls and
- pressure of most road tubulars makes deflation as meaningless for them
- as it is for clinchers.
-
- > What advantage is there in aging tubulars?
-
- None! The aging concept arose from the same source as the "steel
- frames need to be replaced because they get soft with age" concept.
- Both were intended to improve sales during the off (winter) season by
- bike shops with too much inventory on their shelves. Tires oxidize,
- outgas, and polymerize from ultraviolet light. The concept of a tire
- manufacturer making a tire that cannot be used until ripened for six
- months from the date of purchase is ridiculous. Tires can be made to
- any specification at the factory. Tires are most flexible and durable
- when they are new. They don't improve with time and exposure to heat,
- light, and oxygen or ozone.
-
- "Over-aged" tubular tires, have crumbling hard brown latex on their
- sidewalls that exposes separating cords directly to weather and wear
- and they have treads crack when flexed. Considering that this is a
- continuous process, it is hard to explain where, in the time from
- manufacture to the crumbly condition, the optimum age lies. The claim
- that tires are lighter after aging is true. Their elastomers have
- evaporated making the tire brittle and weak.
-
- Purchasing tubular tires in advance to age them is unwise, although if
- there is a supply problem, tubular tires bought in advance should be
- sealed tightly in airtight bags and kept in the dark, optimally in a
- freezer. For best results, use new tires because aged tires are only
- as good as how little they have aged.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.19 Tubular Tire Repair
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:07:38 PDT
-
- Opening the Tire
-
- The tire casing must be opened to gain access to patch the tube. To
- do this, open the casing by peeling the base tape back and unstitching
- the seam. If this is a seamless tire, chuck it. There are two types
- of seams, zipper stitch (using one thread) and two thread stitch. The
- zipper stitch is identified by having only one thread. It appears to
- make a pattern of slanted arrows that point in the direction in which
- it can be 'unzipped'.
-
- Never open more tire than is necessary to pull the tube out of the
- casing. Remember, the tube is elastic and can be pulled a long way
- from a three cm long opening. Even if there are two punctures not too
- far apart, the tube can be pulled out of a nearby opening. However,
- to insert a boot requires an opening of about 6 to 10 cm at the
- location of the cut or rupture, about the length of the boot (at least
- 10cm) and a couple of cm more.
-
- Base Tape
-
- Never cut the base tape because it cannot be butt joined. Always pull
- it to one side or separate it where it is overlapped. Do not cut the
- stitching, because it takes more time to pull out the cut thread than
- to pull it out in one piece. When working on the stem, only unstitch
- on one side of the stem, preferably the side where machine finished.
- Use latex to glue down loose threads on a sidewall cut. Paint the
- exposed casing zone that is to be covered by the base tape and the
- tape with latex emulsion, allow to partially dry and put the tape in
- place. Put the tire on a rim and inflate hard.
-
- Seam Ripper and Triangular Needle
-
- A convenient tool, available in the sewing department at most
- department and sewing specialty stores is a seam ripper. This and the
- triangular sewing needle from a Velox patch kit are two highly useful
- tools for tubular repair, scissors and razor blades being common
- household items.
-
- Zipper Stitch
-
- Cut the thread at some convenient place at the upstream end of the
- intended opening and with a blunt awl, like a knitting needle, pull
- out several stitches in the direction the stitch pattern points. When
- enough thread is free to pull on, the stitching can be opened like a
- zipper. When enough seam is open, thread the loose end through the
- last loop and pull tight, to lock the zipper. Don't cut off the free
- end because it is often good enough to re-sew the seam.
-
- Two Thread Stitch
-
- One of the threads makes a zig zag as it locks the other thread where
- it penetrates the tire casing. Cut both threads near the middle of
- the opening and, with a blunt awl like a knitting needle, pull out
- only the locking thread in both directions, stitch at a time. The
- locking thread is the one that is easier to pull out. Remove as many
- stitches as the opening requires. The other thread pulls out like a
- zipper. Tie a square knot with the loose ends at both ends of the
- opening and cut off the rest.
-
- Patching
-
- Patch butyl (black) tubes using patches from a bicycle patch kit.
-
- To patch a latex tube, make patches from an old latex tube that are
- fully rounded and just large enough to cover the hole plus five mm.
- For instance, a thorn hole takes a 10 mm diameter patch. Use Pastali
- rim glue (tire patch glue also works but not as well) wiped thinly
- onto the patch with your finger. Place the patch on the tube
- immediately and press flat. Latex will pass the volatile solvent
- allowing the glue to cure rapidly with good adhesion to the tube.
-
- Casing Repair
-
- Repairing tubular tires requires latex emulsion. You can get it from
- carpet layers, who usually have it in bulk. You must have a container
- and beg for a serving. If you are repairing a tubular you probably
- ride them, and therefore, will have dead ones lying around. The best
- tubulars generally furnish the best repair material.
-
- Most cuts of more than a few cords, like a glass cut, require a
- structural boot. With thin latex tubes, uncovered casing cuts will
- soon nibble through the tube and cause another flat. For boot
- material, pull the tread off a silk sprint tire, unstitch it and cut
- off the bead at the edge of the fold. Now you have a long ribbon of
- fine boot material. Cut off a 10cm long piece and trim it to a width
- that just fits inside the casing of the tire to be booted from inside
- edge of the bead (the folded part) to the other edge.
-
- The boot must be trimmed using a razor blade to a thin feathered edge
- so that the tube is not exposed to a step at the boot's edge,
- otherwise this will wear pinholes in a thin latex tube. Apply latex
- to the cleaner side of the boot and the area inside the tire,
- preferably so the boot cords are 90 degrees from the facing tire
- cords.
-
- Insert the boot and press it into place, preferably in the natural
- curve of the tire. This makes the the boot the principal structural
- support when the tire is again inflated, after the boot cures. If the
- casing is flat when the boot is glued, it will stretch the casing more
- than the boot upon inflation. After the boot dries, and this goes
- rapidly, sew the tire.
-
- Valve Stem Replacement
-
- This depends on the type of tube. Latex tubes and some of the others
- have a screwed in stem that has a mushroomed end on the inside and a
- washer and nut on the outside. These are easily replaced from another
- tire whose tube is shot. Open the old ruined tire at the stem, loosen
- the nut, lift the washer and pull out the stem.
-
- Open the tire to be repaired on one side of the stem, preferably the
- side where sewing ended, the messier side, and loosen the base nut,
- lift the washer, wet the stem at the tube opening with saliva and
- twist it until it turns freely. Pull it out carefully and insert the
- replacement stem after wetting its mushroom with saliva. Tire
- stores have a soapy mixture called "Ru-glide" or the like to do the
- wetting but it cost a lot more than spit and doesn't work any better.
-
- Tube Replacement
-
- To replace the entire tube, open the tire on one side of the stem, the
- side that seems to be easier to re-sew after the repair. Open about
- eight to ten cm the usual way, so that the old tube can be pulled out
- by the stem. Cut the tube and attach a strong cord to the loose end
- of the tube to be pulled through the casing by the old tube as you
- pull it out.
-
- Cut the "new" latex tube about 8-10 cm away from the stem, tie the
- cord onto the loose end and pull it gently into the casing. Dumping
- some talc into the casing and putting talc onto the tube helps get the
- tube into place. With the tube in place, pull enough of it out by
- stretching it, to splice the ends together.
-
- Splicing the Tube
-
- This procedure works only with latex tubes. Overlap the tube ends so
- the free end goes about one cm inside the end with the stem. With the
- tube overlapped, use a toothpick to wipe Pastali rim cement into the
- interface. The reason this MUST be done in place is that the solvent
- will curl the rubber into an unmanageable mess if you try this in free
- space. Carefully glue the entire circumference and press the joint
- together by pressing the tube flat in opposing directions. Wait a
- minute and then gently inflate to check the results. More glue can be
- inserted if necessary if you do not wait too long.
-
- Sewing the Tire
-
- Sewing machines make holes through the bead that are straight across
- at a regular stitch interval. For best results, use the original
- stitch holes when re-sewing. Use a strong thread (one that you cannot
- tear by hand) and a (triangular) needle from a Velox tubular patch kit
- (yes I know they are scarce). Make the first stitch about one stitch
- behind the last remaining machine stitch and tie it off with a noose
- knot.
-
- With the beads of the tire pressed against each other so that the old
- holes are exactly aligned, sew using a loop stitch pulling each stitch
- tight, going forward two holes then back one, forward two, back one,
- until the seam is closed. This is a balanced stitch that uses one
- thread and can stretch longitudinally.
-
- Gluing Tire to Rim
-
- For road tires, that are intended to be manually mounted and replaced
- on the road, tires with a rubberized base tape are preferred because
- these are easily and securely mounted by applying a coating of glue to
- the rim, allowing it to harden and mounting the tire to be inflated
- hard so that it will sink in and set.
-
- Because road tires are intended to be changed on the road, they use a
- glue that does not completely harden and allows reuse for mounting a
- spare.
-
- Track tires, in contrast can be mounted using hardening glue such as
- shellac or bicycle tire track glue. This glue is best suited for base
- tapes that are "dry" cloth. The tire is mounted either with a light
- coating of track glue on the base tape or un-glued onto a good base of
- track glue whose last coat is still soft on the rim, into which the
- tire will set when inflated upon mounting. Hard glue prevents rolling
- resistance otherwise generated by the gummy road glue. Track glue is
- primarily useful for record attempts where every effort is needed.
-
- Mounting a Tubular
-
- The most effective and fastest way to mount a tubular is to place the
- rim upright on the ground, stem hole up; insert the valve stem of the
- tire and with both hands stretch the tire with downward force to
- either side, working the hands downward to the bottom of the rim
- without allowing the tire to slacken. Try this before applying rim
- glue on a dry rim and inflate the tire hard so that afterward,
- mounting is easier on the glued rim.
-
- Note that inflation pressure causes the tire to constrict until the
- cord plies are at about 35 degrees. This effect helps retain the tire
- on the rim in use. Therefore, do not inflate a tire to mount it.
- Tubulars should generally not be inflated off a rim because this
- deforms the tire and base tape adversely, possibly shearing the
- inter-ply adhesion and loosening the base tape and stitching.
-
- Now that you know everything there is to know about this, get some
- practice. It works, I did it for years.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.20 Gluing Sew-up Tires
- From: Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
-
- [More up to date copies of Roger's articles can be found at
- http://www.roble.com/marquis/]
-
- Davis criterium, it's hot, hot, hot. The pace is fast and the
- corners sharp. Inevitably some riders are going to roll tires,
- happens every year. What can you do to insure that your sew-up
- tires stay glued when the mercury rises?
-
- There is no one cause of poor tire-rim adhesion so let's start at
- the beginning, new rims and tires. Most rims are shipped with a
- coating of anti-corrosive substances that closely resemble grease.
- This has to be thoroughly removed with solvent and a clean rag
- before you can put down the first coat of glue. Fast Tack is not
- the best glue to use on a bare rim. Instead try Clement, Wolber or
- one of the other slower drying glues. Put a thin coat of glue all
- the way around and leave the wheel(s) to dry for at least 12 hours.
-
- While this glue is drying you might check your tires for any latex
- that might be covering the base tape. If there is any latex at all
- give it a good roughing up with coarse sandpaper before coating it
- with a thin layer of standard glue or Fast Tack. This too should
- be left to dry for a few hours. If you're a light rider or don't
- plan on doing any hard cornering on hot days you can usually leave
- out this step but always roughen the latex on the base tape.
-
- After the base coat of glue has dried it's time for the adhesive
- layer. This should be thicker than the first layer but not so
- thick that it can squeeze out from under the tire when you mount it
- and get on the rim and sidewalls. If you are using a traditional
- style road glue let it dry for ten to fifteen minutes before
- putting your tires on. Tires should be mounted on Fast Tacked rims
- immediately.
-
- New tires usually need a good stretching before they will go onto
- the rim without tending to roll and get glue all over them. I
- usually stretch a tire by pulling it around my knees and feet for
- a few seconds and then mounting it on an old rim for a while. You
- might want to try mounting the tire on a dry rim first to see just
- how much stretching it will need.
-
- If you used traditional sew-up glue you should wait at least 12
- hours before doing any serious cornering. If you need to race
- right away you can use Fast Tack and corner confidently within an
- hour. Be sure to spread the glue evenly over the surface of the
- rim using your finger or a brush. To get the last section of tire
- onto the rim without making a mess grab the remaining 3 or 4 inches
- and lift the tire away from and over the rim. This can be
- difficult if you forget to stretch it beforehand.
-
- Some glues work better than others in hot weather. Fast Tack works
- best followed by Wolber and Vittoria with Clement in the middle and
- Tubasti at the bottom of the list.
-
- When buying Fast Tack be sure you get the real thing. 3-M sells
- other trim adhesives in boxes nearly identical to Fast Tack. These
- trim adhesives do not work for bicycle tires! Be careful that
- whatever glue you do use has not separated in its tube. If it has,
- take a spoke and stir it up before you squeeze it out. I have also
- heard of mixing different glues before application. This is a
- dangerous shortcut that yields unpredictable results. Fast Tack
- and Clement are the most popular tire adhesives. Even though Fast
- Tack will dry out you can get a few tire changes between
- replications if you have a good layer of traditional glue on the
- rim underneath it. Racing tires though, should be reglued each
- time. Base tapes can come apart from the tire in hot weather and
- underinflation can cause tires to roll as well. Check these things
- as well as the tread for wear or cuts before every race and you'll
- be able to descend and corner with confidence.
-
- Roger Marquis (marquis@roble.com)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.21 Another way to glue sewup tires
- From: "Mike & Joanna Brown" <mjbrown1@airmail.net>
- Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 21:49:53 CDT
-
- I have been racing for 6 years now and have tried multiple tire/rim
- combinations. I have come to the conclusion that good tubular tires on a
- pair of good carbon fiber rims provide the ultimate ride. But many people
- dislike tubular tires because of the gluing process and the possibility of
- rolling the tire during fast cornering.
-
- I decided to write this article because of the three to four racers who
- rolled a tire at the recent Baylor/Mirage sponsored criterium. Rolling a
- tire at anytime during race can be catastrophic. Everyone has their "best"
- way of gluing a tire. I can assure you, this is by far the best and SAFEST
- way to glue a tire to prevent it from rolling during any type of cornering
- at any speed. I took this process out of Cycling USA last year and now
- follow it religiously when gluing my own tires. This gluing process was
- far superior to the manufacturers recommended process in regards to bond
- strength at tire/rim interface. We will briefly discuss the following; 1)
- The glue 2) Mounting tubulars to new rims 3) Mounting tubulars to used
- rims.
-
- Not all glues are the same. Especially in Texas! The temperature outside
- may be 90 to 100 degrees, but the surface you are racing on may be 150 to
- 160 degrees. You definitely want a glue that sets up hard in hot weather.
- If not, as the temperature increases the glue/bond gets softer/weaker and
- chances of roll off and serious injury increase. The article listed seven
- glues in this order of strongest to weakest tire/rim bond; Vittoria Mastik'
- One, Continental, Wolbar, SM Fast Track, Vittoria Gutta, Pana Cement and
- Clement. I prefer clear glues. That way if you screw up its very
- difficult to tell. With colored glues, if you screw up everyone knows.
- Also for your information I use Pana Cement. It does not provide the
- strongest bond, but it sets up perfectly in all extremes of hot weather and
- it takes one hell of a finger bleeding effort to get the tire off the rim.
-
- Gluing tubulars to new rims properly should take about 84 hours. Here's
- the process. Test mount the tubular to a dry rim, inflate to 100 psi and
- allow to sit 24 hours. This stretches the tire which will make mounting
- easier and also allow you to inspect the tube and tire for defects (most
- "good" tubulars are hand made). After 24 hours remove the tire. Clean the
- rim with acetone, lacquer thinner or alcohol only. Other types of cleaners
- may leave a film on the rim that cannot be seen by the eye and will
- decrease tire/rim bond strength. Composite rim owners should contact the
- manufacturer for recommended solvents. Roughing the rim surface will not
- improve the bond strength. Gently scrap the base tape on the tire with a
- straight edge to remove any latex. If you scrap a one inch section and the
- appearance of the base tape does not change, then you probably have no
- latex on the base tape and can stop scrapping. But be sure to visually
- inspect the entire base tape just to be sure.
-
- Inflate your tire off the rim until the base tape rolls outward. Apply a
- uniform layer of glue over the entire base tape area. It is best to do
- several tires at this time. You can store those tires not used and
- anticipate that the adhesive bond will remain strong as long as the tire
- surface is kept clean. Apply a uniform layer of glue across the entire
- width of the tire rim gluing surface. The principle bond is at the rim
- edge; therefore, it is critical for performance to ensure that the glue
- reaches the edges of the rim. Allow both to dry for 24 hours. Apply an
- additional coat after that 24 hour period and allow that 2nd coat to dry
- for 12 hours. Apply a third coat. This is the mounting coat. With Pana
- Cement, once the third coat is applied to the tire and rim mount the tire
- immediately. (One tip I would suggest here is before putting glue on the
- rim is to put black electrical tape on the entire outside edge and breaking
- surfaces. This makes for very easy cleaning after the tire is put on.
- Just peal the tape away and all excess glue comes with it and leaves behind
- a nice, clean breaking surface).
-
- Place the rim vertically on a clean, smooth surface with the valve hole at
- the top of the rim. Place the valve stem through the hole and ensure that
- it is properly aligned-straight through the hole (Another tipà For those
- with deep dish rims requiring valve extenders, place a small amount of
- loctite on the tube valve stem threads and then screw the valve extender
- on. This will prevent any leaking at that junction once the tire is glued
- on). Grab the tire 8" away from the valve stem in both directions, pull
- outward with a mighty heave and place the section of tire between your
- hands on the rim. Slide your hands down another few inches down the tire,
- pull and install this section. Once a full 180 degree section of the tire
- has been mounted, turn the wheel over and place the valve stem section down
- vertically on the ground. This is the point where I have my wife hold the
- section of tire I had just put on the rim with two hands at 0 and 180
- degrees. I then grab the tire at the top and turn it so the base tape is
- facing up. At this point I pull up on the tire and roll it onto the top of
- the rim. It's actually very easy with two people.
-
- Once the tire is on the rim, it must be aligned. Inflate the tire to
- about 50 psi so it can be easily "turned" to align. You can either align
- the tire by the tread or by the base tape. Here, I prefer to align my
- tires by the base tape. Higher quality tubulars treads will align
- properly. Lower quality tires were not necessarily made straight, so
- perfect alignment may not be possible. Once aligned, inflate the tire to
- 100 psi and allow to dry for preferably for 24 hours.
-
- When gluing tubulars to used rims, do not remove the old tire until you
- are ready to begin the gluing process as the old tire keeps the rim surface
- clear of debris which would weaken the new tire joint. You must find a
- weak point in the joint and begin removing the old tire. On my Zipp 440's,
- I use a tire lever so I do not damage the rim surface. On aluminum rims
- you can use a flat head screw driver to make it easier. You may glue a new
- tire over the old glue on the rim unless it is not contaminated or old, if
- there is too much glue on the rim or if the remaining glue covers the rim
- only in spots. If one of these conditions applies to your rim, remove the
- old glue with heavy duty furniture stripper. Apply the stripper according
- to the manufactures recommendations. I always put the stripper on and let
- it sit for 30 to 45 minutes and the old glue then wipes away like butter.
- DO NOT wipe the glue along the rim. This causes the old glue and stripper
- to be pushed down into the nipple holes. Wipe across the rim in small
- sections. Once the rim is free of glue, begin the process as described
- above in the article. If you leave the old glue on the rim, apply at
- least one additional coat before installing the tire. To the tire, apply
- at least one coat and let it dry for 24 hours before putting on the
- mounting coat.
-
- In concluding, let me state once again everyone has their "best" way to
- mount tubulars. I can honestly say I have mounted and raced on tubulars
- put on in 24 hours. Those instances are far and few between though. I
- always make a 100% effort to follow the procedure written above if all
- possible. 84 hours seems like a long time to wait just to mount a stupid
- tire. It all comes down to how much you value safety. When it comes to
- the safety of the other riders, not to mention the consequences of roll off
- to my wife and my job, I want to be damn sure I'm as safe as I can possibly
- be because I took the time to do things right!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.22 Folding a Tubular Tire
- From: jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org (Jobst Brandt)
- Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 15:31:33 PDT
-
- Although there are many arcane folds that people devise, it boils down
- to pragmatism. Most spares are used tubulars because those who use
- them typically ride together and for a new rider someone offers a
- spare that gets returned or not at some later time. Therefore, we are
- talking about a previously glued tubular and the point is to prevent
- the whole tire from getting goo all over the tread and sidewalls, so
- you flatten the tire against itself lengthwise with the sticky base
- tape stuck to the sticky base tape. Now you have about a 40 inch long
- flat tire that when folded in half twice makes the typical wad that
- riders carry under their saddles secured by a footstrap.
-
- Footstraps being nearly extinct, I don't know what people use today,
- but whatever it is, it must be tight and secure. If it isn't, the
- tire will jiggle enough to abrade the sidewalls to become a
- pre-packaged blowout, to be installed when you get a flat on the road.
- Don't do it. Most spare bags sold today are not good places to put a
- tubular tire because they will allow the tire to vibrate too much.
-
- It's bad news to ride alone with one spare anyway, so you ought to
- ride with other tubular riders when you go any significant distance
- from appropriate tire service. It's not like carrying a tube and
- patch kit that can go until you run out of patches (you can cut
- patches in half too). The advantage of using tubulars is so marginal
- that the little weight saved is best applied to track and criterium
- racing where its minuscule reduction in rotational inertia can at
- least be argued to have some significance.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.23 Coiling a Wire Bead Clincher
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:00:05 PDT
-
- _____________ _________
- */ \* */ \*
- */ \* *| |*
- */ \* *| |*
- */ \* *| |*
- *| |* _________*|__________/*
- *| |* */ *|
- *| |* *| *|
- push--> *| pull & turn <-- |* *| *|
- *| |* *| *|
- *| |* *\_________*|__________
- *| |* *| \*
- *\ /* *| |*
- *\ /* *| |*
- *\ /* *| |*
- *\_____________/* (*)tread *\_________/*
-
-
- Holding the tire seen edge-on in front of you, pull the front half
- inward while turning that part so the tread faces you, to make the
- figure on the right.
-
- Fold the side loops over one another on top of the central loop. This
- is the way band saws are coiled for storage. The three coil pack must
- be secured to prevent it from springing open again.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.24 Measuring the circumference of a wheel
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- For accuracy, the speedometer wants to know how far the bicycle
- travels per wheel revolution (under normal load and inflation).
- Therefore, that is what must be measured, and it is commonly called
- the "rollout distance". To make this measurement, sit on the bicycle
- in typical riding position next to a wall for support, and roll
- forward, starting with the valve stem exactly at the bottom at a mark
- on the floor. When the stem is again exactly at the bottom, measure
- the distance traveled. Typically this distance, for a 700-28 tire at
- 120 lbs pressure, can be as much as 30 mm shorter under load than
- rolling the unloaded wheel for one revolution.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.25 What holds the rim off the ground?
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- > What forces keep the rim of a wheel with pneumatic tires off the
- > ground. It obviously can't be the air pressure because that's acting
- > from top as well as from below.
-
- As has been pointed out, the casing walls pull on the rim (or its
- equivalent) and thereby support the load. The casing leaves the rim
- at about a 45 degree angle, and being essentially a circular cross
- section, it is in contact with the rim over its inner quarter circle.
- At least this is a good representative model. The visualization may
- be simpler if a tubular tire is considered. It makes no difference
- whether the tire is held on by glue or is otherwise attaches to the
- rim such as a clincher is. Either way the tire is attached to the
- rim, a relatively rigid structure.
-
- Under load, in the ground contact zone, the tire bulges so that two
- effects reduce the downward pull (increase the net upward force) of
- the casing. First, the most obvious one is that the casing pulls more
- to the sides than downward (than it did in its unloaded condition);
- the second is that the side wall tension is reduced. The reduction
- arises from the relationship that unit casing tension is equivalent to
- inflation pressure times the radius of curvature divided by pi. As
- the curvature reduces when the tire bulges out, the casing tension
- decreases correspondingly. The inflated tire supports the rim
- primarily by these two effects.
-
- Tire pressure changes imperceptibly when the tire is loaded because
- the volume does not change appreciably. Besides, the volume change is
- insignificant in small in comparison to the volume change the air has
- undergone when being compressed into the tire. In that respect, it
- takes several strokes of a frame pump to increase the pressure of a
- tire from 100 psi to 101. The air has a low spring constant that acts
- like a long soft spring that has been preloaded over a long stroke.
- Small deflections do not change its force materially. For convenience
- car and truck tires are regularly inflated to their proper pressure
- before being mounted on the vehicle.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.26 Making a tubular tire
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:04:39 PST
-
- The tedious but simple process of hand made tubulars is not much
- different from mechanized manufacture that automates many of the
- steps. Tire casings are made of two crossed layers (plies) of
- side-by-side cords that are not woven as cloth. An elastic binder
- between the layers holds them together and for the high quality
- tubular, that binder is latex rubber.
-
- Fabric for tubular is made on a cylindrical drum about 2m long 20cm in
- diameter, with a narrow 45 degree helical slot from end to end. A
- single layer of thread (cords) is wound onto the rotating drum from
- end to end and coated with latex solution. When dry, the unwoven
- cloth is cut along the 45 degree slot with a razor to produce a 20cm
- wide sheet (long trapezoid) of diagonal cords lying side-by-side at 45
- degrees, held together only by the latex coating.
-
- This band, when folded in half lengthwise, with partially cured latex
- to the inside, will adhere to itself, and make a 10cm wide two ply
- strip. Both edges of this strip are sheared to a desired casing
- width. The ends of this cloth band expose single layer triangles that
- exactly match each other when closed in a loop to make a seamless two
- ply circular band, the tire casing. An 8mm wide selvage, through
- which the tire closure seam will be stitched, is folded, glued and
- sewn along both edges of the casing.
-
- A yellow 0.4-0.8mm wall thickness latex tube, much like rubber
- tourniquets used in blood clinics, is formed into a hoop with a 10mm
- lap joint. A nickel plated brass Presta valve stem, with a 10mm
- diameter, rib faced mushroom end, is inserted into a 3mm diameter hole
- in the tube at its overlap and where it has been reinforced by a
- 20x40mm elliptical rubber with fabric backing reinforcement that
- prevents extrusion when the nut is clamped. A rib-faced washer is
- placed on the protruding stem, secured by a hex nut to produce the air
- seal.
-
- After laying the tube in the casing, a 20mm wide band of soft cloth is
- sewn to the inside of both edges of the channel shaped casing to
- prevent the tube from chafing against the main closure seam. The main
- seam uses one of two common tire stitches. The two thread version
- appears as an "X" pattern down the middle, while the other uses a
- single thread diagonal loop and lock (zipper) stitch, both kinds are
- biased and can change length with the casing. The seam is machine
- sewn, beginning at the valve stem, and is manually finished when it
- again reaches the stem.
-
- A bias weave base tape with a20-30mm overlap near the position of the
- stem is placed on a rim and given a coat of latex as is the tire that
- is mounted on the rim and inflated. The outside of the inflated tire
- is given a coat latex to which the tread that has also been primed
- with latex is applied with a little stretch. The tire is complete.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.27 Things to check after a flat
- From: Toby Douglass <tdouglas@arm.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:31:16 +0100
-
- In the last two months I've had a serious spate of rear tube punctures -
- about twenty and counting now.
-
- I wanted to detail some of the things I've learned that aren't in the FAQ.
-
- 1. It's important to get your rim tape in *the right way up*. I had a
- rubber rim tape which had an "up" face and a down face. The down face had
- two raised edges to help it stay centered in the rim. With the down face
- "up", the edges cut right into the tube and kept puncturing it. When this
- happens, the puncture is a thin slit on the underside of the tube.
-
- 2. Don't use rubber rim tape for pressures over about 60 psi - it deforms
- too much and eventually the buldge your tube forms pushing into the spoke
- hole will rupture - this happened to me. When you examine the tube you'll
- find little buldges which have permanently deformed the tube over the spoke
- hole, and one of them will have a fairly large cut in, where the tube ruptured.
-
- 3. When you've got a new tyre and you're fitting it and a tube to a wheel,
- put the tyre onto the wheel a couple of times, using tyre levers (you'll
- probably have to!) to stretch the tyre a little - it'll help a lot.
-
- 4. When you've had a real puncture, and you're found a stone or somesuch
- which has gone through the tyre, and you're removed the object - *look
- again*. Sometimes a shard will have seperated from the object proper and
- will still be in place - when you inflate the tyre and cycle again it'll
- cause another puncture.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.28 Mounting Tubular Tires
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:01:01 PST
-
- Two kinds of glue are used to secure tubulars to rims, road and track,
- the latter having become uncommon. Over the years many glues have
- been available by: d'Alessandro, Clement, Continental, Michelin,
- Vittoria, Wolber, Pastali, Tubasti, and others. With the decline of
- tubular use, these brands have become so scarce that riders in the USA
- turned to other sources, one of which was 3M Fastack (R) that compares
- favorably with the others and cures faster than most.
-
- Road tubulars preferably should have a rubberized base tape, one
- coated with latex, to improve adhesion to pressure sensitive glues.
- These glues behave similar to typical sticky tapes, sticking better to
- slick surfaces than cloth, so that rubberized base tapes stick better
- to partially dried rim cement than to bare cloth. Do not modify
- tubular base tape with cleaning solvents because they affect rim
- cement adversely. Track tubulars, to be glued with hardening
- adhesive, should have bare cloth base tapes because shellac type track
- glues adhere poorly to rubberized tape. Hardening glue is used on
- track tires to avoid rolling losses typical of pressure sensitive rim
- cements.
-
- Because road tires are intended to be changed on the road, their glue
- must be manually separable and reusable; it must be sticky. However,
- being gooey, it allows the tire to squirm on the rim, which causes
- rolling losses independent of inflation pressure. That road tires
- move on the rim is apparent from the aluminum oxide (dark grey) that
- invades rim cement during use and cloth textured wear marks from base
- tape in the rim.
-
- Mounting the Tire
-
- Stretch the new tubular tire on an old rim, inflate hard and let stand
- while applying cement to the rim on which the tire is to be mounted.
- Rim cement dries fairly rapidly, some faster than others. If this is
- a low viscosity rim glue, it may require more than one coat. Apply
- additional coats when the previous one has become firm enough to not
- draw strings when pressing the finger into it.
-
- When a good coating (0.5mm) of rim glue has set enough to be firm to
- the touch, deflate and remove the tire from the stretching rim and
- mount it on the glued. With the wheel standing upright on the floor,
- start by inserting the valve stem into the rim and stretch the tire,
- pulling down with the hands to both sides away from the stem, working
- around the rim until reaching the bottom with only a short section of
- tire not yet in place. Lift the wheel and thumb the remaining section
- onto the rim. Inflate the tire enough for it to take shape, centering
- it on the rim before inflating hard.
-
- Were the glue still soft and mobile, it would get on the sidewalls
- while mounting the tire. Glue should be firm enough to not make a
- mess. Because pressure sensitive glues are also thermally sensitive,
- heat from braking, while descending montians, often melts rim glue
- enough to make it flow from under the tire in contrast to hard (track)
- glue. While track glue (Tipo Pista) is more cumbersome to use, it has
- its benefits for heat but primarily for timed events where fractions
- of a second make a difference.
-
- Mounting track tires is done the same way as with road glue only that
- it takes several coats of shellac, the last of which must not be
- allowed to dry, so the bare cloth rim strip will be wet by the glue as
- the tire is inflated. Mounting the tire cleanly is more difficult and
- removing the tire sometimes requires tire irons.
-
- ------------------------------
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8b.29 Presta vs Schrader valves
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:42:55 -0800 (PST)
-
- Many valve types have come along since the invention of the pneumatic
- tire but for bicycles mainly Presta and Schrader remain in use. The
- Presta valve is the more slender of the two and is slightly more
- cumbersome to use, having a lock nut instead of a spring to ensure
- closure. However, these two features have kept the Presta valve in
- use on many bicycles.
-
- In the past, sports and racing bicycles used Presta valves because
- they are slender and enabled racers to inflate tires with a simple
- pump with attached chuck (pump head) and no hose. Presta valves are
- easier to pump than Schrader, because they have no valve spring to
- overcome. Although a valve depressor for Schrader valves could
- alleviate this, it would require a check valve, impractical to house
- in lightweight pump heads.
-
- The small diameter of the Presta valve requires a smaller hole in the
- rim, whose size is important for narrow rims where cross sectional
- strength of is significantly reduced by a stem hole. In narrow rims,
- clincher tires also leave insufficient space between tire beads for
- larger Schrader valves.
-
- In contrast Schrader valves are more robust, universally used, and
- have an easily removable core. Spring closure makes them simpler to
- use because one needs only to press the inflation chuck onto them at
- an automobile service station. For hand pumps, a screwed or lever
- chuck provides the valve depressor. The depressor not only makes
- inflation easier but is necessary to read back pressure in the tire.
-
- Although Presta valves have been made with removable cores, demand is
- so small that they are uncommon. Removable Presta cores can be
- identified by two wrench flats on the coarse valve cap threads.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c Tech Wheels
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.1 Stress Relieving Spokes
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:13:28 PST
-
- > I wonder if "stress-relieving" is entirely correct? I see it as a
- > yielding/hardening process, in which the yield load is increased by
- > embedding the spoke elbow in the hub, bending the elbow to a
- > different angle, etc. When unloaded from a high load, this area of
- > the spoke should be more or less elastic.
-
- > So I think the term should be "overloading" or "hardening" -- any
- > thoughts?
-
- Yes. It appears that the process of stress relieving is obscure to
- many if not most people, because after seeming to have made it clear,
- comments like the above surface. Spokes are cold formed from wire
- that is (at least DT) as hard and work hardened as it can become.
- Tensioning does not further harden spokes, there being no plastic
- deformation. Besides, wire ductility is important in both forming
- spokes and in use.
-
- The coiled wire from which spokes are made is straightened by running
- it first between rollers staggered in X and then in Y, the wire moving
- in the Z direction. Reverse bending acts as a degausser, having ever
- diminishing excursions that affect ever shallower depths of the wire.
- This stress relieves the wire while removing the curl of being shipped
- in a coil. If it had no curl, releasing its free end on the spool
- would allow it to uncoil explosively into a huge birds nest.
-
- Wire is cut into suitable lengths, the first operation being to cold
- form a spoke head onto one end with one axial blow of a die, after
- which the spoke is cut to a specific length before rolling the thread
- and bending a 100 degree elbow.
-
- Threads, head, and elbow, contain metal that was plastically deformed
- (beyond yield) as well as metal that was elastically deformed, each
- having elastic memory. In these transitions, parts that yielded and
- ones that did not conflict, each wanting to return to or stay in a
- different shape. This is why a spoke bent by hand springs back only
- partially when released.
-
- On lacing spokes into a wheel, elbows are often additionally bent
- (brought to yield), thus remaining at or exceeding yield stress during
- tensioning. Threads also have internal tensile stress besides local
- compressive stress at the threads. The thread core is already in
- tension from the lengthening effect of thread rolling and its stress
- only increases with tensioning.
-
- Therefore, spokes in a newly built wheel have locations where stress
- is near yield, some more so than others. Because fatigue endurance of
- a metal at or near the yield stress is short, cyclic loads in such
- spokes will cause failures at high stress points. In normal use, a
- wheel only unloads spokes, but with spokes near yield, even these
- stress cycles readily cause fatigue failures. Only the lightest
- riders on smooth roads might be spared failures with a wheel whose
- spokes have not been stress relieved.
-
- Stress relieving to relax these high stress points is accomplished by
- over-stressing them in order to erase their memory. It is not done to
- bed the spokes into the hub, as is often stated. Bedding-in occurs
- sufficiently from tension. However, stretching spoke pairs with a
- strong grasp at midspan, can momentarily increased tension by 50% to
- 100%. Because spokes are usually tensioned no higher than 1/3 their
- yield stress, this operation has no effect on the spoke as a whole,
- affecting only the small high stress zones where spokes are near
- yield. By stretching them, these zones relax below yield by as much
- as the overload.
-
- Stress relieving with a light grasp of spoke pairs is worthless, as is
- bouncing the wheel or bending it in a partially opened drawer.
- Pressing axially on the hub, while supporting the rim, requires a
- force larger than is manually possible but is effective for spoking
- machines (except the left side rear spokes that would collapse the
- rim). Another not recommend method, is laying the wheel on the floor
- and walking on it with tennis shoes, carefully stepping on each pair
- of crossed spokes. The method works but bends the rim and is
- difficult to control.
-
- It is STRESS RELIEVING! Even though people insist on calling it
- pre-stressing or seating-in. The wheel is already prestressed when
- tensioned.
-
- Jobst Brandt <jbrandt@hplabs.hp.com>
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.2 Anodized vs. Non-anodized Rims
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:31:32 PDT
-
- Dark anodized rims were introduced a few years ago as a fashionable
- alternative to shiny metal finish, possibly as a response to non
- metallic composites. Some of these rims were touted as HARD anodized
- implying greater strength. Hard anodizing of aluminum, in contrast to
- cosmetic anodizing, produces a porous ceramic oxide that forms in the
- surface of the metal, as much as 1/1000 inch thick, about half below
- the original surface and half above. It is not thick enough to affect
- the strength of the rim but because it is so rigid, acts like a thin
- coat of paint on a rubber band. The paint will crack as the rubber
- stretches before any load is carried by the rubber. Similarly,
- anodizing cracks before the aluminum carries any significant load.
-
- Rims are made from long straight extrusions that are rolled into
- helical hoops from which they are cut to length. Rims are often
- drilled and anodized before being rolled into a hoop and therefore,
- the anodizing is already crazed when the rim is made. Micro-cracks in
- thick (hard) anodizing can propagate into the metal as a wheel is
- loaded with every revolution to cause whole sections of the rim to
- break out at its spoke sockets. In some rims, whole sidewalls have
- separated through the hollow chamber so that the spokes remained
- attached to the inner hoop and the tire on the outer one. In
- contrast, colored anodizing is generally too thin to initiate cracks.
-
- As an example, Mavic MA-2 rims have rarely cracked except on tandems,
- while the identical MA-40 rims, with a relativley thin anodizing, have
- cracked often.
-
- Anodizing is also a thermal and electrical insulator. Because heat is
- generated in the brake pads and not the rim, braking energy must flow
- into the rim to be dissipated to the atmosphere. Anodizing, although
- relatively thin, impedes this heat transfer and reduces braking
- efficiency by raising the surface temperature of the brakes. When
- braking in wet conditions, road grit wears off anodizing on the
- sidewall, an effect that improves braking.
-
- Anodizing is not heat treatment and has no effect on the structural
- properties of the aluminum.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.3 Reusing Spokes
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- >I just bent my wheel and am probably going to need a new one
- >built. Can I reuse my old, 3 months, spokes in the new wheel.
- >The guy at the shop gave me some mumbo jumbo about tensioning or
- >something.
-
- There is no reason why you should not reuse the spokes of your
- relatively new wheel. The reason a bike shop would not choose to do
- this is that they do not know the history of your spokes and do not
- want to risk their work on unknown materials. If you are satisfied
- that the spokes are good quality you should definitely use them for
- you new wheel. The spokes should, however, not be removed from the
- hub because they have all taken a set peculiar to their location, be
- that inside or outside spokes. The elbows of outside spokes, for
- instance, have an acute angle while the inside spokes are obtuse.
-
- There are a few restrictions to this method, such as that new rim
- must have the same effective diameter as the old, or the spokes will
- be the wrong length. The rim should also be the same "handedness"
- so that the rim holes are offset in the correct direction. This is
- not a fatal problem because you can advance the rim one hole so that
- there is a match. The only problem is that the stem will not fall
- between parallel spokes as it should for pumping convenience.
-
- Take a cotton swab and dab a little oil in each spoke socket of the
- new rim before you begin. Hold the rims side by side so that the
- stem holes are aligned and note whether the rim holes are staggered
- in the same way. If not line the rim up so they are. Then unscrew
- one spoke at a time, put a wipe of oil on the threads and engage it
- in the new rim. When they are all in the new rim you proceed as you
- would truing any wheel. Details of this are in a good book on
- building wheels.
-
- The reason you can reuse spokes is that their failure mode is
- fatigue. There is no other way of causing a fatigue failure than to
- ride many thousand miles (if your wheel is properly built). A crash
- does not induce fatigue nor does it even raise tension in spokes
- unless you get a pedal between them. Unless a spoke has a kink that
- cannot be straightened by hand, they can all be reused.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.4 Ideal Tire Sizes
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- > I'm getting a custom frame built and wondered what
- > people thought of using 26 inch road wheels. Smaller
- > wheels ought to be lighter and stronger.
-
- and goes on to list advantages and disadvantages, most of which are less
- that important in deciding what size to use. What in fact brought us
- the wheel size (700 or 27") that we have is better understood by the
- women riders who have a hard time fitting these wheels into their small
- bicycle frames. Wheels would be larger than they are if they would fit
- the average riders bike, but they don't. So the compromise size is what
- we are riding today.
-
- > It seems to me that the most obvious reason for using 27"
- > wheels is tradition, but I'm not sure the advantages make
- > it worth trying to swim upstream. What do you think?
-
- This line of thought is consistent with the "cost be damned" approach
- in bicycling today. The big bucks are spent by people who want the best
- or even better than their peers. The more special the better. Riders
- consistently spend nearly twice the money for wheels and get worse rims
- when they choose anodized ones, whether there is merit to this finish
- is of no interest. They cost more so they must be better. How "custom"
- can you get than to have wheels no one else on the block has (maybe 25"?).
-
- If enough riders ask for 24", 25" and 26" wheels, manufacturers will up
- the price as their product lines multiply and the total sales remain
- constant. Tires and spokes will follow as a whole range of sizes that
- were not previously stocked become part of the inventory. Meanwhile,
- bike frames will come in different configurations to take advantage of
- the special wheel sizes. SIzes whose advantages are imperceptibly small
- but are touted by riders who talk of seconds saved in their last club TT
- or while riding to work.
-
- A larger wheel rides better on average roads and always corners better
- because it brings a longer contact patch to the road. A longer contact
- averages traction over more pavement and avoids slip outs for lack of
- local traction. Visualize crossing a one inch wide glossy paint stripe
- with a 27" wheel and an 18" wheel when banked over in a wet turn.
-
- I see this subject arise now and then and it reminds me of the concept of
- splitting wreck.bike into several newsgroups. The perpetrators bring the
- matter up for many of the wrong reasons.
-
- Ride bike, don't re-invent what has been discarded.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.5 Tied and Soldered Wheels
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:09:03 PST
-
- While writing "the Bicycle Wheel", to conclusively determine what
- effect tying and soldering of spoke crossings in a wheel had, I asked
- Wheelsmith to loan me an untied pair of standard 36 spoke rear wheels,
- on on Campagnolo low and high flange hubs. I had an inner body of a
- freewheel machined with flats so that a wheel could be clamped into
- the vise of a Bridgeport milling machine while the left end of its
- axle was held in the quill.
-
- With the hub rigidly secured, with its axle vertical, dial gauges were
- mounted at four equally spaced locations on the machine bed to measure
- rim deflections as a 35lb weight was sequentially hung on the wheel at
- these positions. The deflections were recorded for each location and
- averaged for each wheel before and after tying and soldering spokes.
-
- The wheels were also measured for torsional rigidity in the same
- fixture, by a wire anchored in the valve hole and wrapped around the
- rim so that a 35 lb force could be applied tangential to the rim.
- Dial gauges located at two places 90 degrees apart in the quadrant
- away from the applied load were used to measure relative rotation
- between the wheel and hub.
-
- Upon repeating the measurements after tying and soldering the spokes,
- no perceptible change, other than random measurement noise of a few
- thousandths of an inch, was detected. The spokes were tied and
- soldered by Wheelsmith who did this as a regular service. The data
- was collected by an engineer who did not know what I expected to find.
- I set up the experiment and delivered the wheels.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.6 Machined rims
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:57:48 -0800 (PST)
-
- > Just wondering if it really makes any difference. Some
- > manufacturers don't even advertise whether the sidewalls are
- > machined; others do. Velocity for example, makes both, but I
- > believe they're the same price. What gives? Just marketing hype?
-
- What you hear and read is mostly marketing hyperbole, but machining
- rims has its reason, and it isn't for your benefit. If you inspect a
- machined rim closely, you'll find a surface that looks as though made
- by a thread cutting tool. The purpose is not to get a flat braking
- surface, but rather to produce a series of fine grooves to prevent
- brake squeal on new bicycle test rides.
-
- The machined grooves, about the texture of LP vinyl record grooves,
- can be felt by running a fingernail across the rim. These fine
- grooves usually wear off on the first braking descent in wet weather,
- the condition that causes rim wear in the first place. Even
- anodizing, which is a hard ceramic, whether thick or thin, is more
- durable than the machined rim. However, anodizing is not the solution
- to wear, because it degrades braking. Anodizing being an insulator
- that overheats brake pads and causes brake fade.
-
- The claim that machining is for purposes other than suppressing brake
- squeal is far fetched. For instance, rim joints have been made with
- no perceptible discontinuity almost as long as aluminum rims have been
- made. Unfortunately, some people in marketing believe that rims will
- separate if not riveted (or welded) and introduced riveting that
- usually distorts rim joints. Fortunately, that rims were made for
- many years without rivets and had flawless joints proves otherwise.
-
- In practice, machining solves the new-rim squeal problem at the cost
- of a rim wall of unknown thickness. It also adds a bit of sparkle to
- the new product by giving rainbow reflections in showrooms. Mavic,
- for instance, has rims listed as having "CERAMIC2", "SUP, "CD", "UB",
- MAXTAL", all features that substantially increase cost over plain
- aluminum rims that were offered at about 1/4 the price not long ago.
-
- The web site explains that "CERAMIC2" is an insulator that improves
- braking even though the rim is "UB" machined, ostensibly for the same
- purpose, before ceramic coating. This is a tipoff, because without
- special brake pads, this feature overheats pads causing them to wear
- rapidly while degrading performance. Not mentioned is that it's main
- purpose is to reduce rim wear in wet and gritty conditions.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8c.7 Wheel Bearing adjustment
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:21:02 -0800 (PST)
-
- Bicycle wheel bearings, as most, require a slight preload so that more
- than one ball under the cone (inner race) will support its load. With
- proper preload, slight drag should be perceptible. Preload drag is
- small compared to drag caused by wheel loads, neither of which are
- significant regardless of adjustment. In contrast bearing life is
- affected by proper adjustment. Adjusting ball bearings to spin freely
- unloaded does not reduce operating friction because a bearing with
- proper preload has lower drag when loaded than one with clearance.
- For high quality bearings, preload should be just enough to cause
- light drag when rotating the axle between thumb and forefinger. Low
- grade bearings will feel slightly lumpy with proper preload.
-
- Wheels with quick release (QR) axles present an additional problem in
- that closing the QR alters bearing clearance. Closing the lever
- requires increasing manual force with a slight over-center feel near
- the end of the stroke. This lever force arises from compressing the
- hollow axle and stretching the skewer. The ratio of elastic length
- change between axle and skewer is that of their cross sectional area
- and active lengths.
-
- Although small, axle compression on QR hubs is large enough to alter
- bearing clearance and should be considered when adjusting bearings.
- Bearings should be adjusted just loose enough so that closing the QR
- leaves the bearing with a slight preload. Excessive preload from QR
- closure is the cause of most wheel bearing failures not caused by
- water intrusion. Clearance, in contrast can be felt as disconcerting
- rattle when encountering road roughness.
-
- To test for proper adjustment, install the wheel and wiggle the rim
- side-to-side to determine that there is no clearance (rattle), then
- let the wheel rotate freely to a stop. If the wheel halts with a
- short (indexed) oscillation, bearing preload is too high.
-
- Although adjusting QR force is a safety consideration, it is also one
- of bearing life. It should be kept at a constant level once the
- desired closure force has been determined. Rear vertical dropouts
- require a lower and more predictable closure force than was formerly
- required with axles that could move forward from chain tension.
- Because vertical dropouts do not rely on friction to resist chain
- load, many hubs now have smooth faced jam nuts that do not damage
- dropout faces as older knurl faced ones did.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d Tech Chains
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d.1 Lubricating Chains
-
- Lubricating chains is a somewhat religious issue. Some advocate oil,
- some Teflon-base lubricants, some paraffin wax. The net majority favors
- a lubricant that does not leave an oily coating on the chain that can
- attract dirt, which will hasten chain/chainring/freewheel sprocket wear.
-
- If you want to use paraffin wax, make sure you melt the wax in a double
- boiler! Failure to do so can lead to a fire. You can use a coffee
- can in a pan of boiling water if you don't want to mess up good cookware.
- After the wax has melted, put the chain in the wax and simmer for 10
- minutes or so. Remove the chain, hang it up, and wipe the excess wax
- off. Let it cool and reinstall on your bike.
-
- When using a liquid lubricant, you want to get the lube onto the pins
- inside the rollers on the chains, not on the outside where it does little
- good. Oilers with the narrow tubes are good for this because you can put
- the lube where you want it. Work the oil into the chain after applying
- it, wipe the chain off, and reinstall on your bike.
-
- A good discussion of chain maintenance is at
-
- http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d.2 Chain care, wear and skipping
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:40:52 -0800 (PST)
-
- Chain wear and care evokes never ending discussions, especially for
- new bicyclists who are not happy with this dirtiest of bicycle parts.
- This leads to the first problem, of whether there is a best (and
- cleanest) way to care for a chain. There are several ways to take
- care of a chain of which some traditional methods are the most
- damaging to the chain and others work to prolong its life.
-
- That grease on a new chain, fresh out of the package, is not a
- lubricant but rather a preservative that must be removed, thrives in
- bicycling myth and lore. This is nonsense because chains are used as
- they are by manufacturers who ship bicycles ready to use. They can
- order chains with any desired lubricant and this is what they use. If
- there is too much on the chain, it can be wiped off.
-
- At the outset the term "chain stretch" is technically wrong and
- misleading. Chains do not stretch, in the dictionary sense, by
- elongating the metal through tension. They lengthen because their
- hinge pins and sleeves wear which is caused almost exclusively by road
- grit that enters the chain when oiled. Grit sticks to the outside of
- a chain in the ugly black stuff that can get on ones leg, but external
- grime has little functional effect, being on the outside where it does
- the chain no harm. Only when a dirty chain is oiled, or has excessive
- oil on it, can this grit move inside to causes damage. Commercial
- abrasive grinding paste is made of oil and silicon dioxide (sand) and
- silicon carbide (sand). You couldn't do it better if you tried to
- destroy a chain, than to oil it when dirty.
-
- Primitive rule #1: Never oil a chain on the bike.
-
- This means the chain should be cleaned of grit before oiling, and
- because this is practically impossible without submerging the chain in
- a solvent bath (kerosene or commercial solvent), it must be taken off
- the bicycle. Devices with rotating brushes, that can be clamped on
- the chain on the bicycle, do a fair job but are messy and do not
- prevent fine grit from becoming suspended in the solvent. External
- brushing or wiping moves grit out of sight, but mainly into the
- openings in the chain where subsequent oiling will carry it inside.
-
- Do not use gasoline because it is explosive and contains toxic light
- petroleum fractions that penetrate skin. Removing the chain from the
- bicycle isn't always possible. There are times (after riding in the
- rain) when a chain screams for oil and good cleaning is impractical.
- In that case rule #1 may be violated for humanitarian reasons.
- However, only an internally clean chain squeaks, so it isn't as bad as
- it sounds. Also, water is a moderately good lubricant, but it
- evaporates soon after the rain stops.
-
- Removing solvent from the chain after rinsing is important.
- Compressed air is not readily available in the household nor is a
- centrifuge. Manually slinging the chain around outdoors works best if
- the chain is a closed loop but without pressing the pin completely in.
- The other way is to evaporate it. Accelerated drying methods by
- heating should be avoided, because they can be explosive.
-
- Lubricating the chain with hot 90W gear lube works but it is also
- efficient fly paper, collecting plenty of hardpack between sprockets
- and on the outside of the chain. Motor oil is far better, but
- motorcycle chain and chainsaw lubricants are better yet, because they
- have volatile solvents that allow good penetration for their
- relatively viscous lubricant. Paraffin (canning wax), although clean,
- works poorly because it is not mobile and cannot replenish the bearing
- surfaces once it has been displaced. This becomes apparent with any
- water that gets on the chain. It immediately squeaks.
-
- Swaged bushing chains
-
- Sedis was the first with its Sedisport (five element) chain to
- introduce swaged bushings, formed into the side plates, to replace
- (six element) chains with full width steel bushings on which the
- rollers and pins bear. Although stronger and lighter than prior
- chains, the five element chain achieves its light weight at the
- expense of durability. These chains, now the only derailleur chains
- available, have only vestigial sleeves in the form of short collars on
- the side plates to support the roller on the outside and the link pin
- on the inside. This design is both lighter and stronger because the
- side plates need not have the large hole for insertion of sleeves.
-
- Pins inside full bushings of (six element) chains were well protected
- against lubricant depletion because both ends were covered by closely
- fitting side plates. Some motorcycle chains have O-ring seals at each
- end. In the swaged bushing design there is no continuous tube because
- the side plates are formed to support the roller and pin on a collar
- with a substantial central gap. In the wet, lubricant is quickly
- washed out of pin and roller and the smaller bearing area of the
- swaged bushing for the pin and roller easily gall and bind when
- lubrication fails. Although this is not a problem for this type of
- chain when dry it has feet of clay in the wet.
-
- Chain Life
-
- Chain life is almost entirely a cleanliness and lubrication question
- rather than a load problem. For bicycles the effect of load
- variations is insignificant compared to the lubricant and grit
- effects. For example, motorcycle primary chains, operated under oil
- in clean conditions, last as much as 100,000 miles while exposed rear
- chains must be replaced often.
-
- The best way to determine whether a chain is worn is by measuring its
- length. A new chain has a half inch pitch with a pin at exactly every
- half inch. As the pins and sleeves wear, this spacing increases,
- concentrating more load on the last tooth of engagement, changing the
- tooth profile. When chain pitch grows over one half percent, it is
- time for a new chain. At one percent, sprocket wear progresses
- rapidly because this length change occurs only between pin and sleeve
- so that it is concentrated on every second pitch; the pitch of the
- inner link containing the rollers remaining constant. By holding a
- ruler along the chain on the bicycle, align an inch mark with a pin
- and see how far off the mark the pin is at twelve inches. An eighth
- of an inch (0.125) is one percent, twice the sixteenth limit that is a
- prudent time for a new chain.
-
- Skipping Chain
-
- Sprockets do not change pitch when they wear, only their tooth form
- changes. The number of teeth and base circle remain unchanged by
- normal sprocket wear.
-
- A new chain often will not freely engage a worn rear sprocket under
- load even though it has the same pitch as the chain. This occurs
- because the previous (worn and elongated) chain formed pockets higher
- on each tooth (a larger pitch diameter) than an in pitch chain
- describes. This wear occurs because a worn chain rides high on the
- teeth. A chain with correct pitch cannot enter the pockets when its
- previous roller bears the previous tooth, because the pocket has an
- overhang that prevents entry.
-
- Without a strong chain tensioner or a non derailleur bicycle, the
- chain has insufficient force on its slack run to engage a driven
- sprocket. In contrast, engagement of a driving sprocket, the crank
- sprocket, generally succeeds even with substantial tooth wear, because
- the drive tension forces engagement.
-
- However, worn teeth on a driving sprocket cause "chainsuck", the
- failure of the chain to disengage. This occurs more easily with a
- long arm derailleur, common to most MTB's, that is one reason this
- occurs less with road racing bicycles, that experience a noisy
- disengagement instead.
-
- In contrast a worn chain will not run on a new driving sprocket. This
- is less apparent because new chainwheels are not often used with an
- old chain. In contrast to a driven (rear) sprocket the chain enters
- the driving (front) sprocket under tension, where the previous chain
- links pull it into engagement. However, because a used chain has a
- longer pitch than the sprocket, previous rollers bear almost no load
- and allow the incoming chain link to climb the ramp of the tooth, each
- successive link riding higher than the previous until the chain jumps.
- The pockets in a used sprocket are small but they change the pressure
- angle of the teeth enough to cause skipping.
-
- Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d.3 Adjusting Chain Length
- From: Bob Fishell <spike@cbnewsd.att.com>
-
- For all Shimano SIS and Hyperglide systems, the chain is sized by shifting to
- the smallest rear cog and the largest front sprocket, then sizing the
- chain so that the derailleur pulleys are on a vertical line, or as close
- as you can get to it. Note that this will result in the same chain length
- for any freewheel within the capacity of the derailleur, so it usually is
- not necessary to re-size the chain for a different cogset with these systems.
-
- The other rule I've used (friction systems) involves shifting to the largest
- chainring and the largest rear cog, then sizing the chain so that the pulleys
- are at a 45 degree angle to the ground.
-
- The rules probably vary from derailleur to derailleur. In general,
- you may use the capacity of the rear derailleur cage as a guideline. You
- want the chain short enough so the cage can take up the slack in the
- smallest combination of chainwheel and rear cog you will use. The chain
- must also be long enough so that the cage still has some travel in the
- largest combination you will use.
-
- For example, if you have a 42x52 crank and a 13x21 freewheel, the smallest
- combination you would use would be a 42/14 (assuming you don't use the
- diagonal). If the cage can take up the slack in this combo, it's short enough.
- If the cage has spring left when you are in the 52/19 combo (again, you are
- not using the diagonal), it's long enough.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d.4 Hyperglide chains
-
- For those of you that are tired of dealing with Shimano's
- chains with the special pins, I've found that the following
- chains work well with Shimano Hyperglide gearing systems:
-
- DID SuperShift
- Sedis ATB
- Union 800
- Union 915
-
- The SuperShift is probably the best performer of the bunch,
- followed by the ATB and 915. The 800 doesn't do too well
- with narrow cogsets (i.e., 8-speeds) because the raised
- elliptical bumps on the side-plates tend to rub on the adjacent
- cogs.
-
- I've also found that these chains work well on SunTour systems.
- The 915, however, works better on PowerFlo cogs than it does
- on regular (AccuShift) cogs (where it tends to slip when shifting).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8d.5 SACHS Power-links
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:38:14 PDT
-
- The SACHS Power-link, can be separated easily alone but not when in a
- chain. The link is designed not to open by axial compression alone,
- typically when a new chain is used on worn sprockets, where skipping
- over teeth can cause inertial compression by the trailing chain. To
- prevent this occurrence, a recess around the head of the stepped pin
- makes more than a half circle, preventing the pin from sliding in its
- slot. That means the side plates of the link must be pressed
- together, taking up side clearance, to raise the head of the sliding
- pin above this retention.
-
- To open the chain, find the link, make an upside down U-shape of the
- chain with the link as the cross bar, the adjacent chain hanging down,
- grasp the link diagonally with pliers across the the corners to which
- the pins are fixed, not the corners with the keyhole slot. Pushing
- the side plates together assists removal but is not essential, the
- diagonal force having a lateral compressive component.
-
- Before using a Power-link, put it together to see why it does not
- readily slide from closed to open position. Road grit makes this even
- more difficult.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e Tech Frames
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.1 Bike pulls to one side
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- For less than million dollar bikes this is easy to fix, whether it corrects
- the cause or not. If a bike veers to one side when ridden no-hands, it
- can be corrected by bending the forks to the same side as you must lean
- to ride straight. This is done by bending the fork blades one at a time,
- about 3 mm. If more correction is needed, repeat the exercise.
-
- The problem is usually in the forks although it is possible for frame
- misalignment to cause this effect. The kind of frame alignment error
- that causes this is a head and seat tube not in the same plane. This
- is not easily measured other than by sighting or on a plane table.
- The trouble with forks is that they are more difficult to measure even
- though shops will not admit it. It takes good fixturing to align a
- fork because a short fork blade can escape detection by most
- measurement methods. Meanwhile lateral and in-line corrections may
- seem to produce a straight fork that still pulls to one side.
- However, the crude guy who uses the method I outlined above will make
- the bike ride straight without measurement. The only problem with
- this is that the bike may pull to one side when braking because the
- fork really isn't straight but is compensated for lateral balance.
-
- This problem has mystified more bike shops because they did not recognize
- the problem. Sequentially brazing or welding fork blades often causes
- unequal length blades and bike shops usually don't question this dimension.
- However, in your case I assume the bike once rode straight so something
- is crooked
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.2 Frame Stiffness
- From: Bob Bundy <bobb@ico.isc.com>
-
- As many of you rec.bicycles readers are aware, there have been occasional,
- sometimes acrimonious, discussions about how some frames are so much
- stiffer than others. Cannondale frames seem to take most of the abuse.
- The litany of complaints about some bike frames is long and includes
- excessive wheel hop, numb hands, unpleasant ride, broken spokes,
- pitted headsets, etc. I was complaining to a friend of mine about how there
- was so much ranting and raving but so little empirical data - to which
- he replied, "Why don't you stop complaining and do the measurements
- yourself?". To that, I emitted the fateful words, "Why not, after all,
- how hard can it be?". Following some consultation with Jobst and a few
- other friends, I ran the following tests:
-
- The following data were collected by measuring the vertical deflection at
- the seat (ST), bottom bracket (BB) and head tube (HT) as a result of
- applying 80lb of vertical force. The relative contributions of the
- tires, wheels, fork, and frame (the diamond portion) were measured using
- a set of jigs and a dial indicator which was read to the nearest .001
- inch. For some of the measures, I applied pressures from 20 to 270 lbs
- to check for any significant nonlinearity. None was observed. The same
- set of tires (Continentals) and wheels were used for all measurements.
- Note that these were measures of in-plane stiffness, which should be
- related to ride comfort, and not tortional stiffness which is something
- else entirely.
-
- Bikes:
-
- TA - 1987 Trek Aluminum 1200, this model has a Vitus front fork, most
- reviews describe this as being an exceptionally smooth riding bike
-
- SS - 1988 Specialized Sirus, steel CrMo frame, described by one review as
- being stiff, hard riding and responsive
-
- DR - 1987 DeRosa, SP/SL tubing, classic Italian road bike
-
- RM - 1988 Cannondale aluminum frame with a CrMo fork, some reviewers
- could not tolerate the rough ride of this bike
-
-
- TA SS DR RM
- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
- ST BB HT ST BB HT ST BB HS ST BB HT
- diamond 1 1 0 2 2 0 2 2 0 1 1 0
- fork 3 11 45 3 9 36 4 13 55 3 10 40
- wheels 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
- tires 68 52 66 68 52 66 68 52 66 68 52 66
- total 74 66 113 75 65 104 76 69 123 74 65 108
-
-
- What is going on here? I read the bike mags and this net enough to know
- that people have strong impressions about the things that affect ride
- comfort. For example, it is common to hear people talk about rim types
- (aero vs. non-aero), spoke size, butting and spoke patterns and how they
- affect ride. Yet the data presented here indicate, just a Jobst predicted,
- that any variation in these factors will essentially be undetectable to
- the rider. Similarly, one hears the same kind of talk about frames,
- namely, that frame material X gives a better ride than frame material Y, that
- butted tubing gives a better ride that non-butted, etc. (I may have even
- made such statements myself at some time.) Yet, again, the data suggest
- that these differences are small and, perhaps, even undetectable. I offer
- two explanations for this variation between the data and subjective reports
- of ride quality.
-
- Engineering:
- These data are all static measurements and perhaps only applicable at the
- end of the frequency spectrum. Factors such as frequency response, and
- damping might be significant factors in rider comfort.
-
- Psychology:
- There is no doubt that these bikes all look very different, especially the
- Cannondale. They even sound different while riding over rough
- roads. These factors, along with the impressions of friends and reviews
- in bike magazines may lead us to perceive differences where they, in fact,
- do not exist.
-
- Being a psychologist, I am naturally inclined toward the psychological
- explanation. I just can't see how the diamond part of the frame contributes
- in any significant way to the comfort of a bike. The damping of the frame
- should be irrelevant since it doesn't flex enough that there is any
- motion to actually dampen. That the frame would become flexible at
- some important range of the frequency spectrum doesn't seem likely either.
-
- On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that people are often very
- poor judges of their physical environment. They often see relationships
- where they don't exist and mis-attribute other relationships. For example,
- peoples' judgement of ride quality in automobiles is more related to the
- sounds inside the automobile than the ride itself. The only way to get
- a good correlation between accelerometers attached to the car seat and
- the rider's estimates of ride quality is to blindfold and deafen the
- rider (not permanently!). This is only one of many examples of mis-
- attribution. The role of expectation is even more powerful. (Some even
- claim that whole areas of medicine are built around it - but that is
- another story entirely.) People hear that Cannondales are stiff and,
- let's face it, they certainly *look* stiff. Add to that the fact that
- Cannondales sound different while going over rough roads and perhaps
- the rider has an auditory confirmation of what is already believed to
- be true.
-
- Unless anyone can come up with a better explanation, I will remain
- convinced that differences in ride quality among frames are more a
- matter of perception than of actual physical differences.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.3 Frame repair
- From: David Keppel <pardo@cs.washington.edu>
-
- (Disclaimer: my opinions do creep in from time to time!)
-
- When frames fail due to manufacturing defects they are usually
- replaced under warranty. When they fail due to accident or abuse
- (gee, I don't know *why* it broke when I rode off that last
- motorcycle jump, it's never broken when I rode it off it before!)
- you are left with a crippled or unridable bike.
-
- There are various kinds of frame damage that can be repaired. The
- major issues are (a) figuring out whether it's repairable (b) who
- can do it and (c) whether it's worth doing (sometimes repairs just
- aren't worth it).
-
- Kinds of repairs: Bent or cracked frame tubes, failed joints, bent
- or missing braze-on brackets, bent derailleur hangars, bent or
- broken brake mounts, bent forks, etc. A frame can also be bent out
- of alignment without any visible damage; try sighting from the back
- wheel to the front, and if the front wheel hits the ground to one
- side of the back wheel's plane (when the front wheel is pointing
- straight ahead), then the frame is probably out of alignment.
-
-
- * Can it be repaired?
-
- Just about any damage to a steel frame can be repaired. Almost any
- damage to an aluminum or carbon fiber frame is impossible to repair.
- Titanium frames can be repaired but only by the gods. Some frames
- are composites of steel and other materials (e.g., the Raleigh
- Technium). Sometimes damage to steel parts cannot be repaired
- because repairs would affect the non-steel parts.
-
- Owners of non-steel frames can take heart: non-steel frames can
- resist some kinds of damage more effectively than steel frames, and
- may thus be less likely to be damaged. Some frames come with e.g.,
- replacable derailleur hangers (whether you can *get* a replacement
- is a different issue, though). Also, many non-steel frames have
- steel forks and any part of a steel fork can be repaired.
-
- Note: For metal frames, minor dents away from joints can generally
- be ignored. Deep gouges, nicks, and cuts in any frame may lead to
- eventual failure. With steel, the failure is generally gradual.
- With aluminum the failure is sometimes sudden.
-
- Summary: if it is steel, yes it can be repaired. If it isn't steel,
- no, it can't be repaired.
-
-
- * Who can do it?
-
- Bent derailleur hangers can be straightened. Indexed shifting
- systems are far more sensitive to alignment than non-indexed. Clamp
- an adjustable wrench over the bent hanger and yield the hanger
- gently. Leave the wheel bolted in place so that the derailleur hanger
- is bent and not the back of the dropout. Go slowly and try not to
- overshoot. The goal is to have the face of the hanger in-plane with
- the bike's plane of symmetry.
-
- Just about any other repair requires the help of a shop that builds
- frames since few other shops invest in frame tools. If you can find
- a shop that's been around for a while, though, they may also have
- some frame tools.
-
-
- * Is it worth it?
-
- The price of the repair should be balanced with
-
- * The value of the bicycle
- * What happens if you don't do anything about the damage
- * What would a new bike cost
- * What would a new frame cost
- * What would a used bike cost
- * What would a used frame cost
- * What is the personal attachment
-
- If you are sentimentally attached to a frame, then almost any repair
- is worth it. If you are not particularly attached to the frame,
- then you should evaluate the condition of the components on the rest
- of the bicycle. It may be cheaper to purchase a new or used frame
- or even purchase a whole used bike and select the best components
- from each. For example, my most recent reconstruction looked like:
-
- * Bike's estimated value: $300
- * Do nothing about damage: unridable
- * Cost of new bike: $400
- * Cost of new frame: $250+
- * Cost of used bike: $200+
- * Cost of used frame: N/A
- * Cost of repair: $100+
- * Personal attachment: zip
-
- Getting the bike on the road again was not a big deal: I have lots
- of other bikes, but I *wanted* to have a commuter bike. Since I
- didn't *need* it, though, I could afford to wait a long time for
- repairs. The cost of a new bike was more than I cared to spend.
- It is hard to get a replacement frame for a low-cost bicycle. I
- did a good bit of shopping around and the lowest-cost new frame
- that I could find was $250, save a low-quality frame in the
- bargain basement that I didn't want. Used frames were basically the
- same story: people generally only sell frames when they are
- high-quality frames. Because the bike was a road bike, I could have
- purchased a used bike fairly cheaply; had the bike been a fat-tire
- bike, it would have been difficult to find a replacement. The cost
- of the frame repair included only a quick ``rattlecan'' spray, so
- the result was aesthetically unappealing and also more fragile. For
- a commuter bike, though, aesthetics are secondary, so I went with
- repair.
-
- There is also a risk that the `fixed' frame will be damaged. I had
- a frame crack when it was straightened. I could have had the tube
- replaced, but at much greater expense. The shop had made a point
- that the frame was damaged enough that it might crack during repair
- and charged me 1/2. I was able to have the crack repaired and I
- still ride the bike, but could have been left both out the money
- and without a ridable frame.
-
-
- * Summary
-
- Damaged steel frames can always be repaired, but if the damage is
- severe, be sure to check your other options. If the bicycle isn't
- steel, then it probably can't be repaired.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.4 Frame Fatigue
- From: John Unger <junger@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
-
- I think that some of the confusion (and heat...) on this subject
- arises because people misunderstand the term fatigue and equate it
- with some sort of "work hardening" phenomena.
-
- By definition, metal fatigue and subsequent fatique failure are
- well-studied phenomena that occur when metal (steel, aluminum,
- etc.) is subjected to repeated stresses within the _elastic_ range
- of its deformation. Elastic deformation is defined as deformation
- that results in no permanent change in shape after the stess is
- removed. Example: your forks "flexing" as the bike rolls over a
- cobblestone street.
-
- (an aside... The big difference between steel and aluminum
- as a material for bicycles or anything similar is that you
- can design the tubes in a steel frame so that they will
- NEVER fail in fatigue. On the other hand, no matter how
- over-designed an aluminum frame is, it always has some
- threshold in fatigue cycles beyond which it will fail.)
-
- This constant flexing of a steel frame that occurs within the
- elastic range of deformation must not be confused with the
- permanent deformation that happens when the steel is stressed beyond
- its elastic limit, (e. g., a bent fork). Repeated permanent
- deformation to steel or to any other metal changes its strength
- characteristics markedly (try the old "bend a paper clip back and
- forth until it breaks" trick).
-
- Because non-destructive bicycle riding almost always limits the
- stresses on a frame to the elastic range of deformation, you don't
- have to worry about a steel frame "wearing out" over time.
-
- I'm sorry if all of this is old stuff to the majority of this
- newsgroup's readers; I just joined a few months ago.
-
- I can understand why Jobst might be weary about discussing this
- subject; I can remember talking about it on rides with him 20 years
- ago....
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.5 Frames "going soft"
- From: jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org (Jobst Brandt)
- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:31:32 PDT
-
- > I have read accounts of "frames going dead" in cycling literature in
- > the past. If you have information that debunks this, I'd like to
- > know about it. The explanations I have read claim that the flexing
- > of a metal causes it to heat up and harden, making it more brittle.
- > Eventually it will break under stress. In fact, I read recently
- > that aluminum frames are coming out with warning stickers stating
- > "this frame will break someday". I have also read that this happens
- > to titanium and steel.
-
- It was in print, therefore it is true! Also known, is that a freshly
- washed and polished car runs better. Just the idea that the car is
- admirably clean makes this concept appear true for many drivers. The
- same psychosomatic mechanism is at work when a bicycle racer thinks it
- is time for a new frame. I even suspect that some frame builders
- assisted in spreading this idea to improve frame sales.
-
- Metal fatigue and failure occur, but they do not change the elastic
- response of the metal. Steel (and of course aluminum and other common
- metals) have been metallurgically characterized over more than a
- century to a precise understanding. None of this research has shown
- the possibility of perceptible change in elastic response from any
- stresses to which a bicycle frame might be subjected.
-
- You mention brittleness. Brittleness describes the failure mode of a
- material and is not a perceptible unless the material breaks.
- Hardness is also not perceptible unless you exceed the elastic limit
- and permanently bend the frame, exposing the metal's yield point, the
- point at which it no longer rebounds. If not, it springs back
- unchanged as do most ceramics such as a dish, or a glass that is
- dropped without breaking. If it breaks, it does not bend and none of
- the shards show any distortion. It either breaks or it doesn't.
- That's brittleness personified.
-
- What escapes the believers of material change is that neither
- "softening" or "hardening" effects the elastic modulus of the metal.
- A coat hanger and a highspeed steel drill of the same diameter have
- the same elastic bending stiffness. For small bending deflections,
- both are equally stiff, although the hardened steel can bend farther
- than the soft steel and still spring back unchanged. The stress at
- which it permanently deforms is the measure of "hardness" of the
- metal, not its elasticity.
-
- Classically, when bicycle parts or frames fail, the rider usually
- notices nothing before hand. This is true for most thick cross
- section parts and often even frame tubes frames. The reason for this,
- is that to permit any perceptible change in deflection, all the added
- elasticity must come from a crack that has practically no volume. So
- the crack would need to open substantially to, by itself, allow
- perceptible motion. Since this is not possible without complete
- failure, the crack grows in length, but not width, until the remaining
- cross section can no longer support the load, at which time it
- separates.
-
- > If these ideas have been widely disproven, I'd appreciate knowing
- > how. I've read all six parts of the FAQ and did not see it mentioned.
-
- The reason this was not in the FAQ may be that the whole subject is so
- preposterous to engineers, metallurgists, and physicists, that they,
- the people who might explain it, are generally not inclined to bother
- discussing whether "the moon is made of green cheese" or not.
-
- > PS. If what you're objecting to is the use of the word "dead" as
- > opposed to brittle and inflexible, I'll grant you that.
-
- The objection is that you present something for which there is no iota
- of scientific evidence, nor any even slightly credible explanation, as
- though it were fact. It is as though bicyclists have a different
- natural world, where the technical laws are entirely different from
- all other machinery, and the most perceptive technical insights come
- from the strongest bicycle racers. "After all who knows more about
- bicycles, you or the world champion?" is a common retort.
-
- Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.6 Inspecting your bike for potential failures
- From: richkatz@cruzio.com (Keith Bontrager)
-
- Handlebars are probably the one component that deserves the most
- respect. Easton recommends a new bar every two years. I don;t recall
- if they include an "if you race" preface. I'd say that's probably
- about right. Same for our aluminum bars. Yearly would be good
- on bars that have not been engineered for extended fatigue lives.
-
- Of course, if you don;t race, if you have more than one bike, if
- you are a smooth rider, if you like to do "skyshots" you need to
- work this in to the estimate. Getting tougher, eh? Many people
- could ride on the good quality bars into the next millenium without
- a problem. How do you sort it out? I don't know.
-
- Many parts (not bars or forks) will give you ample warning if you bother
- to inspect your bike regularly. Clean it. Look at it. There
- are "hot spots" all over the bike that deserve carefull attention.
-
- Fork crown. Welds if a rigid fork, crown material if its a sus fork.
-
- Steerer. Hard to look at, but once a year, especially if it's aluminum
- or if you've crashed hard with a big front impact. Also if there are
- noises from the front of the bike when you climb or sprint, or
- if the bike starts handling funny. Be careful when you change lower
- head set races so you don't gouge up the steerer at the bottom.
-
- If you have an AHS stem/steerer look at the steerer at the point
- where the stem and HS bearings meet. Critical!
-
- Stem. All of the welds and the binder. Especially if you are
- a 200lb sprint specialist.
-
- Down tube/head tube joint of the frame - underneath.
-
- Top tube/ head tube joint - same location.
-
- Seat tube - near the BB shell and near the seat binder clamp slot.
-
- BB spindle. Hard to look at, but once a year. Look near the tapers
- where the crank fits on. This is the weak spot. If the crank
- feels funny when you are pedaling (hard to describe the feeling)
- or if it comes loose unexpectedly, look long and hard at the spindle.
- Cartridge BBs that allow you to change the bearings should be
- treated with some respect. You can keep fresh bearings in them
- forever, guaranteeing that they'll be in service until the
- spindle fails!
-
- Cranks. Check the right hand arm all around where the arm leaves
- the spider. Also check the hub where the arm attaches to the
- spindle - especially if the arm is machined from bar (CNC). The
- section near the pedal threads was prone to failure on older
- road cranks though I have not seen this on MTB cranks (yet!).
- Look all over the arms on the light aftermarket cranks. Often.
- Twice.
-
- Seat post. Pull it out and sight down the quill. Any ripples
- or deformation around the area where the post is clamped in the
- frame indicates a failure on the way. The clamps are too varied to
- comment on. If you have to run the fasteners real tight to keep
- the saddle from slipping you should put new, very high strength
- fasteners in every year or so. The clamps can come loose from the
- quill tube sometimes (ask me how I know). Grab the saddle and give it
- a twist.
-
- Saddle. Rails near the seat post support pieces.
-
- Rims. material around spoke holes can pull out, side walls can
- wear through, side walls can fail due to extrusion defects. Some
- of these are hard to see.
-
- Frames around the dropouts (not a problem with newer frames as it
- was with older campy forged drops). Chainstays near the CS bridge
- and BB shell.
-
- Hubs. Flanges can pull away from the hub body. Not a problem
- in most cases unless the wheels are poorly built, you are running
- radial spokes and ride real hard, have poorly designed aftermarket
- hubs, or are very unlucky.
-
- Many components will make a bit of noise or make the bike feel funny
- before they go. Not all will. Respect this.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.7 Frame materials
- From: Sheldon Brown <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:10:19 GMT
-
- See http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-materials.html
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.8 Bottom Bracket Drop
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:09:46 PDT
-
- I'm not familiar with BB drop. How is it measured and what are its
- limits?
-
- For road bicycles, using conventional sized wheels, BB drop (BB
- spindle centerline below wheel axle centerlines) has been empirically
- arrived upon at about [240mm minus crank length] for useful cornering
- clearance. Imbalance of pedaling in curves at greater lean causes
- side-slip. For this reason, higher BB's have shown no advantage in
- criterium racing while road races are practically unaffected by
- maximum cornering ability while pedaling. Track bicycles have certain
- advantages on tracks with low banking if they can ride the curves at
- zero speed but then that depends on track length and how it is banked.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.9 Bent Frames
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:50:20 PST
-
- How to determine whether a frame is straight after a crash and what
- can be done about it.
-
- First is visual, especially for head-on collisions on a standard steel
- frame, on which top and down tubes generally bend at the end of their
- butted section, about 50-100mm from the head tube. This usually
- causes cracks in the paint and can be detected by laying a straight
- edge on the down tube. Next, sight down the fork to determine if the
- fork blades are straight in the fore and aft plane, and whether their
- upper straight portion is parallel to head tube. Bicycles with
- straight blade forks (with angled crown) make the latter impossible.
-
- Another simple test is to ride no-hands and see whether the bicycle
- rides straight. This will show whether the fork is laterally correct.
-
- Determining whether the "rear triangle" is displaced requires
- measurement. The rear triangle, actually a tetrahedron (four sided
- figure with six edges), is not easily bent except by side force on the
- BB. Tubes bent by a force at midspan are self evident by no longer
- being straight. Bicycles with curved stays are on their own here,
- having no credible reason for their curvature, which becomes apparent
- when trying to determine whether they are "straight."
-
- Rear triangle displacement is measured by stretching a string from one
- dropout over the head tube back to the same place on the opposite
- dropout. The distance between string and seat tube should be
- identical for both sides. Also, because the two sides of a frame are
- seldom identically strong, dropout spacing will most likely not be
- correct, one side having yielded differently than the other.
-
- Such lateral displacements can be manually corrected by laying the
- frame on its side, placing the foot on the inside of the lower
- chainstay at the BB and pulling the dropout of the upper side toward
- the correct position. Monitor position change by measuring dropout
- spacing. After advancing a few millimeters, put the foot on top of
- the upper chainstay at the BB and pull the lower dropout until the
- spacing is correct and repeat the sting measurement.
-
- Laterally correcting a front fork is done similarly while monitoring
- dropout spacing. Here the critical test is whether the bicycle rides
- no-hands straight, which is relatively easy considering that the only
- the wheel need be removed to perform the bend. Otherwise, sighting
- down the head tube onto a dummy axle with a centerline on it can help
- determine whether the fork is "on axis." Forks are best straightened
- with fixturing but can be done without.
-
- For steel frames, these operations pose no problem if the distortion
- is within limits that do not peel off paint. Frames with oversized
- tubes generally make their fatal bends self evident by wrinkling as do
- downtubes of standard steel frames in head-on collisions.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.10 Aligning a Fork
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:35:42 PDT
-
- aka Bicycle pulls to one side
-
- Riders occasionally complain that their bicycle pulls to one side when
- ridden no-hands. That is, the rider must lean off to one side to ride
- straight ahead. This symptom can be from a wheel that is in crocked,
- something that is easily checked by observing whether the tire is
- centered under the brake bolt, or by just reversing the wheel to see
- if the wheel is improperly centered.
-
- Assuming the bicycle still pulls to one side, the reason is usually
- that the fork is bent from a side impact. Bent from a frontal impact
- this is easily seen because the blades have a rearward bend just below
- the fork crown where the blades should be straight both fore and aft
- and side to side. A frontal bend usually gives a side bend because
- the blades are not identical and tend to skew to one side. This is
- harder to fix and requires fixturing.
-
- If the fork is only bent to the side, the correction must be to the
- side to which the rider must lean when riding no-hands. This bend can
- be done carefully by bending one blade at a time.
-
- Lay the bicycle on its side, front wheel removed. Place the rubber
- soled foot inside the crown of the fork and pull the upper blade until
- the gap at the fork end increases by a couple of millimeters. This
- should be measured. With the foot in the same place pull the other
- fork blade until the original spacing is restored. Ride the bicycle
- and assess the difference. Repeat if necessary. This must be done
- with a strong arm and a bit of skill but it is simple.
-
- If you have a non steel bicycle, buy a new fork.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8e.11 Stuck Handlebar Stem
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:35:42 PDT
-
- Frozen aluminum stems were a common occurrence because conventional
- stems were poorly anchored in the fork, having only an expander at the
- bottom and the top free to pump from side to side with handlebar
- forces. This was OK in the days of steel stems and steel steer tubes
- but aluminum accelerated corrosion in this interface, expanding
- greatly with oxidation, in spite of grease in the interface that
- only turns to an emulsion in the rain from lateral pumping action.
-
- The expander bolt must be backed off about 1/2 inch to hammer the
- expander wedge out of engagement with the bottom of the stem. When
- the expander is free, the bolt should be loose with the expander
- dangling on its other end down in the steer tube. Now the stem should
- be rotatable with moderate force. If this is not the case, then it is
- a corroded frozen stem. Many forks have been damaged by twisting the
- bars forcefully in an attempt to free the stem. Don't do it. Pouring
- ammonia onto the gap is ineffective unless the stem is not truly
- frozen. The thin oxide interface to be dissolved is thousands of
- times as deep as thick. There being no circulation, this method works
- only in abstract theory.
-
- A skilled mechanic can saw off and drill the stem out until it is a
- thin shell, then break through one side of the shell with a grinder to
- extract the stem. Because aluminum corrosion expands enough to
- stretch the steel steer tube, it cannot be loosened by force. Riders
- often are happy when their stem stops creaking only to find later why
- it got quiet. It was no longer removable. The main advance achieved
- by threadless head bearings is that the stem is no longer subject to
- this failure. It is more a stem improvement than a head bearing
- improvement, although it also makes adjustment simpler and less
- expensive.
-
- Get it removed by a competent shop. Frame builders do this regularly.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8f Tech Moving Parts
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8f.1 SIS Adjustment Procedure
- From: Bob Fishell <spike@cbnewsd.att.com>
-
- Shimano's instructions for adjusting SIS drivetrains varies from series
- to series. The following method, however, works for each of mine (600EX,
- 105, and Deore'). [Ed note: Works on Exage road and mtb also.]
-
- Your chain and cogs must be in good shape, and the cable must be free
- of kinks, slips, and binds. The outer cable should have a liner.
- clean and lubricate all points where the cable contacts anything.
-
- SIS adjustment:
-
- 1) Shift the chain onto the largest chainwheel and the smallest cog,
- e.g., 52 and 13.
-
- 2) WITHOUT TURNING THE CRANKS, move the shift lever back until it
- clicks, and LET GO. This is the trick to adjusting SIS.
-
- 3) Turn the crank. If the chain does not move crisply onto the next
- inside cog, shift it back where you started, turn the SIS barrel
- adjuster (on the back of the rear derailleur) one-half turn CCW,
- and go back to step 2. Repeat for each pair of cogs in turn
- until you can downshift through the entire range of the large
- chainwheel gears without the chain hesitating. If you have just
- installed or reinstalled a shift cable, you may need to do this
- several times.
-
- 4) Move the chain to the small chainring (middle on a triple) and the
- largest cog.
-
- 5) turn the cranks and upshift. If the chain does not move crisply
- from the first to the second cog, turn the SIS barrel adjuster
- one-quarter turn CW.
-
- If the drivetrain cannot be tuned to noiseless and trouble-free
- SIS operation by this method, you may have worn cogs, worn chain,
- or a worn, damaged, or obstructed shift cable. Replace as needed
- and repeat the adjustment.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8f.2 SIS Cable Info
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- After Joe Gorin described the SIS "non-compressive" cable housing to
- me I got myself a sample to understand what the difference is. I
- believe "non-compressive" is a misnomer. This cable housing is NOT
- non-compressive but rather a constant length housing. As far as I can
- determine, and from reports from bike shops, this housing should not
- be used for brakes because it is relatively weak in compression, the
- principal stress for brake housing.
-
- SIS housing is made of 18 strands of 0.5mm diameter round spring steel
- wire wrapped in a 100mm period helix around a 2.5mm plastic tube. The
- assembly is held together by a 5mm OD plastic housing to make a
- relatively stiff cable housing. Because the structural wires lie in a
- helix, the housing length remains constant when bent in a curve. Each
- strand of the housing lies both on the inside and outside of the curve
- so on the average the wire path length remains constant, as does the
- housing centerline where the control cable resides. Hence, no length
- change. A brake cable housing, in contrast, changes length with
- curvature because only the inside of the curve remains at constant
- length while the outside (and centerline) expands.
-
- Shimano recommends this cable only for shift control but makes no
- special effort to warn against the danger of its use for brakes. It
- should not be used for anything other than shift cables because SIS
- housing cannot safely withstand compression. Its wires stand on end
- and have no compressive strength without the stiff plastic housing
- that holds them together. They aren't even curved wires, so they
- splay out when the outer shield is removed. Under continuous high
- load of braking, the plastic outer housing can burst leaving no
- support. Besides, in its current design it is only half as flexible
- as brake cable because its outer shell is made of structurally stiff
- plastic unlike the brake cable housing that uses a soft vinyl coating.
-
- Because brake cables transmit force rather than position, SIS cable,
- even if safe, would have no benefit. In contrast, with handlebar
- controls to give precise shift positioning, SIS housing can offer some
- advantage since the cable must move though steering angles. SIS
- housing has no benefit for downtube attached shifters because the
- cable bends do not change.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8f.3 STI/Ergo Summary
- From: Ron Larson <lars@craycos.com>
-
- This is the second posting of the summary of STI/Ergo experience. The
- summary was modified to include more on STI durability and also the
- range of shifting avaliable from each system. As before, I am open to
- any comments or inputs.
-
- lars
-
- THE CASE FOR COMBINED SHIFTERS AND BRAKES.
-
- Shifters that are easily accessible from either the brakehoods or the
- "drop" position are an advantage when sprinting or climbing because the
- rider is not forced to commit to a single gear or loose power / cadence
- by sitting down to reach the downtube shifters. They also make it much
- easier to respond to an unexpected attack.
-
- At first the tendency is to shift more than is necessary. This tendency
- levels out with experience. There is also an early tendency to do most
- shifting from the bakehoods and the actuators seem to be difficult to
- reach from the drop position. This discomfort goes away after a few
- hundred miles of use (hey, how many times have I reached for the
- downtube on my MTB or thumbshifters on my road bike???). All
- experienced riders expressed pleasure with the ability to shift while
- the hands were in any position, at a moments notice.
-
- The disadvantages are extra weight, added weight on the handlebars
- (feels strange at first) and expense. Lack of a friction mode was
- listed as a disadvantage by a rider who had tried out STI on someone
- elses bike but does not have Ergo or STI. It was not noted as a problem
- by riders with extended Ergo / STI experience. A comparison of the
- weight of Record/Ergo components and the weight of the Record
- components they would replace reveals that the total weight difference
- is in the 2 to 4 ounce range (quite a spread - I came up with 2 oz from
- various catalogs, Colorado Cyclist operator quoted 4 oz of the top of
- his head). The weight difference for STI seems to be in the same
- range. The change probably seems to be more because weight is shifted
- from the downtube to the handlebars.
-
- There was some concern from riders who had not used either system
- regarding the placement of the actuating buttons and levers for Ergo
- and STI and their affect on hand positions. Riders with experience have
- not had a problem with the placement of the actuators although one
- rider stated that the STI brakehoods are more comfortable.
-
- ADVANTAGES OF EACH SYSTEM.
-
- The Sachs/Ergo system was mentioned as a separate system. In fact
- (according to publications) it is manufactured By Campagnolo for Sachs
- and is identical to the Campagnolo system with the exception of spacing
- of the cogs on the freewheel/cassette. With the Ergo system, all
- cables can be routed under the handlebar tape while the STI system does
- not route the derailleur cables under the tape. Those that voiced a
- preference liked the clean look of the Ergo system.
-
- Both Ergo and STI seem to be fairly durable when crashed. Experience
- of riders who have crashed with either system is that the housings may
- be scratch and ground down but the system still works. The internal
- mechanismsof both systems are well protected in a crash.
-
- Both Ergo and STI allow a downshift of about 3 cogs at a time. This
- capability is very handy for shifting to lower gears in a corner to be
- ready to attack as you come out of the corner or when caught by
- surprise at a stop light. Ergo also allows a full upshift from the
- largest to the smallest cog in a single motion while STI requires an
- upshift of one cog at a time.
-
- Riders voiced their satisfaction with both systems. While some would
- push one system over the other, these opinions were equally split.
-
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-
- Subject: 8f.4 Cassette or Freewheel Hubs
- From: Jobst Brandt <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org>
-
- All cassette hubs are not nearly alike. That is apparent from the
- outside by their appearance and by the sprockets that fit on them.
- More important to their longevity is how their insides are designed.
- Among the mainline brands, some are a response not only to the choice
- and interchangeability of sprockets but to the problem of broken rear
- axles and right rear dropouts. These failures are caused by bending
- loads at the middle of the rear axle that arise from bearing support
- that is not at the ends of the axle. The following diagrams attempt
- to categorize the freewheel and hub combination, and two cassette
- designs with respect to these loads.
-
- |
- H H | |
- H H Io-- |
- /-------------------\ -o\
- O O------
- ===X==================wX========= Axle has weak spot at "w"
- O O------ (Freewheel & hub)
- \-------------------/ -o/
- H H Io-- |
- H H | |
- |
-
-
- |
- H H | |
- H H | | |
- /------------------\ /----\
- O O O----O
- ===X==================XwX====X=== Axle has weak spot at "w"
- O O O----O (Hugi and Campagnolo)
- \------------------/ \----/
- H H | | |
- H H | |
- |
-
-
- |
- H H | |
- H H | | |
- /------------------\/o---o\
- O \-----O
- ===X=========================X=== Axle is loaded only at ends
- O /-----O (Shimano and SunTour)
- \------------------/\o---o/
- H H | | |
- H H | |
- |
-
- For clarity only three sprocket gear clusters are shown.
-
- Strong cyclists put the greatest load on the axle by the pull of the
- chain because there is a 2:1 or greater lever ratio from pedal to
- chainwheel. The freewheel in the first diagram has the greatest
- overhung load when in the rightmost sprocket. The second design has
- the greatest bending moment on the axle when in the leftmost sprocket
- and the third design is independent (in the first order) of chain
- position. This third design carries its loads on bearings at the ends
- of the axle for minimum axle stress while the other two put a large
- bending moment on the middle of the axle.
-
- Common freewheel hubs have not only the highest bending stress but the
- smallest axle at 10mm diameter with threads that help initiate
- cracking. The second design type generally uses a larger diameter
- axle to avoid failure. However, these axles still have significant
- flex that can adversely affect the dropout.
-
- There are other important considerations in selecting a hub.
- Among these are:
-
- 1. Durability of the escapement and its angular backlash (t/rev).
- 2. Flange spacing, offset, and diameter.
- 3. Type of bearings (cone / cartridge) and environmental immunity.
- 4. Ease of sprocket replacement and cost.
-
- Currently the best solution for sprocket retention is a splined body
- that allows individual sprockets to be slipped on and be secured by an
- independent retainer. Screwing sprockets onto the body is
- indefensible, considering the difficulty of removal. The same goes
- for freewheels. No longer needing to unscrew tight freewheels is
- another advantage for cassette hubs.
-
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-
- Subject: 8f.5 Cassette or Freewheel Hubs take 2
- From: David Keppel <pardo@cs.washington.edu>
-
- People often ask ``should I use a freewheel or a freehub?'' The
- answer is usually ``yes.''
-
- The hub is the center of a wheel and is composed of an axle, bolted to
- the bike frame, a hub shell or hub body, where the spokes attatch, and
- bearings to let the shell rotate around the axle.
-
- Freewheels screw onto threads on the rear hub's shell, and cogs
- attatch to the freewheel. The freewheel's job is to provide a ratchet
- between the cogs and the hub shell, so that you can coast. Freehubs
- are similar but combine parts of the freewheel with parts of the hub
- shell. Freehubs are also sometimes called ``cassettes''.
-
- The usual problem with rear hubs is that axles bend and break. This
- is because the axle diameter was chosen when single cogs were used and
- the hub bearing was positioned close to the frame. Since then, wider
- cog clusters have become the norm, the bearings and frame have moved
- further apart and leverage on the axle has increased. But since the
- axle has not gotten any stronger, it now has a tendency to fail.
-
- Cassettes fix the problem by incorporating one hub bearing in to the
- freewheel mechanism, so that the bearing is once again outboard and
- the axle is carrying its load under less leverage. Some freewheel hubs
- solve the problem by using fatter axles. Since increasing the axle
- diameter dramatically improves axle strength, this is an effective
- solution and it is possible to use a fat axle that is aluminum and thus
- lighter than a standard skinny (weaker) steel axle.
-
- Neither solution is perfect -- cassette hubs let you use standard
- replacement axles, cones, washers, etc., but force you to use cogs and
- spacers and whatnot by a particular manufacturer (and possibly
- derailleurs and shifters -- e.g. XTR uses 4.9mm cog-to-cog spacing
- instead of the normal 5.0mm). On the other hand, fat axles are
- nonstandard as are some other replacement parts.
-
- As an aside, the cassette solution leaves a fairly long unsupported
- axle stub on the left side, and this is sometimes a source of more
- bending problems. Fatter axles solve the problem on both sides.
-
- Note also that many cassette systems allow you to remove the cogs using
- a lightweight tool and thus give you ready access to the spokes in case
- of breakage. Freewheels attatch with a fine thread (another historical
- artifact, I believe) and are thus more difficult to remove on the road,
- making spoke replacement harder.
-
- In principle, freehubs have all cogs attatch using the same size and
- shape of spline, so, e.g., a 20T cog can be used as both a large cog
- for a corncob cluster and as a middle cog for wide-range cluster.
- However, Shimano's marketing is just the opposite and is directed at
- selling whole clusters, without letting you replace individual cogs.
- (Shimano's policy is relevant here since they sell 90+% of such hubs.)
- Freewheels have several spline diameters in order to clear the bearings
- and ratchet. Further, small cogs typically screw on to the freewheel
- body or special cogs with extra threads. This introduces stocking
- problems and may make it hard to build some cog combinations.
-
- I'm not a fan of freehubs for the simple reason that they lock me in
- to one maker's choices about cogs and cog spacing. For example, I had
- a 1988 Shimano 6-speed freehub and by 1991 Shimano had, according to my
- local bike store, discontinued 6-speed replacement cogs. Thus, simply
- replacing one worn cog meant upgrading to a 7-speed system, which in
- turn requires all new cogs, a new freehub body (lucky me -- for some it
- requires a new hub and thus new wheel), and, if I wanted to keep index
- shifting, new thumbshifters. Had this been a freewheel-equipped
- bicycle, I could have easily switched to another maker's 6-speed
- freewheels.
-
- Fortunately, the market is stablizing, with a growing number of makers
- producing hubs and cogs using a spline pattern like the more recent
- Shimano 7-speed freehubs. However, it hasn't settled entirely, yet.
-
- ;-D oN ( A hubalaboo ) Pardo
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