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- ==========================================
- Frequently Asked Questions
- for
- Water Cooled VWs
- -- Technical --
- ==========================================
- rec.autos.vw
-
- Version:
- 1 Jan 93 = Inception, more or less.
- 1 Feb 93 = Removing O2 Snsr; Offrd lights #; tools
- 1 Mar 93 = Brake rotor edits; VW part numbers; sagging doors; Compression
- checks; adjusting valves.
- 1 Apr 93 = Stuff on interchangeability on parts; Rim offsets
- 1 May 93 = Eliminating rattles & squeaks, updated timing belt procedure,
- water pump failure diagnosis, added keyword <NOISE> for easy
- diagnosis, clutch sizes.
- 1 Jun 93 = CAM Baffles, Index.
- 1 Jul 93 = Edits.
- 1 Aug 93 = Chemical Info added.
- 1 Sep 93 = Edits, Tool info edits, dielectric grease, MTL caution
- 1 Oct 93 = Edits.
- 1 Nov 93 = Coolant/phosphates updated, rim ranges.
- 1 Dec 93 = Corrections on rim ranges, hesitation updates,
- 1 Jan 94 = Tom Coradeschi reformats.
- 15Jan 94 = Battery updates, Tire pressures, body care.
- 1 Feb 94 = Copyright BS added. Charge indicator diagnosis.
- 15Feb 94 = Split performance issues into its own faq!
- 1 Mar 94 = Edits, update recall info
- 1 Apr 94 = Edits. Updated brakes & transmissions a bit
- 1 May 94 = Remove bushings, edits
- 15May 94 = More rough idle & black smoke stuff added.
- 1 Jun 94 = Paint touch up procedure.
- 15Jun 94 = Updated with ND BBS stuff (coolant, bulbs)
- 1 Jul 94 = Edits
- 15Jul 94 = Tesing synchros. Overheating, windshields, seats, rim care
- 1 Aug 94 = Edits
- 15Aug 94 = Paintless dent removal.
- 1 Sep 94 = Inline fuel filter removal.
- 15Sep 94 = Edits.
- 1 Oct 94 = Edits
- 1 Nov 94 = Added some coolant service info, windshield Urethane, maintenance
- schedule.
- 1 Dec 94 = Updated FI cleaners.
- 1 Jan 95 = Updated coolant.
- 15Jan 95 = Exhaust hangers, retrofittimg programmable wiper control
- 15Feb 95 = Leather care
- 15Mar 95 = Approval received for *.answers & archival @ MIT
- 1 Apr 95 = W6DP0 plug comparison
- 15Apr 95 = Tire build dates
- 1 May 95 = Vinyl/Rubber Conditioner update
- 16Jun 95 = Corrections
- 1 Jul 95 = Lots of additions by Jens Knickmeyer
- 15Jul 95 = Updated MAINTENANCE section a tad.
- 1 Sep 95 = VR6 Idle/stalling problems, start of cross post to
- rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
- 1 Oct 95 = Undercoating info, bunch of EdW tips.
- 1 Nov 95 = Oil viscosity.
- 1 Jan 96 = VR6 Spark plug updates.
- 1 Feb 96 = Edits.
- 15Feb 96 = VR6 Sparkplug updates.
- 15Mar 96 = Edits.
- 15Apr 96 = Flushing VR6 engines.
- 15Jun 96 = How to drop the oil pan.
- 15Jul 96 = Bosch part # for prog interval wiper.
-
-
- Moderator:
- Jan Vandenbrande
- jan@ug.eds.com
- jan@lipari.usc.edu (school address, works)
- See also the list of contributors at the end.
-
- Please feel free to submit any additional info.
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- Copyright Notice (c) -- 1994 - 1996:
- All Rights Reserved
-
- The information contained here is collectively copyrighted by the
- authors. The right to reproduce this is hereby given, provided it is
- copied intact, with the copyright notice inclusive.
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- of its parts, or any document which contains parts of this document.
- (Inspired from faq.audio ;->)
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-
- PURPOSE:
- ========
- This FAQ is geared predominantly at the technical aspects of watercooled
- VWs based on the Golf Chassis (A1-A3: Golf I/Rabbit, Golf II & III,
- Sciroccos, Corrados, Jettas, Vento, Convertibles) using the original Audi
- "1600 type" engine block (now available up 2 liters) and the new VR6
- 2.8/2.9l engine aimed at the US/Canadian market.
- Not covered are the engines/fuel systems available outside North America
- such as the 1300 cc engines, carburetors/mono-throttle FI systems.
- These cars have many similarities with Dashers/Passats/Fox's. These are
- mostly mechanical, but not for the styling, suspension & exhausts.
-
- These technical aspects handles issues that will help you maintain the
- car in near stock conditions. The perfomance FAQ discusses issues
- to improve upon the stock design.
- Quite often, to remain stock complient is as expensive as it is to
- upgrade to better after market (performance) parts. Shocks and tires
- are a good example of this.
-
- Index:
- ======
- General issues (tools, VW part no system)
- Chemicals (Useful chemicals to have around)
- Engine (Rough idle/stalling, oil filter, more power,
- water pump, plugs, O2 sensor)
- Electrical (Bosch # conventions, charging problems, lights, etc)
- Transmission (CV Joints, shifting, gear oils)
- Brakes (Types, fluids, rotors)
- Tires/Rims/Suspension (shocks, tire widths & rim upgrades, performance)
- Body/Interior (Eliminating rattles, waxing)
- Miscellanea (Corrado spoilers squeaks)
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
- GENERAL
- =======
-
- Q: I have a problem with my car? What do I do? How should I go about
- fixing it?
- A: Diagnose the problem as well as you can: When does it happen? Is it speed
- dependent? Is there a noise associated with it? Where is it coming from? Is
- the problem temperature dependent? Happens at start up/after a while? Are
- there any physical signs such as fluids/grease/wear marks? Does everything
- look in good order/everything still attached?
-
- While you are going over your car, check whether all the basic things are
- in order.
- VW engines run hot and the 4 cyl. vibrate a lot. As a result things rattle
- loose and dry out quickly. This in turn causes a host of other problems.
- Electrical connections & wires: Connectors tend to corrode, wires break
- internally. Older VWs have a lot of problems which will make you think the
- car is totally gone while all it may be is a loose wire, or a bad ground.
- Also check out less obvious things: alternator brushes, fuse box, Hall
- connections *inside* the distributor?
- Vacuum hoses: They crack, they leak. Replace where needed.
- Beware of all rubber components. They wear out with all the heat.
-
- If your engine does not run, there are really two main sources: Mechanical
- and periphery. Generally, VW engines hold up mechanically rather well, and
- even with mechanical problems you can often get the engine to run.
- Usually the problem is located with the periphery. You really only need two
- basic things to make an engine run: Fuel and a spark at +/- the right
- moment. Suspect a problem with either one first and trace it from there.
- If for example the problems occurs each time it rains, suspect something
- wrong with an electrical connection or water leaking onto the fuze box.
-
- Yours truly once had problems with a carb and was able to start and run the
- engine while spraying carb cleaner directly into the intake manifold (with
- the carb REMOVED).
-
- Cleaning the car and engine is often helpful in locating the problem,
- especially leaks. It also make working on the car so much easier, for you
- and the mechanic.
-
- If you haven't found it yet, read through your manuals and try to identify
- the offending piece?
-
- Ask around. r.a.vw is an excellent source for help, but please be as
- detailed as you can. If you are having trouble diagnosing the problem, just
- imagine how hard it is for us not even having seen the car.
- So *please* don't post: "My car makes a funny noise. What could it be?"
- Start with make, model, year, and an accurate diagnosis.
-
- After you narrow it down to a couple of potential sources, start with the
- easiest and cheapest fix.
- My experience is that a majority of seemingly serious problems can be
- traced to very simple problems.
- Mechanics do NOT have the time to check individual components.
- Many work on commission (like department stores) and the more cars they
- work on (not fix) the more they earn. Therefore, they usually take the
- quickest route for them (replace stuff), and of course you end up paying
- for that shiny new part through the nose even though it does not fix the
- problem.
- Besides, would you pay a mechanic $200 to fix a 50 cent connector because
- it took him/her the whole day to find it?
-
- Q: I want to work on my VW. What tools should I get?
- A: I'd recommend Muir's (Complete Idiot) Stage I and Stage II tool list. Here
- is roughly the "phylosophy" to follow:
-
- Most people start with a couple of tools and then buy more as time
- progresses and they learn how to work on their car.
- It makes sense, except that it is usually cheaper to buy the most complete
- "set" rather than buying a small set and then adding on (e.g., socket "set"
- = 50 US cents a socket in the largest set, individual = 2-7 US$/piece).
- My recommendation therefore is to buy the largest possible set of whatever
- you can afford. Trust me, you will always be going back for more. In
- addition, good tools will last you your lifetime!
-
- Next, what brand name should you get. First look for tools with a life time
- warrantee (though that may not be an indication of quality). In North
- America, SnapOn, MAC, Stanley, Mechanix, Blackhawk, KD, and Sears Craftsman
- tools (though their quality and warrantee policy is rumored to be
- declining).
- Avoid cheap tools, they are NOT worth the money, they can do more harm than
- good (stripping), and may actually hurt you.
- My order of preference is (and I'll be flamed for this, but this IS based
- on 15 years of experience): Made in the USA or NW-Europe, & Japan. I
- usually stay away from Taiwanese tools except for one shot "light" duty
- items. They are getting better, but so far quality has varied too much to
- be reliable.
-
- A basic set should consist of:
- Socket set:
- Most versatile is a 3/8" ratchet drive set. It must contain 10, 13, 17,
- 19mm, and sparkplug socket, a couple extension bars and a 3/8-1/4"
- adaptor.
- 12 pt sockets are the most common, but you may want to consider a 6 pt
- set instead. They are MUCH less likely to strip and break if you need to
- exert a good amount of torque.
- Deep sockets are also useful in case you need to clear a bolt.
- A torque wrench is also very useful. Unfortunately there is no one size
- for all torques on the car. There are a variety of models: Cheapest are
- those with a read out gauge. They work well but usually you end up in a
- position that you cannot read the gauge.
- I prefer the "click type" torque wrenches where you dial in the desired
- torque and it will give you a loud click once you attain that.
- Screw drivers:
- Get a whole bunch of sizes, spade & Phillips
- Allen Keys:
- Get a whole bunch of sizes, though you may want to get Allen key Sockets
- to use with your 3/8" drive (once you figure out the sizes you need).
- Wrenches:
- Get the largest set you can afford. Open and closed.
- Same sizes as above. Get at least one large adjustable one.
- Pliers:
- Again, get the largest set you can afford, regular & miniature,
- straight, needle nosed. Vise Grips are useful too.
- Hammers:
- Get a plastic & rubber one. The "normal" hammers are usually not used on
- cars except in utter frustration.
- Jack & Stands:
- I'd recommend a floor jack over a bottle or scissor jack. A floor jack
- will make raising your car *so* much easier. Stands are also a must. You
- don't want you car crashing down on you. Use with wood and some foam
- rubber to protect you car's undercoating.
- Lights:
- At the minimum get a knock-about light with a shatter proof heavy duty
- lamp in it (don't even *think* of using a regular light bulb, dangerous,
- and they only last 10 minutes under those conditions). A well lit garage
- (i.e., 8" neon lamps is ideal).
- Oil Filter wrench:
- Different types exist and it depends on what works best for your car. My
- favorite is the one that looks like an extension bar with a loop of seat
- belt material.
-
- Air Pump:
- Pump up tires...
- Tire gauges:
- Dial types are usually the most accurate.
- Odds an ends:
- Tie wraps, electrical wires & connectors, elec. tape, vacuum hoses, hose
- clamps.
-
- "Oh-Oh" Type of Tools:
- ======================
-
- Occasionally, things WILL go wrong, usually 5 minutes before all shops
- close on a day before a long weekend, when your other car is gone or your
- bike has a flat, all your neighbors with tools or out of town, and right
- before you embark on a long trip, and a very unsympathetic spouse watching
- on.
-
- For many of these, you can wait for a sale, but do get them when you have a
- chance.
-
- Screw Extractor Set/Easy Out:
- Get a set, just in case, to remove stripped screws/bolts/brake bleed
- nipples.
-
- Magnetic Pickup:
- Basically a magnet on an antenna. Lose a nut down your intake manifold
- throat or down a cylinder?...this should help. Don't even *think* on
- starting the car.
-
- Claw pick up:
- Like the above except it has little claws on the end of a flexible tube
- to pick things up. Similar use as above.
-
- >>>> STILL NEEDS WORK <<<<<
-
- Q: My A1 based VW sounds very buzzy and noisy, vibrations in the <NOISE>
- engine compartment. What's wrong?
- A: Check the front right engine mount. They wear out in ~50k miles.
-
- From [KIRBY ERLANDSEN]: My tricks are to cut the old one out with a hacksaw
- (this is easy because you can remove the hacksaw blade and cut from the
- inside out ) and put the new mount in the freezer while you heat the
- bracket in the oven. Then with gloves on, you can hammer the two together
- fairly easily. [Note, oil the components FIRST] If that does not work,
- bring it to a machine shop and have them press it in for you.
-
- See also a1.mounts in the archives.
-
- Q: My odometer/trip odometer stopped working. How do I fix it?
- A: This is an old known problem. The odometer gear which drives the 1/10 mile
- splits thus no longer engages the shaft to the 1/10 mile digit wheel. You
- can glue it back with epoxy (after you spend some prime time behind your
- dash removing the speedometer and opening it up).
-
- Hints on removing: A2's are a lot easier than A1's. The hardest part is
- unscrewing the speedo cable. Try taking the lower dash covers off and put
- your hand up from the bottom. Also I just remove the steering wheel before
- working on the cluster. It makes it a whole lot easier, but be sure your
- steering wheel and shaft are marked so you can get them back on the same.
- Otherwise your wheel will be crooked when you drive straight.
- Reinstalling is harder because you have to be sure the square drive on the
- speedo matches up with the cluster. Otherwise the cable will not seat fully
- or the speedo nut is hard to start.
- Also, be careful to align the wiring connector before trying to insert -
- it's polarized.
-
- Other hint: I also twisted some fine wire around the flanges of the gear
- (near the shaft) and put glue over the wire and flanges. Make sure to get
- the gear back in the proper position under the worm gear.
-
- Other hint: I usually go down to the junk yard and look for damaged
- dashboards and speedo's. Usually one has the gear I need -- I just pry it
- off -- this is a no cost item if you have a friendly junk yard owner.
-
- Other hint: Another approach I used on my '79 Rabbit was to go to a hobby
- shop and find a small pinion gear for those electric race cars. It had the
- right number of teeth, and same ID, but was slightly wider and had an Allen
- set screw.
- I filed off the outer edges to clear the other worm gears and mounted it on
- the shaft with the set screw. Looked weird, but worked OK. The gear will
- cost about $3 and you need the fine Allen key wrench.
-
- You can also send it to have it fixed at:
- VDO (the OEM) in VA, (703) 665-0100
-
- Q: What is VWs part numbering scheme?
- A: Each part number is composed of nine numbers in three groups, followed
- optionally with a letter suffix (taken from WolfSport's catalog):
-
- vvv ggg ppp [s]
-
- vvv: Vehicle type ggg: PRIMARY INDEX
- 171 = R/G I 100-199 = Engine/Cooling/Clutch
- 161 = Jetta I 200-299 = Exhaust, Fuel Tank
- 165 = Jetta II 300-399 = Transmission/Transaxle
- 261 = 16V GTI 400-499 = Front Axle/Suspension
- 531 = Scirocco I 500-599 = Rear Axle
- 535 = Scirocco II 600-699 = Brake
- 155 = Convertible 700-799 = Cables, Bumpers and Foot control
- 191 = Golf 800-899 = Body/Interior
- 900-999 = Electrical, ignition, fuel injection
-
- ppp: Individual Part Number s: Suffix, optional
-
- The primary index and the part number are the most important numbers
- because many of the cars share the same parts. So do not be surprised to
- see a 171-Rabbit type part in a Jetta.
- Note that some part numbers are exclusively related to certain parts
- of the car. For example, vvv = 020 are related to the transmission,
- vvv = 056 common oil filter.
-
- Note: This is scheme has been in use since the Beetle days (111 - Standard
- Beetle - LHD) but I leave that for the [A] FAQ. AUDI uses the same scheme
- as well (?).
-
- CHEMICALS
- =========
-
- NOTE:
- This section lists some of the more useful chemicals to use on cars.
- Be aware that many of these chemicals are harmful if used improperly and
- could result in stripped paint, rubber becoming brittle, up to poisoning,
- cancer and death.
- Dispose of them environmentally!
- See also the section of Waxing for body care chemicals.
-
- Q: What are some of the useful chemicals to have around?
- A: Cleaners:
- ---------
- Brake Cleaner:
- (Spray) Make sure it's not too harmful for rubber/plastic and keep it away
- from paint. Also keep it away from any eye-ware that you may be waring.
-
- Carb Cleaner:
- Probably a bit dated by now, but the one that was most impressive
- was Fire Dragon (Spray), however most others work fine as well.
- If you have an oxy sensor and cat, make sure the stuff you get
- is compaitible
- I also used ChemClean to dunk the entire carb (see below)
- Keep it away from any eye-ware that you may be waring.
-
- FI/Valve Cleaner:
- What ever you get make sure it does NOT harm catalytic conv or the
- oxysensor.
-
- The following are recommended and seem to work faily well. They are
- added to a tank of gas, or fed directly into the FI system.
-
- Lubro Molly: there are two products, an injector cleaner
- and a valve cleaner. You can run the valve cleaner straight
- through your injection system by hooking it to one of the
- vaccum hoses and sucking it straight into the valves. Produces
- lots of smoke but really helped my friends old 924. These are
- expensive at $12-14 for both.
-
- RedLine SL1: works very well and relatively cheap: $3.50 for the 12oz
- bottle. My current favorite.
-
- Chevron Techron: get the real thing, not the ProGuard stuff.
- Not too expensive at $5.99/20oz bottle. (Imparts, others) Chevron
- however, warns you not to use it too often between oil changes...
- (I think no more than 5 treatments)
-
- 44K (BG Products): VW also recommends this more concentrated to be
- used every 4k miles (= VW Part #208 (?)).
-
- VW AutoBahn injector cleaner (rumored to be the same as Chevron Techron
- for a lower price, for once).
-
- Chevron ProGuard: only if none of the above is available. I used it
- a few times, but couldn't tell a difference. I think it contains
- Techron, but if you can get the real thing...
- Note that ProGuard is a weaker version of Techron.
-
- General:
- --------
- "Simple Green": General purpose cleaner (great and safe), engine cleaner
- It's a non-oil soap (i.e., surfactant) based product that smells like
- mint toothpaste. However, it does eat away wax.
-
- "Chem Clean":
- A can or bucket of chemicals that degreases bearings CVJs, or carbs REAL
- fast (that stuff is amazing). It is however murder on skin and nails
- and anything plastic and runner.
-
- Hand Cleaner:
- With pumice. Just buy a big vat. They are great, much better than
- dishwash liquid or regular soap.
-
- Lubricants:
- -----------
- Penetrant oil:
- E.g., "Liquid Wrench". Eventually loosens stuck parts.
- WD40 :
- General purpose light "lubricant"/penetrant. WD-40 should NOT
- be used for permanent lubrication.
- Anti-Seize:
- See below.
- Case of engine Oil
- Lithium Grease:
- Spray can for hard to reach places
- Molybdenum Grease:
- For bearings (NOT CVJs!)
- Talcum Powder:
- For rubber components
- Silicone Spray:
- Good for lubricating metal & non-metal components.
- Rumored to dry out rubber though.
-
- Paint/Body:
- -----------
- Body Paint:
- For touch ups/scratches.
- Primer:
- I prefer cold galvanizing primer
- Naval Jelly:
- Rust remover (Phosphoric acid, i.e., coka cola).
-
- Others:
- -------
- Brake quiet:
- Sticky stuff to put on the pad *backing* to eliminate squeals.
- Glues:
- Depending on what you need to glue, use Epoxy, rubber cement,
- RTV/Silicone Rubber, etc.
- ThreadLocker:
- See below.
- Distilled water:
- Battery & for coolant mixing
-
- There is more, but buy some only as you need them because they may dry out.
-
- Q: What should I do with Loctite Threadlocker (tm) and Anti Seize (tm)?
- A: Use Anti-seize on anything that you will disassemble again and is subject
- to corrosion (water pump bolts, wheel bolts, exhaust bolts), but be
- careful on sparkplugs and oxygen sensors (it contains lead which kills
- the cat, make sure it's on the threads only).
- Use Loctite Threadlocker (medium strength is ok) on anything you don't want
- to rattle loose and you cannot use serrated o-rings: Brake bolts, etc.
-
- I use anti-seize the most, and if you torque things right, I never had a
- problem of anything rattling loose.
- Note that Loctite also seals out air, and therefore prevents corrosion
- which means that disassembly will also be facilitated, compared to
- something rusted shut. A small tube of each goes A LONG way.
-
- Q: What power steering fluid should I use?
- A: Be very careful most newer VW cannot use generic power steering fluid.
- From the ND BBS:
- Just read up in the manual and all VW's use ATF II up till april 89.
- After april 89 use the special Petrosin hydraulic fluid CHF
-
-
- Q: What do those "20W50" numbers mean for my engine oil?
- A: That's the viscosity range of the oil, i.e., how thick it is.
- 20W means that this oil behaves exactly like a 20 weight oil at 0F,
- and behaves like a thicker 50 weight oil at 210F.
- This type of oil is called a multi-viscosity oil because it is capable
- of lubricating your engine under a wide range of temperature conditions.
-
- More details are available at the various oil co web sites, and on
- the oil FAQ available on many sites.
- See also your owner's manual and further below on the recommended oil
- weights to use for your car.
-
- There are two opposing views on weight to choose. One says
- to get as thin as possible (to pump better, especially at start up),
- the other as thick as possible (better bearing protection).
- Typically, manufacturers have specific recommendations depending
- on the climate you live in. Contrary to other small engines, VWs
- seem to like thicker oils better. Synthetics generally offer the
- best protection. See the FAQ on that as well.
-
-
- ENGINE
- ======
-
- Q: I have a very rough idle/stalling/hesitation/bucking problem when the car
- is cold (or warm in some cases). What can I do to fix it?
- A: This is an old problem that may have numerous causes. Mostly A2
- Golfs/GTIs/Jettas/GLIs (8v & 16V) are affected. First make sure everything
- "obvious" is ok: vacuum (hoses, pipes, intake), electrical connections,
- tuned up right, spark plugs, distributor, good tank of gas, etc.
- These are by far the most likely causes of this annoying problem.
-
- [jan, 19930902, overheard in the VW shop]
- VW is going to embark in some form of campaign, not sure whether it is an
- actual NHTSA mandated one, to replace all the ECU's with one using gold
- plated connectors, replace and reroute several vacuum hoses, and replace
- the throttle body (the shaft has a radial play causing a vacuum leak in
- some cases). I believe that recent Passats, A2 Jettas and GTIs are included
- in this.
-
- Depending on the model, do the following:
- - Change to a different brand/type of gas (4-5 tanks) VW had a bulletin out
- on this. They recommend Shell, Chevron & AMOCO(?)
- - Use a good Fuel Injector Cleaner every 4000 miles. See Chemicals
- for recommendations.
- - Use fuel dryer (using ISOPROPANOL NOT Methanol)
- - Check (idle) throttle switch
- - Clean sensor plate or airmass sensor & throttle body orifices
- - Change the fuel filter
- - Clean idle stabilizer VALVE with brake or carb cleaner (VW&P) (Note:
- Earlier cars had a Digital Idle Stabilizer circuitry (DIS) which is
- something different, and *rarely* fails).
-
- For RD (8V) series idle stablilizer problems (& others probably):
- Symptom: Idles extremely rough when cold, improves after warmup. Doesn't
- compensate for A/C compressor load when on.
- Diagnosis: Disconnect the connector from the valve, measure resistance
- from the center pin to each side, both should be about 12.5 ohms.
- If either one reads high or open, replace it. (will be about $200 at your
- Bosch dealer, owww).
- Reason: The internals of the valve form a bidirectional DC servomotor,
- the windings of which are connected through a commutator, which has a
- nasty habit of arcing until the connection is gone.
-
- - Check *all* vacuum hoses (inc. those going to the brake booster & the
- brake booster itself)
- - Check *all* air pipe connections (esp. between the throttle body & air
- cleaner housing). Look around hose clamps, crimped ends, where there may
- be relative motion and cause a tear.
- - Check for vacuum leaks anywhere else, e.g., around the intake manifold.
- - Check *all* electrical connections (see also later on bad grounds)
- Be aware of the old "leak in the windshield molding or firewall
- gommets that drips and shorts out the fuse box" problem.
- Many A1's suffer that problem, especially those with badly installed
- replacement windshield (most places, BTW).
- - Check inside the distributor (carbon build up will cause misfires/bad idle)
- - Check warm-up regulator/thermo switches
- - Check proper working of the Oxygen [Lambda] Sensor (see Bentley)
- Hint: Disconnect the O2 sensor, if the car runs better suspect that it
- may be bad.
- Replace if suspect. Some O2 sensors will last longer than their
- expected 30/60k miles lifetime, others fail *much* sooner.
- Resetting the warning light for maintenance is NOT a good substitute.
- - Clean contacts of the ECU, and all engine management related components
- with an aerosol contact cleaner (note: Newer VWs use gold plated
- contacts, so this definite a problem area in older cars!)
- - Check ground of ECU. There is a bulletin out on this. Usually this
- failure is acompanied with black smoke billowing from your exhaust.
- - Check fuel pump relay, it may have an intermittent failure. HARD
- to diagnose, until it cuts out entirely. If it does die,
- jump the two large terminals on the relay block to operate the pump
- so you won't be stranded. [frank.sikernitsky@mail.trincoll.edu]
- - Check the working of the injectors (incl 5th one).
- - Check the injector O-rings (older cars)
- - Clean the tank screen at the bottom of the tank or on the transfer fuel
- pump (& also clean the tank if you find junk)
- From WENDTM@FIRNVX.FIRN.EDU (Mark): When I pulled the hose off the intake
- side of the fuel pump it only dribbled slowly from the tank! No Gusher!
- That was a real clue that the tank was faulty, and not the pump. :)
- - Clean the screen *inside* the fuel pump.
- - Check whether the filtering banjo bolt (has a screen) near the fuel
- distributor has been removed at the first service (mostly A2 cars with FI
- in the US, don't know about Europe). It's replaced with a bolt w/o a
- screen (Part nos: Screw = N 0210715 Washers = N 0138128, for *most* A2
- cars). If it is left, it may clog or restrict flow.
- - Check the health of the fuel pump(s) (measure the amount of current it is
- drawing). Note, many A2s have two pumps!
- - Improperly grounded throttle position potentiometer
- (90 Golf: scottz@pangea.Stanford.EDU), as well as VR6s
- - VR6 models: Connector to the airmass sensor gone bad.
- - VR6 models: Engine temperature sensor gone bad.
- For a 1994 Corrado VR6 the temperature sensor in question was
- FP NUMBER: 025-906-041-A.
- - Check the CONTROL PRESSURE REGULATOR. Apparently the heating element
- wears out, and it won't give correct pressure until it warms up
- - Faulty oil pump relief valve. Pumps up the hydraulic lifters too much
- limiting compression. Apparently mentioned in EuroCar.
- - If nothing helped, you may need a new ECU! (The 91?,92? Jettas went
- through 5 different ECUs, according to my mechanic).
- - Catalytic converter clogged and breaking up. However, if that happens
- it will rattle like a coffee can with coins in it.
- - If the car bucks/loses power around 3000-4000 rpm when accelerating,
- check the full throttle switch. seibed@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Edward Seibert)
- - >>>> MORE????
- - For Vanagons, see VANAGON_Stall in the archives.
-
- Q: Car starts fine but hessitates at cold. Runs fine when warm.
- [From: Bill N Gallas]
- A: Rough running at cold can be caused by a bad coolant temp
- sensor. On 8V engines the sensor is generally found on the
- coolant flange bolted to the head and going to the radiator
- upper hose. On 16 V Jettas it's next to the coolant outlet
- at about the 7 o'clock position on the rear of the head (tranny
- end) the sensor is a 2 wire unit and is about 17 MM socket size.
- The sensor gets lazy and reading the resistance is a good check.
-
- [Jan:] On Corrado G60s it is identified by a blue plug on the coolant
- flange bolted to the head similar to the 8V cars.
- Pulling the plug at idle usually will make the engine stall out.
-
-
- Q: What oil filter should I use on my VW?
- A: VW's, MANN's or Bosch (OEM). FRAM (PH2870) or other brands do NOT have the
- same valving (backflow, bypass), valving rates, rigidity of construction,
- and quality. The other brands will work ok, but you may be running a risk.
- Several known cases of Corrado G60s blowing FRAM filters open. Some known
- cases of Porsches ruining engines with FRAM filters due to inadequate
- gaskets.
- MANN filters are also available from Beck Arnley World Parts, and are
- packaged under that brand, so they are much cheaper than the factory
- filters.
-
- The function of the bypass valve is to bypass the oil filter if the filter
- is clogged or the oil is too viscous during a cold start. Dirty oil is
- better than NO oil.
-
- The anti-backflow valve prevents the oil from draining out of the engine
- block into the oil pan. This means that oil will be available almost
- instantaneously at a start up, which is also when the majority of wear
- occurs (SLICK 50 is not lying about that). The VR6 engines have this valve
- build into the engine!
-
- [Jan: Compared to the SLC oil filters (~15-20US$), the regular filters now
- seem cheap (~4-6US$)]
-
- NOTE: Newer VWs DO NOT use the same filters as before. The G60 filter is
- recognizable by the "nut" welded on the bottom, the SLC does NOT use a
- filter but a replaceable insert (two kinds available, a short and a long
- one, measure before you buy).
-
- Q: I seem to be running hot. What should I do?
- A: Check and do the following.
- - Check your coolant level
- - Check the concentration of your coolant
- - Clean your radiator fins (do that with every wash)
- - Check whether the fan still comes on at the correct temps
- - Check whether the fan still works at all! Some cars have 2 fans
- and one motor (a la Audi). Check whether the belt is still OK.
- - Your temperature sensors may not be working right.
- Some cars have SEVERAL sensors (one screwed in the radiator,
- one exposed to the air above the engine)!
- Also make sure the contacts are ok...battery acid
- may do a lot of harm. Also check the system ground to those sensors.
- Some suggest to drop the sensor in boiling water and see what temp
- you read.
- - Flush the system, check for calcium deposits inside the radiator
- and tubes and check the thermostat.
- Using destilled water in your mixture will prevent any deposits from
- happening.
- Your mixture must not contain more than 60% coolant! Otherwise the
- heat transport effect will deteriorate.
- - Check the thermostat (see whether it opens at the desired temps
- to the required opening). Note: Thermostats do get lazy after a couple
- of years.
- - Check whether you have the right water pump. Some aftermarket pumps have
- smaller impellers and therefore do not pump adequately.
- - Check whether the water pump (s) are still working. The impeller
- on the mechanical pump sometimes gets detached.
- On VR6 cars, also check the second, electrical pump.
- - Check whether the bottom radiator hose collapses when the engine
- is hot and running. Replacements exist that have internal coil
- to prevent a collapse. Mostly A1 cars are affected by this.
- - You may be running too lean
-
- See also the performance FAQ for other measures.
-
- Q: How do I flush my cooling system?
- A: The basic principle is to drain the old fluid out, refill the car
- with regular water and perhaps some coolant flush liquid, let the car
- run for a bit (follow the instructions of the flush chemical), let it
- cool, drain, fill it up with water again, run, cool, drain, repeat
- until clear water comes out. Then you refill with premixed coolant
- (40%-60% H2O for summer, 50%-50% or 60%-40% for colder climates).
- Note that for 4 cyl cars you need to remove the thermostat housing
- to drain (bottom of pump) and you refill or flush through the regular
- radiator cap, though sometimes I have found it easier and faster to
- just use one of the upper radiator hoses.
- VR6 cars are actually easier as they have a drain plug (finally).
-
- Following herewith are some additional details.
-
-
- [Most of this is from ND with comments added]:
-
- 4 Cyl Cars
- ==========
- The proper way to renew the coolant is to remove the thermostat
- so as to drain the complete system.
- Also don't forget to turn your interior heat to max as to drain that too,
- and to open the radiator cap to let air in.
- [ND] When we do a Coolant service at the shop we replace the thermostat and
- o-ring with our special low temp 80 Celius unit from Germany.
- [JAN] I am not sure whether that is advisable in colder climates
- as the engine may never heat up.
- [From Jens]:Correct! The German thermostat starts to open at 92 deg. C.
- and is completely open at 108 deg. C.. In April 1979 VW changed the niveau
- of the engine temperature by +5 deg. C. to make the engines run
- better and longer!
-
- If you still have the stock Fan switch we recommend
- to replace it with the our low-temp unit which will allow the fan to
- come on a little early to keep the temps down. If you replace the
- thermostat we always drill a small air relief hole [1mm] in the main plate of
- the thermostat so as to prevent a air pocket to develope at the
- thermostatic bulb and cause the unit to stay closed. Just had a call
- from a VW owner back east who had this problem. He called to thank me
- for figuring out why his VW overheated after changing his thermostat.
- [Jan: I usually don't do it that way, instead I loosen the upper
- radiator hose and poor the coolant through several channels and then
- squeeze the tubes to let the bubbles out. However, do carry the rest
- of the coolant with you on your next drive just in case.]
-
- Another trick to get around the airbubble problem came from Donald Borowski:
- Heat up the thermostat on a pan of water until it opens, and then insert an
- asprin pill as it closes. This will keep it open long enough to
- fill the system and get the air out, and then will disolve.
- I don't think that acetosalicylic (sp?) acid is very strong, and
- the amount is rather small.
-
-
- [Written by Jan]
- 6 Cyl Cars
- ==========
- The VR6's have a drain plug located right next to the dip stick.
- So the whole process is much easier than the 4 cyl cars. You reach
- the drain plug with a very long screwdriver (from under the car),
- and when the plug pops off, make sure you dont swallow any fluid as
- it is deadly if ingested.
- The flushing procedure is very similar as the 4 cyl cars except that
- you dont have to mess with the thermostat, nor does there seem to
- be the problem of the bubble (but I am not 100% sure).
- To put that plug back, I just use my "crows claw" emergency pick up
- tool (comes with a flex handle, Sears and other hardware stores sell them).
-
-
- Whatever car you have, always take some premixed coolant fluid with
- you on the next drive, in case a bubble did move out and you need to
- top off the coolant.
-
-
- Q: I want to flush my cooling system. Where can I get phosphate free coolant
- other than at the overpriced dealer prices?
- A: Phosphates corrode aluminum (all VW heads) through an electrochemical
- reaction with the cast iron block, which is why VW recommends to use
- phosphate free coolants.
-
- According to [scornelius@ws11.iac.honeywell.com] Aluminum oxide in solution
- forms a black paste that makes a real mess, this will be visible inside the
- coolant bottle once the corrosion process has started (I've seen this in a
- custom street rod). So if you see a used VW with this condition, run
- away....
-
- According to [Vincent Yeung] who called Prestone:
- Phosphate free anti-freeze is necessary in Europe because of
- the very hard water they have there. Somehow the phosphate in
- ordinary anti-freeze will react with the minerals in the hard
- water. However, he said the water in North America is not as hard
- and he knew a lot of VW with aluminum radiator have no problem
- using ordinary anti-freeze with tap water.
-
- In the US market, all the popular brands until recently (Prestone, Zerex)
- contain phosphate in a buffered solution which keeps the phosphates in the
- coolant from ionizing (so they claim), at least for a while.
- I have used Prestone without seemingly ill effects, but if you want to be
- 100% sure, not void warrantee, use VW's coolant. Furthermore, mix with
- DISTILLED water, NOT tap water. Also do not mix coolants of different
- types. Flush the system before you change!
-
- A counter point from Jens:
- It is not such a good idea to use destilled water, best is tap water which
- has been boiled in a pot so that the calcium is left there and cannot harm
- your cooling system. Destilled water is too aggressive.
- [Jan]: I checked with some chemists on alt.chem and they cannot see why
- it would be too aggressive.
-
- Newer coolants by Prestone (4/60), Arctic, Quaker State and
- BASF's Zerex Extreme are phosphate free,
- and are sold with different labels as to clearly identify the new product.
- They are selling these phosphate free products for environmental reasons!
-
- They all advertise around a 4 year-50/60k miles life expectancy.
- Whether that's purely marketing (the stuff costs more) or a significant
- difference over the original formulations (that probably will last that
- long as well) remains unknown.
- Unverified claims: Texaco's coolant is also Phos free.
- Whether these have any long term harmfull side effects (probably not)
- still remains to be seen (these products were introduce in 93 in the US).
-
- Note that VW's coolant is also made by BASF, but seems to be
- as slightly different formulation than their commercial Zerex product.
- According to BASF, Zerex Extreme has been approved to be used in
- VW, BMW, MB, Audi, Saab, and Volvo.
-
- Sierra's new anti-freeze is based on Propylene Glycol (environmentally safe).
- Propylene Glycol is used as a "light" oil substitute in foods and is
- therefore not as deadly as Ethylene Glycol.
- See also below for more details.
-
- ND has the following to say about Sierra:
- "Total marketing !! This is just another coolant with a different formula
- and since most all coolant is recycled now the enviro aspect is mute.
- This stuff will not work any better than any other coolant. Almost all
- coolant nowadays is ok to use in your VW. Just make sure it was designed
- for Aluminum heads which is almost all of them now."
-
- Another thing to note is that VW claims that its original coolant
- does not have to be renewed every two years like Prestone.
- The reason they give that coolants like Prestone have sacrificing
- chemicals that prevent corrosion for a certain period.
- VW claims that their coolant does not have any sacrificing
- chemicals and therefore does not wear out.
- Personally, I don't think this is entirely true, and as a precaution,
- I change the coolant of it turns color or every couple of years.
- In some of the cars I have owned they coolant looked perfectly
- fine, in others it turned reddish brown after a couple of months.
-
- From Jens:
- No precaution necessary. There are people (like me) who used the same
- coolant for more than 10 years without problems. CAUTION: After changing
- metal engine parts (thermostat housing, cyl. head) you should always
- change the coolant to protect the new parts with the anti corrosion
- of the coolant. The anti corrosion worked up by this process and the
- old coolant has not enough anti corrosion to work on the new parts.
- Also, change anti corrosion after you have changed a defective cyl.
- head sealing (because it may have let exaust gas into the coolant which
- is chemically "destroyed" by the gas).
-
- Best coolant in Europe seems to be Glysantin by BASF, there is nobody
- who would use anything different (except all Shell-, Texaco-, BP-,
- ...-stations who sell their own stuff, of course). Glysantin protects
- the aluminum cylinder head of corrosion, it builds a thin film on all
- parts of the cooling system to protect them, it makes the coolant pump
- last longer (even made my old loud "non-Glysantin experienced" pump
- go quiet) and does not harm the environment (at least not more than
- other coolants). And: when Glysantin changed its colour from brown to
- green, VW's coolant colour changed from brown to green, too ;-).
-
- This is not an endorsement of either products. I have no idea as to their
- effectiveness.
-
- See also the archive file "Anti_Freeze" for additional details, and the
- performance faq on improving heat transfer.
-
- Q: What's the easiest way of removing a water pump (A1 & A2 VWs)?
- A: The idea is to remove the *entire* pump assembly first, and separate the
- pump halves outside of the car. To remove the entire pump assembly, you
- have to remove all "fan" belts, pulleys, the drive belt covers, unbolt the
- alternator and move it out of the way somewhere, unbolt and reposition
- the power steering pump (easy once you locate the bolts, there is
- one on "the other side" that needs to be accessed with a long extension bar,
- don't need to disconnect the hoses), and unbolt and relocate the AC
- (don't need to detach any hoses here either).
-
- Then removing the pump is trivial. It's just the rest of the
- stuff that's a pain, depending on the model.
- Be patient, there are several hidden bolts/nuts that attach the AC and
- power steering pump.
-
- Tip: Loosen the pulley bolts BEFORE removing the belts.
- If you are lucky, there will be enough resistance to keep the pulleys
- steady. If not, I have gone as far as to use a pipe wrench to hold
- the pulleys steady.
-
- Another tip: If your pump leaks between the halves, it's safer to replace
- the pump as one unit rather than the impeller half. Chances are that the
- leaking pump is warped, and no matter how often you replace one half, it'll
- *always* give you problems. Use anti-seize on the bolts during reassembly.
-
- While you are at it, check or replace the thermostat. They do get lazy
- after a while. Checking/replacing the hoses may not be such a bad idea
- either (note: they last ~ 70k miles or ~10 yrs IMHO).
-
- On A1 Diesels (maybe A2) however it's easier to remove the timing belt, and
- then remove the impeller half of the pump. However [Borowski] the timing
- belt need not be removed on cars without air conditioning. Once the
- alternator bracket is removed, the water pump comes out easily.
-
- Tip from Greg Welch:
- Stay away from non-OEM waterpumps. Some are sold with smaller
- impellers and as a result do not pump as well (you run hotter).
-
- Q: How often should I change my drive belt?
- A: 8 Valve engines, around 60-75k miles, 16V's BEFORE you reach 50k miles. 8V
- engines will NOT be damaged if the thing breaks, 16V will be.
- The VR6 engines use an actual chain rather than a synthetic belt and do not
- have to be changed.
- The only exception to the 8V rule is the Heron head used on European
- A1 GTIs and on the European 1.05l and 1.3l engines from 1983 on
- (not sold in the USA/Canada). It does interfere.
-
- Note that tensioning the belt correctly is tricky, if it's too tight you
- may prematurely wear out a bunch of bearings.
- VWs recommended method is that you should be able to turn the belt 90 deg.,
- in the middle of the crankshaft and camshaft wheel,
- holding it just between your thumb and index finger and using no brutal
- force. The problem is that we all have different strengths, and therefore
- this adjustment is easy to get wrong. Generally I found that the
- belt is on snuggly but not tight.
- If it's on too tight, you'll hear a characteristic whining/high pitched
- sound. <NOISE>
- From [Lee Hetherington]: THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS TO SET THE TENSION BY
- TRIAL AND ERROR BEFORE YOU PUT THE COVER BACK ON.
-
- From Jens:
-
- There is another way to check for correct tension on the belt.
- Try to lift it from the camshaft wheel, it should be possible.
- The gap between the belt and the wheel should be about half the height
- of the tooth height of the camshaft wheel:
-
- __ __ <-- belt
- __ | | __
- ||_||
- |___| <-- camshaft wheel
-
- I got this from an "engine man" and checked it out at two VW service
- stations (and on several cars): it works reliable, no more trial and
- error.
-
-
-
- Q: I hear an intermittent high pitched chirping noise that comes <NOISE> and
- goes when I rev the engine?
- A: This could be caused by a bunch of things.
- First check whether all the belts are on tight enough, but also not too
- tight (there is a difference between a belt slipping, e.g., when you go
- through a puddle, and a bearing being over stressed).
- Remove all belts, and if the noise persists, suspect the drive belt
- tensioner. (You can actually feel it vibrate when it chirps, but don't get
- your fingers stuck).
- They are easy and cheap to replace, see elsewhere for a replacement
- tensioning tool.
- If that's not it, and the drive belt is not on too tight (see above) then
- you may be in trouble.
-
- Q: How do I know whether my water pump is going bad?
- A: Obviously if it starts to leak either through the pump half seam or the bearing (the little hole on the bottom).
- However, there are also other failure modes you have to be aware of:
- If the car makes a grinding whish-whish-whish sound when cold <NOISE> which
- diminishes as you drive, the pump bearing may be failing and the impeller
- is machining the pump housing into slivers.
- To check for this condition, remove all belts, and spin the waterpump
- pulley. If it turns well damped and smooth, it's fine. If it feels gritty
- and crunchy, it's machining itself. If on the other hand it spins loosely,
- the impeller may have detached itself from the shaft.
- Note that you should not mistake the grinding whish-whish-whish <NOISE>
- sound from a regular whish-whish-whish noise. <NOISE>
- In this case the belts may be simply getting hard or the pulleys are out of
- line.
- To check for this, take a can of Silicon spray and spray it on the belts
- while the car is idling. If the sound disappears immediately, you found the
- problem.
- Either replace the belts, or use some hard soap on them (but don't lose
- your fingers for this either).
- If the pulleys do not line up, check whether any of the bushing are worn
- (e.g., the rubber alternator bushing as found on older A1 VWs is notorious
- for wearing out). Otherwise use spacers and O-rings to get them to line up.
-
- Q: Why the hole at the bottom of the impeller housing?
- A: To keep the bearings dry. Moisture is the death of bearings. Seals are
- never quite perfect, thus the hole. From: borowski@spk.hp.com (Don T.
- Borowski)
-
- Q: Where are the timing marks on A1 & A2 VWs?
- A: At the top of the clutch/bell housing you will find a plastic plug. Pulling
- the plug allows you to use a magnetic factory sensor. If you want to use a
- strobe, you will have to *unscrew* the whole plug assembly. Then you'll see
- a reference mark, and an arrow somewhere on the flywheel:
- Mark in hole: [ ]
- ^
- flywheel: |
-
- Normally the two have to line up under normal idle & a strobe connected to
- cylinder #1. Some cars require certain vacuum hoses or the idle stabilizer
- to be disconnected. Check manual.
-
- Note: Some cars (e.g. 87 & 88 GTI 16V) also have marks on the front pulley,
- with an arrow on the end of the block.
-
- Note: Excessive advance raises combustion temperatures and pressures, while
- excessive retard extends the burning cycle through the exhaust and raises
- exhaust temps. (Mark Shaw)
-
- Q: My radiator leaks, what should I do?
- A: Replace it. In most VWs this is pretty easy to do (1 hr), and a new
- radiator (which is = OEM) can be had for around 100-150US$. The hard part,
- esp. in older cars and in Europe, is finding the right radiator. Even VW
- does not keep track of what car left the factory with what radiator.
- Furthermore, the serial numbers are not very useful because they may not be
- available anymore.
- What you need to do is first measure the core length of the radiator, then
- determine whether it has an external recovery tank, and then determine
- whether it is screw in mount (mostly pre-82) or the newer pin-points
- (Wolfsport has some good explanation of this).
- Now you need to decide whether you want the same radiator, or a larger one.
- Most VWs come pre-drilled to accept certain larger radiators.
- Larger radiators are used in cars with A/C, or if the car is destined for a
- warmer climate (though that may not be where the car is sold).
- You also may want to install the largest possible radiator if you
- autocross, do long desert runs or tow something.
- A larger radiator allows a larger cooling capacity, which means it can
- dissipate heat quicker. This does NOT mean that it will run cooler on
- *average* because that's controlled by the thermostat (a.k.a. "aquastat" in
- some places).
- Some 3rd party places (e.g., JC Whitney) sell generic radiators with a
- conversion kit which are much harder to install, and not recommended.
-
- Whatever you do, avoid the temptation to use one of those Stop Leak
- products at all cost because it'll block more than just your leak (like the
- heater core). rgolen@UMASSD.EDU
-
- Q: What causes engine knock/pinging/detonation? <NOISE>
- A: Too much advance. Check Timing. Also check VALVE timing. Too low gas
- octane/too high engine compression. Engine overheating. Carbon build up on
- valves. An improperly torqued knock sensor can cause the sensor to not
- function correctly resulting in knock and/or loss of power. Failing knock
- sensor.
-
- NOTE: Do not mistake engine knock or pinging for other problems. Knock
- occurs under load (e.g., accelerating, going up a hill, fast driving).
- Knock seldom occurs under no load conditions (e.g., idle or revving the
- engine). If you hear a rattle there <NOISE> it may be something else:
- valves, bearing, wristpin slap, etc.
-
- Q: I have an A2 VW and I hear buzzing from the rear of the car? <NOISE>
- A: These cars have two fuel pumps: The transfer pump which is mounted *inside*
- the gas tank, and the regular pump which pumps the gas to the fuel
- distributor.
- Just before you start the car (key in "on" position) you should hear a
- slight buzzing that MUST go away after 5 seconds. Whenever the buzzing
- noise becomes increasingly more audible while driving, it may indicate that
- one of the pumps is about to fail. Changing the fuel filter may help.
- Bentley manual has a procedure to check the health of the pump, basically
- by measuring the current being drawn.
- Cleaning the fuel filter screen with the transfer pump also seems to help.
-
- The transfer pump makes a 'wugga wugga wugga' noise when the key is turned
- on, and then goes away.
-
- Q: I seem to have lost power?
- A: Check the following:
- - Vacuum hoses
- - Fuel Filter
- - Ignition timing
- - Valve timing (belt may have slipped)
- - Spark plugs
- - Valve clearances (older cars)
- - On G60's: Some batteries have an overflow tube that dumps acid on the
- intercooler tubes => holes => loss of power.
- - You may be running to hot, inducing knock, retarding timing in new cars.
- - Other defects...
-
- Q: What are the correct spark plugs for my car?
- A: Check the manual, however the manual/Bentley/dealer may sometimes be wrong.
- Here is some info collected over time:
-
- Some regular Champions do not work well with VWs.
-
- Bosch are the stock plugs, and work well in most VWs.
- NGK seems to be a suitable replacement for some cars.
-
- 8 Valve up to 87: WR7D? where ? = S, P
-
- 9A Engines (16V from August 1989 - present):
- Bosch FR6DS - ZVP121086S
- Bosch F6DTC - equivalent (see differences below).
-
- Corrado G60: Bosch W6DP0 - VW# 251 201 511A (at 16US$ EACH!).
- Corrado VR6: Bosch F7LC0R2 - Weird beast! Bosch/Autotech listing
- Bosch FR8LPX - Recommended by EIP Tuning!
- NGK ZFR6F-11 - VW now sells these as a replacement
- Some claim it makes the car less snappy
- NGK BK5EKU/BKR5EKU - These seem ok
- Champion C9MCC - OEM, manual incorrectly lists these
- as Bosch plug, seem to work better
- than the Bosch F7LC0R2
- Autolite AP3923 - One of the Corrado list favorites.
- [The non Pt one is 3923]
- Needs regap to .028" (.7 mm)
- are way off
-
- Golf & Jetta III,
- Cabrio
- with ABA engine Bosch FR8DS - 101 000 044 AA, see TSB V28-94-01
-
- Jetta GLX, Passat GLX,
- SLC with AAA engine NGK BK5REKU - 101 000 035 AB, see TSB V28-94-01
-
-
- (see also the Performance faq on additional sparkplug info).
-
- Q: What does the Bosch spark plug number mean?
- A: For example: WR7DTC
-
- W = Diameter (?) W= 14 mm (?)
- R = Resistor (Radio interference suppression, not vital(?))
- 7 = Heat Range (lower numbers = colder plugs)
- D = Length (?)
- T = Tri-cathode. If missing, single cathode
- C = Copper Anode
- Other values, Missing = Carbon, S = Silver, P = Platinum
- 0 = Final character, Special Electrode configuration (see below)
-
- Q: Why is the G60 plug 15US$? What's so special about it?
- A: The WR6DP0/W6DP0 plug is closer to a performance plug because it gap is not
- covered with the little prong but rather exposed to the combustion
- chamber. Supposedly it gives you a better combustion and the engine runs
- cleaner. It's also a Platinum plug.
- The final character "0" designates this
-
- Conventional:
-
- === <==Gap
- // []
- -------
-
- W6DP0
-
- Gap
- \/
-
- = []
- // []
- -------
-
- Q: Should I use Platinum plugs? [Note, Bosch & NGK & Others make them].
- A: Only if it is recommended by either the sparkplug or car manufacturer. The
- results have so far been mixed. Some people feel a marked and sustained
- improvement over regular copper or silver plugs others felt a decrease in
- performance and cold starting.
-
- Q: How do I adjust the gap on Platinum sparkplugs?
- A: Depending on the type of Platinum sparkplugs, to make the gap smaller, you
- gently tap the cathode on a solid piece.
-
- Q: I need to replace my muffler. What should I get?
- A: See the performance FAQ and also the archives on this!
- <ADD A SECTION ON HOW TO FIX EM>
-
- Q: How do I remove the oxygen sensor? It seems frozen.
- A: [From: rkast2+@pitt.edu]
- First you need the right 22mm wrench. And now the story from Rajiv: Then he
- explained to me the secret of how he got it off.
-
- [Applicable to the 1 wire systems attached to the exhaust manifolds ONLY,
- the heat would ruin the catalytic converter, for those mounted on the
- converter]
- The sensor area needs to be heated, either by running and/or torch. Then,
- you spray lots of penetrating oil into the slight crack, where it gets
- sucked in by the pressure drop and by the cooling. This gets the lubricant
- to the threads. (I remember hearing that drilling holes just to the threads
- is a good idea). Keep doing this repeatedly and keep applying the wrench.
- Sooner or later (took them 1 hr) it'll come off.
-
- There are two types of oxy sensor tools available. The most common
- one looks like a deep socket with a slot on the side, the other
- like a crow foot. Have a look which will fit the best for your
- car. Chances are that the crow foot provides you with the right
- clearance.
-
- Q: What does an engine compression test tell me about the health of my engine?
- A: There are different ways to check engine compressions, and they can reveal
- specific internal defects.
- General procedure:
- 1) Remove all spark plugs.
- 2) Ground center spark plug wire AWAY from the cylinders
- 3) Make sure you have a healthy battery & the car is at operating temp.
- 4) Attach compression gauge on cylinder 1
- 5) Put car in neutral & have friend push in clutch & accelerator
- 6) Have friend crank engine, note FIRST reading and reading after
- pressure stabilizes (3-5 cranks).
- 7) Note down readings and repeat for all cylinders
- 8) A healthy engine should have all readings near mfr's spec, and should
- be about +/- 10% of each other. If not...you are in trouble.
- 9) If one or more is low, but not adjacent cylinders (e.g. 1 & 3)
- suspect either a burned valve or worn rings. If adjacent cylinders are
- low, also suspect a bad head gasket or a warped head.
- 10) To determine whether it's rings or valve, do a leak down test => Add
- a couple spoon fulls of regular engine oil to the engine through the
- spark plug hole of the offending cylinder
- 11) Repeat measurement. If it remains low => Valve/Head, else if the
- readings jumped up => Rings.
- 12) To distinguish between head vs valves => see a professional. They'll
- lock the drive shaft, put air pressure on the cylinders and watch for
- bubbles in the coolant fluid.
- 13) Also the first reading and the final readings should not be too far
- apart.
-
- Q: How often should I adjust my valves (gas engines)?
- A: All/most? VWs made after 1985 have hydraulic valves, which adjust
- themselves. Cars before that need periodic adjustments.
- Check for the recommended intervals in your manual, do more frequently on
- older cars & with periodic compression checks. Badly adjusted valves reduce
- power, increase pollution and may lead to burned valves (valves cool thru
- contact with the head).
- It's a fairly easy job to do, you DO need two special tools: One to
- compress the valves and one to remove the adjusting shims. They can be had
- at most car specialty stores.
- All VW engines based on the old 1500 thru 1800 block use calibrated metal
- shims (tappets) the size of Alka Seltzer pills for adjusting the valves.
- You first measure your clearance, then determine how much off it is, take
- out the old shim, calculate what new size you need, and race of to your
- parts supplier (or use a shim from another valve).
-
- Q: What's a CAM "saver" cover, alias CAM splash guard, alias CAM cover baffle?
- A: It's piece of plastic that fits between the actual CAM cover and the upper
- CAM bearings (just wedged between the two). When the car is running, oil is
- splashed around a lot in the CAM chamber (just try it...you'll have to
- repaint your garage) and sometimes saturates the positive crankcase
- ventilation valve.
- The PCV is connected to the breather tube on top of the CAM cover and goes
- to the airfilter box. When the PCV gets saturated it my drip oil into your
- airfilter box. The CAM saver cover prevents oil from splashing directly on
- to the inner CAM cover, and also allows oil to drip back directly on the
- CAM providing extra lubrication instead of just sliding back along the
- sides. Both VW and certain after market places sell these barriers for
- about US$ 15.
- Many of the newer VWs (87 GTIs) have such a barrier installed as stock, but
- you can often retrofit your car with it as well.
- Note that these things not always fit quite right... According to Graig:
- You need to buy a new cam cover gasket set too as you'll be junking your
- old one when you take the cam cover off. If you have an aftermarket cam
- cover, trade it in for a factory one, as the actual oil breather itself has
- a better baffle (rather than just a screen or mesh like in some aftermarket
- ones). This is a safe preventive too, even if you don't autocross.
- Everyone who even thinks of driving their VW hard should put one of these
- baffles in there
-
-
- Q: My valve cover gasket leaks oil?
- A: [From Andy]:
- On most A1 & A2 cars you usually have to change the can cover gasker
- anywhere from 1 to 2 times per year because they leak.
- This is because the metal gets hot and then cold and twists.
- This allows the oil to seep through and the gaskets start to leak.
- I was told that the aluminum corrado covers fit on the 8V golfs/jettas.
- They do not twist under temperature changes, hence fever gasket changes
- are needed. I did not try to fit one of those on my engine yet, but
- will soon. So if you are getting tired of changing the $6 gasket, then here
- might be an alternative solution for you.
-
- [From Jan]: A good idea, however keep in mind that the Corrados also
- use a one piece synthetic gasket that's not that cheap! I think
- they fit on other 8V engines.
-
- Q: How do I remove bushings from a blind hole?
- (For example: small bushing on the right side of the clutch throwout shaft)
- A: There are several methods:
-
- 1) tap it (with a thread tap), screw a bolt into it, and draw it out.
- 2) this is real slick, and it often works (I use it for pilot bearings
- fill the blind hole with grease, find a bar that fits nicely in the
- bushing (often a junk part like the one that came out of it),
- slug the bar with a hammer and the hydrolic press will force out
- the bushing (really does work!!!)
- 3) You just get the appropriate bolt that will JUST thread into
- the soft bushing material. As you thread it in to the bottom it will pull
- the bushing out (when it hits bottom).
- 4) Cut/grind a washer so that it's just
- barely bigger than the bushing on two sides, and smaller than the
- bushing on the other two sides. Put a screw through the hole on the
- washer. Work this washer into the blind hole until it gets BEHIND the
- bushing (assuming the bushing doesn't go all the way back). Then
- straighten the washer out so that the two long sides are against the
- back of the bushing, and tug heartily on the screw with either a slide
- hammer or a prybar, depending on which presents the best potential for
- leverage (in my case, a slidehammer wouldn't fit into the confines,
- but a pair of long-nosed Vise-grips worked perfectly -- the long nose
- worked as a pivot point against a perfectly-positioned bulge in the
- differential housing, sort of like a wheelbarrow, and a good tug got
- the bushing out).
-
- Q: How do I check (and remove) for the inline FI filter
- in early A2 cars, and how do I remove it if there.
- A: This filter is installed by VW apparently to filter out
- contaminants remaining from manufacture that are in the fuel system *after*
- the main fuel filter, but will continue to catch junk the main filter misses.
- Pre-Digifant/Motronic A2's are affected (CIS, CIS-E).
- Failure to remove this bolt may clog the system.
-
- This filter is located inside the 'banjo bolt' that
- connects the fuel line to the fuel distributor.
- This bolt is hollow, and the filter, about the size of a long pencil eraser,
- is hiding inside.
- Here is the procedure I used to check for and remove the filter I
- found in the GTI:
-
- - Buy two copper washers to replace the ones on the banjo bolt,
- or you will suffer a fuel leak like I did.
- - HAVE A FIRE EXTINGUISER WITHIN ARM'S REACH!!
- - Start engine, and pull the fuel pump fuse while it is running
- to depressurize the fuel system, or a faceful of gas awaits.
- - Remove the banjo bolt associated with the incoming fuel line
- (don't confuse it with the return line) with a 17 MM wrench.
- A small amount of fuel will dribble out, nothing a paper towel or
- two can't handle.
- - If your bolt is hollow, celebrate and put everything back together.
- Torque bolt per Bentley's spec for your car.
- - If you see something inside, try to poke it out through the side
- holes in the bolt. That failing, whip out your drill with a 1/4
- bit, and *gently* apply torque with the bolt supported in a vise.
- In my case, the bit grabbed the filter, and I was able to withdraw
- it. Admire the filth, then clean the bolt well before reinstalling
- it with the new washers.
- Alternatively, you can also buy the new screw
- Part nos: Screw = N 0210715 Washers = N 0138128.
- - Don't forget to put your fuel pump fuse back, or the car won't start!
-
- Q: My exhaust bangs against the rear axle/my muffler hangers brake frequently.
- A: This is a common problem on certain cars (e.g., A1 Sciroccos and
- early G60 Corrados).
- Check the following:
- o Realign the exhaust pipes
- o Check front engine mount(s)
- o Replace the hangers with stronger units.
- The most common hangers used in A1/A2 cars up to ~1991 look like
- rubber donuts with some rubber in the middle. I bit like an "0".
- There are two stronger versions of the "0" hanger available:
- 840 253 147 A: It looks a tad different but probably work;
- 171 253 147 G: This looks identical to the original "0" but has
- has a chain molded internally and hence cannot be
- twisted sideways nor break.
-
- Some cars also use rubber donuts without a center piece:
- 191 253 147 A and they look like an "O" with a tab on one end.
-
- The newer A2 & VR6 cars use a different hanger system, and those
- hangers look more like a piece of stretched caneloni.
-
- o One thing to keep in mind is that stiffer hangers may increase interior
- noise (but may prevent your exhaust from bending).
-
- o Instead of using one stronger one, I have had some success with doubling
- up hangers.
-
- Tip from Ed W: Do you have a pre-1985 CIS VW? If so, does your car take a
- long-time (more than 3 cranks) to start in the morning? If you answered "yes".
- Then run down toyour local junkyard or VW parts source and get a
- fuel-injection relay from a later car.
- The newer relays run the fuel pump when the ignition is first
- turned on, thus pressurizing the system. My car now starts on the
- first crank when it used to take 3-4 cranks to start.
-
- Your pre-85 VW might already have a newer relay, but if not, I would suggest
- getting one.
-
-
- Q: How do you remove the two oil pan bolts that are closest to the tranny?
- A: You have to use a 1/4 inch driver 10mm socket with a swivel.
-
-
- Q: How do you remove/reattach the "rubber bands" that hold down the airbox
- in many VWs, my hands are too big to access it?
- A: There are a number of ways. Some fabricate a hook with a clothe hanger,
- or pull a string through the rubber bands and then pull, and one chef
- on the net uses a dough hook.
-
-
- ELECTRICAL
- ==========
-
- Q: On the electrical diagrams, do the circuit numbers have any meaning?
- A: Yes. VW uses Bosch numbering scheme, as do BMW & M-B. The most common ones
- are:
- 1 = Ground (0 Volt)
- 15= Switched Positive (Hot when ignition is on)
- 30= Always hot "12 Volt" (even though it'll closer to 13.4 Volt)
-
- [From Jens, still needs to be verified]:
-
- 31 = Ground
- 30 = +12V (always hot)
- 15 = +12V (when ignition is on)
- 50 = starter
- 1 = ignition coil, low voltage
- 4 = ignition coil, high voltage
- B+ = alternator main current
- D+ = alternator exciter (load lamp is connected to this one)
- DF = alternator input of regulator (not available from outside the alt.)
-
- Not Bosch scheme, but ...
-
- One important circuit for VW cars is X: it is basically the same as
- 15, but it is getting cold when 50 gets active, i.e. when you start
- the engine. Ventilator, rear window heating and other circuits which
- need a lot of current are connected to X instead of 15 to leave the
- current to the starter when it needs it. You should connect your high
- power amps/radios to X, also. Better no music for 5 secs. than pushing
- your car in winter.
-
- Q: My battery is not charging well, I am only showing 12V when charging rather
- than 13.4V. What is wrong?
- A: There are numerous causes for this. Most of the time the problem is fairly
- trivial. Going from cheapest to most expensive, try the following:
- See also charge light diagnosis below.
-
- - Check the ground connections, possibly install a new ground from
- alternator to battery rather than using the engine block/transmission as
- conductor. Forget trying to find the bad connection with an Ohm meter: Say
- your alt. puts out 50 Amps, you'll get a drop of 1 Volt for each .02 Ohm!!!
- Most VOMeters are not accurate enough in this range.
- So, those tiny little resistances that have build up over the years REALLY
- add up.
- Use a THICK (10 or less Gauge/"AWG"), multistrand wire.
- - Check the alternator wiring harness. Same reason as above.
- - Clean all related connectors (sand paper, file).
- - SOLDER ALL crimped connectors
- - Check for an unusual drain (unlikely but possible)
- - Check/clean/replace the alternator brushes (easy, see wear limits in
- Bentley).
- - Check the battery water level (use distilled water)
- NOTE: DO NOT ASSUME YOU HAVE A MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY BECAUSE IT
- DOES NOT HAVE LITTLE SCREW TOPS. MOST VW BATTERIES ARE NOT MAINTENANCE
- FREE AND THE WATER LEVEL SHOULD BE CHECKED PERIODICALLY!
- - Have the battery checked (it may be shorting out)
- - Have the alternator checked (diodes and regulator may be bad). Alternator
- replacement is by the way trivial. If the alternator is bad, upgrade to a
- higher amp one, especially in older cars and if you have a powerful stereo
- system or aux lights 90 amp replacements are the current "hot" ticket.
- However, some of the upgrades require a different wiring harness.
- ND for example sells these and calls them their "Massive Overkill"
- wires.
- EuroCar had a detailed procedure on this about 1 or 2 years ago.
-
- NOTE: Many car parts places will check out your alternator for free
- or a very low cost. Sears used to do it for free in the US if you had
- a DieHard battery, now they charge some nominal amount.
-
- - Replace battery connectors with better quality ones.
- (From D.J. Stern: number 1 or number 2 gauge Whitaker brass-terminal
- battery cables.)
-
- Q: How do I check the Alternator?
- A: [From Jens]:
- There is one correct way to check the alternator. All you need is an
- oscilloscope which has to be connected to D+. Let the engine run at
- 2000-3000 rpm, switch on everything that draws a greater current
- (lights, ventilator, rear window heating) and look at the scope:
- A correct alternator shows 12-13VDC plus a 2V "sine" (A). A defective
- alternator breaks down to 1-2V every time the "sine" comes down (B).
-
- __ __ __ __ __
- A: / \__/ \__ B: / \__/ \__/ \__ - 12V
- | | |
- | | |
- | | | - 6V
- | | |
-
- --------------------------------------------------------- 0V
-
- This is just a vague description, every book about car electrics
- should show you the "error pictures" (e.g. the "red Bosch book").
- With the scope, you can even tell WHAT is wrong with the alternator,
- e.g. short exciter diodes, broken ground diodes, shortened stator,
- without tearing it apart and check each single element.
-
- Q: My charge light does not behave as expected. What is wrong?
- A: Taken from EC (March 1994):
- The charges light is directly connected to the excitor part of the
- alternator. It provides the initial power to get the alt working.
- And it also provides alot of additional info:
-
- Engine off, ignition on, no charge indicator:
- - Lamp burned out, wiring break, internal alt failure, voltage regulator
- bad. Alt will NOT charge!
- - [From Jens]: Broken rotor wire.
- The alternator brushes may be bad which means too short, they should
- be at least 5mm out of their housing. If the brushes are wet or
- dirty cleaning can help, if not, you have got to change:
- o Bosch alternator: change only the brushes.
- o Valeo alternator: you must change the complete regulator :-(
- o Motorola alternator: the brush carrier has to be changed
-
- Engine running, charge indicator on:
- - Alt is not charging. Belt loose, bad voltage regulator.
- - [From Jens]: Exciter diodes broken
-
- Charge indicator on, engine & ignition off:
- - At least one of the 3 diode groups is shorted. Alt is only partially
- charging. Have it serviced/replace diodes.
- - [From Jens]: Plus diodes are shorted.
-
- Charge indicator out at idle, half intensity at higher rpms:
- - At least one of the 3 diode groups is open. Alt is only partially
- chanrging. Have it serviced/replace diodes.
- - [From Jens]: Bad brushes, see above.
-
- Charge indicator glows dimly under electrical load (most noticable at night):
- - Bad connection between alt and battery (see above).
-
- Q: Starting problems (hot or cold).
- A: Check out the electrical connections, and battery (see above under
- charging). Also check out functioning of the solenoid.
- If the problems occur only with a hot engine, consider the VW
- solenoid package that will cut out most other drain when starting,
- or the heat shield package (also from VW) for the starter.
-
-
- Q: What do the H1, H2...H4 designations mean?
- A: These are the type of Halogen bulbs used in US non-sealed beam lamps
- (reflector & glass) since 1985 and longer for the rest of the world. The
- same lamps are also used in fog/driving lamps. They are available in
- regular strength (around 55 W) and more.
- H1 - Single filament lamp
- H2 - Single filament lamp?
- H3 - Single filament lamp?
- H4 - Dual filament lamp
-
- These bulbs can be had at different strengths:
- H1 55, 100, and 130 watt
- H4 - 55/60, 55/100, 80/100, 80/130, 100/150 watt
- Anything bigger than the 55/100 -100 H1 you must have relays or you will
- fry the pins in the back of the fusebox.
- Note that only the stock strength are strictly legal.
-
- Tip: When installing new (Halogen) light bulbs in your car, make sure you
- DO NOT touch the glass part of the light bulb with your fingers.
- This is because the oil from your fingers gets so hot that it makes the
- bulb really hot and it explodes. [If you do, clean it off with a high
- concentrate alcohol: methanol, ethanol or isopropanol].
-
- Q: What's that extra bright red light on some European cars?
- A: That's a "Nebelschlussleuchte" (sp?), or rear-fog anti-crash light. Many
- of the newer cars shipped to the US have these incorporated (but not
- connected) into the rear lenses [Corrados, Passats, Audis]. Very effective
- in fog, snow and heavy rain.
-
- Q: Why does my fog light switch have two positions that do not have any
- effect?
- A: It's to switch on the rear fog light(s), which is often not connected in
- cars shipped to the US & Canada.
-
- Q: Why should I use Dielectric grease, and on what?
- A: Dielectric grease is a NON-conducting grease that seals out moisture and
- therefore prevents corrosion on electrical connectors. This also happens to
- be one of the main problems with older VWs, and currently one of the causes
- of bad idle/ecu (connector) failures. The jury is still out on this
- grease... some claim it will get hard. Others have suggested to use a
- conducting paste as used on aluminum residential wiring. The latter will
- aid in conduction, but should not be used in high voltage cables (spark
- plugs) or where several wires are adjacent because of potential shorts.
-
- Q: I lost the code for my radio. How can I get it back?
- A: The only sure way is to contact the dealer, but you may end up
- paying close to 100$ for either the code or a recode.
- Some suggest freezing the radio overnight which will reset the
- code to 0000, though it may also kill the LCD display.
-
- Hold on that code in a very safe place!
-
- Q: My radio never locks up if I disconnect the battery eventhough
- it is claimed to be a coded radio?
- A: The code has to be activated before it will lock up the radio.
- This is normally done right after you buy the car, but nowadays
- with the sad dealer service it is often overlooked.
- See the "coding radio" archive on how to do this, but it basically
- comes down to entering the code as though the radio had locked up.
-
- Q: How often should I replace my spark plug wires? How can I check them?
- A: Many of the performance shops recommend you change them every 30-50k miles.
- I am not convinced whether this is really needed.
- The general rule of thumb is that the wire's resistance should be
- around 12kOhms per foot, and not more than 50kOhms/foot.
- Check also for the specific values in the car's manual.
-
- [From Jens]:
- For your VW, best choice is to get the most conventional wires, spark
- plug wires with no resistance (just copper as conductor). Use spark
- plug connectors with built-in 10kOhm resistor for radio protection.
- Experience shows that changing the wires is not necessary before 8
- to 10 years, but you should take a look at the spark plug connectors
- every 7500km (~5000 miles). They tend to become corrosive and I have
- had cases of shortening high voltage to ground, too.
-
- Q: How can I install programmable wiper control in my car like the new
- cars have?
- A: The programmable wiper control allows you to program the interval time.
- Because VW does not like to add new knobs and wires, they have put all
- the control in the relay in a type of teach and play back mode.
- If your old windshield wiper relay part number is 191 955 531,
- then you can swap it with the programmable unit: 357 955 531 or
- the new number 1HM 955 531B for under US$40.
- Note, APS sells these control units for about 10US$ less. The APS part
- number is: 25-955.531
-
- The same unit is apparently also directly available from Bosch.
- It is called the 'Easytronic' wiper module and provides a 2 to 45 second
- wipe interval. The Bosch part number is 0 986 335 058 (at least in the UK)
- and is available from all Bosch stockists.
-
- To program is easy: Push down on the w-w lever, have it wipe once, bring
- it up and wait until you need to wipe again, then push it down.
- It'll use the same wait interval! Very clever, but not obvious.
-
-
- Q: What's this secret ignition switch I hear about? How do I close my
- electrical windows after I pull the key out?
- A: Most VWs built between 79-92 allow you to switch on the switched
- power (circuit 15) allowing your fan, lights, power windows, etc
- to work by doing the following:
- Pull back on the high beam lever all the way (and hold it there).
- The ignition "ON" postion should be activated while you are
- pulling back on the lever. If not, release the lever and pull back
- on it again. On some VW's the instrument warning lights come on,
- some others don't.
-
- However, a word of warning, you are using a rogue path and you can
- easily burn out switches.
-
- Tip: [From Ed Wodzienski]
- A dirty load reduction relay found on a lot of VW's can cause
- delayed (and NO) starting. Instead of replacing it (although its not
- too expensive), I opened it up and scraped the relay contacts.
- My car now starts in an instant and has been for close to three
- weeks. Not one single delayed start....
-
-
- TRANSMISSION
- ============
-
- See also the archives G60_Xmission_Mods, faq.vw.perf, Solid_Shifter,
- Adjust_Linkages, TrannySwaps, clutch, tranny.lube
-
- Q: What shift mechanisms do VWs use over the years?
- A: A1 & A2:
- Mechanical linkages
- Corrado & Passat (4 & 6 cyl):
- Cable linkages (The SLC/VR6 uses a SIMILAR mechanism as the G60,
- contrary to some "knowledgeable" car mags. The main difference is a
- counter weight on the SLC, and a different mounting bracket)
- A3:
- Mechanical linkages with counter weight, Cable linkages on VR6s
-
- Q: What size clutches did VW use over the years?
- A: According to Peter Tong:
- There are 4 sizes. 190mm early gas rabbit (A1s), 200mm diesel rabbits,
- 210 mm 83-84 GTI, 85-92 G/J/ (A2s). I think Sachs also sells a 215mm clutch
- kit as well - aftermarket.
- Many clutches in these sizes come for road and racing applications.
- You can also combine clutch discs with different strength pressure plates
- as well. 16V clutch is similar but has provision for the AGB tranny's
- larger input shaft.
-
- See also the performance FAQ on sport clutches.
-
- Q: How can I improve shift effort/meshing of my gears? First gear feels like
- there is something blocking it?
- A: First check out the linkage adjustments, regrease where needed, and older
- cars, possibly replace the old linkages/bushings. A special spacer tool is
- needed for one of the adjustments (A1 & A2) which happens to be exactly the
- same size as the skinny side of an audio cassette. Other special tools may
- be needed.
-
- [From Jens]:
- Old trick, used in (nearly) every (VW) service station because the
- results are much better than using the official method with the special
- tools. Disadvantage: you need a person who helps you.
- Sit down on the driver seat, your friend has to go under the car.
- Shift into
- - 3rd gear for 4 gear cars,
- - 5th gear for 5 gear cars,
- have your friend loosen the linkage and adjust the gear stick. Push it
- (smoothly!) to the right and have your friend link the two parts again.
- Try to shift into every gear, have a special eye on the rear gear.
- If you cannot succeed with this method, you can also try to adjust
- the linkage in 1st gear (of course you have to push to the left side
- then). Some people find this method easier and more effective than
- the first one. If you are anxious not to succeed, mark the original
- position of the linkage parts before losening them. You can then put the
- linkage into the original position every time.
-
-
- The end of the shift lever has a ball on it that fits into a cup.
- The cup wears and allows the ball to ride lower and lower. Pretty soon,
- the ball, with shifter attatched, is riding so low that you don't need
- to push down to bypass the reverse lock out.
- All you need to do is replace the ball and cup. While you're in there,
- replace theshifter bushings for the feedthrough.
- See the Bentley manual for an excellent description.
- BTW, you'll most likely have to drop the exhaust to get at the parts.
- I have done this operation several times on various models, and can
- honestly say that it can be done in about 2 hours or less if you
- have a torch to remove the old exhaust clamps.
-
- Also check out whether the motor/transmission mounts are ok, misalignment
- will cause shifting problems as will a dragging clutch.
- If your shifting effort is hard/stiff on cold days & grinds in 1st & 2nd,
- but easier once warmed up you may want to change to a synthetic
- transmission fluid (see performance FAQ).
-
- Also see the G60_Xmission_Mods, faq.vw.perf, Solid_Shifter for adding a
- counter weight to the shift linkages for a more "solid" feel, and
- Adjust_Linkages.
-
-
- Q: First gear grinds? <NOISE>
- A: Shift into third thirst then shift into first.
-
- Q: How can you tell if your synchro is REALLY shot?
- A: Let the car idle, and with out depressing the clutch move the gear
- shift into the gears you want to test.
- If the synchros are more or less ok your idle will dip (or as I found out,
- your car will start to move) w/o crunching.,
- If however they are shot, you'll hear a big grinding sound.
- Don't try it with the reverse gear, it has no synchro an will crunch
- majorly.
-
- An alternative is presented by Bill N Gallas:
-
- 1) Change the gear oil. If the car has >75K miles on the transmission
- this could help as the extreme pressure lubricants in the gear oil do
- wear out. This lubricant failure can manifest itself as syncronizer drag
- and binding. After changing the gear oil you may notice the problem is
- gone, :-) life is good!
-
- If not:
- 2) Drive the car for 15 to 20 minutes to get the transmission warm.
-
- 3) Accelerate the car to 10 to 40 MPH for gears 1 thru 4.
- a) engage the gear in question.
-
- 4) Leaving the clutch engaged, release the accelerator pedal.
-
- 5) If the gear select lever (gear shift) pops out of gear that syncro is
- bad.
-
- 6) On most newer transmissions when first starting out in reverse
- "ALWAYS" put the shifter into 1st gear, then shift to reverse. By
- doing this you stop the transmission and will eliminate gear chip
- damage to your reverse gear.
-
-
- Q: What's a CV Joint?
- A: Constant Velocity Joints (Joint Homokinetique (Fr)) connect the two ends of
- your two drives shafts to your differential and the wheels. They allow the
- drive axle to move and allows you to transmit power when you turn. The
- closest equivalent is a Universal Joint.
-
- Q: How do CV Joints go bad and how can I prevent it from happening?
- A: CV Joints wear out over time, like any other moving part. However they wear
- out prematurely when the boot that surrounds them cracks and lets in dirt,
- or when the CV grease deteriorates.
- The boots crack because of age or because of street debris, and therefore
- the outer CVJs (esp. with the more exposed CVJs in A1 cars) are most
- subject to tearing. To detect a tear in outer CVJ boot is easy: it'll throw
- black grease all around your inner rim, around your brake.
- Whenever you check your tire pressure, check for those signs.
- To detect a rip in an inner CVJ boot, and small cracks in the outer, you
- need to manually inspect them. If you detect a ripped boot early, you can
- get away by merely repacking the CVJ boot with CVJ grease and a new boot.
- NOTE: VW and Loebro sell boot kits, that includes everything you need for
- the job (about US$15).
- If on the other hand, you did not detect the rip early, or you hear a
- knocking sound when you turn, you may have to <NOISE> replace the entire
- CVJ, a messy procedure requiring special tools.
- Other symptoms of a bad CVJ includes increased & uneven steering effort
- while driving.
-
- CVJs also fail because the CVJ grease deteriorates over time because of
- heat exposure.
- Here too the outer ones get the most beating because of the heat generated
- by the brake disks.
-
- Generally, you should repack the outer (& change the boots) every 60k
- miles. The inner ones usually last closer to 100k miles. If however you see
- pitting and scoring of any of the inner surfaces you may as well replace
- them.
-
- Tip: [First heard from WolfSport, reported by [Borowski]) There are many
- times when both wheel drive shafts need to be removed (two torn boots,
- etc.) This is a perfect opportunity,to switch the CV joints to the opposite
- sides. They will then wear on different internal surfaces, extending their
- life.
-
- Q: What tool should I use to remove my inner CV Joint (driveshaft-to-drive
- axle flange) bolts?
- A: Most VWs use an 8mm 12 point internal spline, aka CV Joint tool aka triple
- square.
- Snap On triple-square CV socket, Part number (3/8" drive) = FTSM8C.
- KD #2304, fits in a 5/16" socket.
- Also available from other brands/dealer.
-
-
- According to Greg Moore: It's also the same fitting as is on the teardrop-
- style alloy wheel covers. [Verified: Tom Coradeschi]
-
- Q: How do I know my front wheel bearings are shot?
- A: They'll make a roaring "wowowowow" sound, and the noise <NOISE> may change
- depending whether you are heading straight or turning. Special tools are
- needed to remove the bearing (cost ~150US$) though the bearings themselves
- are around 30US$/each. Certain performance places listed above will sell
- bearings packed with synthetic grease (last much longer, racing
- applications).
-
- BRAKES
- ======
-
- See also the archive files: Repco_MetalMasters, Rear_Brakes_Tool,
- Solid_Shifter, Adjust_Linkages, and faq.vw.perf
-
- Q: What brakes do VWs come with?
- (Note the dates are +/- 1 yr).
- A: Pre-80:
- Fronts= (A1) Teves or Girling discs (early Euro had drums as well)
- Rears = (A1) drums, non-self adjusting
- Post-80:
- Fronts= (A1/A2)
- Kelsey Hayes ("Banana pads"): Sciroccos 8V, GTIs 8V
- Girling: 16V Sciroccos, >90 Passats & Corrados
- Non-vented rotors on most initially, vented for higher end cars.
- Rotor diameter increased over the years.
- ATE: Wolfsburg-built GLIs 8V
- Rears = (A1/A2)
- self adjusting drums
- Teves disc (high end)
- Girling: Wolfsburg-built GLIs 8V
- General:
- Later cars have brake proportioning valves, several types used, some are
- with the master cylinder (e.g., 84S) others are in front of the rear
- axle beam on the left hand side.
-
- Front Vented Rotor Sizes:
- 239 mm (9.4") A1/A2 models
- 256 mm (10.1")
- 280 mm (11" 4 hole, 6 hole for VR6) Corrados, Passats
-
- Rear Solid Rotor Size:
- 226 mm (9.0")
-
- For 14" wheels, you can go up to 10.1" rotors (and the matching
- calipers). For 13" wheels, 9.4" rotors is your max. If you want the
- 11" rotors of the corrado, then you need 15" wheels! :-)
-
- See also Brake_Upgrades
-
-
- Q: I need to change my brake pads, which should I get?
- A: This is a tricky question, and depends on what car you drive and whether
- you were happy with what you had.
-
- Normal driving, no problem with fade:
- Stock VW, or Mintex Silver pads. Repco Semi-Metallic are ok as well. Others
- like or prefer Wagner Pads.
-
- Autocross:
- Repco Metal Masters. Be aware that many have reported that these pads
- require significant more pedal pressure, especially when cold.
- Advantages: Fade resistant, less brake dust, no squeal.
-
- Q: Is it easy to change pads/shoes?
- A: On most newer VWs, changing front pads is next to trivial. Rear pads
- require more work because the piston needs to be screwed in which is either
- done with a allen (hex) wrench or a special tool. Rear shoes (drums) are
- probably the hardest, but still easy enough. Follow Bentley and/or Muir.
-
- Q: Do I need to turn my rotors each time I change pads?
- A: Another religious issue...
- In general: NO, unless your rotors are badly scored. If they are warped,
- replace (it's cheap and easy to do). Call places like APS & WolfSport.
- Note: If you take the rotors off yourself, turning them at a machine shop
- costs very little.
-
- Q: How often should I bleed my brakes and change the fluid?
- A: Brake fluid should be changed AT LEAST every two years. Bleeding should be
- done yearly and after an Autocross. Brake fluid absorbs water which
- corrodes the lines. Bleeding regularly will significantly increase safety
- and life of your brake components.
- DOT 4 fluids have a higher boiling point than DOT 3 fluid but are also more
- hydrophilic and therefore must be replaced more frequently than DOT 3.
-
- Q: What brake fluid should I use?
- A: Check the manual. Most older VWs use DOT 3. The newer ones use DOT 4 or
- Super DOT 4 (higher boiling point). Castrol makes one which is both DOT 3
- and 4 compatible with a very high boiling point.
- The only place I have found Super DOT 4 in the US is at the VW dealer.
- One of the dealerships here also recommends Wagner as an aftermarket DOT 4
- oil.
- The higher the boiling the better: Brake -> heat -> fluid boils -> bubbles
- -> loss in brake pressure -> crash.
-
- Q: How do I remove the screw that holds the front rotor in place?
- A: If a screwdriver & liquid wrench does not work, try an impact screwdriver.
- It's a screwdriver that makes a 1/4 turn when hit by a hammer.
-
- Tip: When changing the rotors, make sure you put a bundle of anti-seize on
- the inside of the new rotors so they do not get stuck to the hub.
- Also remove as much rust and gunk so that the rotors seat well.
- I had to take mine off the hard way: Heat until red, cool with cold water,
- hammer and use a pry bar.
- Also make sure you antiseize the screw that holds the rotor in place. If
- the head is messed up you can try reslotting, but chances are it won't help
- either.
-
- If the screw head is messed up be extremely careful with those easy-offs/
- screw or tap extractors.
- When they break, you cannot get them out.
- Andy's recommendation is to drill out the screw with the right diameter
- drill instead, rethread, and put in a new screw of a larger diameter. You
- don't want to make the hole too big either, though you could use a thread-
- locker to come back to the original size.
- Note that that screw is not vital! It only holds the rotor temporarily in
- place until the wheel bolts torque the rim/rotor/hub sandwich together.
-
- Q: I hear a "clunk" each time I brake/start? <NOISE>
- A: Check whether all the anti-rattle springs are still there (two per
- caliper).
-
- Q: How do I prevent my brakes from squealing? <NOISE>
- A: Chances are that you have the original semi-metallic VW brakes pads, which
- are notorious for this.
- First line of defense is to get that "anti-brake-squeal goo" (comes in a
- tube or a spray can) and apply it to the BACKS of all your pads. That stuff
- is essentially liquid high temp rubber that will dampen vibrations.
-
- [From Jens]:
- Two official methods. If your car has old style brakes (A1), simply apply
- some copper grease to the back side of the pads. For the new calipers
- as in A2, this method is forbidden by VW (do not know why). But VW sells
- stickers you can apply to the back side of the pads, although it may be
- necessary to drive a few hundred miles before applying them in order
- to make the pads smaller. A new pad with a sticker on its back side is
- normally to thick to fit into the caliper.
- [From Jan]: The stickers he is referring to is the same as the anti
- squeal "goo" you can buy, just in a different form.
-
- The second line of defense is to change to a different brake pad brand.
- See the Repco_MetalMasters file on this subject.
- (In short, do not get Repco MM's unless you want to race, their Semi-
- Metallics are closer to stock in brake feel, while someone else recommends
- Wagner pads.)
-
- Q: When standing on the brake pedal, my foot slowly sinks to the floor? What's
- wrong?
- A: You either have a leak or your master cylinder is shot. Don't bother trying
- to rebuild the master cylinder, unless you have access to high precision
- tools. Mexican made replacements tend not to last long. Get the German OEM
- ones or the VW one (same thing, more $$$$).
-
- Q: Problems with rear drum brake lock up?
- A: This can have many causes:
- - Out of round drums. Have them turned or replaced (easy, cheap)
- - Change shoes
- - Out of adjustment or self adjusting mechanism not functioning right
- - Handbrake cable out of adjustment
- - Proportioning valve out of adjustment or faulty
- - Incorrect cylinders installed (17mm vs 14 mm, they look very similar but
- make a 40% in brake pressure!)
- - Faulty master cylinder.
-
- Q: What grease should I use on the rear axles of my VW.
- A: A high quality Lithium based grease with Molibdenum disulfide (MoS2) (all
- VW shops have switched to this).
- In general you can use "Moly-Slip" grease where you used to use the old
- "White Lithium" grease. MoS2 works a bit like graphite in that it doubles
- the lubrication properties of the base grease.
- Note: Generally do not mix greases of different base, e.g., an Aluminum
- based grease with Lithium base. They may react and lose lubrication
- properties. Note2: CV Joints use a special grease, less viscous grease.
-
- >>>>VOLUNTEERS>>>>?????
- Needed: diagnosing problems
-
- MAINTENANCE
- ===========
-
- One of the best ways to keep your car alive is to perform periodic
- maintenance.
- Here is some data that applies mostly to the newer A2 cars.
- This data came from the VW manuals, Bosch dealer, and New Dimensions.
-
- New Car
- -------
- Do not change the oil until after the recommended initial 7500 miles.
- Apparently VW uses a special oil to break in the car. Do check the oil
- level on new cars frequently.
-
- Oil Change
- ----------
- It's a religious issue. The following seems to work:
- Mineral Oils: every 3000 miles or 5000 kms or 6 months
- Oils must satisfy VW norm 501 01 or 505 00 for turbo diesels
- Check the manual for appropriate weight for your
- climate. Typically, VW recommends 20W50 or 15W50 for
- warmer climates. 5W30 are only recommended for the artic.
-
- Synthetics: every 7500 miles or 12000 kms or 12 (?) months
- Oils must satisfy VW norm 500 00
- Check the manual for appropriate weight for your
- climate. Typically, VW recommends 20W50 or 15W50 for
- warmer climates. 5W30 are only recommended for the artic.
-
- Change oilfilter at the same time. VW's manuals say to change it every
- other oil change, but it's cheap insurance to change it every time.
-
- Oil Pumps
- ---------
- From Jens & unverified in the US:
- If you have an engine (A1) with the oil pump connected to
- the crank shaft directly (no chain between crank shaft and
- pump as in A2 engines) you should change the oil pump after
- 50000 miles! The wheel of the pump that is driven by the
- crank shaft is of such a poor material that it will not
- stand the force put on it any longer. MANY, MANY engines
- died the "oil pump death", but VW never recalled the cars.
- The problem is known in Germany, but I do not know in how
- far other countries noticed.
-
-
- Fuel Filter (FI cars)
- ---------------------
- Every 60 k miles (eventhough VW now claims it's not needed)
- but ND recommends every 30k or 15k if you use very dirty fuel
-
- OxySensor
- ---------
- Older A2s with Non heated sensors: 30k miles
- Newer A2s with heated sensors: 60k miles
- Do NOT neglect this. You will NOT be saving money because if the
- sensor goes bad it will quickly take your catalytic converter with it.
- And those are EXPENSIVE! See the archives for info on how
- to check the Oxy Sensor.
-
- Plugs
- -----
- Newer A2s: Every 30 k miles
- I often check them (gap) and clean them every 15k miles
-
- Rotor & Cap
- -----------
-
- Qs: When should the VR6 (Ed: & most other cars) distributor and rotor
- be replaced?
- As: [ND] Around 60K for the cap and rotor. Check them at 30-45k
-
- Alternator Brushes
- ------------------
- They wear out leading to inadequate batteru charge.
- Check periodically, replace if shorter than 5 mm.
-
- Transmission Fluid
- ------------------
- Synthetic Fluid: replace every 80k miles with synthetic oil, see archives
- ATF: every 15k miles - 30k miles max.
-
- CVJoints & Bearings
- -------------------
- Check boots often.
- Repack:
-
- Qs: When would you recommend repacking the rear wheel bearings
- on Corrados (Ed: & most other cars)? How about the CVJs?
- As: Bearings-80k or when you do a rear brake job and have the rotors pulled.
- CVs 80-100k or if a boot rips.
-
- Coolant
- -------
- Every two years or when it turns murky
-
- Brake Fluid
- -----------
- Renew every two years
- Purge every year
-
- Drive Belt
- ----------
- 8V: 100 k miles, but safer at 75k miles
- 16V/A1 Euro GTI: 50 k miles
-
- Belts
- -----
- Every 60 k miles. Put old ones in trunk.
-
- Coolant hoses
- -------------
- Unclear, but they seem to last about 100-200 k miles.
- If you see one go, replace them all because you'll never remember
- which was changed when.
-
- TIRES/RIMS/SUSPENSION
- =====================
-
- NOTE: Most tire/rim/suspension questions have been moved to the performance FAQ.
- The reason for this is that buying stock tires/rims/shocks is often
- more expensive than buying a better product.
-
-
- Q: How do I know whether my shocks are worn out?
- A: Shocks either lose their damping capability or freeze up. The result is
- that your car may not handle well (or safely). When you bounce the front of
- the car, a good set of shocks will stop the motion in less than one cycle:
- Bounce the car couple times, let go, and it should go up and a small amount
- down and then STOP.
- Just look at your old mechanics/physics books for damped and undamped
- impulse response of a spring and damper combination.
- Test for seizing: you press down, and it stays down. Note that Sport Shocks
- may be so stiff that it will barely move when you press down.
- Note also that this failure mode occurs mostly on A1 cars which put too
- much side loads on shocks.
- I [Jan] went thru several virtually indestructible Bilstein sport shocks
- due to this failure. Hold on that receipt for life time warrantee!!!!
-
- Also suspect your shock if you hear an excessive amount of swishing.<NOISE>
- That's cavitation (local boiling of oil) which usually accelerates wear.
- "Gas" shocks contain a chamber of pressurized gas that keeps the oil under
- pressure and prevents cavitation, increasing damping capabilities and
- reducing wear.
- For the front "shocks" you have two choices for replacement: You can either
- buy an entirely new strut (which is the whole assembly, usually sold in
- combination with springs) or replace the shock insert in your existing
- strut (cheaper, more work). Most of the time you replace the insert.
- The rear shocks are replaced as a whole, and fairly easy to do yourself.
- Note that the fronts tend to wear out long before the rears.
- Note, if you replace the front shocks you may want to consider replacing
- the upper strut bearings.
-
- Q: How do I know upper strut bearings are worn?
- A: Those are the black rubber and brass metal that stick out of your shock
- towers. They fail in two ways:
- - Rubber gets stressed out: They'll stick more than ~1.5 cm above the shock
- towers
- - Metal bushing worn: Steering will feel loose, you may hear a clunking
- noise at times. <NOISE> They are not that expensive (ca 25US$), and easy to
- do once you get the strut out of the car.
-
- (Mark Shaw) says something similar: If I can get the tips of my fingers
- between the top plate and the housing with the vehicle standing on a level
- surface, then the strut bearing has seen enough abuse. This was passed on
- to me by a friend who works at the VW Proving Grounds south of Phoenix. He
- also recommends that you use the ones with the "A" suffix on the part
- number ([jan] note many aftermarket places sell heavy duty versions of
- these, probably those with an "A")
-
- I do not change them unless the strut cartridges are also weak. Experience
- has shown me that in all cases strut bearings should be replaced when the
- strut cartridges are replaced.
-
- Note also that (Norm Heckman): A drop of 3/4" was given as a limit for auto
- safety inspection rejection in N.Y. state. (drop = after you jack up the
- car).
-
- Q: What is the proper tire inflation for my car?
- Should I use the number printed on the side of the car?
- A: Probably the best tire pressure to follow for average driving
- is the one printed on the door jamb, or listed in your manual
- of the car...at least it's a good starting point.
-
- When the tires are new, measure the profile depth on the sides and
- in the center of the tire, for all tires.
- Measure again after you have driven couple thousand miles/kms.
- The wear should be more or less even accross the entire tire width, with
- a bit more wear on the front than the rear tires (FWD cars!).
- This naturally assumes that your alignment is correct.
-
- If you find that the centers of the tires are wearing more, decrease
- pressure, if you find they are wearing less, increase pressure
- (radial tires, bias plies behave differently).
- If you find that the side of the tires are wearing uneven
- (or see other oddities), you may need an alignment.
- (See also the alignment archives on this).
- Generally if you load up your car with alot of weight, it's recommended
- to increase your tire pressures.
- Similarly, if you are planning to drive at high speeds for a longer
- period of time, increase the pressure.
- This will reduce tire flex, and hence will produce less heat build up.
- Also keep in mind that underinflation is one of the worst things
- you can do to a tire for that very reason.
- Higher tire pressures are also recommended to reduce the chance of
- rim damage with softer rims (e.g., 1990 Corrados, some 16V rims).
-
- The number printed on the side of the tire is merely the maximum
- inflation pressure for that tire, and is not meant to indicate the
- inflation pressure for your car.
-
- For performance driving see the performance faq.
-
- Q: What shocks are interchangeable between cars?
- A: Here is a list of what is interchangable between the various
- VW models in the strut-shock area. [From ND BBS]
-
- A1 Models = 75-88 Scirocco 75-84 Rabbit (Golf 1) 80-92 Cabrio
- 80-83 Pickup (front only) 80-84 Jetta 1
- know as A1 suspension design most US models use
- internal threaded struts ( can swap for external)
- all other use the same inserts and strut bearings
- Springs vary according to models
-
- A2 Models 85-92 Golf and Jetta 2 93- Golf and Jetta 3
- slight
- mods needed to A3 to use A2 struts as all A3 and some
- late A2 have sealed (throw away) struts housings.
- Springs vary
-
- Others Corrado G60 models can use A2 shocks in the rear
- but front are same dimensions but use a larger shaft
- and are designed for higher weight load.
- Strut housings are similar Strut bearings look the same
- But I believe the Corrado ones are stronger. We now
- offer HD strut bearings (VR6 Golf) for all the A2 style
-
- Q: What do all those numbers mean on my tire.
- A: See the rec.autos FAQs, the tire FAQ, and also the VW Performance
- FAQ for size info.
- For the other number:
- The last 3 numbers on the DOT code is the build date: 113
- means the tire was made in the 11th week of 1993, or 015 = 1st week of 1995.
-
-
- BODY/INTERIOR
- =============
-
- Q: My door sags, how can I straighten it?
- A: [From an old WolfSport catalog:] Place a 15 mm socket between the arm and
- foot of the lower hinge (to the outside of the hinge anchor bolt). You'll
- have to almost close the door to get & keep it in place. Now gently! exert
- some force on the door & the check alignment.
-
- [From Jim Macklow] I've had success with my wife's Rabbit by doing the
- following: Open door, then jack up door with floor jack, making sure the
- door is closed as far as possible.
-
- Q: How do I eliminate all the rattles, squeaks and buzzes in my car? <NOISE>
- A: VWs are unfortunately well known for this. Part of the cause is the rather
- stiff suspension and hard motor mounts that just rattles the car apart.
- Often the fix is easy once you find the cause. The following are a few
- tricks that I have used over the year that will help eliminate a good deal
- of them.
-
- Tip: Start with cleaning the inside and outside of the car, and remove all
- the coins and pens stuck in the seat rails. Then take a screw/nut driver
- and fasten all accessible interior screws and bolts. If a particular
- screw/bolt loosens frequently, use Loctite (tm). The bolt that holds the
- seat back adjustment knob is notorious for loosening and rattling. Have
- someone drive around while you go around and isolate where all the noise
- comes from.
-
- Another weird one that helps with some rattles and groans is to install a
- lower stress bar on A-1 cars that do not have one, and apparently an upper
- shock tower stress bar on all others (haven't tried this yet, but Aaron @
- APS claims that it helps surprisingly well).
-
- Q: Something in my dash rattles? <NOISE>
- A: That's probably the most common and most annoying place for it to happen.
- VWs have actually improved over the years and so we can learn from their
- attempts to reduce rattles. Most of the rattles are caused by loose wires
- and components touching the vent tubes or other solid material. VW often
- uses electric tape to hold things together, but over time the tape loosens
- and falls off. What you need to do is get a bunch of tie wraps, bundle
- everything back, get some "nerf foam" or sheets of black felt and position
- it between the wires, vents and other stuff. Using felt or foam between
- interior vinyl covered body panels also helps eliminate a lot of squeaks
- there.
- (Note that Corrados now have strips of black felt glued to the back of
- virtually all plastic panels).
- Another type of dash squeak is caused by plastic components rubbing against
- each other. Usually a dose of ClearGuard will help eliminate that but if
- you have the space try glueing some felt between the two.
-
- A tip from (Tim Hogard): Tighten the the two nuts that hold the dash in
- that are on the engine side of the firewall.
-
- On Ventos (TAY Chek Hee): Secure the cross member beam behind the glove
- box with a fastener.
-
- Q: My doors/hatch/vinyl squeak over bumpy roads, especially when cold? <NOISE>
- A: "Lubricate" the door seals with Talcum powder or ClearGuard. "Lubricate"
- the rest with ClearGuard or Silicone spray. You may also want to adjust the
- doors so they close better by first loosening the strike pin and moving it
- either in or out. The rear hatch lock can also be moved a bit, but it's
- easier to adjust those black knobs on either side of the hatch. They screw
- in and out.
-
- Q: My suspension groans when I go over a speed bump/other bumps? <NOISE>
- A: Check for squeaky muffler hangers, and sway bar bushing!
- Squeeky Muffler hangers sounds like: eee-eee-eee as you drive along.
- Sway bar bushings squeek when you go over a bump slowly, e.g.,
- a speed bump. It sounds like: eeee--aaaa, eeee-aaaa.
-
- Start with Si-spray. It usually cures the noise temporarily,
- but at least you will be able to identify where the noise is
- coming from.
-
- For a more permanent sway-bar bushing noise solution, especially
- if you have an aftermarket sway bar with polyurethane bushings:
- try the following:
- 1) Check the alignment of all the components.
- 2) Relube the bushings with a Silicone-Teflon grease.
- APS's sway bars now come with this grease and it works fairly well.
- 3) Here is a trick that I have not tried as yet: Score the bushings
- with coarse sand paper or fine saw. This will leave little
- indents where the grease can settle rather than squeezed out when
- you reassemble the bushings.
-
- The same tricks can be used for other rubber based suspension components
- (e.g., A-arm bushings).
-
- Q: Something in my door rattles? <NOISE>
- A: First make sure it's not a screw which is loose (lots hidden away). If
- that's not the case then take the door panel off and check all the screws
- inside. Tighten, use Loctite, possibly use foam and felt to prevent
- components from banging against each other. Some recommend installing a
- sound deadening material such as Dynamat (tm).
- Before putting the door panel back, you may want to use some foam strips
- (like the window air seals) to provide some spacing for the snaps.
- While you are at it, clean the drain holes and lube the lock & window
- mechanism.
-
- Q: How should I take care of my car's exterior? What products to use?
- A: Wash on a regular basis. First, hose down car, don't aim at locks, gas cap,
- etc. Also hose down the radiator & underside of the car.
- Use one of the available car wash products in a bucket & sponge down car.
- (All this to be done in the shade).
- I have tried several types of shampoo, like the RainDance, dislike the
- Meguire's shampoo, others like Blue Coral. Other suggestions are welcome.
- Rinse sponge often to avoid scratching the paint. Generally work from
- cleanest areas (roof) to dirtiest (front sides) of car.
- Avoid rubbing too hard as you may scratch the surface.
- Keep car wet (on a dry day in CA, the car dries almost instantly leaving
- water marks).
- Hose down soap, and with a fresh bucket of water and a chamois or a
- synthetic chamois, dry car.
- Again, rinse the rag as often as you can.
-
- Wax at least twice a year, with a good brand of wax. Wax only after the car
- has been thoroughly washed. Follow the directions of the product and either
- use clean rags or cotton wool to apply wax.
- Why wax? It puts a protective layer over your paint, and replenishes lost
- oils.
- Hard waxes (e.g., Carnuba based waxes) tend to last longer but require a
- lot of work.
- [Note: Latest word on this is that these waxes contain
- hardly any Carnuba any more]
- See what the local body shop uses (the one I visit use Meguire's
- professional line of products, but it's by no means the only wax. I like it
- as well (Hi Tech Yellow Wax #26), used to use RainDance wax but stopped
- because it is rumored to be too abrasive, hated Nu-Finish.
- The ultimate is Zymol, 800-999-5563, but it costs a lot! Others have
- had good results with Mother's.)
- Wax horizontal surfaces more frequently (hood, roof).
- If rain does not bead up and slide off the car, it's time to rewax.
- Polish your car sparingly, e.g., if you want to get rid of swirls,
- scratches or an oxidized layer of paint.
- Polishes contain fine grit and therefore are rather abrasive.
- You can get polishes with different grades of grit #2, e.g., see Meguire's
- line of polishers: Swirl Remover #9 (to be used last),
- Fine Cut Cleaner #2 (leaves a dull finish, removes small scratches), etc.
- The coarsest version of a polish is a rubbing compound.
- It will not leave a shine, and works just like a piece of sand paper.
- It is mainly used to even out portions that were repainted.
- Note that you can buy 1000, 1500 and 2000 grit sandpaper which in some
- cases is actually finer than some rubbing compounds.
- They may come in handy when you are trying to smooth a repainted scratch.
-
- Note that many "waxes" contain both detergents and polishing compounds.
- Some work quite well (e.g., DuPont's Rain Dance) but some find it too
- abrasive for frequent use. That's why it's better to use non-abrasive
- waxes, and only polish when you need it.
-
- Glazing compounds are a bit like wax:
- they replenish lost chemicals in the paint, but the protective layer they
- provide does not last very long (e.g., Meguire's Show Car Glaze #7).
- For a deep shine I often first use a glaze then
- a carnuba wax. I have tried some of the supposed once a year hi-tech
- "coverings" but was rather underwhelmed by the result.
-
- To get the wax off the black trim, use some detergent or Simple Green & a
- toothbrush. Then apply a vinyl/rubber conditioner on all
- rubber components. It'll slow the ageing process a bit and restore
- the color of the component (see below for product listing).
-
- To get the rims clean is a different matter, especially the alloy rims.
- VW's product is supposedly quite good, I would avoid most others as they
- contain extremely caustic (i.e., HF) acids. I haven't found the "best"
- formula as yet... I use Simple Green, dishwashing detergent and some
- polishing compound.
- To make your life easier, wax your rims. It'll also reduce pitting (which
- is caused by a galvanic action between the hot brake metal particles and
- your alloy). BTW, BBS rims are nice but a chore to clean.
- On the tires use one of the rubber/vinyl conditioner or one of
- products made specifically made for tires. They are usually sold in cans
- (Tire Shine), but I find it hard not to overspray all over the place (&
- that stuff leaves marks on the floor).
-
- To get windows real clean, wash with a strong detergent, perhaps followed
- by some alcohol. Then use Windex or similar product and dry most with
- rag/chamois and follow with a piece of newspaper paper. Works amazingly
- well.
- A product like Rain-X also cleans the windows real well as a side effect.
- Some have complained that Rain-X leaves a hazy film (can be buffed out with
- a *very* clean rag). Rain-X ("invisible windshield wipers") work quite well
- on some windshields but only last a couple 1000 kms, or about a month
- and a half.
-
- Inside the car I just use some light detergent and water to clean
- things. For the vinyl dash and other vinyl interior components I now
- use (again) Meguire's #40 spray. It's similar in function to products
- like Clear Guard and Armor All except it's not so greasy, slippery
- and smells better.
- Carpets and seats you just vacuum. It's not a bad idea to treat cloth
- seats and carpets with protective products like Scotch Guard.
- This is easy to do yourself and often sold at an enormous cost with
- new cars.
-
- Q: What are the best vinyl/rubber cleaners/enhancers/replenishers?
- A: Armor All was one of the first widely available products that would
- make greyed plastic and rubber components black again.
- However, it has now fallen in disfavor because of its drying out
- effect on rubber components causing dry rot when the these components
- stop receiving regular applications. I have used the stuff for over
- 7 years without the noted cracking and rot, but I may have been lucky
- and I usually do not hang on to my tires all that long ;->
-
- Currently recommended products:
- Clear Guard, Black Again, Meguiar #42, Harly Tire-Nu or Lexol Vinylex.
- Others have reported favorable (better) results with Turtle Wax's Black
- Chrome product for black bumpers and Westley's Black Magic.
-
- Here is a writeup sent to me by JBratek@aol.com from Larry Reynolds of
- Car Care Specialties, Inc, Saddle Brook, NJ, 201-796-8300, carcaresp@aol.com
- during a recent PCA workshop covering concour tips for Porsche owners:
-
- There are two main degrading agents that attack tires. They are UV light
- waves and ozone. Both of these attack the long hydrocarbon chains of the
- rubber and by breaking these bonds, shorten the molecules with resulting loss
- of elasticity and other problems. Tire manufacturers add two primary
- sacraficial protectants to the rubber. To protect against UV, they add carbon
- black. This is why tires don't come in designer colors to match your paint.
- The carbon black will turn white/gray as it absorbs the UV and dissipates the
- energy as heat. Thus the basis of rubber parts turning gray as they age. To
- protect against ozone, tire manufacturers add a wax-based sacraficial
- protectant. The ozone attacks the wax and depletes it. As the tire rolls,
- additional wax is forced to the surface of the tire. This is referred to as
- "blooming". This blooming refreshes the surface wax protectant. A tire that
- has not been flexed will have the wax depleted by the ozone and thus begin to
- degrade and suffer "dry rot". The silicone oil in Armour All et Al may
- actually dissolve the wax and be the cause of premature tire sidewall
- cracking/failure. In conclusion, any tire dressing should contain a UV
- protectant to bolster the efforts of the carbon black and not contain any
- silicone.
-
-
- Q: How do I clean my rims and get rid of that nasty brake dust?
- A: As far as I know, the jury is still out on this one.
- Here are a couple of suggestions:
- - The hard way: toothbrush, soap, simple green, lost of time, then wax
- - High pressure power washer (rumored to be too harsh)
- - Chemical products: Be very careful with these as some contain
- extremely harsh chemicals (Hydrogen Fluoride compounds) causing
- eventual discoloration or paint peeling from the plastic parts.
- Some chemicals that do seem safer are (I have no personal experience):
- o Meguires Mag wheel cleaner (approved and tested by BBS)
- o P21S wheel cleaner (approved by Porsche, BMW & M-B)
-
- Others that work, but I have no idea how harsh they are:
- Westley's Wheel Magic, ArmorAll Quicksilver, Busch Wheel Cleaner,
- Turtle Wax Wheel Cleaner for Mag Wheels
-
- Q: How do I touch up little nicks and chips?
- A: Supplied by (christopher.j.hapeman):
- Pat Goss of Motorweek did a spot on this some time back,
- there are many variations to this scheme, but the all follow the same
- guidelines [Jan]:
-
- Clean off the immediate area with rubbing alcohol. If there is rust
- in the chip, glue a small piece of fine sandpaper to a pencil eraser
- and rotate this in the chip until all of the rust is sanded off.
- [Jan: I just fold either 220 or 400 grit sand paper and use the edge
- to scrub the rust off. If I see pitting, I use Naval Jelly (Phosphoric
- Acid) to reduce the remaining rust]
-
- I think that he used a primer first and then the touch-up paint but I don't
- recall that well.
- [Jan: Primer is a good idea because it helps evening out the pit
- that you created. I use Galvanizing primer, sold under different brands
- such as Rustoleum. It's more rust resistant. After it dries I use
- 400 or higher grid sandpaper to level the primer out].
-
- He used the end of a match (matchbook type (cardboard))
- to apply the paint because the brush was usually too clumsy.
- [Jan: Use what ever makes sense. QTips, small brushes, the end of a
- bamboo BBQ squewer. For larger areas, I use a spray can directly,
- after covering the stuff I don't want to paint.]
-
- Fill the chip as much as possible letting the paint dry between coats
- until it is flush with the old paint.
- Let it all dry thoroughly and then polish the car (area).
-
- Q: How does paintless dent removal work?
- A: From Larry Keys:
- They're really, hush, hush, about it. They only describe their method
- as "the process". I'm almost certain that no magnets or hammers are
- used, since the paint is perfect and so is the smoothness of the metal.
-
- Someone posted on r.a.driving, that the process is actually an old one
- that's been around since the 50`s. Anyway, he went on to say that this
- process is used on airplanes to remove hail dents. The poster said that
- the metal skin of the plane was allowed to heat-up, or was heated, then
- dry-ice was applied to the area. Something to do with the expanding and
- contracting properties of metals?
-
- Jan: I had them take out a couple dents in my car, and all they did (in
- my case) is use a set of blunt tools to massage the dents of the inside
- panels out.
-
- Q: I need to repaint part of my car. What should I look for in a body shop?
- A: Probably the best you can do is ask several VW dealers where they send
- their cars for warrantee work (and ask them why).
- Also some of the more popular magazines will have recommendations
- but they are usually for the CA area.
-
- The first thing I look for is the type of paint they use.
- VWs are painted with a Urethane Paint by Hoechst or Glazurit, which
- is about as high quality as you can get [BMW & M-B use the same type].
- I usually try to stick close to the factory brand of paint because the
- pigment formulation is at least similar eventhough the solvents are not
- (the body shop cannot bake the entire car as the factory does).
- Paint fades, but having roughly the same pigment formulation will allow
- the repainted parts fade in roughly the same way.
-
- All body shops have to mix the paint to match your color, so you will
- not find any containers that say Alpine Weiss L90E and expect it to match.
- VW buys paint in bulk, and each batch differs slightly in color eventhough
- it may have the same color code.
-
-
- Q: How do I fix rubber components such a bumpers and spoilers?
- A: 3M manufactures a material called "Flexible Parts Repair Material".
- It is a 2-part putty that is essentially a rubber Bondo. I [Craig] have
- used it several times and am quite happy with it. I believe that
- the kit costs about $15.00 at your local body shop supply store.
-
- I [Jan] have used Shoe Goo at times to fix portion of my chin spoiler.
- Works rather well.
-
-
- Q: I cracked my windshield, what should I do?
- A: If the crack is small (<2 cm in diameter) and either out of your line of
- site or away from the wipers, you could have it filled
- with an epoxy compound. Some have reported good luck with this, I have
- not been very lucky.
-
- If the windshield starts cracking, you could try to drill a hole to
- stop the crack with a tungsten carbide drill bit, bit in all likelyhood
- it's not going to do much good. You still need a new windshield.
-
- I personally do not like the majority of aftermarket windshields.
- They are either weaker (crack much quicker), show distortions, introduce
- more wind noise, cause water leakage and therefore
- I usually get the windshield at VW or order the OEM windshield
- (Securit). They are more but I think they work better and seem to
- hold up better to stone chips.
- You may have to fight it with your insurance co though. I tell them
- that the aftermarket windshields are not E2 certified and therefore
- do not meet OEM specs.
-
- The windshield on older VWs are just held in place with the rubber
- molding, while the newer VWs have bonded windshields with a substantial
- higher installation cost.
- As always, you should replace *ALL* old seals when replacing a windshield,
- it's worth the extra cost to avoid leaks and rust.
-
- Look for a reputable place to install the
- windshield because in the newer cars the windshield is part of the
- structural integrity of the car.
- Some of the mass market and cheaper place DO NOT BOND THE WINDSHIELD
- ADEQUATELY. All they use is Butyl Tape, which stays soft and will
- pop out the windshield in the event of a roll-over. Windshields Of America
- lost a multimillion dollar law suit in Colorado because of this
- (I mention them because I am EXTREMELY dissatisfied with them as well:
- It took them 4 tries to get it right, and I am not even sure they
- used anything but butyl tape).
- According to the place I now go to (I loose one windshield every couple
- years) recommends P255FC Urethane for bonding the windshield.
- It becomes very rigid and you cannot prick it with a pin after it cures,
- while butil tapes feels soft and goo-y.
-
-
- Q: My seat material has ripped, how do I fix it? This is mostly dedicated
- to those with 85-87 GTIs. :-<
- A: Excerpts from the group:
- My 87 GTI 16V needed replacement 3 times. The first two were under
- warranty, the third time I decided on the DIY route.
- I checked the re-uphostery option, but was too much of an unknown
- result.
- I decided to buy the dealer part and do it myself. Took the seat out
- and removed the old bolster. As it turned out, there was a sharp
- weld bead right under where the rip always started!
- A few wraps of ye ole duct tape fixed that. I then re-installed the
- new bolster cover over the old foam bolster itself. This was a pain
- in the ass, because there are these sharp upholsterer's clips you
- have to re-bend into place (there may be a tool to ease this, but I
- used pliers). The whole thing took a couple of hours.
- Anyway, it held up after that. I'm convinced it was that sharp weld
- in the seat frame that caused it, and if you have a grinder you may
- want to grid it down to smooth it for extra insurance.
-
- Ok, here's two different versions of fixit solutions: #1 find a GTI with
- the same seats and get the passenger's seat $35 around my parts for a GOOD
- one with NO TEARS or Wear. Then disassemble it and re-cover your driver's
- seat with its parts. it's a little more complicated than just taking one
- out and swapping the other in as things like the seat belt and slider rails
- aren't exactly the same. (they are Really close, but not the same when you
- consider things like the seat belt mount point...)
- #2 Take the entire seat apart and recover it in a BETTER material. I've
- been running my butt across a material called Sunbrella (designed for use
- as boat cushion/boat top material). At first, it didn't seem as comfy as
- the original, but then again the other original wore out and has since
- been covered to match. Mine are done in black which ought to absorb as
- much of the scorching South Florida sun as anything, yet they are never
- hot like vinyl even when I have the glass sunroof removed at noon. I would
- hate to think what an upholstery shop would have charged to do the work my
- mom did re-covering my 2 fromt seats because this fabric is VERY un forgiving
- when you start stretching it over the frame. There were a few stitches that
- mom had to dismantle and re-sew to get to fit just right, but everyone who
- looks into my interior comments on my seats. (the rear seat is still done
- in the original fabric which is now starting to show its age 12+ years)
-
- Q: How do I treat my leather interior?
- A: I have so far not found any "miracle" solution.
- A variety of suggestions however exist:
- - Vacuum all the dust and sand from the seam (it causes the seams to tear)
- - Moist rag for occasional cleansing
- - Meguire's leather treatment
- - Saddle Soap and Mink Oil
- - Lexol Cleaner and Conditioner
-
- Q: How do I fix damaged undercoating?
- A: From JL Foster: According to VW:
- "Any detected damage to the undercoating should be
- repaired. Oil based protective sprays must not be applied.
- Only tar or wax based anticorrosion protectors are compatible with the
- factory applied undercoating."
- VW sells the product, but I have also found after market products
- in Europe by 3M that also meet this requirement.
- Note that VW "Sealwax" (AKR 321 M15 4) or 3M Rustfighter-I is the stuff
- they spray inside the cavities.
-
-
- MISCELLANEA
- ===========
-
- Q: When my Corrado spoiler retracts, it squeaks. What do I do? <NOISE>
- A: VW recommends to "Lubricate" the two "stalks" with Talcum or Graphite powder
- after thoroughly cleaning them.
-
- Note that baby powder used to be talcum, but because of the naturally
- occurring asbestos with talcum (I know, we are all doomed), baby powder
- sometimes contains corn starch instead.
-
- Note: Silicon spray is rumored to dry out rubber and is not recommended.
- *However* I have been using 100% Si spray and so far it's
- the only product that has worked the longest. In addition, I found
- that talcum powder tended to "bunch" up.
- (Note, that some Si sprays contain pertoleum destilates...you do not
- want that).
-
- You also DEFINITELY DO NOT want to use any grease, WD-40, Tri-Flo, etc.
- This stuff is incompatible with the rubber seals.
-
- Q: Are those ventilation filters sold by APS any good?
- A: They are pure CRAP!!! They are too restrictive according to Roc Goolen. [If
- you really want to filter your air, go to a hardware store, buy a furnace
- filter for a couple $$ and rig it up somehow. Jan...later I tried that,
- and wouldn't you know, that too restricted the airflow!
- At least I only spent .40 US$ finding this out.]
-
- Note that the filters that APS used to sell were made by Climismann (sp?);
- they are now selling units made by Bosch and make the claim that they "work
- much better." [Hmmmmm.... Ed.]
-
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- Contributors (not exhaustive):
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- Note: Quoted contributions imply possible conflicting pieces of advise
- with other contributors.
-
- jmm2948@zeus.tamu.edu (Jeffrey M. Mayzurk)
- mshaw@netzone.com mark@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
- dilmore@techops.cray.com (Robert J. Dilmore)
- tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill)
- rgolen@UMASSD.EDU (Ric Golen)
- cdg@sei.cmu.edu (Craig Gary)
- borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
- tomh@wes.on.ca (\tom haapanen)
- teek@kingcong.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi)
- gajewski@ug.cs.dal.ca (ANdy)
- eric@quantum.qnx.com (Eric Johnson)
- dans@ans.net (Dan Simoes)
- dilmore@techops.cray.com (Robert J. Dilmore)
- tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ted Crum)
- crawford@fido.econ.arizona.edu (David Crawford)
- sirota@greenwich.com (Mark Sirota)
- blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
- scottz@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Scott Zeller)
- christos@wucs1.wustl.edu (Christos Papadopoulos)
- neves@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (NEVES RICHARD K)
- rkast2+@unixd.cis.pitt.edu (Rajiv K. Agrawala)
- wolfsond@cse.fau.edu (Dan)
- borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
- jjmacklo@infonode.ingr.com (Jim Macklow)
- ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
- ke05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KIRBY ERLANDSEN)
- mhembruc@tsegw.tse.com (Mattias Hembruch)
- ptong12@ursa.calvin.edu (Peter Tong)
- morton@quack.kfu.com (Brent Morton)
- chan@seattleu.edu (Anthony)
- gjm@macsch.com (Greg Moore)
- thogard@wrdis01.robins.af.mil (Cont Tim Hogard)
- mshearer@math.ucla.edu (Michael Shearer)
- squiec@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Craig L. Squier)
- jdouglas@mitre.org (Jason Douglas)
- jay.mitchell@the-matrix.com (Jay Mitchell)
- pk16@frc.ri.cmu.edu (Paul Keller)
- keys@csmes.ncsl.nist.gov (Larry Keys)
- scornelius@ws11.iac.honeywell.com (Steve Cornelius)
- lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lito Lucena)
- cfm@cbnews.cb.att.com (conrad.f.matter)
- chneide@world.std.com (Eric G Schneider)
- Volney.Spalding@Corp.Sun.COM (Volney Spalding)
- rbriber@eng.umd.edu (Robert M. Briber)
- frank.sikernitsky@mail.trincoll.edu (The Catt)
- tcora@Pica.Army.Mil (Tom Coradeschi)
- eschwa@csn.org (Emerson Schwartzkopf)
- cremelie@ibmsp.elis.rug.ac.be (Nick Cremelie)
- seibed@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Edward Seibert)
- lsharkey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sharkman)
- Eric Lee Green elg@usl.edu
- Tom Huppi thuppi@delphi.com
- Greg Welch, welchg@cs.unc.edu
- scornelius@server2.iac.honeywell.com (Steve Cornelius)
- jdr40@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (John Ritter)
- Craig D. Gary" <cg2h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Mark (mbernier@aol.com)
- garrick@cfd19.eng.buffalo.edu (Sean)
- gsdiseth@efn.org (Gregor)
- pmd11@phy.cam.ac.uk (Peter Dickson)
- MHC@ussu.Ciba.Com (Michael Chin)
- "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
- vyeung@bmerha11.bnr.ca (Vincent Yeung)
- John Leipsic <johnny5@netcom.com>
- gajewski@ug.cs.dal.ca (Andy)
- Charlie Crutchfield
- JBratek@aol.com
- jtracey@pts.mot.com (James Tracey)
- RHOVNANI@STDNTMAIL.LMU.EDU (RAFFI HOVNANIAN)
- zrxh0370@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ulli Horlacher)
- dlgoodri@iastate.edu (Dennis L Goodrich)
- JBratek@aol.com
- <Bill_N_Gallas@ccm.ch.intel.com>
- Jens Knickmeyer <knick@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>
- johnd@netcom.com john denny
- Matthew Jelavic <herzog@cml.com>
- jlfoster@siu.edu JOHN L FOSTER
- Ed Wodzienski ewodzien@phoenix.calpoly.edu
- <Bill_N_Gallas@ccm.ch.intel.com> Bill N Gallas
- EIPTUNING@aol.com (RICH)
- "Chen, Karl" <karl@advansys.com>
- jwarren@x31.infi.net jeffrey warren
- Mark Komosa komosa@ibm.net
- TAY Chek Hee s2800021@singnet.com.sg
- Cyberanne cyberann@his.com
- Andy <amcphail@nortel.ca>
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