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- From: Sherilyn <faq-maintainer@sherilyn.org.uk>
- Subject: [alt.astrology] Debating astrology
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- Summary: Advice on how to debate astrology
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- Archive-name: astrology/debating
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- Last-modified: 2001/05/02
- Version: 1.1
- URL: http://www.sherilyn.org.uk/astrology/debating.txt
- Copyright: (c) 2001 Sherilyn <faq-maintainer@sherilyn.org.uk>
- Maintainer: Sherilyn <faq-maintainer@sherilyn.org.uk>
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- A common occurrence on alt.astrology is a debate about some
- purported feature of astrology. Sometimes both skeptics and
- astrologers will join in. This FAQ is to help skeptics
- and astrologers to get on the same wavelength prior to
- the debate. Sorry, it can't help to make you a better
- or more effective debater, but it will help you (particularly
- astrologers) to avoid the major pra^H^Hitfalls.
-
- QUESTIONS
-
- 1. Why do we need this FAQ?
- 2. Okay, why do *I* need this FAQ?
- 3. General rules for skeptics
- 4. General rules for astrologers
- 5. General rules for everybody
-
- 1. Why do we need this FAQ?
-
- We need this because debating is not an innate skill, and
- because USENET is not an ideal medium for debate.
-
- 2. Why do *I* need this FAQ?
-
- Maybe you don't. Read it and see.
-
- 3. General rules for skeptics.
-
- a. Expect astrologers to speculate as to how your character
- is a reflection of your birth data. If you want to give
- your birth data, fine. If you don't, politely refuse.
- It will tend to be used in, er, unusual ways. :)
-
- b. Try not to respond to insults--there are usually a number of
- resident trolls who try to encourage a rowdy atmosphere.
-
- 4. General rules for astrologers.
-
- a. If you're aware that your making a statement as to the relationship
- between the movements of the planets and human affairs, it's
- probably wise to say so--a subsequent denial can look bad.
-
- b. If you're aware that your making such a statement but believe it to
- be outside the consensus of working astrologers, it's probably
- wise to say so.
-
- c. If you're aware that you're speculating about any such
- relationship, it's probably wise to point this out.
-
- d. Unless backed by replicated scientific tests, any astrological
- claim is _de facto_ an extraordinary claim, so avoid appealing
- to anecdotes. If you make an extraordinary claim that turns
- out to be backed only by anecdote, or by the incredible
- disappearing "thousands/hundreds of years of research", or that
- it's verified every day by thousands of astrologers around the
- world don't be surprised if a skeptic points out that the
- extraordinary claim is thus debunked for lack of evidence.
-
- 5. General rules for everybody
-
- a. Do play nicely. Avoid ad hominem attacks, temper tantrums,
- and other unseemly outbursts. Remember, calling people nasty
- names does not help your argument.
-
- b. Check out the Posting FAQ for general advice.
- http://www.faqs.org/faqs/astrology/posting/
- --
- Sherilyn <faq-maintainer@sherilyn.org.uk>
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