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- Summary: This list collects information on books that I consider
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- MY BOOK LIST (part 1 of 3)
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- Is this an "official" post of some kind??
- No. This is *not* an official post of alt.support.depression
- (ASD). This post (in 5 parts) has been approved by the moderators of the
- *.answers usenet newsgroups. Approval by the moderators of the *.answers
- newsgroups means that;
- (1) these posts can appear on the moderated usenet newsgroups, news.answers
- and alt.answers,
- (2) these posts will be archived on the rtfm.mit.edu anonymous FTP server
- (ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/alt/support/depression/),
- (3) these posts can be posted automatically to ASD using a FAQ server run
- by rtfm.mit.edu.
-
- What is this Book List??
- This Book List is simply, "My Book List" (catchy eh?). It took a
- long time before I was ready and able to put this list together (it was
- created around 3/97). It is simply a list of books that I have read, or
- tried to read, over the last 3 years (since reaching my own personal bottom
- and starting to climb out). As is true for all of my posts here on ASD,
- this was written and posted mostly for my own benefit. But as always, I
- hope that others also find it useful.
-
- What is this Book List not. (Definition by opposition.)
- This Book List is not a compilation of all books related to
- depression, nor is it a compilation of all books that might help people
- deal more effectively with their depression. (For example, there are not
- very many "self-help" books or books about cognitive/behavioral therapy on
- this list, because I personally prefer a more narrative, metaphorical,
- analytical, or philosophical approach to my sense of self.) For a more
- comprehensive list of books related to depression I suggest you check out
- http://www.frii.com/~parrot/media.html as a resource.
-
- Is this list static and set in stone??
- No. I will continue to add to this list. I hope that this Book
- List prompts others to add their comments to mine in an ongoing discussion.
- I hope that this Book List prompts others to recommend books that have
- helped them in some way. I posted this to ASD about a dozen times before
- bothering to get it approved by the moderators of the *.answers newsgroups,
- but it never really generated much in the way of discussion on ASD. Oh
- well, ce la vie.
-
- What is the relationship between this book list and others posted to ASD??
- Aside from the fact that they are book lists, they are posted to
- ASD, and they are presumably related to depression in some way - not much.
- There is another book list called "The Mood Disorders Book List" that is
- also approved by the moderators of the *.answers newsgroups. This Book
- List is modeled after The Mood Disorders Book List.
-
- 2, 4, 6, 8, who do we appreciate??
- I want to thank all of those who read and post to ASD. A lot of
- the books on this list I found because people on ASD talked about them. In
- addition, I want to thank in advance anyone who responds and gives me
- feedback of any kind. If you find anything on this list that you like or
- do not like for any reason, please let me know.
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- Author: Lewis Wolpert
- Title: Malignant sadness, the anatomy of depression.
- Publisher: The Free Press, 1999
- ISBN: 0-684-87058-4
- Comments: I think this is probably a pretty good overall book about
- depression. A nice mix of history of depression, personal narrative of
- depression, and current science of depression. I didn't finish it because
- I was looking for something more personal narrative than the other two.
-
- Author: Leslie Irvine
- Title: Codependent forevermore. The invention of self in a twelve step group.
- Publisher: The University of Chicago Press, 1999
- ISBN: 0-226-38471-3
- Comments: The author is a sociologist and she did a sort of
- "anthropological" type study of the 12-step group CODA (CoDependents
- Anonymous). It was interesting in a way. I thought she had a nice idea of
- looking at our sense of self as being formed by the stories we tell about
- ourselves. But at times her "detached" approach made it feel like she was
- an anthropologist from Mars trying to figure out what those strange life
- forms on earth mean when they say "I wasn't myself".
-
- Author: Gail Van Kleeck
- Title: How you see anything is how you see everything. A treasury of
- simple wisdom.
- Publisher: Andrews McMeel, 1999
- ISBN: 0-7407-0053-7
- Comments: I stumbled on this book in the library because I liked the
- title. It's a compilation of short parables, apparently made up by the
- authors, each with a little summary at the end (presumably for the
- parable-challenged). It's sort of like the Chicken Soup for the Soul
- books. I don't usually like this sort of book, as they can get a little
- too "soapy" for me. But I kinda liked this one.
-
- Author: Allen Wheelis
- Title: The listener. A psychoanalyst examines his life.
- Publisher: W. W. Norton and Company, 1999
- ISBN: 0-393-04783-0
- Comments: This book is one of many written by this author. He was in his
- 80's when he wrote it. It's basically a memoir style book of his life as a
- young man and how he became a psychoanalyst. I liked his writing style a
- lot. In the jacket cover it says; "As Wheelis turns his exploratory lens
- on the dark corners of his own life, we come to understand how a gift for
- analysis -like a gift for prophecy- brings little comfort to it's
- possessor, and no guarantee of happiness."
-
- Author: Kay Redfield Jamison
- Title: Night falls fast; Understanding suicide.
- Publisher: Alfred A Knopf, 1999
- ISBN: 0-375-40145-8
- Comments: I like the title of this book as much as her previous book (An
- unquiet mind), but I didn't like the actual book quite as much. Not enough
- personal insight and too "preachy" for me. I think it tries too hard to be
- "an objective review of the literature and the field" type of book. I
- think it's strength lies in having one foot in each world, but I just think
- it put too much weight on the detached side of the story.
-
- Author: Sonya Sones
- Title: Stop pretending. What happened when my big sister went crazy.
- Publisher: HarperCollins,1999
- ISBN: 0-06-028386-6
- Comments: A small short book. Written in a sort of poetry or short verse
- style called "falling rhythms". Each page or two is a new "falling rhythm"
- about some aspect of how the author tries to cope with being a young
- teenager and having her older sister suddenly hospitalized for a psychotic
- manic-depressive episode. I don't usually go for this sort of thing, but I
- liked this one.
-
- Author: Fred Haefele
- Title: Rebuilding the indian
- Publisher: Riverhead Books, Penguin Putnam, 1998
- ISBN: 1-57322-099-X
- Comments: This is a book about a man in his mid 50's who rebuilds an old
- Indian motorcycle. It's not about depression per se, tho that subject does
- come up. It's more about a man taking stock of his life, and rebuilding
- the motorcycle as metaphor. Kind of like "The Cliff Walk", but without all
- the moralizing about society and without all the job angst. I want a
- motorcycle........
-
- Author: Anne Katherine, MA
- Title: Boundaries. Where you end and I begin.
- Publisher: A Fireside/Parkside Recovery Book by Simon and Schuster, 1991
- ISBN: 0-671-79193-1
- Comments: This would probably be a very good book if you are a woman in
- what you feel is a somehow abusive relationship of some kind. Seriously.
- A very good introduction to the concept of emotional boundaries. But
- personally, I found it somewhat annoying. All of the examples were about
- good kind sweet women who must learn not to be taken advantage of by big
- bad men. All of the examples sounded like they were either made up by, or
- highly edited by, the same person. It took the approach of "one must have
- strong boundaries, and patrol them ever vigilantly". It took the approach
- of "this is an example of a boundary violation that you must watch out
- for". I think these approaches can be very important for some people first
- learning about emotional boundaries. But for my money, the book "At
- personal risk: Boundary violations in professional-client relationships."
- had a much more useful approach in that it asked the question "why do
- people WANT to have their boundaries crossed".
-
- Author: Persimmon Blackbridge
- Title: Sunnybrook; A true story with lies.
- Publisher: Press Gang Publishers, 1996
- ISBN: 0-88974-060-7
- Comments: An interesting first novel by the author of Prozac Highway.
- This is a relatively short story that actually started out as a visual art
- project of some type before it was transformed into a book. The format is
- kind of unusual, which compliments the subject matter pretty well. There
- are lots of pictures (presumably pictures of the original visual art
- project), and lots of odd tidbits of comments in the margins. The subject
- matter is the author's time spent as a "one-on-one" counselor in a home for
- people with severe physical and emotional problems. Interesting format,
- and easy to read on a lazy afternoon.
-
- Author: Jeffrey A.Kottler and Diane S. Blau
- Title: The imperfect therapist
- Publisher: Jossey-Bass, 1989
- ISBN: 1-55542-145-8
- Comments: There are many stories of what therapists think of their
- patients. Invariably the therapists believe they have either helped their
- patients, or that their patients were beyond their help and possibly beyond
- anyone's help. I was looking for stories of how therapists feel when they
- think they have somehow "failed". This was not quite that sort of book.
- Close, but not quite. The theme of this book was more along the lines of;
- "Therapists are human. They make mistakes and errors of judgment. And
- here are all the reasons why it's good for them to admit these things." It
- was more sort of an academic study of the subject. Although some examples
- were given, they were minimal and mainly used to support the more academic
- points being made.
-
- Author: Laurie Fox
- Title: My sister from the black lagoon. A novel of my life.
- Publisher: Simon and Schuster, 118
- ISBN: 0-684-84745-0
- Comments: The subtitle says more about the book than the title. It's a
- story of a woman who in midlife recounts her childhood and young adulthood.
- Although the book is more generally about the authors life, she tries to
- paint a picture of how her life was pounded into shape by her family of
- origin and particularly by her older sister who's emotional problems kept
- her in "special" schools and institutionalized. I think the author gets
- some needed "distance" from her life and her sister by talking about the
- distant past. But although she tries to say how she felt then, it sounds
- to me more like how she now thinks she felt then. In other words, the
- narrator tries to give us the feeling of being herself as a child and young
- adult, but she sounds more like a middle aged person looking back on her
- childhood and young adulthood. I would have been more interested in
- hearing more about her relationship with her sister, the times she spent
- with her sister. And more on her present or more recent past. For
- instance, how did her sister and family feel about this book?? Over all it
- was a good book tho, and pretty easy to read. The theme of her guilt WRT
- her sister plays well.
-
- Author: Julian Dibbell
- Title: My Tiny Life; Crime and Passion in a Virtual World
- Publisher: Henry Holt and Co. Inc., 1998
- ISBN: 0-8050-3626-1
- Comments: This is a book about MUD/MOO's. MUD stands for "MultiUser
- Dungeon/Dimension". These are usually multiuser computer role-playing
- games based on the popular Dungeons and Dragons theme. MOO stands for "MUD
- Object Oriented" and they are usually a more versatile and open-ended form
- of MUD. Often in a MOO players can chose to describe themselves however
- they like and can participate in building the environment they move
- through. I thought the book was too long and tedious, but I also thought
- it was very interesting. Lots of parallels to building a community in
- usenet. I am really having trouble focusing on writing this.
-
- Author: Don J. Snyder
- Title: The Cliff Walk; A job lost and a life found.
- Publisher: Little Brown and Company, 1997
- ISBN: 0-316-80348-0
- Comments: I liked it. Nice story, well written, etcetera. My mother sent
- me this book. It's about a guy who lost his job at a university and had to
- take manual labor. My mother seems to have focused her concern on my life.
- She sent me a newspaper article about a support group that "househusbands"
- can go to. She sends me articles and magazines about cooking, about Dad's
- that cook, about cooking with your kids, and about various aspects of
- "child raising". Her concerns can wear on a guy.
-
- Author: Jacki Lyden
- Title: Daughter of the queen of sheba
- Publisher: Penguin Books, 1997
- ISBN: 0-14-027684-X
- Comments: This is a memoir type book written by a woman whose mother is a
- manic depressive. She talks about how her mother creates and recreates her
- life and her life's history. Constantly reinventing her past and her
- present. She talks about her own life, and how she herself wound up in a
- job that requires her to travel the world. Perhaps as a way of finding,
- for herself, something akin to the exotic and chaotic worlds her mother
- often inhabits. There is some good self-reflection in the book, and a lot
- of humanity. I thought the middle part dragged a little with verbiage and
- lost something to that. But towards the end it picked up again talking
- about what the daughter and her sisters went through to finally get their
- mother successfully hospitalized and feeling more stable, tho maybe a
- little duller to the touch.
-
- Author: Virginia M. Axline
- Title: Dibs, in search of self.
- Publisher: Ballantine Books, 1964
- ISBN: 345-01968-7-125 (0345339258?)
- Comments: The book itself says that this is: "The classic of
- child-focused "play therapy". Dibs will not talk. He will not play. He
- has locked himself in a very special prison. And he is alone. This is the
- true story of how he learned to reach out for the sunshine, for life...how
- he came to the breathless discovery of himself that brought him back to the
- world of other children." One reviewer said: "I read this book as I was
- starting therapy, and it helped me to accept a very difficult childhood.
- Easy to read and filled with memories and feelings that I had tried to
- avoid for years. Very positive and very little about blame." While
- another reviewer said: "An inspiration for anyone who had a difficult
- childhood. Those who have suffered from mothers' expectations will rejoice
- with Dibs as his breaks the chains of obligation and becomes himself." But
- a 3ed reviewer said: "Yet another book trying to blame autistic behavior
- on cold, intellectual mothers while telling us how nurturing and warm the
- author is."
-
- Author: Marilyn R. Peterson
- Title: At personal risk: Boundary violations in professional-client
- relationships.
- Publisher: W. W. Norton, 1992
- ISBN: 0-393-70138-7
- Comments: I really liked this book. It kind of surprised me I guess. My
- wife actually stumbled upon it while searching for books related to
- management of accounting clients. I liked how it started out talking about
- the difference between being in a position of "control" versus being in a
- position of "vulnerability", and about how and why either party may at
- times want things that way, and how and why either party may at times want
- to try and "level the field". And about how it is that process, often
- supported in various ways by both parties, that can lead to "boundary
- violations".
-
- Author: Jolene Galegher, Lee Sproull, Sara Kiesler
- Title: Legitimacy, authority, and community in electronic support groups.
- Publisher: Sage Publications, 1998
- ISBN: Written Communication, Vol. 15, No. 4, October 1998, pages 493-530.
- Comments: One of the authors of this study is someone I met through ASD,
- and I have a lot of respect for her. In this academic-type study, the
- authors compare and contrast three examples of "support" newsgroups
- (alt.support.depression, alt.support.arthritis, and
- alt.support.attn-deficit), with three examples of "hobby" newsgroups
- (rec.cooking.recipes, rec.pets.dogs, and rec.crafts.textiles.quilting).
- They examined 3 weeks in 1995, which amounted to almost 20 megabytes of
- text. Each of the authors had some personal interest in two of the
- newsgroups (one of each "type"). I thought they raised some interesting
- issues. In essence, I think their use of the word "legitimacy" refers to
- how people gain attention/acceptance from the group for their original
- (seed) posts. While their use of the word "authority" refers to how people
- gain attention/acceptance for their response (reply) posts. For instance,
- I thought it was interesting that they found the people posting to support
- groups made *way* more references to how long they had been reading the
- group, as one way to assert "legitimacy" in calls for help, and "authority"
- for advice offered. I have been reading ASD for close to 3 years now, and
- I agree. :-) I thought it was kind of odd, but maybe not given their
- academic perspectives, that the authors seemed to think there was some kind
- of "inherent epistemological weakness of answers based on personal
- experience". In the end, perhaps the most telling point was that the
- explicit text string "I am not alone" was found 36 times in the support
- groups, while it was only found 3 times in the hobby groups. (Of course, I
- bet they would have found that text string more often in
- rec.collecting.toe-jam.) In addition, that text string assertion seems
- "epistemologically" somewhat weak. :-)
-
- Author: Susan Baur
- Title: Confiding: A psychotherapist and her patients search for stories
- to live by.
- Publisher: HarperCollins, 1995
- ISBN: 0-06-018238-5
- Comments: "The task of the mentally ill is no different from the task of
- others: To experience the world and tell the story." I liked this book
- even more than her previous book "The dinosaur man: Tales of madness and
- enchantment from the back ward." Her previous book I think felt much more
- like her telling the stories of other people. For instance, "the dinosaur
- man" probably didn't call himself that. This book is really similar, but I
- think it goes just one small step farther. It goes a little farther in
- explaining her thoughts about narrative stories, and about one, perhaps the
- only real, frustration at being severely mentally ill - the inability to
- tell one's story in a way that someone else can understand it. No
- connection between teller and listener. She also goes just a little tiny
- bit farther in this book to tell about herself, her own story. I thought
- one of the more interesting stories was one about how she came to realize
- that an important mentor of hers had lied and betrayed her. Unfortunately,
- most of the focus was on why this mentor might have come to lie. Some good
- stuff, but much less, was revealed about why she needed to believe, and why
- she needed to feel betrayed. Still, I really like the way she tells a
- story. Lots of references to the seasons and the weather to tie it into
- the passage of real time, in a way that the reader can feel.
-
- Author: David L. Calof (and Robin Simons)
- Title: The couple who became each other. And other tales of healing from
- a hypnotherapist's casebook.
- Publisher: Bantam Books, 1996
- ISBN: 0-553-09668-0
- Comments: This guy traces his "lineage" to the hypnotherapist Milton
- Erickson, who's protege's also include Bandler and Grinder (of
- Neuro-Linguistic Programming fame). I like a lot of their stuff (when it
- doesn't get too "mass marketing, quick fixy", and I liked a lot of the tone
- of this book too. It does at times sound a little like "I am the wise and
- wonderful wizard who can effect miracle cures". Some of that tone can be
- gleaned from the way the "cases" are "named", almost the way Freud might
- name a "case" about how he cured a hysterical neuroses. But I like how he
- views trance as something larger than just that induced by a hypnotist. In
- addition, I like his "family systems theory" approach. For instance,
- several of the cases were of "children" with "intrusive" parents, and
- almost all of them could be viewed as embedded in the family in some way
- (for instance adults trying to come to terms with being abused by their
- parents). One of the things I realized while reading this book, however,
- is that I have yet to read a book about the failure of therapy written from
- the therapists perspective.
-
- Author: Cheri Huber
- Title: Being Present in the Darkness. Depression as an opportunity for
- self-discovery.
- Publisher: Perigee Books, Berkeley Publishing Group, 1996
- ISBN: 0-399-52223-9 (original title was "The Depression Book" in 1991)
- Comments: This was a nice short book. It is hand written, not typeset.
- It is VERY Zen Buddhist oriented. It reminded me of a book called "Be Here
- Now" by Baba Ram Das (aka Richard Albert of LSD fame) that I read when I
- was in high school in the middle 70's. It is very much about
- "compassionate acceptance" of one's self. It's about how anger and
- resistance tie us to that which we strive to separate from. And I very
- much like the approach.
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