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                 Alt.beer FAQ          940725
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i. Intro.

This list has been compiled over the time that alt.beer has been up
available on Usenet. Please send any suggestions, corrections or
changes to Dan Brown, [e-mail].


Many Thanks to all of the people that contributed, notably:

    Tim P McNerney, [e-mail]
    Dean Cookson, [e-mail]
    John R. Mellby, [e-mail]
    Mark Enderby, [e-mail]
    Matt Dick, [e-mail]
    Roger Brown, [e-mail]
    Bruce Tindall, [e-mail]
    Tony Scott, [e-mail]
    Richard Stueven, [e-mail]
    Doug Ferrell, [e-mail]
    Jim Tyson, [e-mail]
    Jim Dorsch, [e-mail]

    and all of the people that have kept this newsgroup going!

If you your name is up there, and you didn't know you contributed, it
probably is because I have saved an interesting post from alt.beer.
Thanks!

This list is divided into several sections, each addressing a bit
different aspect of beer. The topic is as broad as there are tastes for
different kinds of beer.  Due to this, this FAQ list cannot possibly
cover every aspect of the subject. It is only meant as an overview
that answers a few of the multitude of "Frequently Asked Questions"

Cheers!
Dan Brown
[e-mail]

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ii. Table of contents

The sections are as follows:

i.     intro.
ii.     Table of contents.
iii.     New Stuff
I.    Drinking Beer.
II.    Making Beer.
III.     General Beer FAQ's
and
IV.    Questions about alt.beer. and the alt.beer FAQ

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iii.     New Stuff..


    940117. Added Information about FTP by mail for the alt.beer FAQ.
        Changed the date format to YYMMDD.
        Added new stuff section.

    940602    Fixed Labic Info
        Added info in the Internet info part.
        Added info in the What are lagers part
        Fixed Malt liquor part
        Added Books about beer part

    940909  Added magazines info

I. Drinking Beer

What kinds of beers are there?

What are Ales and Lagers, etc, types and styles.

What are ales? Ales are generally beers made with top fermenting yeasts
    They are brewed at "warm" temperatures, normally between 50 and
    70 degrees Fahrenheit.

What are lagers? Lagers are generally beers made with bottom Fermenting
    yeasts. They are fermented at cooler temperatures, generally 35 to
    50 degrees Fahrenheit. These cooler temperatures mean longer
    fermenting. The process of fermenting at cool temperatures is called
    "lagering."

    Lagers are said to have originated in Germany where the brewers
    found that they could change the flavor and smoothness of their
    beers by storing them in cold caves.

    Pilsners (most American beers) are a subset of lagers.
    The style originated in Pilsen Chezkoslovakia, and the definitive
    beer of this style is Pilsner Urquel.

    Another type of lager is a "Bock" beer. A bock is typically a
    lager made with a bit more of everything, and is somewhat
    stronger. Mai-Bock's are a subset of that style that are brewed
    in the early spring time (Mai is German for May).

What are lambics? Lambics are specifically Belgian beers, made in a
    certain part of Belgium, specifically in Payottenland east of
    Brussels in the Zenne valley.  The beer may well be named for
    the Payottenland town of Lembeek.

    Lambics are fermented using wild, air born yeasts. Brewers often
    have their primary fermenting vessels on the top floor of the
    brewery so that they can open holes in their roofs to let the
    yeasts, rain, dust, bugs, and whatever else into their beer.

    Lambics have a very distinctive taste, and are often flavored
    fruit. Whole fruit is often added to the beer causing a secondary
    fermentation. These beers can range in taste from fairly sweet to
    very vinegary and sour. Often considered to be something of an
    acquired taste.

What are the government  classifications?

What is malt liquor? In the United States, Malt liquor is a classification
    bestowed on beers that are above a certain alcohol content. The
    laws vary from state to state in the US. Many beers have been
    given the title malt liquor, even though that is not their true
    type.

What do 3.2 and 5.0% mean? This is a "rating" of the amount of alcohol in
    the beer, by volume or by weight depending on where you are.

What is Reinheitsgebot? It is an old German "purity" law that delineates
    the ingredients that can be used to make beer. Under this law, there
    are only four; water, barley malt, hops, and yeast.

    "Rein" means clean or pure; "-heit" means "-ness"; so "Reinheit"
    means "cleanliness" or "purity".

What do the terms used in beer commercials mean?

What is "Dry" beer? Dry beer is beer that has less malt, and more corn
    or rice sugars added to it during the brewing process. This
    produces a lighter, slightly more alcoholic, "dryer" tasting beer.
    It also probably reduces the brewing costs. The style is said
    to have originated in Japan.

What is "Cold Filtered?" Cold filtering is beer that is physically filtered
    after it has been brewed, before it is bottled. This tends to
    eliminate all sediments (yeast and malt leftovers... things that
    can give beer character), and makes the beer clear.

What does "Heat Pasteurized" mean? It means the beer has been heated after
    fermenting, killing all of the remaining live yeasts and any other
    microganisms. It means that the beer will not continue to age in
    its bottle.

What does "bottle conditioned" mean? It is beer that has not been
    pasteurized, and still has live yeast in it. It will continue to
    age in the bottle, and the character of the beer will change over
    time. For some kinds of beer this is good, for others it means
    they will spoil after a while.

What is "draught" (draft) beer? It is beer that has been drawn or pulled
    from a cask. Beer from pressurized kegs is often referred to as
    draft beer, but this is probably a misnomer, or an "Americanism"

What is ice beer/ eisbock? Whats the difference? Ice beer is beer that has
    reportedly been fermented a nearly freezing temperatures. This is
    another ploy by Megabrewies to convince people that their beer is
    something different or better than everyone elses. Ice Beers are
    basically another style of light American lagers.

    True eisebock's are beers that have been frozen after they are
    fermented to raise the specific gravity and alcohol content of
    the beer. The water in the beer turns to ice when the beer gets
    cold enough. The ice crystals are strained or filtered out, leaving
    a beer with a higher specific gravity and generally a higher
    alcohol content.

How can you get draft beer in a can or bottle???
    Unknown.

Where can I get beer? Breweries, brewpubs, stores, restaurants,
    distributors, and by making your own.

What is a brewpub? It is a combination of brewery, pub, and maybe
    restaurant. There are LOTS of these in Europe, and are getting
    to be more in America.

Can I get beer in the mail?
    Yes...     Beer Across America's phone numbr is 1-800-854-2337,
    and Microbrew to You is reportely now out of business.

How do I make my own beer?? See below.

How do I judge a beer or what is good beer?

Good beer (what is it, and how to tell). Good beer is determined by an
    individuals tastes. It has been suggested that trying a wide variety
    of beers will usually help a person figure out what beer tastes good.

What makes beer go bad? (what it is and why it is bad/skunked.) Bad beer
    is beer that tastes bad of is spoiled. Beer can and will spoil
    under certain conditions. Mishandling and old age are the two
    biggest causes of spoiled beer. Skunked beer refers to beer that
    has been lightstruck, causing the hops to take on a skunky odor.
    This is often happens with clear or green bottles, and tends to
    be prevalent in certain imported beers.

What are some good books on beer?


    Michael Jackson's Beer Companion does not give ratings.  It
    discusses various styles and profiles good examples of the
    the styles.  This is a very enjoyable book that every beer
    lover should have.

    The Simon & Schuster Pocket Guide to Beer (ISBN 0-671-72915-2)
    by Michael Jackson is the book commonly referred to in these
    groups when citing ratings on MJ's four-star system.  About 1300
    beers from around the world are reviewed and rated. New version
    due out in late 1994, according to Jackson.

    Stephen Beaumont's Great Canadian Beer Guide (Macmillan Canada,
    ISBN 0-7715-9031-8).  Steve also uses the MJ four-star system.
    This is a must for anybody that appreciates Canadian Beers.

    Jamie MacKinnon's Ontario Beer Guide.  (don't have publishing
    information.  It has a good section on tasting and evaluating
    beers, although I (Alan M.) disagree with his overattention to
    appearance factors.  He rates all the beers in Ontario (as
    of 1991, I think) on a five star scale.

    Fred Eckhardt's The Essentials of Beer Style (ISBN 0-9606302-7-9).
    The editor of the book is Jeff Frane, who many will recognize
    from the beer groups, especially rec.crafts.brewing. A book that
    does not rate beers, but does have a lot of technical information
    about various beers as well as information about tasting.


What are some good magazines on beer? How do I email to their editors?


    All About Beer: [e-mail]
    Beer Magazine (Canada): [e-mail]
    Beer, The Magazine: [e-mail]
    Brew Hawaii: [e-mail]
    Brewing Techniques (circulation): [e-mail]
    Brewing Techniques (editor): [e-mail]
    Celebrator Beer News: [e-mail]
    The Malt Advocate: [e-mail]
    Midwest Beer Notes: [e-mail]
    Whats On Tap: Steve Johnson, [e-mail]
    Southern Draft Brew News: [e-mail]
    Southwest Brewing News: [e-mail]
    Yankee Brew News: [e-mail]


I like to drink beer, how do I get rid of a beer gut?

    (ed note... this was just too classic to edit!)

|From: [e-mail]
|Newsgroups: alt.beer
|Subject: Re: Dilemma
|Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
|Date: 20 Aug 93 12:45:36 GMT
|References: <[e-mail]>
|Organization: South Bank University
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|In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ya'akov Miles) writes:
|> Help.  I need advice.  I have a beer belly and I like beer.  How do I get
|> rid of the belly and not have to go without beer?
|>
|> Ya'akov Miles,
|
|Stop eating, just drink Guinness.
|
|Tony Scott


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II. Making Beer

WHERE DO I START... How do I make beer? Beer is made with
    basically, water, barley malt, hops and yeast. The water, malt
    and hops are boiled to produce a wort. This wort is cooled, put
    into a fermenting vessel, and the yeast is added (pitched). This
    vessel is sealed with an air lock, and the beer is allowed to
    ferment (sugar and water is turned to alcohol, carbon dioxide, etc)
    and age for a period of time. When the fermentation is over, a
    bit of additional malt or other sugar is added (for carbonation),
    and the beer is    bottled or kegged. It is once again allowed to age
    for a period of time, during which the additional sugars carbonate
    the beer, and the taste of the beer developes and ages. The beer
    is then consumed.

Where to find more information about making beer??

What other Internet resources are available? You can find more information
    in the newsgroups rec.crafts.brewing, rec.food.drink.beer and
    rec.food.drink. There is a mailing list, "The Homebrew Digest"
    sent out almost daily.  There is an archive of HBD items available
    via ftp at sierra.stanford.edu, in the /pub/homebrew directory.
    There is also a mead-makers archive in the /pub/mead directory.

    For the people that are using World Wide Web, here are some
    interesting URLs

    Alt.beer        news:alt.beer
    This FAQ           http://www.eff.org/~brown/alt.beer.faq
    The Alt.beer charter    http://www.eff.org/~brown/alt.beer.charter
    Spencer's Beer Page    http://guraldi.itn.med.umich.edu/Beer/
    The Virtual Pub        http://lager.geo.brown.edu:8080/virtual-pub/
    2 Famous Beer Judges
            http://www.eff.org/~brown/bitmaps/gifs/gow-jackson.gif
    Alt.beer archive    ftp://ftp.wariat.org/pub/alt.beer


What books are available on homebrewing? One of the most popular is
    "The Complete Joy of Homebrewing by Charlie Papazian. This is
    the book that made the phrase "Relax,    Don't worry, Have a
    Homebrew" popular.

Where can I find recipes? TCJOH by Papazian, "The Cats Meow" from the
    HBD, etc etc.

How should I store my homebrew? The most common method is in bottles.
    These can be either the Grolsh kind, that have a stopper that
    is attached to the bottle, bottles that you put a crown cap on,
    or bottles that you cork. How do I get the labels of the bottles
    that I am going to use for my brew? The most effective method is
    Commonly said to be by soaking them in a solution of water and
    ammonia. Most labels will fall off after soaking overnight.

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III. Some General Beer FAQ's.. AKA, Pet Peeves that pop up on alt.beer
    all too often.

What does the "33" on the back of Rolling Rock bottles mean? There are
    several common answers. First, it is said to be the number of
    words on the back label. The story goes that the Latrobe Brewing
    Company was deciding on which slogan to use on the new bottles,
    and had counted the number of words, and written it on the piece
    of paper that went to the bottle supplier. The bottle supplier
    mistakenly included the 33 on the printed bottles, and it has been
    there since. Another explanation is that it is the year that
    prohibition was repealed. One notable comment about the mysterious
    33 from a Latrobe exec goes something like; "Who cares what it
    means as, long as people continue to ponder it while drinking a
    cold Rolling Rock."

What is the thing in Pub Draft Guinness? How does it work?
    Where can I get it?  The thing is a can that has a widget in it
    that is used to produce a creamy head as you pour the beer.
    Probably the closest thing to "draft beer in a can!"

What is CAMRA? CAMRA - the Campaign for Real Ale was formed 21 years ago
    in the UK to protect the rapidly disappearing cask ales from a
    tide of bland keg beers which were being foisted on the public
    by the large breweries. It was fantastically successful (the most
    successful consumer movement in Europe) and now addresses other
    issues such as licensing law and protecting the British pub.
    It has now formed alliances with similar organisations througout
    Europe to deal with impending Europe issues. There are branches
    of CAMRA in several countries (eg Canada). As to Australia, I
    think there is a local organisation - will check it out during
    the break. However, you can get further details from the UK HQ at
     34 Alma Road, St Albans, Herts AL1 3BW, UK.
    Mark Enderby, [e-mail] (CAMRA Regional Director)

What is Jagermeister? It is a German herbal liquor. It is NOT beer.
    Discussions about it should be held on rec.food.drink or alt.alcohol
    The same holds for all other beverages... like Everclear...

How is the typical mass produced American beer like sex in a Canoe?
    WHO CARES!!!! This is a lame joke that has been beat into the
    ground! Enough already! For newcomers who haven't heard it,
    the punch line is "Because they are both f*cking close to water."
    YAWN! This joke has been attributed to Monty Python. I will
    personally email 10 bottles of heavily skunked, over-primed
    homebrew beer grenades to anyone who repeats it on the net.


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IV. Questions about alt.beer.

What is it about?
    alt.beer is a newsgroup that was created for the express purpose
    of discussing topics related to beer.

Where are the archives? The alt.beer archives were available via anonymous
    ftp to ftp.cwru.edu. Change directories to ~/pub/alt.beer.
        ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/alt.beer

    In the near future, they will be on ftp.wariat.org under
    pub/alt.beer.
        ftp://ftp.wariat.org/pub/alt.beer

Can I get the FAQ by FTP mail?

    Yes...


    From: [e-mail]

     =========================== BEER.NDX ==========================

     Since  many  folks  don't have real  FTP  capabilities,  I  have
     started  this  "FTP  by mail" service (if you want  to  call  it
     that).

     To get a file, send mail to "[e-mail]". In the
    n body  of  the message, type GET FILENAME where FILENAME  is  the
     file  that you  want.  Example to get ALT_BEER.FAQ type
     GET ALT_BEER.FAQ in the message body. The system will then send
     it back to  you in your Email message. These  are  standard  "DOS"
     files with linefeed/carriage returns at each line. Not the files
     are NOT case sensitive.


     Doug Ferrell
     [e-mail]


     FILENAME       SIZE FILEDATE DESCRIPTION
    ================================================================
     BEER.NDX       1194 01-16-94 Index of alt_beer files available
                                  from THE EXCHANGE!.
     ALT_BEER.FAQ  14598 12-01-93 Frequency Asked Questions (FAQ) for
                                  alt.beer
     BEERGAME.TXT   2944 03-03-92 Locations of Beer Drinking Games
     BEERMAGS.TXT   4352 02-05-92 Text file of Beer Magazines

     ============================ EOF ===============================



What is in the alt.beer archives? Various files... this FAQ list, the
    alt.beer charter, some information about CAMRA, etc etc.
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