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- From: wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul)
- Newsgroups: comp.text
- Subject: Re: Definition of Point
- Message-ID: <217@dcs.UUCP>
- Date: 13 Oct 88 11:43:20 GMT
- References: <2610015@hpsal2.HP.COM> <30767@bbn.COM>
- Reply-To: wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul)
- Organization: DCS, Dallas, Texas
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- In article <30767@bbn.COM> cosell@BBN.COM (Bernie Cosell) writes:
- * In article <2610015@hpsal2.HP.COM> morrell@hpsal2.HP.COM (Michael Morrell) writes:
- * }Does anyone know the exact definition of "point" (as in a 12-point font)?
- *
- * POINT SYSTEM: The system by which all typographic manterial is manufactured
- * to sizes which are exact multiples of a point. The English and American
- * point is 0.0138 in. or more accurately 72 points = 0.9966 inch. The Didot
- * point used on the Continent is slightly larger, it is 0.376 mm, English
- * point 0.351 mm.
- * -from {\it Basic Typography} by John R. Biggs
- *
- * Note that this is a *design*size* when you're using it to refer to a font.
- * There may well be *nothing* in the font itself that you can measure that is
- * actually "12 points" long or high or anything else.
-
- 1. The English point referred to above is often called the PICA POINT in
- contrast to the continental Didot point, which is sometimes referred to
- (at least in German typography, and when contrasting with Pica) the
- CICERO point. This refers to the traditional names for the respective
- 12-point size, which in the Anglo-American system is called PICA, and in
- the Didot System, in German at least, CICERO.
-
- 2. While the above comment about there not necessarily being anything measurable
- in a font, generally pointsize is considered to refer to the sum of x-height
- (i.e. the height of the lower case x and by inference of most l.c. chars.),
- descenders, and ascenders or (cap height - x height), whichever is larger.
-
- I am making this comment, because I have come across several DTP books and
- programs which measure point size just on the cap height, and that leads to
- specs and type sizes which differ from the standard, leading to much
- confusion.
-
- 3. Finally note that the relationship of x-height and cap height determines the
- visual size of a font -- i.e. HP Softfonts TmsRmn 12pt looks much bigger
- than Knuth's TeX Computer Modern Roman 12pt., because of the HP fonts' larger lower case characters.
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