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- From: siemsen@sol.usc.edu (Pete Siemsen)
- Newsgroups: comp.archives
- Subject: [folklore] Re: TECO (was Re: the jargon file)
- Message-ID: <1990Dec20.050546.26162@ox.com>
- Date: 20 Dec 90 05:05:46 GMT
- References: <CSTACY.90Dec17151739@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu> <13187@milton.u.washington.edu> <ZIPPY.90Dec18012554@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> <1990Dec18.174730.9234@dg-rtp.dg.com> <28957@usc>
- Sender: emv@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)
- Reply-To: siemsen@sol.usc.edu (Pete Siemsen)
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- Approved: emv@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)
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- Archive-name: editors/teco/teco/1990-12-19
- Archive-directory: usc.edu:/pub/teco/ [128.125.1.45]
- Original-posting-by: siemsen@sol.usc.edu (Pete Siemsen)
- Original-subject: Re: TECO (was Re: the jargon file)
- Reposted-by: emv@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)
-
- rice@dg-rtp.dg.com (Brian Rice) writes:
-
- >In article <ZIPPY.90Dec18012554@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>,
- >zippy@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) writes:
- >|> Where *is* TECO alive?
-
- You can ftp TECO stuff from usc.edu in directory /pub/teco. This
- directory contains the DECUS TECO Collection, which I maintain. It
- has several TECOs for various platforms, many TECO macros, the latest
- Standard TECO Manual (DEC's manual, but a newer version than they
- distribute) and other things relating to TECO. TECO is available in
- various forms for VAX/VMS, RSX, RT-11, RSTS, Tops, Tenex, Unix,
- MS-DOS, the Macintosh OS, and (soon) the Amiga.
-
- >Not too long ago, I worked
- >at a VMS site...there was a certain file-manipulation task, I
- >don't remember precisely what, which was most easily accomplished
- >by EDIT/TECO'ing the file and immediately saving it (with
- >EX<esc><esc>). Maybe it was removing trailing spaces from
- >each line or some such. But I found TECO invaluable for it.
-
- It was probably to deal with the output of DEC's RUNOFF utility, which
- produces files with "record attributes" set to nothing. This allows
- RUNOFF to do overstriking and underlining of characters on standard
- line printers by overprinting lines. It's a pain if you want to read
- the file with most programs, because they are used to "normal" files,
- which have "implied carriage return" record attributes. So if you use
- a text editor to look at a file that was produced by RUNOFF, you may
- get the line-feeds that are in the file plus the line-feeds injected
- by your editor. DEC's documented method for "normalizing" these files
- was to run TECO on the file and exit immediately.
-
- >I seem to remember this trick being documented, rather out
- >of the blue, in that little "Using the VMS Editors" book.
-
- See the appendices of older RUNOFF (also called DSR) manuals. I think
- manuals through version 4 of VMS still mentioned TECO. Newer manuals
- don't.
- --
- Pete Siemsen Pete Siemsen siemsen@usc.edu
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