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- Date: Sat Feb 05 1994 14:00:12
- From: Rick Moen of 1:125/27
- To: Don Allen of 1:3623/18@fidonet.org
- Subj: Hansen's article on CSICOP
- Attr: privileged crash sent
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- MSGID: 1:125/27 3b5be7d9
- REPLY: 1:3623/18@fidonet.org 11964d09
- In a msg on <Feb 04 23:09>, Don Allen of 1:3623/18@fidonet.org writes:
-
- DA> ...could I have your permission to post your netmail response
- DA> in an area I *do* know [Bob Dunn] reads...MufoNet ? Pete Theer has
- DA> already given Bob the go-ahead (provided Bob has indeed, gotten
- DA> the requisite permissions to post the article from both JASPR and
- DA> Hansen) to post the _entire_ article on MufoNet.
-
- Don, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I've been pulling
- literally 18-hour days at work, reconstructing a 14Gb NetWare server
- onto three alternative servers, at my company, in addition to the usual
- emergencies.
-
- Of course you are welcome to repost my earlier netmail (and this one, too)
- to MUFONet or any other forum you consider appropriate. I've already
- reposted it, myself, to Paranet and to the FidoNet SKEPTIC echo, where it
- has met with no reaction at all -- probably in part because protracted
- ad-hominem articles attacking skeptics' motives (as opposed to their work
- considered on its specific merits) are nothing new.
-
- In fact, Richard Broughton, Jerome Clark, Marcello Truzzi, and others --
- many of them thanked as sources by Hansen -- have made this something of a
- cottage industry for almost two decades. They crib from one another so
- extensively that you get a sense of what one might call "deja lu" ;-> --
- and they never seem to get the point: that lambasting skeptics' allegedly
- disreputable motives, methods, etc., is a meaningless sideshow, casting
- no light whatsoever on whether they're _correct_ on _particular claims
- of testable fact_. Frankly, when the articles consist of little else,
- one suspects it tells us more about the writers than about the subjects.
-
- However, Hansen's article holds interest for the three reasons I cited
- in my earlier netmail piece, and I'd truly like to be able to *legally*
- distribute it in electronic form -- as I also would with Dennis Rawlins's
- "sTARBABY" article from _Fate_ magazine. Unfortunately, this requires
- _my_ getting signed, dated reprint permission _on paper_ from the
- copyright holder -- in the case of Hansen's piece, the _Journal of the
- American Society for Psychical Research_. A third party's claim in
- forwarded echomail that such permission has been granted globally does
- NOT suffice. With the numerous threats and lawsuits against my and
- other skeptics' organisations (some of which have been participated in
- by people Hansen thanks as sources), I'm obliged to maintain a strict
- standard of legality, including where copyright infringement is concerned.
-
- If and only if I get the necessary permission, I will be quite pleased
- to distribute my electronic copy of Hansen's piece -- a more complete
- and error-free copy than Bob Dunn's -- for free to the public, via my
- BBS, Internet e-mail account, and on FTP sites.
-
- One could spend a week taking apart the innuendo in Hansen's piece,
- since, as I mentioned, it's an almost miraculously complete compendium
- of all the traditional ad-hominem slurs from the prior two decades --
- which is what makes it so valuable. I mentioned at least one (I think)
- in my prior netmail. Here's another: Without specifically saying so,
- Hansen insinuates that the brief note in the Spring '82 issue ("Policy
- on Sponsoring Research: Testing Individual Claims, and Conducting
- Investigations of Alleged Paranormal Powers and Phenomena), clarifying
- that CSICOP would not itself be carrying out research until it had
- resources to do so, was some sort of "fallout" from Dennis Rawlins's
- confused charges of "a Watergate-style cover-up" in the Mars Effect tests
- that Stanford statistician Marvin Zelen (mostly) carried out and
- published in _Skeptical Inquirer_. Hansen does not bother to cite the
- obvious reason -- cited plain as day in the "Policy" piece -- that
- CSICOP simply had a ridiculously tiny staff and almost no money.
- (Of course, Hansen copies his line of appeal pretty much verbatim
- from Rawlins, except removing the original's rather fevered tone.)
-
- Further, Hansen goes on to draw some of his typical sweeping inferences
- about this, in the "Abstract":
-
- Despite the name of the organization, actual research is a very
- low priority of the Committee. In fact, CSICOP instituted a
- policy against doing research itself.
-
- First, this is, of course, not quite correct: As it clearly specified
- in the very brief piece he refers to, CSICOP clearly did not _at that
- time_ have the money or staffing to do meaningful scientific research,
- but specifically did not "preclude more active involvement of CSICOP
- in research in the future, if resources become more abundant." CSICOP
- had nothing against it _doing research_, just against doing research it
- couldn't hope -- at that time -- to staff or fund.
-
- Second, there's the "despite the name of the organization" bit. This
- is a perennial favourite. I remember the way the thumb-suckers on the
- CompuServe Paranormal Issues forum had a field day when Richard Broughton
- trotted this one out, there. "What, they _don't do research_? How dare
- they call themselves a committee for scientific investigation?" They
- were having such a good time, I didn't have the heart to insert a reality
- check.
-
- For, you see, the American Association for the Advancement of Science
- (publisher of _Science_ magazine) ALSO doesn't do research. For that
- matter, neither does the Parapsychological Association (an affiliate
- member of the AAAS, and likewise a publisher). Of course, committee
- _members_ of both organisations do carry out research, and both groups
- publish research carried out by their members and others.
-
- My point? _The same is true of CSICOP._ Further, that fact was ALSO
- present, plain as day, in the brief "Policy" piece Hansen told his
- readers about, but he didn't see fit to include it. For that matter,
- any reader taking the time to _think_ about Hansen's "despite the name"
- sentence will see that it doesn't make sense. CSICOP's name says it's
- a committee FOR (in favour of, advocating) scientific examination of
- claims of the paranormal. Hansen goes out of his way to misunderstand
- the group's title, and then uses his misunderstanding to imply that
- the name is dishonest.
-
- For someone new to the topic, this would be an understandable error.
- However, it's a VERY OLD bit of anti-CSICOP rhetoric, that I've been
- hearing for about two decades, and expect to hear for many more.
- Hansen (and Broughton, author of the similarly polemical book _Parapsychology,
- the Controversial Science_, for that matter)
- certainly should know better. However, the problem with picking
- apart this sort of insinuation is that you could spend a week doing
- it, because Hansen's piece is packed chock-full of this sort of stuff.
-
- In fact, the shots only get cheaper as you go along. Hansen finds
- space to talk about philosopher Corliss Lamont and scientist J.B.S.
- Haldane as "detractors of early scientific research" as part of a
- slur-by-association effort with earlier, unrelated groups. However,
- he's not content to stop there: He also throws in a totally gratuitous
- footnote to the effect that those two were "promoters of the Stalinist
- U.S.S.R."
-
- Great! So, now, we've established in suitably pseudo-academic language,
- through innuendo, that CSICOP is associated with Stalinism. That's just
- a bit juvenile, don't you think?
-
- And so it goes. However, probably most of Hansen's intended readership
- either cannot or will not distinguish between innuendo and relevant
- criticisms, so they'll be happy with it. Given appropriate reprint
- rights, I'll be glad to help make them happy. Others would, after all,
- also find the piece interesting for somewhat better reasons.
-
- If you repost my earlier netmail, please indulge my writer's vanity
- by fixing two blunders I made because I was tired: I misspelled
- "aficionado" about six or seven paragraphs from the end, and later
- wrote "who's" instead of the correct term, "whose", about three
- paragraphs from the end. Thanks!
-
- Cheers,
- Rick Moen
- Member, Board of Directors
- Bay Area Skeptics
- (but not purporting to speak for anyone but himself)
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