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From disney.src.umd.edu!mojo.eng.umd.edu!mimsy!haven.umd.edu!uvaarpa!mmdf Thu Aug 22 13:22:59 EDT 1991
Article: 49114 of rec.music.gdead:
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From: ezucker@pica.army.mil (AED-PD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: MSG AREA MAP
Message-ID: <1991Aug22.165213.25308@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
Date: 22 Aug 91 16:52:13 GMT
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Hello Folks,
Just for your information, Here's the MSG immediate area map again.
EDDIE
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN'S IMMEDIATE AREA (NOT TO SCALE, OF COURSE!)
*PATH Station
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS
-- ---------------- --------------- --------------------- --------------
|3 | | 3 | Macy's | 3 | | 3 |
|4 | | 3 | | 2 | *BLARNEY STONE!!! | 1 |
|T | | R | | N | *Pizza | S |
|H | | D | | D | *Convenience store| T |
| | McAnns*| | | | | |
|S | Bar*| S | | S | | S |
|T.| SbarroPizza* | T.| N.Y. Penta | T.| | T.|
-- ---------------- --------------- --------------------- -------------
Foodjoints^^ 7TH AVENUE
-- ---------------- ----------------*BIG APE--------------- -------------
| | (TimJ)Dalton* | | ------------- | |
| | Books | | |tall building| | |*Chinesefood
| | | |-------------|-----|-----------------| |*Pizza
| | Toots Shoor*| | Street w/shitloads of waiting cabs | |*Parking
| | | |-------------|-----|-----------------| | deck (@)
| | parking deck* | | | | *great big | |
| | open air park | | /--------\ pile of | |
*|<--TGIFridays | |CharleyO's*( MADISON ) horseshit | |
| | | | (SQ. GARDEN) | |
*|<--Foodjoints | | \--------/ <PENN STATION | |*Seedy Bar
-- ---------------- --------------------------------------- -------------
8TH AVENUE
-- ---------------- -------------------------------------- ------------
| | | | | | @=Nitrous
| |parking lot | | NEW YORK CITY POST OFFICE | | lots from
| |a few blocks up| | | | Hell
| | (@) \/ | | | |
Notes: -Beefsteak Charley's is in the hallway between the "tall building"
and MSG itself.
-There are more great big steaming piles of horseshit
-Don't buy *anything* in the area of the BIG APE. Chances are it's bogus.
-PENN STATION is underneath the entire block of the "tall building"
and MSG.
-BLARNEY STONE is your best bet for meeting up with NETheads
*BEFORE* & *AFTER* each and every show. Awesome Hofbrau, Awesome
Pints O' Stout, tolerably crowded.
Courtesy of REB:
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, NYC. - by R.E.B.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. 401 403 406 407 410 411 .
. 303 306 309 310 313 314 414 .
. 447 202 204 206 207 209 210 317 .
. 302 102 104 106 107 109 110 212 .
. 201 5 8 11 16 19 23 112 .
. 101 ----------------------------\ .
.445 1/ K M O \ 26 .
. 349 233 133 58/-----------------------------S | 27 114 214 320 .
.443 / J J R T | 418.
. 347 232 132 57 A |28 115 215 322 .
.442 \ H H A G | 419.
. 347 232 132 56\-----------------------------E | 29 116 216 324 .
. 55\ G E C /30 .
. 131 -----------------------------/ .
. 230 53 48 45 40 37 33 118 .
. 343 128 126 124 123 121 120 218 .
. 438 228 226 224 223 221 220 327 .
. 341 338 335 334 331 330 423 .
. 435 434 431 430 427 426 .
.......................................................
Secs 1 to 58 have parts A to E or F with A nearst the center of the arena.
Also, the 400 level is a complete circle while the others form an oval.
From agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!uvaarpa!mmdf Fri Aug 20 16:58:52 PDT 1993
Article: 96648 of rec.music.gdead
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From: "Seth M. Dworken" <p00123@psilink.com>
Subject: MSG Layout, digestifier addresses, After Dark
Message-ID: <1993Aug20.225957.7278@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
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After Dark can be found at your local software store or mail order
outfit. It is copyrighted software, but it's not expensive at all.
=======
Here are the proper addresses to use regarding the Dead Flames digestifier:
|** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
|
|The service addresses, to which questions about the list itself and requests
|to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, are as follows:
|
| Internet: Dead-Flames-Request@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU
| Dead-Flames-Request@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU
| BITNET: DF-Req@Virginia
| UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!dead-flames-request
|
|You can send mail to the entire list (and rec.music.gdead) via one of these
|addresses:
|
| Internet: Dead-Flames@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU
| BITNET: D-Flames@Virginia
| UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!dead-flames
|
|End of Dead-Flames Digest
|******************************
|
========
Here is a layout for MSG that I saved. I can't vouch for its accuracy...
Gee, how come nobody likes to be surprised by finding out where
their seats are when they get to the show? A little suspense, a touch
of the unknown...!?
-Seth
=========
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, NYC. - by R.E.B.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. 401 403 406 407 410 411 .
. 303 306 309 310 313 314 414 .
. 447 202 204 206 207 209 210 317 .
. 302 102 104 106 107 109 110 212 .
. 201 5 8 11 16 19 23 112 .
. 101 ----------------------------\ .
.445 1/ K M O \ 26 .
. 349 233 133 58/-----------------------------S | 27 114 214 320 .
.443 / J J R T | 418.
. 347 232 132 57 A |28 115 215 322 .
.442 \ H H A G | 419.
. 347 232 132 56\-----------------------------E | 29 116 216 324 .
. 55\ G E C /30 .
. 131 -----------------------------/ .
. 230 53 48 45 40 37 33 118 .
. 343 128 126 124 123 121 120 218 .
. 438 228 226 224 223 221 220 327 .
. 341 338 335 334 331 330 423 .
. 435 434 431 430 427 426 .
.......................................................
Secs 1 to 58 have parts A to E or F with A nearst the center of the arena.
Also, the 400 level is a complete circle while the others form an oval.
From agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!mmdf Mon Aug 23 12:37:57 PDT 1993
Article: 96771 of rec.music.gdead
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From: Larry Winer <larry@tudor.com>
Subject: MSG Layout #1 ; #2 to follow
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.140609.24506@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
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MSG layout #1
8/23/93
The following is the layout for the sections 1-12 (floor)
and 35-97 (first level circling the floor). There
are no sections 13-34, 38, and 39 used for concerts.
Special Notes sections 1-12 :
a) Sections 1-4 have rows A-Z
b) Sections 5-8 have rows A-S
c) Sections 9-12 have rows A-P
d) The seats in EACH row of EACH section begin with seat #1
on the left of the diagram and increment to the right.
e) Section 1 is Jerry/Vince's side and Section 4 is
Phil's side.
Special Notes sections 35-97 (no 38,39) :
a) The front corners of the stage are next to sections 63/64 (Phil)
and 70/71 (Vince).
b) Each section has 5 subsections (A,B,C,D,E).
c) Subsections A & C have 3 rows and subsections B, D, & E each
have 2 rows. Therefore, section 52A contains the first three
rows up from the floor, section 52B contains the next two
rows up from the floor, etc. As an example section 52C, Row B
would be the 7th row from the floor.
NOT TO SCALE! Only significant sections are displayed for
reference purposes.
|------------------------------------------|
64 | STAGE | 70
63 |------------------------------------------| 71
62 |-----------|-------------|-------------|-------------| 72
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-----------|-------------|-------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
53 | | | | | 81
| 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 |
52 | | | | | 82
| | | | |
| | | | |
|-----------|-------------|-------------|-------------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
41 |-----------|-------------|-------------|-------------| 93
37 36 35
40 94
97 96 95
Please send any questions or corrections to larry@tudor.com
I should have the 100-400 sections done today (Monday).
-larry
Larry Winer
larry@tudor.com
From agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!uvaarpa!mmdf Tue Aug 24 11:47:14 PDT 1993
Article: 96842 of rec.music.gdead
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Path: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!uvaarpa!mmdf
From: Larry Winer <larry@tudor.com>
Subject: MSG Layout
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.233202.29891@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
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MSG layout
8/23/93
The following is the layout for MSG.
The sections used for concerts are:
1-12 (floor)
35-97 (first section circling the floor; no 38 & 39),
101-133,
201-234,
301-350,
401-428.
Special Notes sections 1-12 :
a) Sections 1-4 have rows A-Z
b) Sections 5-8 have rows A-S
c) Sections 9-12 have rows A-P
d) The seats in EACH row of EACH section begin with seat #1
on the left of the diagram and increment to the right.
e) Section 1 is Jerry/Vince's side and Section 4 is
Phil's side.
Special Notes sections 35-97 (no 38,39) :
a) The front corners of the stage are next to sections 63/64 (Phil)
and 70/71 (Vince).
b) Each section has 5 subsections (A,B,C,D,E).
c) Subsections A & C have 3 rows and subsections B, D, & E each
have 2 rows. Therefore, section 52A contains the first three
rows up from the floor, section 52B contains the next two
rows up from the floor, etc. As an example section 52C, Row B
would be the 7th row from the floor.
Special Notes sections 100+ :
a) 100's Sections have rows A-F
b) 200's Sections have rows A-E
c) 300's Sections have rows A-O (some sections vary by a row or two)
d) 400's Sections have rows A-G
e) Seating proceeds counter clockwise in each section. This means
that seat #1 in each section is next to the higher numbered section
that borders it (except when the numbers start back at 101, etc.).
f) The sections on the sides of the back corners of the stage are
112/212/317/409 (Phil side), 118/218/327/410 (Jerry/Vince side).
NOT TO SCALE! Only significant sections are displayed for
reference purposes.
409 414 410
317 322 327
212 215 218
112 115 118
65 67 69
|--------------------------|
64 | STAGE | 70
63 |--------------------------| 71
62 |-------|-------|-------|-------| 72
| | | | |
| | | | |
313 | | | | | 331
407 209 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 221 421
109 | | | | | 121
57 | | | | | 77
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
406 | | | | |
310 207 107 53 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 81 123 223 334 423
309 206 106 52 | | | | | 82 124 224 335
405 | | | | |
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
47 | | | | | 87
| | | | |
| 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 |
| | | | |
| | | | |
41 | | | | | 93
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
40 37 36 35 94
101 97 96 95 129
201 132 229
302 232 342
401 347 428
Please send any questions or corrections to larry@tudor.com
-larry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Larry Winer "Some folks up in treetops just looking for their kites"
larry@tudor.com Weir, Hunter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!mmdf Tue Aug 24 11:47:24 PDT 1993
Article: 96843 of rec.music.gdead
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Path: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!mmdf
From: Larry Winer <larry@tudor.com>
Subject: MSG Layout; layout first, notes second (for printing purposes)
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.233855.434@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
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MSG layout
8/23/93
The following is the layout for MSG.
The sections used for concerts are:
1-12 (floor)
35-97 (first section circling the floor; no 38 & 39),
101-133,
201-234,
301-350,
401-428.
SPECIAL NOTES BELOW THE LAYOUT.
NOT TO SCALE! Only significant sections are displayed for
reference purposes.
409 414 410
317 322 327
212 215 218
112 115 118
65 67 69
|--------------------------|
64 | STAGE | 70
63 |--------------------------| 71
62 |-------|-------|-------|-------| 72
| | | | |
| | | | |
313 | | | | | 331
407 209 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 221 421
109 | | | | | 121
57 | | | | | 77
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
406 | | | | |
310 207 107 53 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 81 123 223 334 423
309 206 106 52 | | | | | 82 124 224 335
405 | | | | |
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
47 | | | | | 87
| | | | |
| 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 |
| | | | |
| | | | |
41 | | | | | 93
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
40 37 36 35 94
101 97 96 95 129
201 132 229
302 232 342
401 347 428
Special Notes sections 1-12 :
a) Sections 1-4 have rows A-Z
b) Sections 5-8 have rows A-S
c) Sections 9-12 have rows A-P
d) The seats in EACH row of EACH section begin with seat #1
on the left of the diagram and increment to the right.
e) Section 1 is Jerry/Vince's side and Section 4 is
Phil's side.
Special Notes sections 35-97 (no 38,39) :
a) The front corners of the stage are next to sections 63/64 (Phil)
and 70/71 (Vince).
b) Each section has 5 subsections (A,B,C,D,E).
c) Subsections A & C have 3 rows and subsections B, D, & E each
have 2 rows. Therefore, section 52A contains the first three
rows up from the floor, section 52B contains the next two
rows up from the floor, etc. As an example section 52C, Row B
would be the 7th row from the floor.
Special Notes sections 100+ :
a) 100's Sections have rows A-F
b) 200's Sections have rows A-E
c) 300's Sections have rows A-O (some sections vary by a row or two)
d) 400's Sections have rows A-G
e) Seating proceeds counter clockwise in each section. This means
that seat #1 in each section is next to the higher numbered section
that borders it (except when the numbers start back at 101, etc.).
f) The sections on the sides of the back corners of the stage are
112/212/317/409 (Phil side), 118/218/327/410 (Jerry/Vince side).
Please send any questions or corrections to larry@tudor.com
-larry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Larry Winer "Some folks up in treetops just looking for their kites"
larry@tudor.com Weir, Hunter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!mmdf Wed Sep 1 08:22:53 PDT 1993
Article: 97646 of rec.music.gdead
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From: Larry Winer <larry@tudor.com>
Subject: MSG Layout Update/Correction for Sections 34 & 38
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.140806.27689@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>
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MSG layout
9/1/93 (correction added for sections 34 and 38)
The following is the layout for MSG.
The sections used for concerts are:
1-12 (floor)
34-97 (first section circling the floor; no 39),
101-133,
201-234,
301-350,
401-428.
SPECIAL NOTES BELOW THE LAYOUT.
NOT TO SCALE! Only significant sections are displayed for
reference purposes.
409 414 410
317 322 327
212 215 218
112 115 118
65 67 69
|--------------------------|
64 | STAGE | 70
63 |--------------------------| 71
62 |-------|-------|-------|-------| 72
| | | | |
| | | | |
313 | | | | | 331
407 209 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 221 421
109 | | | | | 121
57 | | | | | 77
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
| | | | |
406 | | | | |
310 207 107 53 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 81 123 223 334 423
309 206 106 52 | | | | | 82 124 224 335
405 | | | | |
| | | | |
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| | | | |
47 | | | | | 87
| | | | |
| 12 | 11 | 10 | 9 |
| | | | |
| | | | |
41 | | | | | 93
|-------|-------|-------|-------|
40 38 37 36 35 34 94
101 97 96 95 129
201 132 229
302 232 342
401 347 428
Special Notes sections 1-12 :
a) Sections 1-4 have rows A-Z
b) Sections 5-8 have rows A-S
c) Sections 9-12 have rows A-P
d) The seats in EACH row of EACH section begin with seat #1
on the left of the diagram and increment to the right.
e) Section 1 is Jerry/Vince's side and Section 4 is
Phil's side.
Special Notes sections 34-97 (no 39) :
a) The front corners of the stage are next to sections 63/64 (Phil)
and 70/71 (Vince).
b) Each section has 5 subsections (A,B,C,D,E).
c) Subsections A & C have 3 rows and subsections B, D, & E each
have 2 rows. Therefore, section 52A contains the first three
rows up from the floor, section 52B contains the next two
rows up from the floor, etc. As an example section 52C, Row B
would be the 7th row from the floor.
d) Sections 34 and 38 are small sections at the corners of the floor.
The rows and seats may have different quantities than the
previously described sections.
Special Notes sections 100+ :
a) 100's Sections have rows A-F
b) 200's Sections have rows A-E
c) 300's Sections have rows A-O (some sections vary by a row or two)
d) 400's Sections have rows A-G
e) Seating proceeds counter clockwise in each section. This means
that seat #1 in each section is next to the higher numbered section
that borders it (except when the numbers start back at 101, etc.).
f) The sections on the sides of the back corners of the stage are
112/212/317/409 (Phil side), 118/218/327/410 (Jerry/Vince side).
Please send any questions or corrections to larry@tudor.com
-larry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Larry Winer "Some folks up in treetops just looking for their kites"
larry@tudor.com Weir, Hunter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
