2 Hansie's personal Observations of the new OS! (Also Read Warning!)
We have a DOS application which refuses to run off FAT 32 on OSR2??
Windows 96 is just about upon us and as such it is time that we began to discus this minor upgrade in this FAQ. There are some subtle differences between it and Windows 95 and it here that we will be discussing them. For myself I have allready developed a few pet hates but we'll see how things pan out.
Clicking on the taskbar now not only opens minimised windows but it also closes them again if you click the programs task bar icon.
Grrr it activates and select everything that is beneath the mouse pointer I personally could have done without this crap. Expecially in Netscape - touch a file in the save as dialogue and there goes the original file name!!!!
This from Microsoft
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1 Installing OSR2 on a machines allready installed with Windows 95?
Can I upgrade my extisting installation of Windows95 to OSR2 with the OSR2 disk?
The arguments......
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:15:57 -0800 From: Sean Erwin <erwin@LING.UCSD.EDU> Subject: Re: APPS: oemsr2 installation problem
No. If you attempt to upgrade from an earlier version of Windows95, it will give an error message and not let you proceed. You can only install OSR2 on top of DOS, Windows 3.1/WFW, or OS/2(?).
Okay, but there's gotta be a way to fool it into upgrading from an earlier version of Windows95!!!!
According to various sources, renaming the file "WIN.COM" in the C:\WINDOWS directory will do this. Rename the file, then proceed with the upgrade. Warning: I haven't yet confirmed that this will work. Do not attempt this unless you are comfortable mucking around with system files.
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:03:02 -0600 From: Nathan Schuler <nschuler@SANASYS.COM> Subject: Re: APPS: oemsr2 installation problem
If the version 95b I have could not be used as an upgrade to my win95a, how could I install a new version 95b on my system? And can I keep and use my old win95a since I have installed many programs on it and re-install takes much time. My system has two SCSI harddrives-1GB(Win95a boot, single partition) and another 2GB(two partition:one is VFAT and other is NTFS), and DriveSpace3 is used.
Win95b is an entirely new OS and can not be installed on top of anything else. ??? To get it install you need to FDISK your boot drive. As for all your programs, you need to do a back of your disk. I would just backup all your data files and just restore everything else from the install disks. Since I noticed that you have NT, you might want to create a 10MB primary partition on your boot drive and have it formatted in FAT16 or FAT12 so you can still have multi-boot capability. I you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:03:02 -0600 From: Hans Klarenbeek <hansie@wantree.com.au> Subject: Re: APPS: oemsr2 installation problem
I will be giving this a shot sometime real soon.... I figure the most sensible thing to change would be the registry so that U/Grading to NT4.0 will be possible... will keep you posted.... Done!! See below
The Truth...... Method 1
Date: Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 18:45:02 -0600 From: Hans Klarenbeek <hansie@wantree.com.au> Subject: Re: APPS: oemsr2 installation problem
Well I decided to give it a shot this week and well I certainly didn't have much fun (but then it was time clean the system anyway)
Procedure:- Copied OSR2 to the Hard-Drive. Renamed win.com to win.xxx and started the installer from DOS
Results:- All went very well in fact right up to the point where it said now installing software for any plug and play devices you may have and BOOM! - The machine locked up and refused to work under any circumstances other than safe mode..... I disabled Qemm but that wasn't it either - after some cursing and swearing I nuked both C: and D: partition (where the apps lived) and started from scratch.... No problem.... This is NOT TO say YOU will experience the same problems but be forewarned!!!!! (I have a fairly non-standard system with SCSI everything)
The Truth...... Method 2
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:05:39 -0600 From: Chip May <chip@xnet.com> Subject: RE: I would like to include method II of ugrading OSR2 to theWIN95-L FAQ
Installing OSR2 (95B) over 95, 95A..
Hope you have loads of disk space...
1) Make a temp directory on a hard drive - call it Win95.
2) Copy the Win95 directory from the CD to the new directory on your hard drive. From here, we work with the files on your hard drive.
3) Extract from PRECOPY2.CAB the file called SETUPPP.INF. Note: MS has a CAB file extraction tool available as a PowerToy on their WEB site.
4) Open LAYOUT.INF in a text editor. Search for "SETUPPP.INF". You should find: setuppp.inf=2,,4550
setuppp.inf=0,,4550
Save the changes..
This prevents the installation from extracting SETUPPP.INF from the CAB file and use the file we extracted instead.
5) Open SETUPPP.INF in a text editor. Search for "ProductType". You should find: ProductType=9
Save the changes...
This apparently tells setup that this is an upgrade.
6) Run SETUP from Windows95 off your hard drive.
When setup looks for the first win95_xx.cab, hopefully you can point it to your CD (\win95 directory) instead.
Note: This does NOT create any FAT32 partitions. Use Partition Magic or do a full backup of your new installation - from a 95B boot diskette with FDISK, FORMAT, and SYS - FDISK your drive, FORMAT the drive, then SYS the drive. Now do a full recover of the backup.
Note2: Other stuff:
After ProductType=x, add the line: UPI=24396-XXX-XXXXXXX
When I used the procedure, I had added the UPI= line. This lets you use your old CD KEY.
More experiments:
ProductType=1: | Upgrades without asking for CD KEY (serial number) |
ProductType=2: | I used this - the same as on my original Win95 upgrade. |
ProductType=3: | Wants a floppy install - doesn't work. |
ProductType=4: | Fails - Error - previous ops system installed. |
ProductType=5: | Works - asks for CD KEY, but won't take mine - can "ignore" |
ProductType=6 | Works OK |
ProductType=7: | Fails - Error - previous op system |
ProductType=8: | Fails - Error - previous op system |
I assume no liability for this routine. Proceed at your own risk.
Also see the Windows 95 OSR2 MiniFAQ
Date: Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 19:05:03 -0600 From: Hans Klarenbeek <hansie@wantree.com.au> Subject: Re: APPS: oemsr2 installation problem
2 Hansie's personal Observations of the new OS!
Notes On Changes to Win 95 OSR 2
On boot failure or Non proper (alt-F4) shutdown scandisk is automatically executed..
Quicktime movies are now playable by Win 95 out of the box.
Recognised Monitor (Optiquest V775 in my case - video card must support) as part of plug and play.
TimeZone animation has gone as per NT4.0 - Display Properties has altered to reflect the Millenium's setting (using generic
Joystick Control Panel now supports a multitude of sticks and controllers...
(Aussies) Netcomm / Banksia / Telstra Modems are now also listed in the Modem control panel
Execom Modems (Australia) are also listed and a 59.6 modem is listed here.
The Microsoft Intellimouse is NOT listed
The Internet Wizard now has provision for I/Net service providers .... Also when connected the connection indicator shows
Quickres is now built into the OS and activated by Control Panels / Display / Settings / SHOW SETTINGS ON TASKBAR!!
Animated icon in ScanDisk.
Also this from Adam Sharp
Date: Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 13:43:02 -0600 From: Adam Sharp [SMTP:asharp@DEXINFO.COM] Subject: APPS: oemsr2 WARNING!!!
OSR 2 uses the new Windows Driver Model (WDM) in which Win95 and NT 4 share the same drivers. The good news is that Microsoft included a boatload of drivers on the MSDN copy of OSR 2. The bad news is that if a driver you need was not included, or you need to add hardware after you install OSR, you can't. I learnt this the hard way - I installed OSR 2 on my laptop after Fdisking with FAT32 and a week after I installed it, decided to start using my Xircom 10/100 PC Card. But the OSR copy I have doesn't include the driver for it, and Xircom can't (or won't) help me. Guess I'll have to wait until the release...
OSR2 appears to be a closer bridge to NT 4.0 ( now I wonder whether the registry is like NT4.0?) Essentially this means that some new drivers may be needed for some stuff (NT 4.0 drivers should in theory work...) Hansie. It was pointed out to me recently that OSR2 is not quite there yet but OSR3 will be....
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