As A Canadian in China

This topic was created by proud canadian
[Tue 11 May, 15:36 Tasmanian Standard Time]

This is in regards to the previous topic, Canadians in China. I resent the fact that everyone in the world thinks that Canadians are automatically like Americans. We aren't Yes I agree that sometimes Canadians are often bullied into following the American 's lead, however we are not the same. We are often shadowed because we aren't extreme in our ideas. We are most known for our peacekeeping missions, and kind people. In response to the bombing, I am saddened to hear about the Chinese embassy and that the US fucked up again however the Canadian government is pushing for peace proceses at this time, but the Chinese have to understand that not only have their people been affected, but also the hundreds of thousands of ethnic Albanians. The Chinese is only hearing one side of the story. Do not feel animosity towards Canadians, we only want a peaceful end, and often the people have no say in what NATO does. Everyone is preaching about the US vs China. Which countries are being selfish now, and only thinking of themselves. Recently Canadians welcomed thousands of refugees. I am proud to be Canadian we are a strong soverign nation, and we may be beside the US but we are definitely don't stand in the shadow of the US.

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Isn't Canada part of NATO? Added by: just wondering
[Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 18:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]
How do you know the intelligence officers who mistook the Chinese embassy for a military target were all Americans? Aren't British, French, and German military officers involved in this? Yes, the U.S. is the leader, but they aren't acting alone. If you feel sorry for the thousands of ethnic Albanians forced out of their homes and the hundreds murdered, then do you support the bombing? If not, what is your "peaceful solution"?
Scary aren't we.... Added by: Not an American (indifferent@toronto.expat.ca)
[Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 23:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]
To reiterate...yes Canada is part of Nato; but I seriously doubt that the opinion of our leaders matters much in the end. When of course, they are actually expressing the will of the people. Further, we do not belong in the G7, and everyone on BaySt knows it...that was just a bit of polictical ass-kissing, and the fact that we are a next- door-neighbour of the U.S. with similiar population demographics. So who really calls the shots in the Japanese-WASP old boys club? EH? In the end, I really don't think that anyone cares about Canada, except Canadians...and half of them are trying to acquire U.S. working visas....so in the end...everyone else in the world assumes that we are Americans. We might as well be, then we could actually vote on critical policies that are decided for us in Washington. And by the way, PROUD CANADIAN, since when did we all of a sudden start liking each other? Are you from Calgary or something? I heard that you people wave flags a lot out there. Must be that nasty American influence again!
Canada and the World Added by: fec
[Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 2:58 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Yes, Canada is part of Nato, not that anybody really cares, or notices. I'm Canadian and not particularily happy about my country being involved in this collossal mess,why are we? probably because once again our spineless politicians succumed to pressure from south of the border, old story. quite similar to the Balkan war, old story. I generally do not run around blaming the American Government for anything, I do however, think that maybe this situation was not looked in its historical entirity, definitly a complex problem, as such it might have required a little more diplomacy than do as we say or we will bomb the hell out of you. Could be a little yankee arrogence there? Who knows. Canada sure isn't looking too good here either! Something else, all you dorky Canadians running around with flags on your packs etc. get over it, so many of you seem to think that as soon as people find ouy your from Canada they will sprinkle rose petals in front of you as you walk. If we have such wonderful people/culture etc. why do you not just act in what you feel is a manner appropriate to being a Canadian, let your conduct speak for itself. If you do not want to be mistaken for an American, don't put yourself into the ugly American stereotype. Apologies to all the cool yanks, there is idiots in every country. I'm done.
Canadian ? Added by: Islander
[Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 5:10 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Agree 100% with "fec". I am a Canadian too but certainly would never claim "higher" moral grounds for Canada in this matter. We may not agree with everything the US does but having virtually disarmed ourselves we are quite comfortable under the American umbrella. Canada could not defend itself even against a minor enemy. And as far as the generosity to the refugees is concerned the entire refugee policy of the Canadian government is a real laugh, a political gesture by opportunist politicians at the taxpayers' expense.
What a pleasant surprise Added by: just wondering
[Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 19:31 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Not an American, fec, and islander, you are three of the most sensible, open-minded, and level-headed Canadians I have encountered on the TT.
Thank ya'! Thank ya' very much! Added by: Not an American (indifferent@toronto.expat.ca)
[Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 23:05 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I thought I would come back to see a bunch of real angry anti-American compatriots throwing stones at me! Nice surprise!
more... Added by: fec
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 3:06 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I would have to agree with "not an American", I fully expected to have some whinning, flag bearing Canadians all over me for my prior remarks. It's nice to see others agree, thought I'd have to go into hiding, or move to Winnipeg. I suppose the placement of refugees in Canada is better than doing nothing, I would happily see Canada play a bigger role in this area, it would certainly beat dropping bombs, surely were going to run out soon? Political oppurtunism, I'm almost shocked the Government was able to come up with it, it is sad, the right ideas, the wrong reasons.
up Added by: Sh (ut)
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 8:23 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Yeah you Canadians are all peace-loving free-birds while we Americans are bloodthirsty war-mongers. Every single individual in our country would love to blow shit up while every Canadian would rather be curling or playing hockey. Sound stereotypical??? Then stop with the reversal.
Lies? who lies? Added by: lkfsdalkjfdslkj
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 10:08 Tasmanian Standard Time]
As for Chinese don't know the truth, that's a fat lie. Anyone who has a connectio nto the inet can connection www.sina.com.cn and learn all the facts, YES including those from CNN. So many knows BOTH side of the story. How many of you whiners (If I don't know that Chinese were killed I would think you were bombed and killed) actually ever tried to learn story from the other side other than fed? What pathetic bunch of losers trying fool themselves out of the embarrassment and guilt. Yes, guilt, you are the ultimate punish target of God because of your lies, because of your killing, and because of all your sins.
Fuck Americans! Added by: Fuck Americans!
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 10:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]
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Be Sensible Added by: Dave
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 11:34 Tasmanian Standard Time]
My partner is from China. I don't want to fuck an American. Dave
. Added by: Bobby (Bob@Hotmail.com)
[Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 12:23 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Canadians.... Americans in snow shoes. God Bless America!
Love you Bobby... Added by: Not an American (indifferent@toronto.expat.ca)
[Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 0:17 Tasmanian Standard Time]
...I am in Taipei now...so I can sell you my snow shoes real cheap....by the way "Sh"...most of the Candians who posted on this board do not seem to buy that "anti-American brainwashing shit". And I still think that the PROUD CANADIAN is from Someplace, Alberta! And in keeping with Dave's remark, my partner is Vietnamese, so I don't want to fuck any Americans thank you....although I often want to kill one particular Vietnamese man...who is of course my boyfriend.
Proud Canadian: you suck! Added by: Norman Bethune
[Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 18:54 Tasmanian Standard Time]
And so does your country! And stop choking at the Olympics, for god's sake!
Norman! I just want to know Added by: NotanAmerican (indifferent@toronto.expat.ca)
[Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 21:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]
...how can a country suck on something?! Or are you saying all the population sucks. If so, there would be a problem. It is too cold, and everyone's lips would stick to whatever they were sucking on!!! Imagine the embarrassment!!! Where is this PROUD CANADIAN person? Still in Calgary, or some other flat piece of land. EH!?
SH...EH! Added by: FEC
[Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 22:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]
Somebody is a little defensive. I re-read what I wrote a number of times but could not find anything overly accusatory in it. I don't really think the average yank is any more a war monger than anyone else. I can, however, see how I sounded like a peace loving curling fan for wishing Canada to take a more humanitarian role in the conflict, I geuss we can't have that kind of stuff happening eh SH. As for the idiot with the fuck america deal, you fuck off, and quite wasting space. Snowshoes? anyway Americans are just Canadians with more money. Take off eh.
immigrants allowed Added by: US
[Timestamp: Sat 15 May, 5:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]
U.S. has accepted over 20,000 refugees from the former yugoslavia and plans to take more. they are being given a place to stay, english instuction, job training and gvmt benefits in my home city.
too much! Added by: moili
[Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 13:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I feel sorry for all of you arguing about Canada & the U.S. Who really gives a flying shit. It is a old boring topic. "people are people so what should it be, you & I should get along so awfully" ???? you make the world shittier than it already is some daze
too much! Added by: moili
[Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 13:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I feel sorry for all of you arguing about Canada & the U.S. Who really gives a flying shit. It is a old boring topic. "people are people so what should it be, you & I should get along so awfully" ???? you make the world shittier than it already is some daze
TOO MUCH! Added by: MOILI
[Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 13:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I feel sorry for all of you arguing about Canada & the U.S. Who really gives a flying shit. It is a old boring topic. "people are people so what should it be, you & I should get along so awfully" ???? you make the world shittier than it already is some daze
TOO MUCH! Added by: MOILI
[Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 13:53 Tasmanian Standard Time]
I feel sorry for all of you arguing about Canada & the U.S. Who really gives a flying shit. It is a old boring topic. "people are people so what should it be, you & I should get along so awfully" ???? you make the world shittier than it already is some daze
For Moili's Emphatic Post Added by: Not an American (indifferent@expat.to.ca)
[Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 21:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]
...I never said that I disliked Americans, and neither did Fec, or Islander. What I DID SAY (between the lines) is that us Canadians are not a unified group...we dislike each other from region to region...."anti-Americanism" is just a hangover from the 60's when all the anti-war professors ran and hid in Canadian Universities. Their "anti-American government" position...turned into an overall "anti- American" position. Canada is just a small country, beside a world power. How can anyone realistically assert that we have the political or economic freedom to determine our own will? And who cares anyway? Get with the program....this is the late 1990's....it's the "save your own butt from poverty" era. Proud Canadain started all this...but then never returned to reply? Where are you P.C.? Still out there in Alberta with a pickup truck and an assault rifle? And the latest "Reform Party" pamphlet?

As A Canadian in China

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