Western Canada, what's up your arse?

This topic was created by Clive
[Sat 17 April, 18:25 Tasmanian Standard Time]

As a sometime follower of this list, I've noticed that
Western Canadians tend to get bloody defensive in their
reactions to what Easterners say. I'm a Brit with
relatives and friends all over Canada, been three times,
and don't understand what the fuss is.
Perhaps I, as an outsider, could give a more objective
opinion?
The Eastern cities of Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and Quebec
City are all charming in their own ways, and hear this - of
all the western cities I've been to, only Winnipeg comes
close to having any of the urban atmosphere of their
Eastern cousins. Calgary and Edmonton are dull dull dull,
pointless as destinations for non-Canadians wanting to see
Canada. Vancouver is blessed by its surrounding beauty -
the city itself is, again, devoid of any charm.
But then, one goes to the West to see the Rockies, no? In
fact, one goes to Canada for its natural beauty, and not to
see cities. Toronto is no New York, no matter its status
as the world's most diverse city. If you were going to see
only one city in Canada, it would have to be Quebec City.
Who would disagree?
So why all the argument?

[There are 10 posts - the latest was added on Thu 6 May, 5:30]

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  1. The real east Added by: Jen
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 2:05 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hey did you know that there are people and even cities east
    of Ottawa and Quebec City? We may be small compared to the
    rest of the larger cities in Canada. I think we, as
    maritimers are just as nice if not nicer then Canadian out
    west, hey most of the people out west are from Atlantic
    Canada. Maybe people should look beyond Toronto and Ottawa
    and see more of Canada. Don't forget Nova Scotia, New
    Brunswick and Prince Edward Island. We do exist!!!



  2. The West Added by: trans am
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 2:54 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    First you ask what our problem is in the west, and then you
    go on to answer your own question. An outsider is hardly
    able to understand the conflicts between East and West
    better than a Canadian-- Let me disabuse you of these ideas
    and let you in on one or two of Canada's dirty little
    secrets. First no one has ever said that Calgary or
    Edmonton were exciting places in terms of night life -
    places with more rural connections hardly ever are - but
    there is a trade off - Toronto has a good music scene,
    Calgary has a good climbing scene - Toronto has unaffordable
    housing and no job opportunitues, Calgary is an ideal place
    to raise a family. Toronto has lots of bars and clubs blah
    blah blah, but for how long does that stay interesting? -
    I'm going mountaineering again tomorrow - how many in the
    East can say that? Basically what we westerners don't like
    is the utterly shallow view that we are dull - and there is
    nothing to do - end of story, and dismiss us like we don;t
    count because we don't have a theatre district -just like
    you have done my friend. I say get your head out of arse,
    and you'll never be bored here.
    (as a side note - I have travelled the world - and I still
    believe that the prarie/foothill landscape surrounding
    Calgary is the most beautiful.)



  3. Trans-am Added by: Al
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 3:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You might have a point in your comparison list, although I
    am sure neither city has 100% of on thing and the other 0%
    of it.
    Anyway, that's not what I wanted to say. I just would like
    to react on what you said about Southern Alberta being the
    most beautiful place on earth.
    Isn't it a little too much to say (objectivly)? You must
    have some kind of an emotional involvment with that region
    (pride, childhood, etc...) to say that.
    It's a nice place for sure but not the greatest.



  4. Wrong spot Added by: Damia
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 14:18 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi there.
    I think that this might be a better discussion to carry out
    in the "your choice" branch of the thornbush.



  5. Wrong spot Added by: Damia
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 14:18 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi there.
    I think that this might be a better discussion to carry out
    in the "your choice" branch of the thornbush.



  6. opinion Added by: Cindy
    [Timestamp: Mon 19 April, 7:25 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    One persons opinion is another's pain in the arse! Don't get too upset by the original posters remarks, as they can only see with their own eyes.



  7. not again Added by: laalaa
    [Timestamp: Thu 22 April, 8:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    looky here mate, this tree was clogged with this drivel for
    weeks, and now it isn't. or is it?
    please, let us not succumb yet again to this endless debate.



  8. Montreal, baby! Added by: Kat
    [Timestamp: Sun 25 April, 12:41 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Ok, I'm FROM Edmonton and I agree. It is dull, although
    it's cozy and homey and a damn good time. Go to Whyte Ave
    and it's all you need. Then again, the best city in Canada
    remains Montreal. Quebec City is beautiful, but only the
    Old Town... Montreal is just gorgeous no matter where you
    go.
    Enjoy!
    And don't miss Edmonton!



  9. Montreal, baby! Added by: Kat
    [Timestamp: Sun 25 April, 12:42 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Ok, I'm FROM Edmonton and I agree. It is dull, although
    it's cozy and homey and a damn good time. Go to Whyte Ave
    and it's all you need. Then again, the best city in Canada
    remains Montreal. Quebec City is beautiful, but only the
    Old Town... Montreal is just gorgeous no matter where you
    go.
    Enjoy!
    And don't miss Edmonton!



  10. Canad, East vs West Added by: Peter Bryan (oldpot@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Thu 6 May, 5:30 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I'm a Brit too and I have worked at many places across Canada and they all have their good points :
    In Newfoundland try Gross Mourne National Park
    In Nova Scotia, Halifax has lots of history and some night life. For scenery try the Cape Breton Highlands
    In New Brunswick visit the Fundy National Park
    Before going to mainland Quebec, visit Isles de la Madelene (spelling?) - very friendly people
    I agree with you that Quebec City (Old Town) is, to
    European eyes the most beautiful city in North America.
    I think Montreal has gone downhill since the 70s.
    For a mixture of English and French, language & Music,
    try
    Sentiers Carman Trails at Wakefield Quebec
    an International Hostel 25km (16M) North of Ottawa
    e-mail carman@magma.ca
    Phone 819 459 3180
    For Quebec City, Montreal or Toronto take the
    Moose Bus, a hop-on, hop-off service which does
    to Carman Trails from those cities
    Out West try Waterton National Park in southern Alberta
    and beyond Vancouver go to the Gulf Islands ;
    Hornby and Quadra are good places for beach parties
    Go to Canada and enjoy yourselves Peter




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