Hi, i am a 23 year old gay egyptian male living in Cairo. I
am searching for young gay males like myself in Egypt. If
you have any information , or would like to contact me
yourself , email me on the following address:
hiboysr@hotmail.com
Looking forwards to hearing from you.
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I will be in the great land of Egypt - cairo and such for a
month or so, and would like the opportunity to meet-up
someone like myslef to see things and see what occurs. Let
me know of who you are - look forward to hearing more.
hi,
i am an 18 year old gay living in cairo. i like to meet young gays my age . if you are interested, drop me a note, and i shall contact you.
Thanks
i am searching for gays from egypt
hi walid,
i am rami. why didn't you leave your email address that i may be able to contact you . i am an 18 year old egyptian gay like you and would like to make friends with you. my email address is : romex3@yahoo.com
if you read this message, write me directly
rami
I am 36 y/o Egyptian Gay in cairo looking for young gays
18-20. I am well shaped and good looking with smooth skin
and hair.
Drop me a note
Hi everybody , I am 26 leaving in Alex , my ame for this
ad is . I feel that i am lonely . All I need for now is
somebody to talk to and trust maybe something more will
happen nobody knows . I use G-guy as a name till I feel
more confortable . Please anybody who feels we can be
friend or more can conect me right away but i prefer be
friend in the beginnig at least
hi gays Iam 18 years old Iam searching for gay in egypt
Ilive in cairo my email is ahmedshady@hotmail.com
i have been searching for gay in egypt ,i am 19 and looking forword to have a chat and more with you
Hai,
I am a 32 years and staying quite often in Cairo. I live in Amsterdam Holland and work as a banker.
I would like to meet a nice handsome with whome I can share many things and who can teach me the do`s and dont`s of the arabian society.
I am blond and my favorite pasttimes are sqaush and swimming.
Don`t hesitate and mail me!
hi gays my name is amr and i live in cairo . i am gay
and ready to have sex with gay like me . i want to suck
cock and touch ass . and feel a cock in my hole . my email
is abahgat@hotmail.com reply back fast . amr
HIIIIIIII
I LOVE TO MEET ALOT OF PPL
I LOVE FRIENDSHIP IS BETTER THAN ANY RELATION
I AM FROM ALEX
Hi Gays,
My name is khaled , Iam 37 years , live in cairo ,
I love to meet gays , have action with them
Call me now please.
I m jalil from Malaysia. I m 5'7" and 140 pounds. I like to
know egyptian men or middle eastern/Mediteranean looking men
for friendship and more, maybe. I live and work in Kuala
Lumpur, Malaysia.I guess i m not bad looking. well....
i like a man who are of medium built to large size....
i am a gay ,19's ,want to have friends and fun
nice guys and nice site
hi1 i'm emad ,i'm a top gay very fucking need anyone to
sleep with me & do for me anything with NO PROBLUME
Hi all,
Thanks for whom made this site so much.
I think I know some guys here, mailing them, Hi all of you.
I'm 25 years, in Cairo, Like to meet nice guy, who like to
be a bottom for me, I have long experince, So you will like
me. 172 cm. tall, 62 kgm. wight slim but not much, prefere
slim guys, but it's ok for others.
I need to but my "Zopr" in your "Tiz" wa "Anikak"
hi guys,
I come from Holland and I will visit your great country in
January 1999. I will stay in Hurghada.
If anyone wants to meet me in Hurghada, please mail me.
I am 26years, blond hair, blue eyes, 1,79m, 64kg.
I hope I can meet some nice gay guys when i am in Egypt.
Please mail me.
Yours, Daan
I like to talk with you
hallo my name is body
Im new gay Ineed some one my t:3358734 Ilive in cairo
post another mess with yr emil address. wud like to write
to u.
Hi guys,
I'm going to be in Hurgada for 7 days from the 1st of
desember..
I'm 27, good-looking and a happy-chap. Is there any chance
that we can meet? Try with e-mail first, and away we go.
I'm from norway by the way...........
RoB
Visiting Egypt mid-November to mid-December. Will appreciate
information concerning gay places (bars, etc.) Also info on
Hammans and other suggestions. Might be interested in
meeting gays living in Cairo or Luxor. Contact me before
Nov. 12.
I am an American looking to meet nice young gays in Egypt.
Please write me and tell about yourself and life in Egypt.
I would like to know how to meet a nice Egyptian guy and
where to go to meet him. I have blond hair and blue eyes
and I love Egyptians! I will soon come to visit your
country and I would like to know where to go. Maybe we can
be friends! Thanks!
higuys
i am 32 bi now a days i feel more attracted to men.
i live in cairo,mohandeseen i am looking for anice gay to
give him the best time ( sharing our exper.) . please dont
hesitate to contact me.
i am sportif ilike to meet a real nice men
try to contact me at:
wshalakany@yahoo.com
dear roponny
try to contact me asap at my email
wshalakany@yahoo.com
or wshalakany@hotmail.com
hello
sstill waaaiting for the right person to give him
the best experiances
hi walid
i see you r very horny to fuck some body . i think ican
give you the best experiance you can have lets meet in a
chat room tonight to know each other
my name is agamia 64 yaras old gay from alex.iwant men to
fuck me.
Hi all gays, I am a phsycotherapist that is writing a
report on gays, if you would like any medical advise about
how not to be gay please send me an email and i will be
most happyu to help you.
looking for name of hotel in cairo for 3/4 guys ( gay), we need good price and nice please. if you know any hotel friendly with gay please contact me. and if anyone want to offer them as guide for these guys, they are italian and very good looking. we need to organize this stay in cairo for a week, please help us and be honest.
ciao alez
HI
GUYS I DON'T BELIEVE IN HOMOSEXUALITY... IT IS NOT RIGHT..
BESIDES U R ARABS ... U HAVE TO HAVE MORE MORALS THAN THAT.
hi guys
i am a 30 year old australian guy passive(bottom) 5"9 tall
red/blonde hair and fair skin. I lived in cairo and
alexandria for a few years and really enjoyed myself and
met some great people. egypt will always be close to my
heart. I would really like to meet some new friends as I
will be travelling to egypt soon.I know a lot about the gay
scene in egypt as i experienced so much of it. anyway
please contact me as i'd love to hear from someone
best wishes and maasalamma habibs
Hi ,
My name is Miro , I'm Egyptian , handsome , good body ,
mostached and bearded , white skin , black hair ,olive
eyes. If i'm your type and if you handsome , have a good
body and manly please mail me at my e-mail address shown
above.
Hi smooth boys,i'm Egyptian , mostached , very hairy , very
good manly body , top . My cook is 7.5 inch.(19 cm)
Hi everybody! I'm gonna be in Egypt soon and I want to meet some friends! I am 20 y/o and want to know all about the scene in Egypt. Please write!
Guys, I will be visiting Cairo for three weeks starting
December 14 and would like to meet nice, handsome manly man
while there. I am 40 y.o. very attractive gay while male.
Let's rock the world.
Email at address above if interested in meeting at
hi every body
i am Egyptian , 40 yo ,living in cairo , looking for
someone at propper age for friendship & plesure .
hi gays I am 35 years old I am searching for passive gays
in egypt,I live in cairo.
Hello Egyptian gays, This is Miro , I'm
Egyptian,handsome,good body,hairy chest , black hair ,
olive green eyes , white skin , and live in Cairo .
if i'm your tipe, and if you'r handsome ,have a good body
and manly please send me e-mail.
HI GAYS I JUST WONDERING , HOW COULD ANY GUY WHO IS 18 OR
19 YEARS OLD BE SURE THAT HE IS GAY . WHY DON'T HE GIVES
HIM SELF A CHANCE TO BE MORE SURE
IT TOOK ME 40 YEARS YO DISCOVER THAT I AM GAY
PLEASE ANSWER ME
THANKS
Hi KH#2000,
This is Miro, The answer is that in the hot
countries a boy is being adult , has a sperm in his
cock,earlier than the same in cold countries. The hotter
the country , the earlier being a man.
Ask your self : Why in African very hot contry the black
men always searching for a hole to fuck ? WHY ??????
Hello ! I am Mark from Poland. I'll be in Hurghada 24.12.
Can somebody write to me (cenzor@hotmail.com) few words
about gaylife in Egypt ? Thanx :).
Hey Guys
i am traveling to cairo in feb-1999 and i need info about gay scence
pleas email me i am in ethiopia
Hi,
I'm 35 yo, slim and smooth, European, white male...coming to Luxor for a week. I want to make contact with Egyptian boys...20-30 years old...let's exchange some idea's and have a nice time together
Paul
Hi guys,
How is life in Egypt? I will arrive in Hurghada on the 7th
of January 1999. Can anybody tell me anything about gaylife
in Hurghada?
I hope to meet some local people during my visit.
Please mail me. I am a 26year old Dutch, 1.79m, 63kg, blond,
blue eyes.
Yours,
Daan
hi there everyone, i'm mido 28,i'm 168cm tall, 64kgs, tanned,smooth chest, dark hair/eyes, moustache.
i'm looking for a life time relationship,i'm versatile.
any one from alexandria/egypt or allover the world from 18-30 y/o are wellcome. you must be discreet,masculine and loyal, passionate.
hope to hear from you soon.
Hello gays ,
Please don't use the first e-mail address of
me(miro27....) it's out of order, this one (obove) is ok.
Miro.
I am hot gay. I am 29 years, 167 cm, 68 kg
If anybody likes to talk to me. I am ready for ...!!
Gay lad in UK, seeks egyption boys in uk for fun and sex
to you gays in egypt,ciaro and alex.how can you call
yourself moslam and be gay hasn't the Q'oran tought you
anything .I spent time in egypt and never expected to find
the filth you find in other countries.
I thought very highly of your culture but I guess
I should think again.
you sound to me like a bitter jealous female, or a
hysterical closet case. Get out of this site if U dont like
what you see, and dont try to bring religion into it, you
pathetic little turd.
i sent u email to yr address. pls check
Dear Karim,
The hotmail service is unavailable now.
I cann't receive or send e-mails.
The service will be back hopefully next week.
If you can give me your tel no in this site, I may contact
you.
kisses
sex144
Dear Karim,
The hotmail service is unavailable now.
I cann't receive or send e-mails.
The service will be back hopefully next week.
If you can give me your tel no in this site, I may contact
you.
kisses
sex144
try to subscribe in other free mail serveices like yahoo
and let me know yr address by leaving me a mess here.
i will check every day
karim
hi I am 24 yrs egyptian living in cairo.
very horny , i am slim and tall, and i am very submissive.
i am ready to do anything u want.
Hi, I am a guy from Holland. I am 27 years old. I visited
your country for three times now. I realy like the Egyptian
people. I am looking for a Egyptian who lives in Holland, so
we can talk about Egypt. I am also learning Arabic, but it
is very difficult if you are not in Egypt to learn it.
I hope you will send me an e-mail.
Looking forward to your reply,
Marcel
i think i'm the only black gay in alex,looking for gays in
alex,so drop me a line.
Hi Guys,
I'm a handsome American living in Cairo and would love to
get into the scene and meet someone. Why don't you write
and we willcorrespond a bit and then hopefully meet to talk
about the first thing that cums up.
sheepish_2000@hotmail.com
Hallo, IÆm very surprised to read the comments of the
Egyptian gay-men, it is a big problem to discuss this theme
in Egypt or in the Inter-net, as I think it is not a crime
to be a gay, but u must try to solve this problem with good
educated-religious people not with anyone, but when we talk
about the homosexuality, I think we must differentiate
between the sexual contacts and the only tendencies or the
pure feelings or the real love between two men, the anal
sex is forbidden in Islam, it is very clear in Koran.
IÆve read some interesting comments in the queer jihad home
page, maybe it could help you people to get the right
path. I will send the comment later. Thanks a lot.
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Tu, 16 Apr 1998 17:47:49 +0800
Dear Sulayman X,
I am a gay too, and to the best of my knowledge and
ability, I will
follow all the Islamic teachings wholeheartedly. Frankly
speaking, I am
really concern with all the dilemmas, we the gays are
facing. I also
symphatise with you, being cornered by surmount criticisms
looted against
you. Just like you, being a gay is not my choice.
What I can remember is that, when I was small I like to
play cooking,
growing flowers and stitching. I gave up these hobbies at
the age of 13
when I went to a boarding school. I began to like good-
looking male
seniors at that age. Till now I do not know how this
feeling get into
me. I was born in the family of eight - 5 boys and 3 girls.
I am the
middle one. I am the only gay in the family and till now
nobody knows
that I am gay. I look like any other straight men, with 10%
softness.
Being gay is a big taboo in my culture and I am glad that I
manage to
get away with the hostility against gay. I am 34 years old
and my mother
has been asking me when I will get married. My answer is
that "I am
busy". All my brothers and sisters were married.
I do know that homosexuality is a sin in Islam. So far
there is no two
ways about it. I am accepting it despite pain in my soul. I
have never
engaged in any form of sexual activities and all my life I
have been
confined to celibacy.
I do know that this world is a prison for Muslims, what
more for gay
people. And I do know that Allah knows what is best for me.
Allah tests
us in many ways. Some are being tested with poverty,
wealth, and blind; and
like us being gay. Allah wants to see us, despite being
gay, are we
following His commandments or not. If we are the obedient
servants of
Allah, He will shower us with bounties in the haven.
I do know that sex, to love and to be loved are basic
rights for a human
being; but some other people such as the poor in other
parts of the
world are also being deprived of modest living - no proper
food,
clothing and housing. I am sure that Allah will compensate
me for
whatever sacrifice I undertaking just to be an obedient
servant of
Allah. I know that the state I am now needs a lot of iman
and thus, I
joined Tabligi Jamaat in my country. In the Jamaat, we
learn about the
sunnah and basic rituals of Islam. We visited our Muslim
friends and
talk about life in the hereafter. Through this effort, my
iman has been
rejunevating. Iman is a shield for me. The group members
have never
teased, nor discriminating me. Whenever I am with the group
I feel so
secured from the worldly temptations. I never missed my
daily prayers
and always make an effort to wake up in the middle of the
night. I will
cry before Allah, asking for his forgiveness and blessings.
Now I am
feeling the tranquility in life.
I believe that you are a western gay and in the western
world, everyone
stands for his/her individual rights without realizing the
limit to it.
To the best of my knowledge, the companions of Prophet
Mohamed did not
champion for their rights. Instead, they gave away their
rights to
others. The beauty in Islam, we Muslims must learn how to
give away our
rights, not standing for our rights. Do not worry for being
discriminated because Allah is always with the believers.
My advice to you, Sulayman X, discusses your problems with
Muslim
scholars. There are people who will listen to your agony.
Do not say
something that is against Islam. Just like the companions
of the prophet
"they listen and obey". Some of the things in Islam have no
reason and
cannot be rationalized. Just obey. Allah loves you,
Sulayman X.
From: Ahmad
Subject: A message for your visitors
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
Sulayman, this is a message addressing your visitors. It's
long but I would be very grateful if you would post it.
Assalaamu-alaikum all.
I am a Muslim. I believe in the Oneness of Allaah. I
prostrate humbly before Him five times a day as He
commanded me to. I observe fast during Ramadaan as He
commanded me to. I give of my humble earnings as Zakaat to
the less fortunate as He commanded me to. Inshaa-Allaah, I
intend to perform Hajj one day as He commanded me to. I
believe in the Angels, the Revealed Books, the Prophets and
the Day of Reckoning. I do not consume alcohol, eat haraam
food, accept interest, gamble or fornicate. I do not smoke,
take drugs or do anything harmful to my health. I
constantly seek knowledge. I make a conscious effort not to
lie or backbite. I remember Allaah at all times and praise
Him and thank Him several times a day for His endless
bounties. I am soft-hearted, gentle and kind by nature and
I thank Allaah for giving me these qualities. I make du'ah
constantly for the weak, the poor, the old, the disabled,
the oppressed and the dispossessed. I invariably shed tears
in Sajdah as I feel closest to my beloved Lord in that most
humble of positions. Islaam is my life and I try to be a
good Muslim. Without Allaah, I am nothing.
I am gay. I have always been gay. I have been attracted to
boys ever since I can remember. I was too young to reflect
on this matter and say to myself: "Hmmm, should I be
attracted to boys or girls? Hey, why don't I give boys a
chance and see how I like it?" I didn't even know what
"gay" was. At that time, I still innocently assumed that I
would one day have a wife and kids when I grew up. However,
before the vague stirrings of adolescence even began to
awaken my sexuality, I already knew that girls held no
attraction for me. I never made a conscious choice. I just
knew. I thought it was a phase. It would pass as I grew
older. Instead it grew stronger. Allaah is my witness. It
was as if the choice had already been made for me. It was
as if I was fulfilling some pre-ordained plan. Acting out
some pre-ordained role.
Allaah teaches us to have 'sabr' - forbearance and patience
in times of crisis. He also teaches us that He never gives
us a burden too heavy for us to bear. My homosexuality is
the cross I am to bear, one that I have not always borne
well - a burden that has taken me to the brink of suicide
on three occasions. To my brothers and sisters out there
who are quick to condemn me, please tell me: why would I
choose such a life of misery? Can you even begin to
understand the misery attached to this way of life for some
of us? Can you begin to understand the loneliness of the
homosexual condemned by the very faith he would die for?
Can you understand the despair, pain and suffering of
falling desperately in love with a non-gay knowing that he
would despise you if he knew how you felt? Do you know how
it feels to later lose the object of your love when he
finds out you are gay? Do you know how it feels? Do you? Do
you know what it's like to go to bed every night aching for
the love of someone who despises you? Aching just to see
his face, to hear his voice? Do you know what it's like to
wake up disappointed that you didn't die in your sleep and
to dread facing another day of heartache and emptiness? Do
you know what it's like to have a nervous breakdown, shake
uncontrollably and cry in public because life seems so
hopeless? Can you ever begin to understand the depth of
despair that would lead someone to take his own life? And
can you imagine what it's like to suffer all this silently,
with no advice or human comfort coming your way because you
are hiding a secret so shameful, you'd rather mentally and
emotionally bleed to death? Chances are you don't. And you
presume to judge me?
Don't you know the statistics among the gay community for
teenage suicide? Why suicide? Why don't gays simply choose
to revert to heterosexuality? Hell, if we chose to become
gay, then we can JUST AS EASILY choose not to be, right? So
why suicide then? Think! Does someone with suicidal
tendencies sound like someone who feels he has a choice?
When death is the only way we see to end our suffering,
where is this choice you speak of? If we could easily and
willingly revert to a sex life without prejudice, a life of
happiness, companionship and acceptance, why would we
choose death over it or remain with the unhappiness
homosexuality offers? These are questions for the wise
among you to ponder. Had it not been for my faith in
Islaam, I would be dead already. And yet, death is more
preferable to me than forsaking Allaah. So don't tell me
I'm not Muslim!
But some of you will say "die, scum, and good riddance".
But what if it were someone YOU love? A brother, a son, a
niece? Couldn't happen? Think again! Would you be so quick
to condemn, or would you then take the time to consider
what I've said? It's extremely important that you realize
that that shy, withdrawn teenager in your family may
actually be struggling with his or her homosexuality. Open
your eyes. You may unwittingly be alienating a loved one to
the point of desperation and suicide. Being Muslim does NOT
exclude being gay. I am both. I know. Are you so naive or
short-sighted as to think that just growing up in a Muslim
household is enough to prevent a child from being gay? My
parents are the two most honest, decent Muslims I know. Are
they to take the blame for me? I know personally of two
handsome young teenaged boys from strong Muslim backgrounds
who are struggling to accept the fact that they are gay.
There are no shortage of young ladies after them but
females simply don't interest them. And their guilt is
weighing heavily on their young shoulders. They are still
children and already so desperately unhappy and lonely. You
would toss them to the wolves, but my heart breaks for
them, for I know what their life will be like. For God's
sake, my Muslim brothers and sisters, look around you for
the signs. Children need to know that they are valuable,
useful human beings regardless of their sexual orientation.
Take their self esteem away from them and, like me, they
will look for a quick and permanent exit from this world.
They may not have the faith in Allaah as I do. Do you want
their death on your conscience?
You say there is no such thing as a gay Muslim.
Homosexuality is condemned in Islaam. The two terms are
mutually exclusive, you say. But also condemned in Islaam
are alcohol, interest, eating haram food, gambling,
hypocrisy and fornication. Logically then there is no such
thing as a Muslim alcohol drinker, Muslim haraam food
eater, Muslim interest taker, Muslim gambler, Muslim
hypocrite or Muslim fornicator. The terms should all be
just as mutually exclusive. How the Islamic world would
shrink to shrug off such people! And I'm not even including
the wife abusers (oh, so rampant in the Islamic world,
through no fault of Islaam, but through age-old cultural
practices of male-centred societies!). And what about those
who don't pray, fast, give Zakaat, love, remember or fear
Allaah? Not to mention those of you who wrote brother
Sulayman X with profusively abusive and gratuitously
obscene language and death threats. How ironic that in your
haste to "defend" Islaam, you are instead ridiculing it in
the eyes of the world by your atrocious behaviour and foul
language totally unbecoming of true Muslims! How self-
righteous and indignant you are, my noble brothers and
sisters! Maa-shaa-Allaah, you must be perfect Muslims for
your Islamic sensibilities to be so hurt! A great prophet
once said: "Let he who has not sinned cast the first
stone." Which of you does not engage in any of the above
atrocities? You can lie to me, but Alaah is a witness to
what is in your heart. You feel free to engage in un-
Islamic acts, but the fact alone that you have heterosexual
feelings - THIS ONE FACT ALONE - makes you a better Muslim
and human being than me? Allaah is the best Judge.
I am Muslim. I am gay. These are two immutable facts. I
look at it as my test from Allaah. Only He knows why I am
this way. I do not profess my gayness with any degree of
pride whatsoever. I do not encourage it nor do I propagate
it. I accept it. It has brought me nothing but misery
because of one-sided love and the intense loneliness and
heartache that results. I don't want to be gay. But I
simply am in my heart and in my soul. It is all I know. Why
that is so, only Allaah knows. I do not question His
Wisdom, only pray for peace of mind and happiness, things
that others take for granted but which continue to elude my
frenzied grasp. But if by writing this, I can help others
like me who need comfort and understanding, al-
hamdulillaah.
Loneliness and guilt can lead to desperate self-
destruction. May Allaah continue to save me and others like
me from suicide and give us strength to carry on amid those
who would seek to condemn us for something we have no
control over. No human being has the power nor the right to
judge me or say otherwise. To tell me simply to change is
to be ignorant of the homosexual psyche. You may attack my
gayness with all the ignorance and intolerance you can
summon up, but do not be so presumptuous as to attack my
Islaam. Allaah is MY judge. And to say that He would
condemn me for feelings I cannot control, is to impute a
cruelty and intolerance that does not, and cannot, exist in
the Allaah that I love with all my heart. For Allaah is
µarhamar-raahemeen' - the Most Merciful of those who show
mercy. May He bring comfort to those of us that desperately
seek it. Aameen.
I leave you with a poignant quote from Sulayman X. If there
is any vestige of compassion, love or mercy in your heart,
try to understand what our brother is saying:
"If wanting the companionship of other homosexuals is my
only crime, then I will gladly pay the price. Better to be
punished for wanting to love than giving in to hate. If
wanting to create a compassionate and pragmatic response to
homosexuality among the Muslim community is my only crime,
then go ahead and sentence me. Better to be punished for
trying to build bridges rather than tearing them down. If
telling the truth is a crime, then so be it. I would rather
be punished for being honest about myself than be accepted
because of hypocrisy."
PS: Sulayman, my brother, in your struggle, know that you
are not alone. If it is your intention to sensitize and
educate the Muslim community in a gentle and non-
confrontational way, then I am on your side. But especially
if it is to provide some vestige of hope to trapped and
marginalized Muslim gays, hope for a place where they can
finally find acceptance, where they are among kindred
spirits who understand and can help assuage the pains of
loneliness and guilt associated with being both gay and
Muslim - if such is your intention, then I commend you
highly and wish you success. Inshaa-Allaah you may well
save a few lives along the way. And for that, may Allaah
reward you. I am impressed by your courage and your
remarkable dignity and forbearance in the face of such
tremendous verbal bile spewed by irate Muslims whose very
sense of Islamic self-importance and nobleness your honesty
has apparently insulted. Most of all, brother, I am
impressed by your perspicacity and God-given eloquence.
These will prove to be valuable tools in your continuing
struggle against ignorance and narrow-mindedness. Inshaa-
Allah.
Was-salaam
Subject: Shukran ya akhee
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:09:40 -0400
Asalaamo Alaykum!
Bismillah:
Dear Suleyman,
Thank you for this site ya akhee, well done! May Allah(swt)
bless you for your efforts, and may we all be guided to the
faith,
wisdom, and light that is Allah(swt).
your brother in Islam, and a beggar of grace,
Abd al-Qadir
Subject: Encouragement
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 12:33:59 -0400
To: gaymuslims@geocities.com
Dear Friends:
The long letter on your Webster from Abdurrahan was one of
the most touching
I have ever read. So much so that I must respond with
encouragement for
your cause. I hope you will take the time to read this
letter.
I am not gay, but over the years I have had many gay
friends, both male and
female, and still have good gay friends today. As a
straight white male I am
writing these words of encouragement so you will know that
not all of us are
as stupid as some of us!
1. My gay friends have been among the best friends I have
ever had. They
have always been the epitome of courtesy, kindness and
friendship. I have never
seen hate and bigotry spew forth from gays like I have seen
hate and bigotry spew
forth from straight, especially Christians and Muslims.
2. Gays are not the least bit unnatural; anyone who thinks
so is just plain
ignorant. Gays have existed in all parts of the world in
all the annals of
history. Italy, India, Spain, Australia, China, Finland,
Iceland, Japan, Argentina, North
America and England, Cuba, Finland, Hawaii, Norway, Peru,
Thailand, Mexico and
Africa. In every part of the planet gays have been present
since recorded
history, and in every culture, religion and society that
has ever been. (And major
contributors to benefit of mankind I might add)
What is "natural"? That which occurs in nature is natural,
that's
what. And homosexuality occurs in nature not only in
humans, but in many, many
species of the animal kingdom too. Biologists and
scientists have known this for many
years, but the ignorant among us still don't have a clue.
They are to busy learning
bigotry from ancient books to learn anything of value.
3. There is a large, and growing, amount of scientific
evidence for the
genetic basis of homosexuality. In males, the Xq28 region
of chromosomes is a case in
point.
Ignorant people don't know this either; that's why they're
ignorant.
Around the world, men and women of science are working day
and night to
discover the mysteries of ourselves and the universe around
us, in every field
from astronomy, to biology to zoology. They are knowledge
seekers, they are truth
seekers. The Human Genome project is an example. For over
10 years millions of
people all around the globe have participated in one of the
grandest experiments of
all time, mapping the human genome so that we may better
know, and understand,
ourselves. In time, they will succeed.
The people who spew hate at you are ignorant of all this.
We should
pity them their ignorance.
4. Religions- I see hate spew forth from Christians towards
gays like a
fountainhead. I see hate spew forth from Moslems towards
gays like a fountainhead.
They have books that tell them so.
Do these books say that homosexuality is unnatural (when it
isn't)? Do
these books say the earth is flat (when it isn't)? Do books
that say such things
sound divinely inspired to you? They don't to me. If I see
a book that says ignorant
things that were believed in primitive times, I would
conclude that it was written by
ignorant men who lived in primitive times. Is that not
logical?
Did these books tell us about the widespread homosexuality
in the animal
kingdom? If the Being that inspired these books didn't like
homosexuality, why
did It create it in the animal kingdom?
Did these books tell us that all human embryos start out as
females? And
that with chemicals like androgens some of the female
embryos are converted to
male embryos? And that an over- or under-supply of
androgens can flub things
up so that babies are born with the genitals of both sexes?
(Called hermaphrodites)
If the Being doesn't like the sexes getting mixed up, why
would It create millions of
babies born each year with genitals of both sexes?
Has anything caused more pain, suffering, torture, murder,
crusades,
wars, inquisitions hatred, discrimination, bigotry and
division among mankind than
religions have? If so I'd like to know what it is.
5. Be proud, not ashamed. Gays have nothing to be ashamed
of, and
everything to be proud of. Gays are just as natural and as
left-handed people. (Did
you know that in every study that has been done, gays have
consistently tested with
higher IQ's than the general population?)
6. Little by little we will eliminate ignorance and
superstition from the
world. It won't happen next week or even in the next few
decades, but eventually
it will occur.
Remember that one religion, following it's book, imprisoned
one famous
man for life, and burned another famous man alive at the
stake for saying that the
earth revolved around the sun. And that religion refused to
admit its error for over
300 years. Ignorance, bigotry and superstitions die slowly.
I have 2 daughters and told them from childhood that gays
are no different
in life than people who are left-handed or have red hair. I
wanted each of
them to be tolerant of others in life, and to know that
should they be gay I
would love them no differently. My older is 19 and
apparently straight, and my younger daughter is just now
going through puberty.
I can't imagine many things more horrible than a child
discovering their
sexuality they didn't choose, and fearing or not having the
love of their
parents for it . That fear and pain must be absolutely
horrible, and is no
less than unbelievable cruelty. In my opinion, any religion
that would
promote such an abomination upon a child is a purveyor of
cruelty and evil,
not love.
I wish you all the best, and I will continue to do whatever
I can to
eliminate the ignorance and bigotry against gays.
Feel free to post this letter on your website.
If any of you hate-spewers out there would like to send me
some hate mail,
please do.
I love to see how you can't even spell simple words. You
are ignorant.
Sincerely yours,
Doug
Hi there..
My name is Eyad,I'm Syrian living in Montreal,my friend and
me are coming to Cairo on the 11th of march,we really wanna
have a lot of fun , but we have no idea where to stay,where
to go,and how is the gaylife in Cairo.We also would like to
meet nice friends.Please if you can provide us some
informations we'll be thankfull.
Me,I'm attached but my friend is single 28yrs and would like
to meet a good looking Egyptian young top guy,please e-mail
us..
Sorry,I said we're coming the 11th of march,it's the 11th of
April,and we gonna stay for 2 weeks,looking to hear from you
guys....
Hi!
I'm coming to Hurghada 30. March. I come from Norway and
are 34 year young! Anyone knows how Gays life are in
Hurghada? Please e-mail me!
RamsesII
hi, i am in cairo, 22 yr old, looking for friends and maybe
if cute sex, must be under 25, not overweight ...
i am very discreet and so u must be too
let me know ASAP
one can't helping thinking every egiptian is gay! any straight guy out there?
I am Muslim , 42 years of age,
Wish to have any Egyptian Gay Men or Arabian
Gay men too, that coming to visit Malaysia,
Please do contacted me and also I love to see
or meet them, shaering and having a great times
together as well,Please?.
You all never regreted as well, I love Arabian Gay
men, very hairy, beard and moustach too, that what
i really like and love most.
Please do Call me at this Phone Nos. (Offie) 082-821208
(Home) -082-821336.
Love to hear from you all out there!.
Love and Kisses too.
Ali.
I TRAVEL TO EGYPT TWICE A YEAR AND FIND THE GUYS IN CAIRO EXTREMELY CUTE. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY GAY EXPERIENCE IN CAIRO BUT I WOULD LOVE TO CUDDLE AND KISS AND... AN EGYPTIAN BOY.
I AM 28 YEARS OLD FROM INDIA , SLIM, CLEAN SHAVEN , 5 FT 7 " TALL AND WEIGH ABOUT 60 KGS.
I WILL BE TRAVELLING TO CAIRO SOON ANDI AM LOOKING FOR A CUTE , SMOOTH , CLEAN SHAVEN EGYPTIAN .
PLEASE DO RESPOND
LOVE
ASH
i'm egyptian from cairo but now i'm in US .I'M 30 LOOKING FOR TOP GAY Egyptian has the following characters dark skin heavy mostache hairy muscled body ,big dick,hairy balls and smoker i prefer him in US but if not that's ok .I'm good looking white ,mostache dark hairs and eyes .also i don't like penetration also i'm expert about gay life so if anyone wanna ask me go on
TO KH#2000 WHERE R U MAN REALLY I NEED U
Hallo Hesham, u didn't mention your E-mail address to
contact you.
Hallo Miro, I know u very well.
you are a son of a bitch gays who are looking for big dicks
intering your asses
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╩╤▀╩..."
i hope to meet guys(gAys),,
if u really interested ,, contact me soon
okay, rami
i'm waiting !!!!!!!!!
I got a nasty girlfriend, and i have just realised i am gay.
Please help.I think i love my brother.
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Salam all...
This is an Egyptian gay guy who lived in Egypt
most of his life and now living in the US...
i stumbled on this homepage while i was doing some
research..
This is mainly a reply for a specific e-mail that
mentioned that homosexuality is forbidden and God
created Adam and Steve, No gays in Egypt bla bla
bla bla...
for that person.. let's break down your e-mail
and see what you wrote..Regarding Homosexuality
in Islam .. you said that homosexuality is forbidden..
you really don't know the difference between HOMOSEXUALITY
and PRACTICING HOMOSEXUALITY... Islam recognizes the
fact that there are some people who are born with
such a dilema.. Islam recognizes the "homosexual"
AND ISLAM GIVES THEM SOME RIGHTS.. and PRACTICING
HOMOSEXUALITY is NOT NOT NOT NOT one of them... there
is nothing wrong being homosexual and muslim..what
is wrond is PRACTICING it.. like foolin around with
other men.. it is the behavior that is forbidden not
the BEING. now here is the difference... IBN TAYMIA..
in case you don't know him is a muslim scholar and he
never got married because he had some homosexual
tendencies. So please when you refer to homosexuality
and its status in Islam, make sure you talk about
PRACTICING homosexuality..
Second, AIDS. you said that AIDS was originated by
homosexuals.. that's a BIIIIIIIIG BULLSHIT..execuse
my French.. in the late 1950's The United States'
Legistlation
came up with the idea of germ warfare to target specific
segment of the American population.. which are basically
Gays
and Blacks.. so they developed AIDS as part of that
germ warfare and they did target that segment. Stupid
enough, they didn't know that some people are bisexuals.
So the disease started to spread everywhere and became
out of control..The solution for that disease was
excise of Labotemy or part of it in the brain. the part
that has everything to do with sex.. so it is not
the gay people who spread AIDS, it's the American
Government.
Thrid, you mentioned that homosexuality is a disease. i
would
to draw your kind attention to the fact that (PDR)
or the (Physicians Desk Reference) classified homosexuality
as a PSYCHOLOGICAL DISEASE.. NOT EVEN BIOLOGICAL.. that
was till the the 1960's after that they AGREED that it is
NOT
A DISEASE.. so please update your records.. it's been
almost
40 years since the physicians agreed it is not a disease..
where were you ?...
Last but not least, you said that as far as you are
concerened
there are no Gays in Egypt. DO YOU REALLY LIVE IN EGYPT ??
IN CAIRO IN PARTICULAR ??? hell.. last november there was
a gay cruise from Luxor to Aswan AND THERE WERE SOME
GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS ABORAD.. what does that tell you ?????
there is a HUGE gay community in Egypt, but you just don't
know where
and i won't mention names cuz i'm sure they don't wanna
deal with
some hostile thoughts...
al salam alaikom :
..please all don't believe any word from those telling that
islam allows some homosexual relations...if this is a right
thing...so why don't every one go to a public place and
shout : i am a gay...
wake up...and get back from that way of
[alshaitan]....before you lose every thing...and remember
that one day you will be back in the dust...to face the
god...think what will you say then...
obey the god..not only for fear of [gahanam]...but because
he is the god...
and don't say for anything : that is a small sin...but
think of how great is the god that you don't obey...
wa alsalam alaikom wa rahmat allah wa barakatoh...
who r u Totoforever ? What do u mean by knowing me very
well ?
Hi everybody , I tahnk everbody who send me letters before
. when I hand my first add , I got some nice letters . I
was lonely but few mothes ago I met my big love . I felt
that I want to say thank you for everybody who gave me good
time and hot ........x
I still want to meet nice people for friendship . I prefer
to be in Alexandria
Hi everybody , I tahnk everbody who send me letters before
. when I hand my first add , I got some nice letters . I
was lonely but few mothes ago I met my big love . I felt
that I want to say thank you for everybody who gave me good
time and hot ........x
I still want to meet nice people for friendship . I prefer
to be in Alexandria
Hi everybody , I tahnk everbody who send me letters before
. when I hand my first add , I got some nice letters . I
was lonely but few mothes ago I met my big love . I felt
that I want to say thank you for everybody who gave me good
time and hot ........x
I still want to meet nice people for friendship . I prefer
to be in Alexandria