AMERICAN

This topic was created by Sid
[Tue 11 May, 12:25 Tasmanian Standard Time]

So is this really gonna be a bad thing folks? No jokes
please - I've heard enough of them on this page. Remember,
even if I love my country, I am traveling outside it because
I want to expand my mind. I'm going all over Europe this
summer - should I expect a lot of animosity? Should I try
to hide the fact that I'm American - some guidebooks I've
read recommend this. Do I really have to leave my jeans and
baseball cap home?

[There are 18 posts - the latest was added on Wed 19 May, 13:47]

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  1. Just go Added by: Bron
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 12:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You already have the right attitude and remember there are
    obnoxious people from every country - it isn't solely
    Americans. I've travelled with heaps of really nice
    Americans.
    And take the jeans and baseball cap - don't worry about it,
    just have a great time. If you were going to a poor
    country, then I think it's best to leave brand names at home.
    But there's nothing wrong with wearing clothes that reflect
    you!



  2. a thought Added by: Mike
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 13:45 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You should try to travel with a desire to learn from others
    and with an open mind. People will judge you by your
    character not by the cut of your pants or the country from
    which you come. To do otherwise is the antithesis of what
    makes the United States work in spite of its enormous
    social challenges. Frankly, I am proud to be an American
    and I offer not apologies, but I am also proud to be a
    member of the world community which we all are a part of.
    Have a great trip and let your travels open your world,
    mike at www.footloosetravel.com



  3. are you a jerk? Added by: tim
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 16:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    As an American I've never had problems anywhere I've
    travelled, it's often been an asset, even in places you
    wouldn't expect it - (eg Syria). No matter where you go in
    the world if you respect local customs (though Europe is
    not very different than the US in almost all ways) and are
    not a obnoxious idiot you'll be fine. If you do act like an
    asshole people will dislike you (and rightfully so) no
    matter where you are from.
    On another matter, leave the jeans home because they are
    heavy and take forever to dry. Casual cotton pants are the
    way to go.
    Enjoy your trip.



  4. Some hints Added by: Jenny
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 19:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I agree that the fact you are asking the question means you
    are aware enough not to be obnoxious. However, as a
    non-american can I offer a couple of gentle hints? The thing
    that makes americans stand out in europe is that they are
    generally louder than the locals. You probably don't even
    realise it, because it's normal back home. So try to speak
    a little quieter in public places. Another thing is asking
    personal questions, which is usually not done to new people
    you might meet in europe - don't ask such things as age or
    religion or income unless the other person brings it up.
    Don't presume people speak English, and Never shout at
    someone who doesn't understand you.
    On the other hand, why should you hide where you come from,
    unless you are planning a trip to Serbia or nearby? Even
    then, you have the opportunity to give a personal viewpoint
    and make the point that every person in a country doesn't
    necessarily agree with every government policy.
    What I'm saying is watch how people behave in groups and
    public places in countries you visit, never mentally
    condemn anything because its different from back home, and
    try to fit in a little with the local etiquette.



  5. American living in Europe Added by: Heidi (treehousehotel@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 22:25 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi Sid!
    Don't let anyone intimidate you. There are so many
    American travellers in Europe in summer, you are sure to
    blend right in, especially in the larger cities.
    I run a small hostel called the Treehouse Backpacker Hotel
    in a small Austrian village in the Alps. My guests (mostly
    Australian, American, Canadian) stand out, but only because
    they are English speaking. Our teenagers here in Gruenau
    dress American, (Levi's and such) so why shouldn't you? I
    also find that the locals that vistit our bar are EXTREMELY
    loud. They sit right next to each other a shout even when
    there is no music playing!
    Just relax and enjoy yourself and you will have a great
    trip. I've lived in Austria for over 6 years now and
    travelled heaps and never had a problem. If you would like
    more information just email me, or call 43 7616 8499.
    All the best!
    Sincerely, Heidi



  6. An idea... Added by: Mike
    [Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 0:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You could do what many Canadians do, and put a little
    Canadian flag on your pack... it supposedly works!
    mike



  7. Maple leaf rag Added by: Nausikaa
    [Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 5:46 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Forget putting the Canadian flag on your stuff, unless by
    American, you mean a North American from Toronto. When
    people find you're really from the US, they'll think you're
    an idiot. Listen to the advice about LOWERING YOUR VOICE.
    It's embarrassing for me and other Americans to hear an
    obviously American voice booming across a restaurant, when
    everyone else is talking quietly. Don't try to pass
    yourself off as a local, but do try to blend in somewhat.
    Wearing active sportswear in a nice restaurant, for
    instance, may be considered insulting. Do some research
    before you take the trip. If you learn at least the polite
    phrases in the languages of the places you'll be visiting,
    it really breaks the ice. Finally, don't worry about this
    too much. I've met very few Europeans who would be rude to
    an American who was being polite to them. (And some of
    those would be rude to anyone!) Be polite, expect
    politeness in others, and you'll have a great trip.



  8. don't worry . . . Added by: canuck-girl
    [Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 6:25 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I agreet with Tim - if you aren't an bastard, then you have
    nothing to worry about. Don't feel that you have to conform
    to what locals wear - if you feel comfortable in jeans & a
    baseball cap, then go for it! The only time I've ever had
    problems with American travelers is when they're
    ethnocentric & obnoxious. So, just keep an open mind
    andhave a great trip!



  9. have fun Added by: Ozzie Bird
    [Timestamp: Wed 12 May, 12:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Do your research as you are obviously trying to do and go
    and watch what others do and try to blend in.
    I have travelled to America and other places and find
    Americans to be fine but like any race there are some you
    are not proud of at any time. We met some very rude
    ignorant people from Europe on our last trip and I am sure
    if you treat people as you would like to be treated you
    will benefit from your travels......enjoy yourself and get
    addicted like me!



  10. curious Added by: Tim
    [Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 1:34 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hey Sid, What crappy guidebook recommended you pretend not
    to be American?



  11. be nice Added by: anna (DrinkwaterAC@cardiff.ac.uk)
    [Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 3:12 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    if you're a nice person hunny then it is you're duty to go
    forth and break down those stereotypes, there are loud
    people in every country.



  12. More tips Added by: Anne (bm326@scn.org)
    [Timestamp: Thu 13 May, 7:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    The only things I would add are:
    1. Remember that other countries have different ideas of
    what "customer service" means, if it's in place at all. Try
    not to expect service providers (restaurants, retail
    stores, transportation) to initiate (or even to follow up)
    as much as they do here, leave that deeply ingrained "The
    customer is always right" consumer mindset at home,
    act patient (i.e., not too demanding), and you should be
    okay.
    2. If at all possible, try to greet people in their language
    first. It might be a good idea to learn how to say, "Do you
    speak English" in the language of each country you will be
    visiting. If you are sincere, open, and polite, most people
    will respond in kind.



  13. as long as... Added by: jezebel
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 1:24 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    everything that they've said is true - you will never enjoy
    yourself if you are feeling selfconscious all the way, and
    if you are not rude and unpleasant to people then u will no
    problem at all. BUT im a londoner, and the most annoying
    thing i have ever seen was on a tv program following groups
    of tourists in the city. this american teenage girl had
    been told by some ignorant s**t that in england people eat
    chipmonk and squirrel (!! - i do not lie!), and so she
    brought all her own food for the holiday. she was so
    stoopid and condescending about everything - complaining
    that stonehenge wasn't near the sea and moaning that the
    roman statues in bath were just boring lumps of rock. it
    is attitudes like that which are likely to create
    animosity, not nationality... ~ j



  14. COURAGE! Added by: Hanna
    [Timestamp: Mon 17 May, 17:20 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    YES you will be treatened as a complete idiot.Trying to
    correct that is VERY hard.
    NO you can┤t hide where you come from, you can only try
    living with it.
    DO NOT SHOUT.Try to behave.
    PLEASE try to get rid of the idea that the world is America
    and the rest of it is your backyard.
    STUDY some history of Europe before you come here to tell how
    the thigs should be.
    I┤ve been travelling around the world but, do to my
    experiences, I still haven┤t been manage to think differently
    of you guys.SORRY. Maybe YOU can make the revolution in my
    small head.
    We are very different people but there is a small change of
    getting along pretty well...



  15. We don't even always sew the flag on our pack Added by: A Canadian
    [Timestamp: Tue 18 May, 9:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Don't make the mistake of sewing a maple leaf on your pack.
    I'm a Canadian but I'd never do that. Sure it would mark me
    as "not American" but it also marks you as a tourist and
    makes it impossible to blend in. I met up with Americans
    and travelled with them in England and Ireland and had a
    blast... while some American tourists give the country a bad
    name there's a lot of great American tourists (mostly older
    than 18) who do you guys proud so don't sweat it too much.
    About being loud... it is true that Americans are often
    loader which makes you stand out but other nationalities,
    like the Germans, are just as load so don't take it as an
    America-bashing thing... the rest of us are just a bit mroe
    timid.



  16. yankees Added by: ami
    [Timestamp: Wed 19 May, 2:39 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    as long as you leave your cap and sandals at home you should
    be fine



  17. American in UK Added by: Kim (kim_q_miller@yahoo.com)
    [Timestamp: Wed 19 May, 8:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I saw that chipmunk & squirrel show and that girl was an
    embarrassment to the nation. We wore our "American" clothes
    in France and the French thought we were English (I guess
    b/c we're not loud people?). The English brats who stayed
    in the room next door were the most rude crowd I've ever
    encountered and I found it ironic with the English are
    polite and Americans are obnoxious stereotypes. It's kind
    of sad in a way that everyone is starting to look the same
    to me, all wearing the same kinds of clothes, but perhaps
    this is in part due to us, the travelers. From what I've
    learning living here over the pond, be proud to be an
    American b/c it's something very special -- but of course
    people are usually proud of where they come from so respect
    that and them and let's all just be friends. Cheers!



  18. Why hide Added by: Jen
    [Timestamp: Wed 19 May, 13:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Just make sure that when you meet Aussies you don't ask us
    if we have hot or cold running water in Australia - true I
    was asked this by an American in London 2 years ago. By
    the way - if you go to Venice - don't ask if the streets
    were there before they flooded it. Again another
    Americanism. I couldn't quite work out if they were serious
    or not. And one last thing - enjoy yourself, be open to
    new experiences and try and speak the language of whatever
    country you are in even if it is just to say please and
    thank you.




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