Lonely Planet Guides are best, but..

This topic was created by Mike (info@footloosetravel.com)
[Tue 9 Feb, 2:24 Tasmanian Standard Time]

Although I do feel Lonely Planet guides are the best
overall, a couple of points need to be made. Why does
Lonely Planet not include Prague in the Western European
edition? OK, I know Prague is defined as in Eastern Europe
(although I'm not sure who make this decision), but for
many travelers, this city is a must. To get around this
problem, I suggest you get the Western European edition and
Xerox the Prague section from a book in your friendly
library. Another point, why is Italian not included in the
Western European phrasebook? I suppose you could buy two
books, but I'm cheap. Another point about guidebooks, don't
be fooled by the year on the book. Let's Go for example
pushes its books out quickly (for marketing reasons). Have
you ever compared 1998 to 1999? Not much difference. I have
tried accomodations or restaurant suggestions through such
books and on occasion (too many for me) the establishement
had been closed for 5 years or more. After 10 years of
pounding the pavement in Europe, Lonely Planet gets my vote
for the best researched guidebook on the market. Think
about it, it is just not possible to update all the
information in a guidebook consisting of 900 plus pages in
one year. I am not saying Let's Go is not a good book. I do
like the way it is organized (especially the country
specific books), but from my experience, Lonely Planet does
it right. What do you think?

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  1. Spot on Added by: elodie
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 3:02 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    The LP guide has my vote! There is also another guide book (french called le guide du routard) which 'updates' its information every year, but i can't believe that's true.
    In guatemala we were told by a french local working for the french alliance that this magazine's researchers had come to see her for a couple of hours, and then had continued their way. Explain to me how they could update their info??!
    Just one change i'd like to see in the LP guide : to see more descriptions concerning places, ie lovely or nice, instead of the non-commital advice they give.
    But carry on LP!



  2. DefinitelyLP Added by: Kit (kwanderlust@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 3:45 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    The only thing I like about Let's Go are its prices for
    buses/trains and its information regarding travel time
    between places. Other than that, it sucks. I took it to
    England/Scotland last year and I was disappointed. For my
    trip to Spain this spring, I will be bringing a LP guide
    instead.



  3. Comments Added by: Jer
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 13:11 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    To elodie: It is so hard not to be biased with this kind of
    thing, and even LP is guiltier of that one than what I would
    like. I'm glad that there is a degree of non-descriptive,
    non-commitance obtaining in LP, and hope it only gets more
    so, and thus, less biased.
    Can't say that I have much any use for Let's Go at all.
    After looking at LP books for a few months, and then looking
    at a Let's Go, I realized how absolutely useless they are.
    My absolute biggest complaint about LP is their pathetic
    indexes. The index is supposed to be the most useful tool
    in a guide like this and I have West Europe 1999: an 8 page
    index for an information book over 1300pages long... Give me
    a break! I don't know how many times I have had to page
    aimlessly for something that I had seen earlier.
    One last criticism. LP provides updates for guidebooks of
    particularily volatile regions. Well, Russia is pretty
    unstable and rapidly changing, but not a single update
    ("upgrade" I think they call them) for Russia, even though
    the last LP Russia book has information gathered from 1995
    or 1996. Nor do they include a section on Russia in the
    Eastern Europe edition. I have got to say, it would really
    be nice to have some up to date info on Russia from some one
    other than Let's Go.



  4. face the facts... Added by: Kerouac (Kerouac@wanadoo.fr)
    [Timestamp: Wed 10 Feb, 6:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Let's face it, Prague cannot just pick itself up and and
    put itself in western Europe. Same goes for Budapest,
    which is also a great city, although not as fashionable as
    Prague these days.
    As for the French "Guide du Routard," I know people who
    work for it, and it really is updated every year, sometimes
    too much: they try so hard to find new things to put in
    that perfectly good restaurants and hotels get thrown out
    just to make room for the new ones. They also have a
    policy of not giving prices "due to possible inflation" --
    in countries with 50% inflation, this makes perfect sense,
    but it is ridiculous in Western Europe with less than 1%
    inflation a year. So when they say "cheap" or "chic" in
    Switzerland or Portugal, you know that the kind of amount
    they're talking about is not at all the same, but you don't
    know what it is... At least with Lonely Planet, if the
    first 2 or 3 places I go to announce prices 20% higher than
    what is listed in the guide, I just add 20% to all of the
    other prices and it works out fine.



  5. LP Europe Added by: Amy
    [Timestamp: Wed 10 Feb, 10:29 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    As I understand it, Lonelyplanet has published a complete
    Europe book this year, just like Let's Go. I can't imagine
    how heavy it would be, but I'm glad that they took this
    step. I had to buy a book on Prague to accompany my Western
    Europe book which was a pain, but I simply left the book at
    the hostel for others to use for reference. The only gripe
    I have with LP's books are their maps. They don't put
    enough street names on the map! (Let's Go is more detailed)
    but there's no beating the overview of the country
    sections. :)



  6. rubbish Added by: oona
    [Timestamp: Fri 12 Feb, 7:19 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I was told when I first began travelling 10 years ago that
    the only thing that let's go is good for is toilet paper when
    none is available. I have since proven that to be true. Best
    bets are forums like these, printable website guide books...



  7. LP - great, but not alone Added by: Jens
    [Timestamp: Mon 15 Feb, 23:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Personally I recommend taking one more - either the Rough
    Guide or the Guide du Routard. Let's Go has one advantage;
    it seems to be printed on less heavy paper. That's it's best
    feature, I'm afraid.



  8. My Travel BIBLE! Added by: Nicole (devnpudge@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 16 March, 9:31 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I spent a year and a half living in and trekking around
    Western Europe. Lonely Planet was my travel BIBLE. Only
    twice in my entire expierence did I find TINY tidbits of
    info that were not accurate. Other than that, it's been my
    saving grace. I swear by it and highly reccomend it to
    anyone who it looking to travel. Another great read is any
    Rick Steves Backdoor series book. He is frank and witty in
    his writting. He has tons of great tips for everything from
    A to Z when it comes to travel. I agree that Let's Go is not
    up to par. I purchaced the new 1999 version for some more
    tips on my return to Europe this summer. I am less than
    impressed by it. The writting is dry and for a volume that
    prides itself on budget travel for adventurous young people,
    it provides very touristy and easy to come by listings.



  9. lonely planet Added by: globi
    [Timestamp: Sun 4 April, 7:57 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    why not have the updates done by locals via email, but I
    think this is still happening with reliable lp mostly.



  10. LP are not great Added by: Disagree
    [Timestamp: Thu 8 April, 0:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    i disagree - LP guides are not so great - unless all you
    want is a listing of cheap places to stay - Rough Guides
    are much better in my opinion. LP has a great web site
    though!!



  11. Here's a good question! Added by: Davies (ddavies@canada.com)
    [Timestamp: Thu 8 April, 22:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Another vote for Lonley Planet. Only gripe: Canaries not
    included in guide to Spain... sure I know, geographically
    it's part of Northern Africa, but politically part of
    Spain. Oh well, not really a big deal, the Xerox machine
    works fine...



  12. LP the BOMB!! Added by: Clint
    [Timestamp: Fri 16 April, 8:02 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    LP is the best in books on travel and this site that
    includes TT. The Rough Guide takes to long on answering on
    updates in their books and Let's Go never answers at all.
    Thanks to LP the travellers can have a voice. Thank's LP!



  13. LP is the better Added by: Lisa
    [Timestamp: Fri 16 April, 23:32 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I have traveled with both Lp and Let's Go and I found it
    great thatLet's go put the exact priecs out which seemed
    really hepful until I got to the place and the prices were
    like ten years old. Or even better...after departuring
    Guatemala and arriving in this tiny Mexican village where I
    was informed by the book that I could take the train to the
    next town and they had never even had a railway in their
    village!!!!!!! By the end of this trip I was so furious
    with Let's Go that I wrote them a letter and told them what
    I thought of their info. I think there was more things that
    were incorrect than accurate.
    Lonely Planet is better but as someone already mentioned
    above, it is guide not a rule. I am Swesdih and come from
    the third biggest town in Sweden. sometimes it's fun to
    read what LP has to say about your hometown and country and
    with risk of being biased I found lot's of "goodie" stuff
    was left out and maybe who ever went there didn't talk
    enough with the locals that would know of the hidden old
    town or the cuter market places... I'd still pick LP over
    Let's Go any day...



  14. LP All in one Europe Added by: pAkrAt
    [Timestamp: Fri 23 April, 23:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I have just bought the new 1999 all in one LP Europe on a
    shoestring guide and have to say that in printing it LP has
    amended its only downfall (i.e. having to buy half a tree
    if travelling the East and West). It even has a built in
    bookmark. The only things I would like to see added are
    routes between cities with estimated times (as they do in
    on the Rails around Europe by Thomas Cook) and a couple of
    blank pages in the back for updating your guidebook the
    good Old Fashioned way using a pen! Oh, I also agree that
    their city maps need to be a little more detailed. I love
    the colour photos though.



  15. eastern europe guide Added by: fiona
    [Timestamp: Sun 25 April, 22:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Not sure if the Eastern Europe on a shoestring book has
    been updated but we found while travelling with it last
    year theough the region, that it was extremerly out of
    date. A few examples:
    1. They wrote that Romania has only one ATM machine - we
    arrived in R. at Cluj Napoli a small town/city, and found
    rows of them. Even little towns like Sighisora had heaps of
    them. They didn't look that new either, so I don't know
    when the researches went through!
    2. Unless the camp ground has moved, the Eger section
    (Hungary) had the campground being less then 1 km from the
    train station - try 3!!! (must have been an american, not
    knowing the metric system!!!!!! :) )
    3. In Budapest, of the two internet places listed, one
    address never exsisted and the other shut down 3 years ago,
    according to the shop next door.
    However, we're going to Spain/Portugal this year and shall
    be taking the LP with us again, though they have updated
    them this year, or so they say!!! :)



  16. Lonely Planet are not god Added by: foil
    [Timestamp: Sun 16 May, 2:06 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Lonely planet publications are not the 'best', other
    guidebooks are as good if not better in terms of a quality
    product. eg Rough guide, blue peter, cagdogan and the list
    goes on. LP does market well to its target market. Have
    you ever thought about what a favorable mention in LP is
    worth to the proprietor of a travel related business ?
    The opposition while not as large have been providing better
    products to the consumer who shops around.




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