Why, especially the British and French allowing so many
third-world immigrants into your countries. Other countries
in Western Europe are doing it too. Don't you know what is
going to happen to your society??? If you ever visit the US,
you will notice that crime and poverty are most severe in
non-white parts of the country. Despite a few minor problems
I have always been safe in these parts. However, the more
thirdworlders there is around the more risky the area gets.
Also, heterogeneous societies do not function as well as
homogenous societies. Learn the leason from us, epsecialial
about third world immigrants. Have neighborhoods already
been formed in Europe, where minorities are now the
majority??? BAN ALL FORMS OF THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION TO YOUR
COUNTRIES. This might sound a bit racist, but it is only to
warn you. In my country, black people are 10 times as likely
to commit a homicide as a white person. I am no skin-head or
Neo-Nazi, but the statistics are available for all to see.
In fact, you do not even need statistics. Just come to the
US for yourself, if you don't believe. You will see that the
darker the people, the more dangerous it is. Please, watch
out who is in your countries. You might think that some
areas that are mostly European in Europe are bad, but
believe me, those areas are nothing compared to what would
happen to your societies, if you keep on letting more and
more third world immigrants in.
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Has anyone out there been on Eurobus in the past?(I
understand that this is now Busabout). Did you have a great
time or were the long bus journeys a complete nightmare? We
are thinking of going on Busabout this summer, any ideas of
what this may be like?
Wow Brian!!! You place crime on colour and you say you're
not racist. You're so amazing!!!!! Would help you out even
more if the people in Bosnia were black? How about the
Serbs? Since crime and violence is associated with colour,
everywhere else on the planet should be very peaceful.
Right? You don't even have to look at immigration in terms
of the states. The majority of the black poulation got there
by the slave trade. Do yu remember that and what happened
during and after it? Let me guess.....you never studied
american history! Maybe if there was more status put on the
black population instead of dicrimnation then things would
have been better. But of course, that can't happen.....it
would offend your sensibilities even more wouldn't it. But
What am I saying...... you aren't racist. You're just a
normal law abiding citizen that thinks that a whole segment
of the population is evil and should be discriminated
because they have darker skin.
And who am I? Oh nobody - just a dark skinned West Indian.
So tell me Brian, how do you propose to solve the problem?
the Holocost come to mind? Of I forgot, you not a nazi (oops
neo) either.
Brian, dear....did you ever stop to think that attitudes
like yours are perpetuating problems with racism and so-
called racial violence? Attitudes like yours seep into the
pysches of minorities and subconsciously convince them that
they're never going to be able to rise above the
stereotypes placed on them (like yours), so they may as
well live up to them. By spreading attitude like yours
around, people who are looking to find a salve to racial
problems are thwarted by your ignorence. Solidarity among
all people is the only way change can ever come about.
Let's think about this issue a little bit - at least a
little bit more than Brian did, OK?
Statistics are right: crime rises with people-of-colour;
organized, violent, murder. But, from only what I've read
because I have not seen these stats for myself - the balance
of this crime is so-called black on black crime.
What the hell does all this really mean? I mean, why beat on
your brother?
Well perhaps it's in our attitudes (listening, Brian??)
If any of it is true, you know we could get a lot further
ahead by giving each other a bit of a break and using our
attitude to break down some stereotypes instead of building
them up; not standing for crimes/violence from ANY group or
individual regardless of colour; working on the esteem
instead of the 'steam, you know?
Brian ! Yo ! I'm talkin' to YOU. Get out much? Been around
this world much? You get scared in Egypt? Sudan? HCM City?
Jogakarta? Not me, and it was plenty black & tan there, you
know what I mean?
Perhaps it's when immigrants take the big step and try that
leap of faith - gutsier than anything I've ever done, man -
and tear it all up to take a chance in a new country. Then
they get hear and it ain't the land of the free and the home
of the brave - it's the land of the white and you jus' a
tenant, boy; and it's the home of pervasive attitudes a
little like yours, Bri'.
You kill what you ear & you fear what you don't understand.
sign me,
Whiter-Than-White
(but what does that matter?)
are simply too ignorant to warrant my attention. Did it
ever occur to you that the ancestors of most of the "people
of colour" (as some term them) came to The New World in
chains? That they have been oppressed at home and in the
countries where they were taken? But, for that matter, the
largest representative democracy is run for and by such
people? I refer, Brian, to India.
I can only wonder what Brian would say when his perfect
Aryan world turns out to be a homogenous world of white,
suburban schoolchildren pulling guns out and shooting
eachother every other week. Who's he going to blame? Brian,
take your hate back to your subdivision and stay off our
board.
Could you guys (posts 1-6 specifically) be more PC? I notice
how none of you took issue with the facts in his
statement....anybody (even head-in-the-sand folks like
yourselves) who has ever spent time in the US knows the
minority parts of town are where it's rough. That is a FACT.
I don't get paid to figure out why- I'm not a sociologist-
I just know a young black male is far more likely
(statistically) to assault me or my friends than any member
of any other race. That doesn't mean Im paranoid, it just
means I'm sensible. And any American who lives in a major
urban area, acts and thinks on this very supposition,
whether they be black or white, and no matter what they tell
their friends.
Tell me- Why do Korean people come here basically hanging
off a boat and open stores while I see the same black and
hispanic kids hanging on the same corner for 5 years, doing
dick-all????? Because Korean people are here for the right
reasons- to make money and build a better life for the
future. They work, save and prosper. That's all it takes.
You can cry the US is a racist country all you want, and it
may be, but still there they are, quietly running
their businesses every day, the millions of Asians
(all Koreans, most Chinese, some Vietnamese, many Indians)
who prosper here. Nobody gives them any breaks the blacks
don't get. They just shut up and bust their ass to make it.
That is why they show you all to be liars.
What facts exactly are you talking about? So the statistics
books gives the figure by race. That's doesn't justify
Brian's post, neither does it make the rest of us liars!
Asians in the US make a living the way they see how - great
for them. But immigrant Asians and American blacks do not
have the same time of menality about life and even I, as a
black, will say that's unfortunate. But I can tell you this,
many black West Indians (obviously not all as the crime
facts show) work their buts off in the US legitimately to
provide money and stuff for their family in the Caribbean.
---------------------------------------
As for breaks, I personally don't know what type of breaks
are available in the US since I don't live there. But I do
know one thing and that's their sense of community and sense
worth has never been fostered, unlike the Asians that rely
on family and community. Look at the degree to which they
have been discrimnated against past and present compared to
the Asians in the US. There had to have been a bloody civil
war before slavery was abolished! I don't think the
comparison between blacks and Asians is fair.
---------------------------
I think blacks have a lot to answer for in terms of crime
and so does every other race on the planet. It doesn't make
the rest of liars and it doesn't make Brian right!
I don't wanna waste my time insulting Brian (although he
deserves so much), just a few things.
-First, 80% of US improvement in culture and business comes
from the ghetto, so means black, this is a FACT.
-Second, USA's now the most important country in the world
because of its unique mixture of races and cultures, ask
anyone: I hope here in Europe it's gonna happen the same
(see the main countries, such as UK and Germany, are the
most race-mixed; we couldn't say it for Italy or Greece, for
example).
-Third, I've been living in Miami (South Beach and Hialea)
and NY (Brooklyn and Harlem), and I travelled thru US: I've
seen no crimes at all. In Milano, where I'm living at the
moment, it's dangerous walk anywhere (we got 9 murders in
the last 7 days).
-Fourth, I've crossed Africa once and stayed there a second
time. No problems, everybody black.
-Last and MOST IMPORTANT: don't you consider a crime what
white people did in the past to other races? And what
they're still doin in places such as Africa, South America
etc.?
I have a dream...that one day, all the white racists will
move to a desert island and they'll keep their own aryan
race and stop stressing us-people of the planet Earth.
------
A white skin, black soul and mind, italian guy--Gianni.
Its always interesting, in any discussion about society...I
have always been intrigued by people's abuse of statistics.
People often say "statistics say this..." or "statistics say
that...", and often not stating the context the statistic
was based on.
Lets look at (shudder) some of the stats...Brian says "black
people are 10 times as likely to commit a homicide as a
white person." Well assuming this is even true, stats also
say that the massive majority of crime is commited by
whites, the simple reason being that they make the majority
of the population. An explaination of the stat dilivered by
Brian is that crime tends to be higher among poorer sectors
of society. I know for a fact that his numbers will not hold
up among the middle/upper class of blacks who actually have
simillar crime rates as other groups including whites.
My point is statistics in themselves can be very
misleading...they must be taken in context so as to be
understood. Another point I would like to make is to clarify
by what we mean by "black". In later post by Gianni, he
indicated on how the aisan immigrants into the US were more
successful than thier black counterparts. I have seen
simmilar remarks before, but lets look at it closer....You
see depending on what you mean as "black" the statment
becomes either true or false. If we mean "black immigrants"
such as those that arrived recently from Carribean and
Africa...then the statement is just not true. Infact these
groups on average make more money than the average national
income and also more than the average white income. If we
are referring to the blacks brought over as slaves then the
statement is true. I will not prentend to know why this is
so...but skin color obviously is not the reason...as our
successful black immigrants have demonstrated.
One more thing, in defence of Black Americans....let me just
say that the majority of them don't live in the ghetto, and
the lifestyle they lead is not done justice in the media and
in the various statistics posted about them...they actually
behave much like thier white counterparts.
The fact is that it is povery is the driving engine of crime
and there has never been conclusive proof that ethnicity has
any bearing on crime. My belief is that it is the failure of
of the US to address its povetry is the root of thier crime
problem.
Greets to All from Canada!
There is a sad point about all of this. In a television show
was shown how easy it was to get accepted as a refugee in
(in this case) Holland. A guy with a hidden camera showed
what had to be done for some Afghan to travel to Holland and
get his/her story accepted. The story was obviously faked,
the passport was faked and this all in one way trip was
$8000. If you own $8000 and live in Khabul... then you are
quite rich already. I do not own $8000 at the moment. So a
lot of immigrants (or actually refugees, since immigrants
get accepted in Holland since they have work and are not
dependent on society). Holland is he country in Europe with
relatively the largest intake of refugees. As a matter of
fact I know that Finland does not really take refugees. Some
40 a year. Is Finland doing bad? No, it is an economically
boosting country. So, are they nazi's? No, they try to help
third world countries by trying to improve the country
itself, not to gather the fleeing which is for a lot an
economical flight. Some influx of other cultures is quite
good for a country, but this influx has to be done by proper
immigrants who come to the country to work in the first
place. Brian, nowadays a lot of Europeans are actually
feeling the presence of a lot of foreigners as a treat.
Societies become more rightwing. There is a mutual feeling
that something has to be done. There is not a clear solution
to all this. Your reaction is quite overdone: race has
nothing to do with crime. It's more the difference between
cultures and opinions I guess.
For those statistics lovers: social statistics have a lot to
do with race. At a statistics conference I attended some
talks with some reviews about teenage pregnancies. Black
women in the US have a far greater probability of having a
teenage pregnancy than other groups. As are women living
near a military base for that matter...
Peace
he is just stupid!
Want to talk about statistics? Do you know that a famous
statistician (could be you Brian...) was drowned in a river
who's average depth was only 1 feet !
Know just look at yourself, gentle WASP guy, and think
about all the American Indians killed by the US Army...
Me, as a French white guy, born in Western Africa and who
lived there for more than 15 years, can tell that I never
felt in danger there even when I was the only white guy in
the street.
If there is one day a new Hitler guys like you would be the
first to follow him, remember that Hitler was elected : "He
is not racist! just look at the statistics!!".
Let's go back to Brian's original problem - he isn't afraid
of people in third world countries, but only those we "let
in" to Europe, and what will happen to our societies.
Well, let's look at that. White Americans treat the blacks
like shit for 250 years, well after the law has declared
them equal - look at the Martin Luther King demos. The
French consider anyone not French to be beneath them and
vote about 20% for the National Front. The East Germans,
which is where most of the neo-nazis come from have never
had the Hitler guilt-trip that the West did, as they always
considered themselves victims too, so the entrenched racism
was never ironed out of their society.
Maybe it's not surprising that in these societies the
immigrants hide away in ghettoes, and with such a
concentration of poverty and resentment of course there's a
rise in crime.
Britain is no way perfect but I'd love to take Brian round a
few places. Our statistic is that 50% of black/coloured
babies born last year were of mixed parentage. That
signifies acceptance, and those kids are no more likely to
commit a crime because one parent was black than they are
less likely because one was white.
And anyway, if you'd ever studied history you'd know that
Europe is one massive heterogeneous society and has been for
over 2000 years. Mixing is the answer, Brian. Ask a farmer
- hybrids are stronger and a wide gene pool ensures the
survival of the species.
I live in Hong Kong where everyone is an immigrant from a
third world country. Including most of the Brits these days
who arrived on the run from Thatcher's Britain.
No crime problem here.
PS Does Brian also consider the Irish immigrants to America
or anywhere else as third world immigrants? It was a pretty
backward colonised nation at the time.
I live in Hong Kong where everyone is an immigrant from a
third world country. Including most of the Brits these days
who arrived on the run from Thatcher's Britain.
No crime problem here.
PS Does Brian also consider the Irish immigrants to America
or anywhere else as third world immigrants? It was a pretty
backward colonised nation at the time.
is that brian is making all this up, trying to provoke
everyone to anger and defense of the little people. Bravo,
little man.
by the way, if he's real he is living a deluded dream world.
yo Brian
don't be silly, put a condom on your willy
everybody
and indeed it will soon be a true 'lonely planet'
brian - i am shocked to say the least. everyone is entilted
to their own opion, so say what you want, but dont expect
support. I dont want to pigeon-hole you cos then i'd be as
low as you are...my fave line is:"the darker the people are
the more dangerous it gets". did you think about the
generations of "minority" groups who have suffered cruel
racsim and have never been given a chance at equality until
recently...you say you are not racist - do you know what
that word means? look within yourself instead of outwardly,
stop blaming society.
And I'm not trolling. Statistics and opinions and other
assorted nonsense aside, I just want you guys to answer
these questions. 1)Why am I safe in Stockholm, Sweden and
not in Angola. Is this all to do with oppression? Who
is oppressing the Angolans right now? 2)Why were 68 percent
of the lawyers in Berlin in 1932 Jews? Wasn't that an
oppressive environment- a society which later swept Hitler
to power. But yet Jews still were disproportionately
represented in the professional fields. Why? Is it because
smart people (and communities) will succeed regardless of
circumstance? 3)Will anyone of you name a white neighborhood
ANYWHERE in the US which is more dangerous than South Side
Chicago, Detroit, South Bronx, Atlanta or D.C. Didn't think
so.
I don't hate any race, and I don't know anything about the
race situation in England. I'm just tired of the hypocrisy
in America, where everybody tries to pretend that we all
commit the same amount of crime. NOT TRUE.
the militia "neighborhoods" in the west? Give me a gang
member who can change any day over someone like, say,
Timothy McVeigh. Or Kaczinski. Or, you know, Jeffrey
Dahmer. Ted Bundy. All those white serial killers. Or how
'bout all those innocent school children pulling out rifles
in class? Or the disgruntled postal workers? Or neonazis.
None of these people are poor. None of these people are
minorities. None of these people have any history of
oppression whatsoever. they are all just wacko. and
white. and, come to think of it, male. So, why, women of
the world, are we letting all these MALES into our lives,
when, gosh darn it, they're all so violent? Why don't we
frikkin' freeze some sperm, castrate the men, and live
happily ever after?
..and I was right! The people I feel most sorry for are the
hard-working black people who have to put up with that
bullshit every day.
..and I was right! The people I feel most sorry for are the
hard-working black people who have to put up with that
bullshit every day.
A recent report stated that per 1000 population Stockholm
has a higher murder rate than London. As I recall, London
has a higher number of "non-whites" than Stockholm, so
"tired of the lies" where does that leave your theory? You
would not be safe in Stockholm. And neither are you welcome.
I can't believe you pretend to be an intelligent being who
walks upright, because you sure sound like the material of
your gene pool comes form the bottom of the barrel!!
Wow, and now Hitler, although supposedly a victim of his own
hand, has joined the technological age. Sorry I did not
bother to read all of your post, but senseless crap is not
my preferred reading. Higher Beings forbid if you ever
cross my path as, as an Australian and coming from a nation
of immigrants, I might try to up the crime rates of my
country.
Brian! I could have used you in my team during the raging
40s! Pity I'm dead now. Still, perhaps we could do an
afterlife deal, yeah?
...well, it's been a while and, just as I predicted, no one
has answered any of my questions in post #19. Why not, I
wonder. One person half-adressed my Stockholm question by
comparing it to London, another white city, instead of
Angola. That's not gonna cut it. Why do I feel so safe in
Stockholm and not in the Bronx? I just can't figure it
out...
By the way, is anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi? I'm
Jewish, how do you like that. Still think I'm a Nazi?
You said you feel sure in Stockholm and not in The Bronx:
why? You'd answer that you can't walk in The Bronx without
feeling scared to be attacked by someone(...). Been there,
not scared at all (see post n░9). You're scared of what?
Does COLOUR scare you? Hollywood movies? Maybe you keep
watching dark people and they come to you: they don't feel
safe. It's a tradition that lots of whites treat very bad
people in the ghetto, don't know why they feel above them.
Do you feel safe in Stockholm? I've never been there, but I
live in Italy, white country. Italians got mafia, white.
Italian exported crime all over the world. Try ro walk in
Palermo: everyone white, but don't tell me you'd feel safe.
About the Nazi thing: there are italian sons of fascism
victims in the actual fascist party (believe me, it's still
alive-A.N.), so everything is possible...
I'd like to hear the opinion of some black living in the
ghetto, expecially in US. Waste some time for shit like
Brian.
I do not know about real nazis or politically correct nazis
but brians outlook on life is totally fucked up and not
subsequently not worth reading. The poor might be the people
who run away from their own countries because it is crap to
live there, if I was in there shoes i might do the same
thing. the thing that pisses me off is how poor people
cannot get decent simple jobs. the only thing left for these
people nowadays are employment agencies(assuming they are
not prepared to be educated)and those jobs are super-crap,
they could maybe improve pay and conditions, which would not
be difficult.
i understand it is a difficult situation, and it is about
money, NOT COLOUR brian.they could be any colour, that is
largely irrelevant. I hate when I walk through a train
station and the place is full of alcoholic beggars. it is
not intergration or a progression to a multicultural
society. this is a threat to national culture. give these
people jobs. help them. educate them.if they do not
cooperate they must leave. thats fair.
anyway.
You cannot compare America to Europe. Why not try to make
your home a little nicer. Sodom?. Europe really does not
need any advice from you. We have had it all here, including
thousands of years of cultural intergration.
bye
Mr. Statistical Bigot wrote:
"Why do I feel so safe in Stockholm and not in the Bronx? I
just can't figure it out..."
You feel safe in Stockholm because the Swedish don't allow
every Tom, Dick, and Harry with $30 and a driver's license
to buy a handgun. America has one of the highest murder
rates in the world NOT because we have so many Third World
immigrants, but because we have so many GUNS. The dangerous
Third World nations, such as Angola, have a similarly
terrifying weapon:person ratio. In the case of countrie
like Angola, it's generally because they recently fought a
civil war. In the case of the U.S., it's because we've
decided to make arming yourself to the teeth a civil right.
Mr. Statistical Bigot also wrote:
"By the way, is anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi? I'm
Jewish, how do you like that. Still think I'm a Nazi?"
No, clearly you're not -- but only because they don't let in
Jews. You'd probably have joined the fascists in Italy;
there were plenty of Jews who voted for Mussolini. You make
me feel ill. I'm not sure why Jewish racists bother me even
more than non-Jewish racists; I'm fully aware that we're no
more moral than any other religious group.
Well, my boy, you should get a life! (This means, first of
all, get yourself a woman) Maybe then, you will start
looking more at yourself and the things YOU do for society,
and less at the things others do.
idiot. why do people with pea brains have access to the
internet? this guy does not represent the views of the
vast majority of americans, but we do have a few mean
spirited people
Well, I guess my 3 questions in post #19 will forever go
unanswered. I find it funny that popular opinion holds
people like myself to be crazy and angry, while you who
take the other side represent calm, enlightened thought and
yet, if one had no opinion on the issue and just read the
posts, you'd think it was exactly the reverse....I have put
on the table reasoned arguments while my opponents write
only personal invective, questioning my sanity and
happiness....odd that, judging just by our writing, I'm
smarter than any of you.
I'm reminded of the hue and cry when the Bell Curve was put
out in 1994. Few of the critics of course, actually read the
book, but yet they all lined up to criticize it. This
despite the fact that the book only published official
government IQ tests taken over a 20-year period. These
showed the average Jewish IQ to be 112, the average
Asian IQ to be 103, the average white IQ to be 100,
and the average black IQ to be.....84. (this is in the US,
of course). Anybody who lives in America deep down knows
these numbers are just about right.
My favorite argument against the book was in Time magazine,
by a scientist who said there was so much race-mixing that
one could not talk about separate races. Really? that's
funny. How many black people have blond hair? Dennis Rodman
doesn't count.
One more question that will never be answered on this tree,
I guess.....
...and maybe I'm more than you. I keep following you.
1-I thoght I answered your question on post 28 about post
19, let me put it in this way: you asked who's oppressing
angolans now, better say 'what is oppressing'. Poverty;
don't say nothing if you've never been in Africa. About the
1932 Jews statistic: I asked a Jewish friend why Jews are so
rich in America, he answered that you gotta be rich to move
there. In case you don't understand, money rules, expecially
in 1932 Germany. You can find the answer to the third
question on post n░19 on my post n░28.
2-The IQ test: I did it. My score was 145/150. It was
written that between 95 and 120 you're in the high level. I
don't think I'm this intelligent, I think that test is a
bullshit, as every test is, no matter how professional they
are. How could you understand someone just asking some
question? And how could you judge a race by 100 answers?
3-You think blacks are so stupid, so why all the greatest
artists in the world are black, now that (almost) everyone
has the chance to be known? Music IS black, for example. And
only artists in black society are famous because there is no
way out on art, if you have talents, you reach the top.
Don't mention any of the ancient times please, we all know
that years ago non-whites were considered like 'animals'.
I'm quite sure that, if you'll reply, I'll do it back. But
this is good for Brian, the boy's maybe learning...
Music IS black? Do the names Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin or
countless other European geniuses mean anything. I assume
you're Italian- what about Verdi, one of the musical
geniuses of any time. Don't you have pride in that?
Of course there are many great black musicians. But this is
discussion is not about art or IQ- it was about crime.
read again my post: I wrote clearly about the situation
centuries ago. Can you tell me how could a black musician
become famous in the 17th century? I'm a musician and I can
tell you for sure that it's very hard to understand the real
ownership of music, try to imagine how hard was when
copyright didn't exist. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven are part of
the popular musical culture, but who's deep in music
appreciates most the other side: traditional in the past,
jazz and blues nowadays. Got it?
I know it's about crime, but racism creates emargination and
consequently crime. And to fight racism you gotta show some
people their enemy's qualities...
If black people read your post, I can't blame them if they
commit crime ten times more often.
Since so many of you have reamed poor Brian's ass -- and
may I add, very deservingly -- at this point I would like
to the notion of compassion for his shallow spirits.
Black or white, rich or poor, enlightened or hopelessly
darkened, we in this world are products of place and
parentage. Not all of our limitations can be excused by
these factors, because at some point, we gain control of
our own lives and our own attitudes. What happens to us,
though, if we are never shown another way of thinking?
Perhaps something in Brian's early life pointed him toward
a restricted way of thinking, where what he doesn't
understand breeds fear and reproach instead of openness and
acceptance. I hope once the sizzle of these posts are
allowed to cool on his brow, he might open his mind to
different views. Maybe, as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once
prayed, he will begin to judge others by the content of
their character, and not by the color of his skin. Maybe he
will find himself reaching out to play a postive part in
the young life of someone outside his homogeneous nest.
Yes, whites have killed blacks, and blacks have killed
whites, and whites have killed whites, and blacks have
killed blacks, and the Asians have killed among themselves
and others, and the Europeans spent a lot of this early
century killing each other, and hey, then don't forget the
Moors and the Christian Crusaders, and the Hindus and the
Muslims, and the Catholics and the Protestants and gee,
there are so many murderous axes leveled against the heads
of so many races and religions, we'd have to go way, way
back to identify the first sin and what would that prove
anyway?
As a white American, I am thankful for the cultural
influences of all of the many immigrant groups. My study of
history has shown that man's ability to love and to hate is
not confined by skin color or religion. I am ashamed of
Brian, and yet sorry for him. I hope he gets a clue, and I
hope all of us, through open discussion, can find some
peace.
I really think that you wrote that bullshit just to gain a
little attention from your bully boy friend down at the bar.
I bet you don't even have a close friend, suffer a multiple
of complexities and most likely phsycologically fucked up.
Go back to bed and do the decent thing, for the good of
society
A 11 year old
I really think that you wrote that bullshit just to gain a
little attention from your bully boy friend down at the bar.
I bet you don't even have a close friend, suffer a multiple
of complexities and most likely phsycologically fucked up.
Go back to bed and do the decent thing, for the good of
society
A 11 year old
Hey Dipshit!! All I have to add to your babble is that
you forgot to mention that you are a RETARD. I'm ashamed
that you share the same first name as me. I hope you
actually get your head out of your ass some day!
Cheers and FUCK YOU
I hope to run into you someday in the States so I can kick
your ass!! Care to post your home address?
Ok...time for a level headed, neutral psychiatrist ( yes
there exists such a creature ) to intervene.
1. As previously noted, Mr.Brian is indeed most likely
trying 'to stir the pot' and all the 'western
sentimentality' towards minorities, the environment, the
disabled, women...etc,that is working against itself and
fragmenting society, has come predictably pouring forth. He
can now read your comments and satisfy his urges to
irritate. However, you all allowed him to do so. I hope you
all are able to think more independently in the future. I
assume The Lonely Planet is not reserved for the opinions
of sheep.
2. Commentator #20...'anti-male'...how interesting. You
obviously, and rightfully, abhore racisim. As we all
should...and I am sure Brian REALLY does. However, by
advocating the destruction of all 'males' ( regardless of
race I assume) you walk the very same line. Some have
labelled it 'nazism' that the true followers of racisim,
Brian excluded, expound. Your comments and followers are
part of the reason we can not live as equals.You can not
have it both ways. I hope your 'liberal education' taught
you more than this rehearsed speech. By the way...I am a
woman doctor of Hispanic ancestry...does this change your
opinion of me?
3. I now welcome the next commentator to predictably tear
into me , as ' a tool of the dominant white patriarchy'...
we of all generations have heard it all before.
Ok...time for a level headed, neutral psychiatrist ( yes
there exists such a creature ) to intervene.
1. As previously noted, Mr.Brian is indeed most likely
trying 'to stir the pot' and all the 'western
sentimentality' towards minorities, the environment, the
disabled, women...etc,that is working against itself and
fragmenting society, has come predictably pouring forth. He
can now read your comments and satisfy his urges to
irritate. However, you all allowed him to do so. I hope you
all are able to think more independently in the future. I
assume The Lonely Planet is not reserved for the opinions
of sheep.
2. Commentator #20...'anti-male'...how interesting. You
obviously, and rightfully, abhore racisim. As we all
should...and I am sure Brian REALLY does. However, by
advocating the destruction of all 'males' ( regardless of
race I assume) you walk the very same line. Some have
labelled it 'nazism' that the true followers of racisim,
Brian excluded, expound. Your comments and followers are
part of the reason we can not live as equals.You can not
have it both ways. I hope your 'liberal education' taught
you more than this rehearsed speech. By the way...I am a
woman doctor of Hispanic ancestry...does this change your
opinion of me?
3. I now welcome the next commentator to predictably tear
into me , as ' a tool of the dominant white patriarchy'...
we of all generations have heard it all before.
YoU ObViOuSlY hAvE pRoBleMS LadY!! NOt tOo MentiOn YoU'rE
qUiTe tHe FuCKinG IrrItanT!! So SHuT ThE FuCK Up!!
Post 44/43...I really really really hate people who think
because their brain functions well, they are somehow more
aware than the rest of society. When the new order comes, I
am going to put you all up against a wall and sh**t you. We
are alive, and if we don't like something ,thats good
enough, we are alive and we know what we think
WHEWWW HEWWWWW JESUS ROCKS!!
FUCK THE BRAIN CHIC. She's still a fucking MORON. AND
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'm going to help Jesus SHOOT YOU!!
You're still a BITCH and BRIAN is still an ignorant dipshit
so FUCK HIM TOO. YaY for being a disgruntled Postal
Worker.
where did I put my HK 10mm?
first of all brian it is not simply a matter of race. for example in the usa the japanese, korean and chinese immigrants in general have a very low crime rate and hig education quotent. their culture and the money and family ties they have enable them to start small family businesses and send their children to college who then get good paying jobs. the cambodian refugees were poor and had little family connections in the usa do poorly in general in schoool and have a high suicide and crime rate. cultural and monetary differences. most immigrant groups here initially had a high crime rate as they turned to the fastest ways to make money - there were major riots against italians for example at oe time. remember the no irish need apply signs. they found a niche and worked their way up. in like manner the west caribbean blacks in general have a strong family support structure and do well in school and economically. the blacks who came from a slave base in the usa did well during the first world war when factory jobs opened up for them and at one time in the usa had a higher rate of successful marriages and lesser rate of children out of wedlock than the white population. then the welfare system was instituted which penalized people who were still married and made them lose their medical benefits if they obtained a job. this program was made by the usual silly and stupid politicians who have no sense and do not know whatthere policies will do. some of them were well meaning, virtually all of them were foolish. soblack men began to move out from the faily, use drugs, drnk and turn to crime for money because the drugs became expensive as we started our silly war on drugs. as a result we have the highest prison population per capita in the world- much higher than any african country including the union of south africa. many of these prisoners are black and most are nonviolent drug offenses. the whites usually have jobs and stable families and get off with probation. the white collar crime is also generally gently treated though definitely a serious problem- some rob you with a six gun, some with a fountain pen.
it is true that small homogenous societies do tend to have low crime rates. the social pressures tend to keep people in line but in the large cities and especially in countries with high mobility the social pressures are insufficient. so young black men may turn to crime even though they average only 5 to seven dollars an hour as a petty criminal and have a lifespan now less than most third world country persons in africa. of course they allhope to become the michael jordan of crime but we know that doesn't happen very often.
the united states is doing well economically simply because it continues to suck into this country people with brains and ambition from all over the world,. many of them also bring over their capital. the atomic bomb, rockets, genetic research, computers, look at all the immigrants.
the mexican immigrants in general have a strong religious and family foundation and do very well in the sa. the cubans have doe ver well in the usa. on the other hand many of the hispanics from puerto rico in new york and hispanics in california who have lived here for many generations join gangs- it is cultural not race. and the culture to blame for a significant portion of the problems is the us culture and its minions sitting in te congress in washington d.c. if the capitol of the coutry is in such disgracefu shape and unsafe to walk in most places at night can the rest of the country be far behind? i hope this long diatrbe answers some of your questions brian. personally i am disgusted tired of fighting for improvements. Cultures like new zealand have learned to get along maori and white for the most part. australia ha loosened their restrictive immigrant policie and the results have been very good i beliee but iw will bow to the land of oz for comments. new zealand i was pleased to the extent thtat i applied for residency.
Have you ever heard of Pauline Hanson, the Australian ex-
One Nation party leader who believes that the indigenous
people of Australia are scum and that immigrants are
lowlife job stealers? Sounds as though you have a lot in
common. Thing is, buddy, she didn't get re-elected, because
Australian people on the whole don't like this brand of
uninformed, stupid, frightened racism. I don't think black
people or immigrants in your country are the problem.
People like you are the problem. Get a grip on reality and
stop acting as if your white anglo male american status
gives you the right to hate others.
I really enjoy reading The Thorn tree for the great stories
and information that is shared by fellow travellers. But
when I come across a moronic, self-obsessed idiot like
Brian it makes me wonder what is happening in the world...
Keep your stupid, racist comments to yourself. Try
travelling in other countries where your race is not the
majority and understand how it feels for a change.
Your a sick puppy
It's obvious you are a hypocrite. An Asian who's been
discriminated against who turns around and does the same.
Two wrongs don't make a right. It's obvious all you cared
about coming to this country for was to make money. You
need an education in culture and tolerance yourself--BIG
TIME
No one answered your questions because you don't deserve a
second of their time! If you had a brain, you'd have figured
it out already!2 Go find a planet and stay there!
I am the 53th message and the only agree with brian.I come
to help you brian...There is a real problem in
europe,notably in France where i live.I will take some time
later to explain this complex problem,which can't be
discussed with insulting wors.Know Brian that there are some
people thinking like you.Send a message here if you want we
discuss together longer.I have no e-mail.
I had decided on not commenting this topic...but then again how is that possible...Brian reminds me of an american racist "chatfriend" I had that HATED all blacks cause they were all bad people and dangerous. I spent hours reasoning with her. As it turned out she didn't really know any blacks at all. It was the statistics...the poor areas in the cities bla bla. There are reasons as to why these areas are inhabited mostly with blacks, and these reasons are mostly created by whites throughout time. Poverty is the key-word as many of you have already stated. Blacks have been slaves, then simply harrassed and not given the same benefits as whites for decades and even centuries. Yes, society have changed, laws are now giving blacks the same rights as whites. Nothing is stopping the blacks from succeeding except poverty. Only it's not even that simple. Yes the crime rate is high in the ghettos. Not because the people there are black, but because they are living in a society where only the strong have survived for decades. You kill or get killed - and you can't simply say "no - I want to go to college" when your entire life is all about keeping yourself alive. It IS a cultural thing that has evolved because of years and years of being held down by the real bad guy. The whites. Face it Brian - we (the white people) have fucked the world over and over. And you can't believe that because the laws are equal to whites and blacks that everything will be ok over night. The ghettos are the worlds to many blacks - maybe the one place white people left them in peace - without money or work of course. Hmmm this turned out to be a bit of a ramble, but my point is that poverty and opression surrounded by a rich society of people that basically hate them has led to a higher crime rate amongst the blacks. WE the whites have created this situation. Blacks that have the same level of acceptance and economy as whites are not more criminal than us, and poor white people are equally violent as poor blacks. The statistics are correct by all means, but they are not saying anything about reasons. Blacks are not more violent because they are black....geezz...I'm looking for a spoon here to feed Brian and this tired of lies character.
As for your 3 questions....how stupid are you anyway?
1) Why is Kuwait a safer place than Sweden (when they're not invaded by another idiot with similar attitude to yours, only the other way around)?
2)The jews - and you being one should know this - were basically doing the same work as everybody else. Only something happened thousands of years ago that lead to the opression of these people. They were basically squeezed out of every occupation. So they became experts in banking and a few other types of occupation, worked their butt of and made it. Untill Hitler came and fucked them again. And know this - he would have though of YOU the way you think of blacks.
3)There are no white neighbourhoods in the US more dangerous than the ones you list. The reasons for that should have been explained to you about 20 times by now, but you simply can't get it can you?
.................
My chatfriend took the consequence of our talks and decided to be more open to blacks. Of course she has still fears for the black neighbourhoods because, as you say, the statistics don't lie, they simply don't give the reasons. Now one of her best friends is black.
And I have a final question to you racists out there...why is it that you always talk about how bad blacks are, and then you brag about the great US sport teams dominated by blacks like Michael Jordan and Carl Lewis....and why is Will Smith so popular....I guess you're afraid of all of them. Sorry if this post seems a bit fragmented, but I was simply so angry that I couldn't get my thoughts typed fast enough...
..........
I'm white, and you're one of the few whites I can call
"brother". I wrote some posts above, and of course I agree
with everything you said. Now the main point is this: it's
time for whitemen to admit white crimes, as you clearly
explained and I did on post #9. Whites messed it up, now
it's time for whites to fix, although blacks are doing it
without. We all want a right world, same opportunities,
isn't it? Media, institutions are not racist, it's all about
the money: only a few like Brian get the side effect, but
they're fading away, luckily.
holy f**k , I can't believe everything I just read. Brian,
aside from being a racist bastard, your ignorance has done
nothing but ruin a perfectly good time on the net for me and
I'm sure I can safely say, for many others as well. I'd love
to know where you are getting your ridiculous statistics and
at least be intelligent enough ( is that asking for too
much?)to realize that for every stat. you may choose to
present there are many others that will put it to shame. You
scare me. What the hell are you doing on this website
anyways? Do you even have the slightest understanding as to
what this page is about? It's about tolerance and perhaps
the opportunity to share knowledge with each other that can
ENRICH our lives, not bring us back to a time when idiots
like you were a majority and practically destroyed us with
your hate and lies. I try to be understanding but you are
exactly the kind of person I would want kick. Oh my, I just
looked at my hands while writing this, they are not black!!
What the hell does that say about your statistics?? You are
such a waste of time.
The reason there are so many third world people in Britain
is because the British went to their country and exploited
them. Now its come back to haunt them. If the Europeans and
Americans had stayed home they wouldn't have this "problem"
Personally I would feel much safer walking through any third
world neighborhood than in Nazi Germany amongst all
those "fine" white people.
Jeffrey Dahmer and most serial murderers were white. I don't
know of any third world neighborhood that has systematically
gassed, experimented, and committed genocide in the US or
Europe.
If you think London is a white city I suggest you come to
London. You obviously never have.
BRIAN...NO YOU ARE NOT A NEO NAZI NOR A SKINHEAD ,NOBODY
TAKES THEM SERIOUS ANYWAY.YOU ARE THE ANONIMOUS BLAND STUPID
MINORITY WHO MAKES STATEMENTS ABOUT SERIOUS SUBJECTS WITHOUT
TAKING THE EFFORT OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
BRIAN AND LUIS are in BED together trying to have more
white children. They want to demonstrate how smart they
both are to us all. GOOD luck ya nelly fruitloops. I
hope you both get hit by a bus!
...that almost knowone leaves his country and everything he owns just for nothing. It's a big step and to go to a totally different country isn't just something you just do. You has to do it, otherwise you'll be killed or something.
And...not everybody leaves is country for the same reason. I'm working as a volunteer in a camp for refugees her in the Netherlands. If you hear the stories of all those different people, you would be so glad that you live in peace!!
Just be happy with everything you own (family etc.) and ignor people like Brian.
Have you ever thought about the reason why people in the
migrant area commit more crimes? Because in the western
countries they do not get a fair chance to prove they are
capable of getting a good job and to work hard. In most
cases if people have to choose between a white or a colored
person, they choose the white person, because they
immediately think of the stereotype-idea that people with
another color can not work hard. They do not even get
the chance to prove themselves! Shall we first look at
ourselves before we judge others?!
fuck you , Brian you ignorant piece of shit.
After reading Brian's, Tired of Lies,etc, I come to realize
that racism still exists in the world. A friend of mine
went to Stockholm two years ago and almost beaten by some
racist Swedes. In spite of that insident he still wanted to
go to Sweden because not all Swedes are like those bad ones
who tried to mess up his trip. Many props to the people who
represent tolerence and fairness. To the intolerent and
racist Blacks and Black music are here to stay!
.
Lets face it Brian black or white we are all evolved from
apes.The only reason Europeans are white is due to the fact
that their dark skin faded over the years of their trek up
from Africa and living in a cold climate.I am a white who
has moved to South Africa and for me its like coming home.
Brian, buddy slow down..
you sound so intelligent...
I am an American traveling through Australia at the moment..
Sydney and Melbourne are very diverse cultural cities, but
sometimes I miss the black culture of urban America...
However i have never missed the white supremacists of rural
america where i spent some time in my youth...
Prejudice and hatred is the single reason for the bloodshed
around the world, be it Yugoslavia, Africa, or Ireland,
etc...
Wait a minute here.
I don't agree at all with Brian, especially the crime
thing... it's a shame to think that way. it's sad. he
probably doesn't know better, but the sadest thing is that
lots of american (i know, i am) think that way.
BUT i think we should indeed limit the number of immigrants
coming in different countries (except in times of war, like
right now, in Yougoslavia, i have respect for the
surrounding countries who accept those people in their
country).
Why? just imagine what it would be like if the world was a
big melting pot. All the countries would look the same!
what makes a country special is its differences from other
countries. by mixing every culture together we obtain
uniformity and boredom.
what i'm saying is if i go in india, i wanna see indians
and i wanna enjoy the indian culture. all in all, a
complete heterogeneous world would be boring and they would
be no need to travel.
kid, the world IS a 'big melting pot', but you'll find
indians in India though. I just don't know why you don't
find so many native americans (redskins) in the US...
North Africans come to EU because of their local economy:
tell them that you want to see the Europe you've seen on 40s
and 50s movies, that they're wasting your freaky holyday,
that is 'boring'. I can't do it.
World keeps changing, and we can only catch a picture of it,
the PRESENT; even when it'll be totally different, will be
typical. People move and world changes, and we're lucky it
happens so that not only geography is typical but also
history is. We always need to travel.
please tell me you are. i can't believe anyone would have
that kind of retarded attitude genuinely.
crime is a matter of definition, and family patterns as
well as cultural backgrounds are decisive for that
definition.
q: how to deal with people who are aggressive/ offending/
threatening, as well at home as abroad, when you cannot get
out of their way ?
Live and let live. Make this happen, BUT HOW ???
So, I'm half-Asian and half-Scandinavian? How exactly would
you classify me? My hair's too light to be Asian and it's
not blonde, so I'm not your typical Scandinavian. I'm
taller than most Asians yet slightly shorter than most
Scandinavians. My eyes are light brown, but they're shaped
like a cross between those of Asians and Scandinavians. Now
you tell me whether I should be classified as Asian or
white?
It is amazing that in 1999 someone could so easily equate
skin color with likelihood of committing crime. Has Brian
ever thought there might be other factors involved in the
statistics that we see. Remember, Thomas Jefferson,
supposedly our enlightened ex-President of the US, thought
that people with dark skin smelled differently than people
with white skin which helped to reinforce the theory that
they were more animal than human. Always question anyone
trying to use statistics to prove a point.
It is amazing that in 1999 someone could so easily equate
skin color with likelihood of committing crime. Has Brian
ever thought there might be other factors involved in the
statistics that we see. Remember, Thomas Jefferson,
supposedly our enlightened ex-President of the US, thought
that people with dark skin smelled differently than people
with white skin which helped to reinforce the theory that
they were more animal than human. Always question anyone
trying to use statistics to prove a point.
I hope this is understandable to the average reader,
because its really very simple:
1.The poor people in a community are more likely to commit a
crime
2.Usually because of fewer resources available duri ng their
upbringing, and the fact that USA is a very differentiated
community. Sosial differences are increasing all the time.
3. Skin colour is totally irrellevant, all you have to do to
prove this is to compare people of different races, skin
colours, or whatever is bugging your racist little mind at
the time.
4. You will find that its a matter of poor communities,
fucked-up childhoods, and a system that first and foremost
punishes, without treating or trying to understand.
5.Behind every right-wing politician or redneck with the
ability to read or at least watch TV, there lies a
statistic. A nice word .....
When I wrote that the U.S. is a very differentiated
society I meant the fact that the state is not doing much to
eliminate social differences. For example by supporting
children of poor families. Or helping young criminals out by
giving them mild sentences and a chance to educate
themselves, or get a decent job.
Just because you are Jewish does not mean that you are not a
Nazi. It is not your ethnicity that determines
under which group of idiots you fall in (e.g. Nazism) but
rather the lack of thinking. So yes, you are a Nazi Jew.
Get it? Don't think you do.
Well, Its al about integration, creating a "melting pot".
That is what I was told when I was in the US as an
exchangestudent. But the thing is that, integration is not
happening, people live whith thier own. The state provides
social building for imigrant, and the locals dont want to
know of them, but they will when they start do make a
sound, and they all make a fuss about it. Increse your
tolerance and decrease tour dobbelstandart...........!
For France my country... we have Champion of the World with
Blacks Arabics and Whites. It's wonderfull. You dont think
so.
At the risk of sounding like a pig-Fuck off Brian you're a
rascist ass. As a citizen of the U.S. I do understand the
statistics that you have so neatly rattled off. However,
you have established a false causality between race and
crime. Race does not cause high crime rates. Yes, as stated
earlier in the tree, the facts seem evident. But take off
the blinders and try to see things for what they are. I am
a trained academic in this area and I think that you are
spewing the same rascist crap that your ilk has always
spread to foster intergroup hatreds and scapegoating.
Thanks for the soapbox and I'll gladly debate anyone e-mail
on this.
Cheers-
M.
to read what Brian wrote. Ignorance gotta be one of our
biggest problems. A culture can only evolve if mixes with
new things. Hence in order for any of us to eveolev we need
to mix, we need to respect each other and undertsnad each
other. And you Brian, need to see thhing from a little
deeper and more educated perspective than your own. When
you say "what are the European doing?" are you aware of the
amount of people you are referring to here? We are talking
hundereds of millions of people here. You only mention two
- two white very Westernizes society. Do you know how many
refugees Macedonia is taking right now or Albania?
Do you know that in my hometown in southern Sweden every
fourt person is of non-Swedsih background. I feel fortunate
to have it that way. We pay on eof the highest taxes in the
world and we are able to help people that are much worse
off than we are. We can learn so much from this new
influence; about ourselves as individuals and about our
society and others. Did you know that before they had
already contemplated building the Athens ,which seems to be
considered the cradle of civilization by many American
educational institution, there were already universities in
Timbuktu, Mali and kingdoms in Nubia and Ghana. Egypt was a
very mixed society due to its geographical location with
different tribes and people passing through it on their
trade routes. Hence, it is not about color or race or
ethnicity - it is about money,and attitudes and education.
Good luck with re-educating yourself and getting a more
open mind and a sense of perspective, Brian
Brian
All I can say is well done! Not because I agree with
anything you said - that's all complete nonsense. But what
I do admire is your ability to generate so many responses
from so many people that feel compelled to state the
obvious i.e that you are a bit of an idiot. Then again,
the strange thin here is, is that you probably don't even
exist and your message was written by a black undergraduate
as part of a social studies experiment. So everone else
out there, save your stress and don't bother.
Race should never be the determining factor for any
immigration programme. A person's worth should not be
determined by a mere accident of birth (which is exactly
what a person's race is). It is totally illogical to say
that the colour of a person's skin determines their
propensity to commit crimes.
One should be very careful with statistics. They are
heavily skewed by the fact that people from lower socio-
economic backgrounds are more likely to be caught and
convicted for what they do. Therefore this does not mean
that other groups in society don't commit crimes it just
means that they haven't been caught or because they could
afford to use the court system to get themselves off!!!
It is making an issue out of race that is responsible for
most of the problems in the world today!
After spending hours reading the above posts, I'm very happy
that we're not living in a Lonely Planet !
I don't give that Brain a shit !
An Asian from Hong Kong.
Let me guess.. You are wearing a pointy white hat and hang
around with boys that like to burn things and sleep with
their sisters.
Maybe you should move farther from the border.
Dear Brian,
Don't know why I am commenting as I am really looking for
accomodation in Helsinki. Anyway your letter caught my eye
and I just could not resist with my comments.
You must really enjoy this attention. I really think you
have an early case of senile dementia and are regressing
rapidly like your other supporters. Wake up Brian, its these
Asians who control buisness, research ..............you name
it its them everywhere because I think they have the brains
and they work HARD!!!!
And me I am an Asian: pretty, light skinned but nevertheless
an East Indian or Paki or Brownie. What do I do? I am a
Research Associate, MD in the Departemnt of Psychiatry in
the University of Alberta. So whenever you think that Asians
have nothing to contribute think of me. Canada gave me a
chance and here I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To all Brians:
Remember immigration history in France: first, there were
Spanish, Portuguese and Italian immigrants. As soon as they
arrived in France, and though they are white, everything,
every crime was their fault according to the French people
who think like you and yours, Brian. Then Algerians and
Black Africans arrived (because French people came to
colonize Algeria and part of Africa, don't forget that).
Then the criminal was the Algerian or the Black, not the
Spanish, nor the Portuguese or the Italian. Then Asian
people came to join the Arab and the Black and they became
the criminal too.
Turkish people in France are not pointed out, they are
working-hard-people. But in Germany, Turkish people are the
criminals, just as Arab, Black and Asian are criminal for
the French.
Every hosting country has its scapegoat, that's all.
Never in my life that such a wack post gets such response as
this one. Thank goodness I represent fairminded people who
are tolerent and nice. In Colorado, people like you murder
and maim all because you think the Blacks,Arabs and others
cause the crime in the world. In the US every one of those
school shootings are caused by WHITE males who are spoiled
and rejected. Check yourself and repond!
Thanks for warning us Brian! Bye bye.
I wonder if Brian was from Littleton, Colorado, and shot himself recently.
I immigrated from eastern european country to US 1 year ago,
i'm tring very hard to get my life together, I have two
jobs, small apartment in so called black neigborhood and i'm
the only one so far on the street who is white. I have never
seen a seroious crime in my life in my old country only
heard about it. Every day a take a train(metro to work) I'm
the only person who is white all the time, I'm tring to be
nice and talk and smile but most of the people look at me
very strangly (can't define it). I was attacked 4 times but
all what I lost was a wallet with 10 dollars and etc. My
aprtmenrt was robbed 3 times in 1 year, police tells me to
move out to better part of the city but I'm still saving ,
just can't afford it. I see cars stolen, people atteacked
every few days, burning houses from time to time etc.
I like different people (ethniclly) it's natural curiosity
but as much as I'm tring to get close I sense some sort of
resentment from them. So my point is that racism goes both
ways that's all.
people are people
If Native Americans had a stricter immigration policy
in the 1500's. There would be no whites or blacks
Thus no crime, ignorant attitudes, eurocentric ideas
After O.J. it's not color, its economics
Remove ones skin, how do you tell a white from a black or
asian
Come on Brian we all have more in common than we have
differences
We all breath the same air need the same things
without access to the same resources
we only see our differences
without justice there is crime
we have all we need to make it work
the opposite is chaos,
Canada is one of the most multicultural countries in the
world, yet it doesn't have a high crime rate. Any comments
Brian?
although it is doubtful that anyone will read my thoughts at
the end of such a long list i felt so infuriated by you
that i had to jump in
did it occur to you that if minorities were not oppressed by
bigoted racist fucks like you then they would not feel the
need to be violent, personally i am white, practically aryan
and a pacifist but i would give you a good smack in the gob
if i met you now.
Unless your ancestors were Native Americans, then chances
are they arrived on US soil as nothing more than refugees
themselves. Oh that our forefathers had seen fit to adopt
the restrictions you so ardently espouse.
i'm not black but i'd shoot you.
The more time I spend reading this page the more of a loser
I feel, I would hate to become a loser like Brian, a loser,
A LOSER, A LIFE-LESS moron, Brian has no life so he gets
involved with everyone elses, and considering he is too weak
to love he must hate, truly a sad loser.. indeed. Whats my
excuse?...well I'm God for Christs sake, all your lives are
my business. End racism or it will put an end to you.
A better life is all these immigrants want and they deserve
the same chance as every other human being on the planet.We
can`t give the native americans back their lands and way of
life nor can we resurrect the native population of
Hispanola but the least we can do is move forward together
with justice and liberty for ALL and my advice to you brian
is to get someone to take that big heavy book of statistics
you`re so fond of to the top of the empire state building
and drop it on your head
Which happens to be the capital of Angola.Try 300 years of
mis-rule by Portugal the only colonial power even Cecil
Rhodes wouldn`t send back to Africa, a bloody civil war,
Economic dis-intergration of what was already one of the
least developed countries in sub-Saharan Africa and a 20
year long fight against insurgents by a marxist government
backed by cuban troops
somewhere therin lies your truth
Sweden is a stable country. Angola, thanks to Europeans
probably never will be
maybe you should keep those ideas in america where you have
60 juveniles under the age of 18 on death row contravening
international law, my arse is it the land of the free. the
reason we are engaged in a war is because of bigots like you
who cannot respect other peoples beliefs and live in harmony
Firstly your country will accept practically anyone who will
swear to follow the "American Way" of life.
Secondly your are a damned ignorant person who can't see the
connection between the poverty of immigrants (yes even
generations down the line) and crime, NOT colour and crime.
I'm white but I feel certain that the asian guy to my left
is probably feeling less disposed towards vilolent crime
than I am right now after reading your stupid fucking
advice!
You're all wrong.
Crime has always existed.
Crime will always exist.
High crime areas have always existed.
High crime areas will always exist.
If you want to blame these FACTS on race, religion or
European expansionist history, then that's your problem.
Not one of you has suggested any constructive methods of
curing these problems. Dreams about everybody living
together in harmony are just that, dreams. It's education
and stable family environments that discourage children
from growing up to commit crime, regardless of their ethnic
or social background.
And before any social workers throw their arms in the air
shouting about social deprivation causing crime, I'll call
you a bunch of fuckwits now, to save myselfd having to come
back later.
Hi, I don't know if anyone will get this, but a recent post upset me similar to this one...i think it's post 183, or around there, the post is about an interracial couple and if they will have any problems...i was offended by "brutha's" post and only one other person besides me has responded...check it out..it's probably not as controversial as this...but i'm sick of being hated for being american....the hatred some people have for americans is needlessly intense and really wears one down...thanks.