warwar or jawjaw?

This topic was created by alternato!
[Thu 13 May, 21:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

This test consists of one (1) multiple-choice question (so
you better get it right!) Here's a list of the countries
that the US has bombed since the end of World War II:

China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991-99
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
In how many of these instances did a democratic government,
respectful of human rights, occur as a direct result?
Choose one of the following:

(a) 0
(b) zero
(c) none
(d) not a one
(e) zip
(f) a whole number strictly between -1 and +1
(g) zilch

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  1. You are wrong! Added by: NATO
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 0:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Peru is definitely a democratic country. Their President is
    from Japan and very American in his thinking.



  2. thanks... Added by: alternato!
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 1:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Thanks for your brilliant input. Your dubious post only
    questions one of historian William Blum's list of 22
    countries (which has, by the way, excluded Bosnia 1995).
    With that post you can now tune out with the comfort of
    knowing that you've blown away what I was arguing...



  3. ... and Added by: alternato!
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 1:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You're not calling Peru the USA's only puppet state in
    Latin America, are you?



  4. Of course not! Added by: NATO
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 3:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    The CIA is all over Latin American fighting wars, unknown
    by most Americans. Since America is the only super power
    left in the world, the administration feels obligated to be
    the world's policeman. Whether or not their doing the right
    thing is a debate that will last forever. But as to the
    latest war, most people think that ethnic cleansing is
    evil.
    (By the way, are you Serbian, Russian or Chinese?)



  5. It's time to ... Added by: Bob Dole
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 4:22 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    SEND IN GROUND TROOPS! THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SECURE A
    DEMOCRATIC NATION, RESPECTFUL OF HUMAN RIGHTS! OR EASIER,
    TAKE OUT MILOSEVIC!



  6. Wat to do? Added by: Concernd
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 4:36 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Alternato -
    What idea do have you to stop the kriminal acts against the
    Kosovo Albanians?



  7. An eye... Added by: Ghandi
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 10:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Bill Clinton
    should have gotten off his fat ass and gone to Yugo himself
    and negotiated a real peace deal. Not send some gopher to
    deliver an ultimatum on an occupation of Yugo.
    It is time to be clever and stop being stupid little
    destructive monkeys running around the planet. Throw a huge
    ass party in Kosovo. Play a concert for millions. Invite
    the Pope. Fat ass Clinton can work off his pudge by pushing
    around his bubble.
    If you are honest with yourself you see that all 3 sides
    have committed atrocities. The Serb police, the KLA, NATO.
    Bring them all to the Hague and make them peel potatoes for
    the rest of their lives. FREE THE PEOPLE!!!
    We don't want war anymore!!!
    The root of all evil is the need for survival. The serbs
    the KLA the Kosovars all have no money for sustinance
    needs. If we just gave them all the money that we wasted on
    the war machine. We could have averted destroying the
    infrastructure and many lives.
    WE MUST BE CREATIVE!!!
    It is time to act. Organize and bring millions to Kosovo
    for a concert. People will follow, you will see. The answer
    is the people. All governments are political and
    corrupt...they all serve the elite.
    END ALL ACTS OF VIOLENCE
    Once again as Ghandi said, "An eye for an eye and
    evreyone's blind."



  8. Shut up all of you Added by: !
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 13:56 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Posting your rubbish here is a boring irrelevance. It does
    not assist travellers. It does not assist people in Kosovo
    or elsewhere. Please stop. It is boring me.



  9. jawjaw not warwar Added by: alternato!
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 20:10 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You guys are hopeless, really hopeless. Nearly everything
    put to me was already evident in the original topic,
    "warwar or jawjaw?" - from the topic name to my name to the
    topic's body. I guess I'll have to spell things out for
    those of you still struggling. So here goes: Firstly, I'd
    like to address the post by "!". Make a constructive
    contribution or go away. I can tell both "!" and "Concernd"
    that it's better to hold debates in any arena than to do
    what the topic proves has not worked. Secondly, despite 8
    poor, victimised countries south of the USA border being
    listed above, I excuse myself for the digression at post
    number 3 that drew more attention than intended to Latin
    America. That brings me to the third point, also concerning
    "!". This topic is of interest to travellers. The reason? A
    good example is that people visiting this site may want to
    travel through a peaceful ex-Yugoslavia, so it's in their
    (this is when you use the word their, "NATO") interests to
    contribute to a solution to the region's crises. Another
    point in reference to "NATO's" yearning for the USA - that
    wolf in the sheep's clothing of moral "world's policeman" -
    to kill innocent folks in destitute, sovereign countries.
    You can not tell me that that is what really influences
    someone with dubious morals like Clinton when they are
    making a decision to start a war. It is also widely
    acknowledged that NATO's bombing precipitated the refugee
    exodus... do not get me wrong, I do not mean caused.
    Finally I'd like to suggest that "Bob Dole" is an obvious
    victim of indoctrination and clearly scared of a bit of
    jawjaw. Bob's seems to have been following current affairs
    very closely, with all his hindsight knowledge of NATO's
    failings... etc. Thanks for your deep contribution. But I
    must mention that I find those characters in capitals so
    menacing. A thought: Clinton risks impeachment if he breaks
    the USA "presidential order" preventing USA heads of state
    from assassinating other heads of state.



  10. YEAH!! Added by: Stomin' Norm'
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 20:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Yeah, people!! I say we bomb the fuck out of the Chetnik
    bastards. Gives our big boys in boots something to do,
    instead of playing spot the submarine in big soapy baths!!
    I LOVE THE US OF A!!



  11. and another thing... Added by: Auditor
    [Timestamp: Sat 15 May, 0:36 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    you forgot Germany 1943-45 ..... Hitler was democratically
    elected too



  12. Everybody just chill...ok? Added by: William Hague. (verypoorstudent@yahoo.com)
    [Timestamp: Sat 22 May, 5:16 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hey lads and lasses.
    I think that you all need to just chill out and calm down.
    Whats all this cyber arguing going to to for us all, other
    than make us angry, stressed and prejudiced? huh? Are you
    all with me on this one?
    You know, a little love can go a long way. "OOOhhhh, Luurve
    can build a bridge, luuuuurve can build a bridge betweeeeen
    us aaaalll. Yeah Yeah. It can make us alllll, strong and
    Taaaall."
    I personaly think that all this war and shit is bad news.
    It's not good for us. So, what Clinton, Slobba, and company
    should do is sort it out over a game of cards, or something.
    So just chill. It is after all a loverly day outside, and
    everythings cool.



  13. PISS WEAK.. Added by: anti yank
    [Timestamp: Sat 22 May, 10:07 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I agree with the original poster, the yanks has only big
    mouth, they start the war by bombing innocent people, but
    they are shit weak morons when it comes to groung war, they
    think they are superpower, yes 10km up they hiding behind
    the clouds and droping boms everywhere, killing innocent
    people. but when it comes to ground war they are nothing,
    they started so many wars by bombing but lost all wars on
    the ground even with nnATO groudtrops help.
    aMERIKA HAS TO START A WAR EVERY FEW YEARS OTHERWISE THEIR
    ECONOMY GOES DOWNHAVE TO PRODUCE GUNS PLANES TANK FIRST TO
    USE IT AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE SECONDLY TO SELL THEIR
    PRODUCTS TO THE COUNTRYS WHICH ARE BOMBED BY THEM .
    PROFIT, PROFIT, PROFIT THAT IS ALL THEY WANT IN THE CASE OF
    IRAQ THEY WANTED OIL, IN STH AMERIKA THEY WANT THE DRUGS, SO
    THEY CAN POISON THEIR OWN YOUTH, IN AFRICA THEY WANTED THE
    GOLD AND DIAMOND MINES, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER LITTLE
    COUNTRYES WHO WERE CRYING FOR HELP ?/ HUNGARY,
    CHEKOSLOVAKIA, POLAND, ?? THEY HAD NOTHING THERE SO OUR BIG
    BROTHER JUST SHIT ON THEM .
    now , they want the balkans why nothing there no oil no
    gold just poor people .
    Stay away , mr clinton let them sort out their problem or go
    in by full force and start a ww3. You do not waNT IT ?? WHY
    BECAUSE YOU COME OUT AZ A LOOSER AGAIN AS YOU DID TIME
    AFTER TIMEIN KOREA VIETNAM , AFRICA, IRAQ IT IS PROVEN
    THE YANKS HAS BIG MOUTH WE ARE THE PEACE KEEPERS OF THE
    WORLD YES FROM 10KM UP BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GROUND WAR
    YOUARE NOTHING YOUR SOLDIERS GOES INTO FIGHTS FULL WITH DOPE
    INTOXICATED WITH HEROIN , AND NO WONDER YOU LOOSE
    EVERYTHING, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BIG CAPITALIST PROFIT
    MAKING DRUGUSER, SEXMANIAC LIKE MR CLINTON
    MAKE LOVE NOT WAR , WELL DO IT FUCK YOUR YANKY MOTHERS
    SISTERS BROTHERS BUT STOP BOMBING THE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN
    THE BALKANS




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