This test consists of one (1) multiple-choice question (so
you better get it right!) Here's a list of the countries
that the US has bombed since the end of World War II:
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991-99
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
In how many of these instances did a democratic government,
respectful of human rights, occur as a direct result?
Choose one of the following:
(a) 0
(b) zero
(c) none
(d) not a one
(e) zip
(f) a whole number strictly between -1 and +1
(g) zilch
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Peru is definitely a democratic country. Their President is
from Japan and very American in his thinking.
Thanks for your brilliant input. Your dubious post only
questions one of historian William Blum's list of 22
countries (which has, by the way, excluded Bosnia 1995).
With that post you can now tune out with the comfort of
knowing that you've blown away what I was arguing...
You're not calling Peru the USA's only puppet state in
Latin America, are you?
The CIA is all over Latin American fighting wars, unknown
by most Americans. Since America is the only super power
left in the world, the administration feels obligated to be
the world's policeman. Whether or not their doing the right
thing is a debate that will last forever. But as to the
latest war, most people think that ethnic cleansing is
evil.
(By the way, are you Serbian, Russian or Chinese?)
SEND IN GROUND TROOPS! THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SECURE A
DEMOCRATIC NATION, RESPECTFUL OF HUMAN RIGHTS! OR EASIER,
TAKE OUT MILOSEVIC!
Alternato -
What idea do have you to stop the kriminal acts against the
Kosovo Albanians?
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Bill Clinton
should have gotten off his fat ass and gone to Yugo himself
and negotiated a real peace deal. Not send some gopher to
deliver an ultimatum on an occupation of Yugo.
It is time to be clever and stop being stupid little
destructive monkeys running around the planet. Throw a huge
ass party in Kosovo. Play a concert for millions. Invite
the Pope. Fat ass Clinton can work off his pudge by pushing
around his bubble.
If you are honest with yourself you see that all 3 sides
have committed atrocities. The Serb police, the KLA, NATO.
Bring them all to the Hague and make them peel potatoes for
the rest of their lives. FREE THE PEOPLE!!!
We don't want war anymore!!!
The root of all evil is the need for survival. The serbs
the KLA the Kosovars all have no money for sustinance
needs. If we just gave them all the money that we wasted on
the war machine. We could have averted destroying the
infrastructure and many lives.
WE MUST BE CREATIVE!!!
It is time to act. Organize and bring millions to Kosovo
for a concert. People will follow, you will see. The answer
is the people. All governments are political and
corrupt...they all serve the elite.
END ALL ACTS OF VIOLENCE
Once again as Ghandi said, "An eye for an eye and
evreyone's blind."
Posting your rubbish here is a boring irrelevance. It does
not assist travellers. It does not assist people in Kosovo
or elsewhere. Please stop. It is boring me.
You guys are hopeless, really hopeless. Nearly everything
put to me was already evident in the original topic,
"warwar or jawjaw?" - from the topic name to my name to the
topic's body. I guess I'll have to spell things out for
those of you still struggling. So here goes: Firstly, I'd
like to address the post by "!". Make a constructive
contribution or go away. I can tell both "!" and "Concernd"
that it's better to hold debates in any arena than to do
what the topic proves has not worked. Secondly, despite 8
poor, victimised countries south of the USA border being
listed above, I excuse myself for the digression at post
number 3 that drew more attention than intended to Latin
America. That brings me to the third point, also concerning
"!". This topic is of interest to travellers. The reason? A
good example is that people visiting this site may want to
travel through a peaceful ex-Yugoslavia, so it's in their
(this is when you use the word their, "NATO") interests to
contribute to a solution to the region's crises. Another
point in reference to "NATO's" yearning for the USA - that
wolf in the sheep's clothing of moral "world's policeman" -
to kill innocent folks in destitute, sovereign countries.
You can not tell me that that is what really influences
someone with dubious morals like Clinton when they are
making a decision to start a war. It is also widely
acknowledged that NATO's bombing precipitated the refugee
exodus... do not get me wrong, I do not mean caused.
Finally I'd like to suggest that "Bob Dole" is an obvious
victim of indoctrination and clearly scared of a bit of
jawjaw. Bob's seems to have been following current affairs
very closely, with all his hindsight knowledge of NATO's
failings... etc. Thanks for your deep contribution. But I
must mention that I find those characters in capitals so
menacing. A thought: Clinton risks impeachment if he breaks
the USA "presidential order" preventing USA heads of state
from assassinating other heads of state.
Yeah, people!! I say we bomb the fuck out of the Chetnik
bastards. Gives our big boys in boots something to do,
instead of playing spot the submarine in big soapy baths!!
I LOVE THE US OF A!!
you forgot Germany 1943-45 ..... Hitler was democratically
elected too
Hey lads and lasses.
I think that you all need to just chill out and calm down.
Whats all this cyber arguing going to to for us all, other
than make us angry, stressed and prejudiced? huh? Are you
all with me on this one?
You know, a little love can go a long way. "OOOhhhh, Luurve
can build a bridge, luuuuurve can build a bridge betweeeeen
us aaaalll. Yeah Yeah. It can make us alllll, strong and
Taaaall."
I personaly think that all this war and shit is bad news.
It's not good for us. So, what Clinton, Slobba, and company
should do is sort it out over a game of cards, or something.
So just chill. It is after all a loverly day outside, and
everythings cool.
I agree with the original poster, the yanks has only big
mouth, they start the war by bombing innocent people, but
they are shit weak morons when it comes to groung war, they
think they are superpower, yes 10km up they hiding behind
the clouds and droping boms everywhere, killing innocent
people. but when it comes to ground war they are nothing,
they started so many wars by bombing but lost all wars on
the ground even with nnATO groudtrops help.
aMERIKA HAS TO START A WAR EVERY FEW YEARS OTHERWISE THEIR
ECONOMY GOES DOWNHAVE TO PRODUCE GUNS PLANES TANK FIRST TO
USE IT AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE SECONDLY TO SELL THEIR
PRODUCTS TO THE COUNTRYS WHICH ARE BOMBED BY THEM .
PROFIT, PROFIT, PROFIT THAT IS ALL THEY WANT IN THE CASE OF
IRAQ THEY WANTED OIL, IN STH AMERIKA THEY WANT THE DRUGS, SO
THEY CAN POISON THEIR OWN YOUTH, IN AFRICA THEY WANTED THE
GOLD AND DIAMOND MINES, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER LITTLE
COUNTRYES WHO WERE CRYING FOR HELP ?/ HUNGARY,
CHEKOSLOVAKIA, POLAND, ?? THEY HAD NOTHING THERE SO OUR BIG
BROTHER JUST SHIT ON THEM .
now , they want the balkans why nothing there no oil no
gold just poor people .
Stay away , mr clinton let them sort out their problem or go
in by full force and start a ww3. You do not waNT IT ?? WHY
BECAUSE YOU COME OUT AZ A LOOSER AGAIN AS YOU DID TIME
AFTER TIMEIN KOREA VIETNAM , AFRICA, IRAQ IT IS PROVEN
THE YANKS HAS BIG MOUTH WE ARE THE PEACE KEEPERS OF THE
WORLD YES FROM 10KM UP BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GROUND WAR
YOUARE NOTHING YOUR SOLDIERS GOES INTO FIGHTS FULL WITH DOPE
INTOXICATED WITH HEROIN , AND NO WONDER YOU LOOSE
EVERYTHING, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BIG CAPITALIST PROFIT
MAKING DRUGUSER, SEXMANIAC LIKE MR CLINTON
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR , WELL DO IT FUCK YOUR YANKY MOTHERS
SISTERS BROTHERS BUT STOP BOMBING THE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN
THE BALKANS