What is the difference between the situation in Sri Lanka
and the situation in Yugoslavia? Would India therefore have
a right according to your logic to unleash its own blood
bath in Sri Lanka? or should bombing Sri Lanka be left to
the ruling military dictactors (ie. USA) to use in future
as a reinforcement of its "buy our weapons of we will
create havoc in your region" policy.
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And everyone knows what that means! The TTYC because a
"logic-free zone"!
Have a ball, y'all!
India cannot waste ammunition on Sri Lanka. It is needed
for the war in Kashmir and for the upcoming nuclear war
with Pakistan.
Pal, why do you take a liberal/historical approach to
foreigh policy and then not even address the most essential
facts. Siding against NATO in this instance is siding with
China, and is akin to siding with Hitler. 'The Jews moved
into our homeland, and we know have the right to remove them
anyway we can...' Is that your party line? Do you greet
your friends with a hearty 'hiel'? Hmmm, I thought so.
And just so you know - Kosovo and Sri Lanka have nearly
nothing in common. Back to the books with you Genius!
Thanks ,now i understand ,it is just bomb who ever you want
to without any logical reason.
oohhhhh!!!!!!??/?????
i thiought you said FISHMONGER!!!!!!!
scusssssssssseeeeeeee meeeeeeeeeeeeee
pleeeeeeeeeaseeeeeee
Check out a little thing called history. In fact, under
Rajiv Ghandi, India did intervene militarily in the Sri
Lankan civil war. The resulting resentment by Tamils in
India itself was the proximate cause of Rajiv's
assassination. I would like to hear your logic, curious, as
to how the American action in Kosovo is, as you imply, an
attempt by the US to promote weapons sales. Best of luck.
Anyone noticed the correlation between the DowJones, the
euro rate and the bombings?
As the strikes intensified the euro steadily went down and
the DJ - up. When the bombings were paused/russian peace
talks started the DJ and the euro stabilized before going
further up and down respectively.
You don't believe they're going to use this war to promote
weapons? Is that TTYC that makes people this stupid?
Oh, poor Albanian children!!! Oh, who else can help the
poor fellows but the NATO!!! Oh, God, what these Serbs are
doing to them!!! Anyone helped the poor Tutsi children?
What about those Kurdish children? (We all know the CNN are
wussies and shit in the pants when they are sent to Africa
or Middle East).
Get in a mess with Russia and China? For what? Albania?
But you know what, lads? The war is right. The US wins
financially. The DJ is high as never before. The increased
weapons sales will cover all the expenditures.
You'll all just be better off. Not the Brits, of course,
but who cares for them anyway? So it's OK. No need to
worry. Just take care.
This is a holy war (for the USA americans). The stock
market is going from better to best, and everyone is happy
that all the miserable Kossovars that were tortured by the
Serbian army will be saved from the pains of this life by
going to the heaven or to a concentration camp.
There was a rumour that the american people have no sense
of history.
If they had, they would not let their governments create
one dictator after the other, in order to make a war with
him the next decade.
Terrific turn-out this weekend...just remember to clean-up
after you have finished, and make sure you're back at the
looney-bin by your 9:00am thorazine!
Then get real tricky and ask yourself what are the
"differences" between the Tamil insurrection and what went
on in Bosnia and Kosovo.
It is going to be tough, I know coolio, but just try dammit!
Hint, if Sri Lanka did try and ethnically clear the
northwest and Jaffna P., most people feel that India would
have went to war with Sri Lanka. This is NOT why India got
militarily involved!!!!! WOW, we are getting complex now El
Coolio. They did it because the Tamils who WANT THEIR OWN
COUNTRY IN NORTH S.LANKA were getting arms from Tamils in
Tamil Nadu province, and S Lanka was having a tough time
dealing with it. In effect they were supporting the Lankan
goverment against ethnic Indians. Gosh, confusing huh!!
Which explains why Rajiv became toast.
It is best at this time Coolio to just not post again, as
you have a habit of doing on your topics. It is an amazing
world out there coolio.
Greek Women. I haven't a clue what you are going on about.
The one dictator that the Yankee imperialist running dogs
did not create was Milosevitch. I hate to let the air out
of your theory but COME ON - I expect a better conspiracy
theory than that!
Do you also have information as to why the Indian
government would have opposed its own people in Sri Lanka?
And also where the high quality plastic explosives that
were used in the assination of Rajiv came from?
Look has it ever occurred to you to actually go out and
read about these events before using them in an ideological
tautology of your construction? Like those big words? I bet
you could get the info on computer-net if heading to the
library seems repugnant. I have to avoid the supervisor at
present but will return after hours, if only as charity for
the lame.
It is as I suspected. Perhaps You could tell us how much
they are paying you Mr. Observer.
Not enough and that is an Issue. Without getting back into
all the historical antecedents of the problem - yes the
British Raj plays a large part! By 87 SL had embarked on an
aggressive attack on the NE and Jaffna. They also tried to
isolate susupected LTTE areas. This lead to charges of
starving the population to flush out the tigers. During
this time Indian military jets dropped food and medical
supplies. Luckly at this point both Rajiv and the SL
PMinister came up with an autonomy package for the NE and
Jaffna - where the Tamil Majority lives. Indian troops were
used to monitor the cease fire and disarming of Tigers -
not the SL force. They didn't trust the SL force. Why Rajiv
did this is a moot point. The Indian troops got out when
the Tigers said screw it!! We want an independent country
and the war resumed. Many observers felt that the LTTE had
too much to lose in becoming a political party, better keep
on with the fight for total independence. Still at it too,
couple years back they bombed one of the holiest of
Bugghist shrines - not one of their bright and shinning
moments. Now Coolio if the Sri Lankan force had went in and
shelled the village, killed most men of military age, raped
the women then gave em boats to sail to India and Tamil
Nadu province. I think India would have invaded, in twenty
seconds, and the world would have a collective yawn.
But hey take a look at how Bangledesh was created - it was
East Pakistan until the Awami league won the local
elections and wanted autonomy - West Pakistan sent in THEIR
troops, after a couple hundred thousand were killed (yes a
good massacre! kinda like the body count in Bosnia) in
massacres, and 10 million fled across the border into India
- India declared war on the soldiers, invaded and the war
was over on 20 days. East Pakistan was no more, Bangledesh
was set up as an independent country - through Indian
military intervention.
Now read a little history and spare us your pontificating
about things you have little to no information about.
Curio is pegged. Time to punch eject and on to the next
topic post.
Thanks for the information. You still missed the point where di
d the high quality plastic explosives that were used in the
Rajiv assaination come from? The main point is this, The
USA sells large amounts of arms ... these arms are used to
kill people for what ever concocted reason (more people ,I
might add, than any drug pusher could ever dream of killing)
to me this makes USA an accomplas in the mass murder
that these weapons produce and a major exporter of death. If
this wasn't enough the USA is seen encouraging the
recipients of the arms to actually use the arms to kill people.
The difference between the people who are killed by drugs
and those who are killed by arms is that those who are killed
by weapons do not pull the trigger themselves.(I am not a
druggy, but the USA seems to push need to eradicate the
export of drugs when accepting the destruction caused by
their arms exports.)
Further more, my concern is as one, who in the future may be
unfortunate enough to be one of the very large number of
innocent bystanders who are killed in the power plays .This
to me is a very real threat, when one adds up not only all the
people who have been killed by weapons directly fired by
citizens of the USA but also all the people who have been
killed by weapons produced in the USA ,the reality of the
possibility is seen. I will not be satisfied until the international
trade in arms is considered in the same light that is now
shone on the trade in narcotic drugs i.e. very heavy penalties
for the resulting mass murders that it creates.When you can
argue that arms do not kill people then we can continue with
this discussion.Bye
Sorry can't argue that arms don't kill people Coolio - end
of discussion.
You think that they bought the G4 in Rock Springs WY ?
Could be for all I know. You gotta love those Tamil Hindu
Terror troops. The bomb was in flowers that a women was
trying to give to Rajiv. Female suicide bombers, cool.
Here is a good one to ponder before your off to your next
post. The US is the largest arms exporter in the world,
FACT. Which I'm sure makes you feel pretty good Coolio - in
spite of your moral concerns. But if you factor out the big
ticket items - Jet planes, radar, anti aircraft, military
personel vehicles, tanks. You would find that in the small
to meduim arms market those highly civilized euro countries
outsell the US 3/1,4/1 6/1 ? France, Italy, the UK Germany
and Chek. rep plus former SSR does a hefty trade. These
weapons end up in those small simmering conflicts around
the globe. Obvioulsy Turkey uses her planes to blast at the
Kurds etc but where does Milosevitch and the Bosnian
muslims get their weapons? The Armenians and Azeris? The
Sudanese, the south Sudan rebels, Congo and anti Congo
rebels - The varous west african wars that rage on. Iraq
and Iran (the US and Israel sent spare parts to the
Ayatollah, and sold to Iraq - but where is 90% of their
current arsenal come from?) The Tamils and S lanka. Even
Indonsesia is supplied by the UK and Aus after the US cut
the "big ticket items 4 years ago. Where does the Burmese-
Myannamar boys get theirs (well europe and south east asia
- Singapore Business groups helped build an arms facility a
couple years back - also NKorea and China). Algeria ...
How many pictures have you seen with troops carrying a M16
- AK47 are the infantry weapon of choice. This in no way
lessons the US blame - where you see those US weapons is in
Central and South America due in large part to Reagans
communist jihad of the 80's. It's just that their are a lot
of dealers out there. The US makes their big money selling
F-16s and the like to Saudi Arabia, the gulf states,
Taiwan, South Korea etc. Vary rarely do you here about F-
16s involved in the Kashmir fighting or the like (India
would immediatly declre war on Pakistan) No it is small
arms and commando squads. It is an interesting world out
there Coolio, but it is probably best to ignore those
facts. All they do is get one CONFUSED, not good for one in
your idealogical position. Later
My idealogical position was tenable until the NATO military
dictatorship deciced to buck the system and impose their
destruction on Kosova.When I say buck the system I am
refering to the absence of United Nations support for the
bombing. This criminal and as has been described "barbaric "
act has set the possibility of a world at peace back by
decades. And when the major suppliers of arms are seen to be
at blame any attempt to justify the bombing for any reason other
than to sell more arms into the distant future looks very weak
indeed. I can wake up in the morning and look at my face in
the mirror, can you?
Excellent Coolio - just when I was frankly scared that an
intelligent series of posts might be created! Stop the
madness. You are back to your obsessions with a vengance
this morning!
So was Indias invasion of East Pak supported by the UN? Was
the siezure of the Falklands by A by the UN. Was the
conquest of Kuwait by I.? Or the invasion of Timor after
the Portugese pulled out and Frelimo won the elections
supported by UN resolutions? Most are not, very few are.
Actually I am not in favor of Natos action, I feel it is an
E.U. problem, they should be responsible as their members
and other euros armed Milo, they should take care of their
mess. Right. But I also feel that it is a fact that
Milosevitch killed 200 to 300,000 people in Bosnia during
the early 90's. Not one of the over 50 UN resolutions
stopped him from this ethnic-racial slaughter, NOT ONE.
Talk about an illegal act!!! In fact it was only because of
threat of force and airstrikes that he did go on the Dayton
accords. That this force came not from the UN is due to
political realities.
But according to your latest post, Milo moving in for
another round of the ethnic war in kosovo. A repeat of the
early 90's was in fact but a western ploy for the arms
trade? I think you need a better conspiracy theory than
that Coolio. What I do like is your steadfast and
unrelenting refusal to admit that Milosevitch committed
mass killing in the early 90's and was on the same path in
Kosovo - That these acts were part and parcel of his racial
ideaology for a nation state of ethnic Serbs - and after
the bombing began his forces did what they wanted to -
cleared out 700,000 + Kosovo muslims from the province. I
can blame the clusterF*** of a war on NATO (and their butt
dumb approach to war) but MILO and the SERBS actions speak
much louder. The guy did what he wanted, cleared Kosovo
based on ethnic racial divisions. From your post I get the
idea that the CIA was egging Milo on through the 90's just
so we could turn on him and bomb the shit out of the place.
Not for the love of blood, but for the military industrial
sector of the economy. The arms trade. Shoot coolio if only
the world could so easily be explained. How about a little
more believability for the next conspiracy theory. Your
starting to sound like a politcal column by J Burchill. Fun
for a cackle, but something no one takes with even a grain
of salt. Cheers
This will be very difficult for you to understand coming from
your assumed unquestionable superior postion but ---when
you can dismiss and totally disreguard the wishes of the
representatives of a vast majority of the population of the earth
as " due to political realities" you are then in no position to
have any of your own request , belief or wishes held in any
esteem whatsoever by those you have decided are not worthy
of an opinion .And the label military dictatorship is justified.
Vast majority of the population - you mean because China
and the SSR find it not in their interests to support a UN
resolution? (Tibet and other republics are no doubt of
prime consideration there) And do we really even think that
they consulted their populace? - even if most of the rest
of the world would support it? Hmm Well it is interesting
that you would agree that the US should aid death regimes
in central america - that Indonesia was OK in invading
Timor in 75. That Cambodia was ok in killing a million or
so Khmers.
You really should think twice about saying that all the UN
does is ok doky, it may come back AND BITE YOU IN THE ASS.
Have you ever read about what the League of Nations did
when Italy invaded Ethiopia? Or when the German state
started to enact racial laws and citizenship rights in the
new Riech - did they make a resolution! So much for the
representatives of the vast majority of the earth.
I am rather relieved, curious that you did not come out and
make a moral statement: such as saying the ethnic cleansing
of Kosovo is a blatant crime. Keep on with your
condemnations of NATO, hey I might agree with you. Do not
come out and make a moral stand regrding human rights - IT
MAY COME BACK AND BITE YOU IN THE ASS - ESPECALLY IF YOU
CONTINUE TO SAY NOTHING IN REGARD TO WHAT MILOSEVITCH AND
THE SERBS ARE DOING IN KOSOVO AND HAVE DONE IN BOSNIA. SUCH
IDEALOGICAL PURITY SHOWS YOUR MORAL HYPOCRISY & COWARDICE.
It has been two whole months and still you refuse to state
what is apparent to the world - no matter if they approve
of NATOs actions or not.
Cheers**