The real Jamaica

This topic was created by Jeremy
[Sun 25 April, 14:07 Tasmanian Standard Time]

Nice to see the real Jamaica in the news recently. What a
great place for a relaxing holiday in the sun.

[There are 9 posts - the latest was added on Fri 21 May, 2:29]

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  1. Insulation Factor Added by: JohnJohn
    [Timestamp: Sun 25 April, 17:31 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It is easy to ignore the human misery that led to the
    demonstrations while staying at all inclusive resorts or
    cavorting in the sunshine of the North Coast. The truth is
    that the bus boys that bring your drinks and the maids that
    clean your rooms are being paid the equivalent of $20 US per
    week. The gasoline taxes they were protesting would leave
    them paying about $1.00 per litre at the pumps. That would
    make getting to and from work a little difficult considering
    none of them can afford to live on the coast and have to
    commute by mini-bus from the shanties 15 miles back in the
    hills.



  2. Jamaica Added by: brad
    [Timestamp: Tue 27 April, 1:13 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    There are 2 Jamaicas - the wonderful tourist Jamaica where everythings just "irie" and a real Jamaica which is plagued with unemployment, crime and desperation. While Jeremy's original post was obviously sarcastic about the "real" Jamaica being in the news, he is correct - the real Jamaica was in the news. The rioting was certainly not a commercial from the Jamaica Tourist Association. It is indicative of a tremendous undercurrent of dissatisfaction and major problems in the country. This will not be the last of the rioting in Jamaica -- thats for sure.
    .
    I know from my experience working in Jamaica that 99% of all tourists don't care about Jamaicans, don't care at all about Jamaica, and only really care about relaxing in the sun with a rum drink in their hands. Most don't venture outside the fortified walls of the hotels anyway -- so they only "real" Jamaica they see if to and from the airport.



  3. real Jamaica Added by: Rose
    [Timestamp: Tue 27 April, 5:58 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    As a frequent visitor to Jamaica and one who was there
    during last week's protests, I agree with much of what John
    John and Brad have written. We traveled by private car
    along the north coast last Monday during the road blocks and
    were able to see people's frustration and dissatisfaction.
    Indeed, such an increase in gas prices because of the tax
    places another burden on people who are already struggling.
    After learning a little about the situation, I can see why
    so many Jamaicans felt the need to take action in order to
    have their frustrations heard.
    This visit was certainly a learning experience for me. We
    stayed in a guest house near friends for the second part of
    our trip and witnessed some of the protesting and road
    blocking first hand. Jamaica may have many problems, but
    the people I saw were sure able to come together and take a
    stand on an issue...something that is often lacking in my
    own community. I left the island this time feeling many
    things; sadness for the situations of so many of my friends
    (some tourists do care), worry about what the mmediate
    future holds, and hope that positive change will come to
    Jamaica through the strong united voice of the people. I
    should mention also that in spite of it all, the good people
    I encountered made sure I still had a 'relaxing holiday in
    the sun'. Jamaica is really special and I pray better times
    come to this unique place.



  4. Let me add my bit... Added by: Original Jamaican
    [Timestamp: Thu 29 April, 13:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Rose, are you the same person from the longest running post
    "Horrible Jamaica" of many months ago ? I think
    so....anyway, Im back....after a looong absence. I saw a
    lot of the stuff that was happening, both on the road and
    via the tv. The truth is that the real Jamaica was on
    display for real, as it is when visitors are here having a
    wonderful time and leave with pleasant memories. My
    position is, and those who followed that last post between
    September and December last year will agree - Brad ? - that
    this country is the most complex of the English speaking
    Caribbean countries, and takes a little getting used to, if
    what you are looking for is a quiet getaway. You can get
    to your getaway in Jamaica but you cant miss the fact that
    we are not so straighforward. The protests were a long
    time coming, in that the economic situation has been tight
    here for a long time, for an increasing number of people,
    and it doesnt seem to be getting any better. As a people,
    we are extremely vocal, and for a while, I was wondering
    how we were gettgin so docile, in the face of deteriorating
    conditions. But my faith in our protest culture was
    restored. Rememver, this is the culture that produced Bob
    Marley, whose protest music provided the soundtrack for the
    fall of the Berlin Wall and countless other demonstrations
    worldwide....so dont come thinking we are all a placid
    bunch. But having spoken our minds, we went back to
    business. The traffic jams in Kingston were back to normal
    by Thursday, and Friday night was like your usual Friday
    nite, everybody out at after work jams and going out
    drinking etc....Hey, Beenie Man, one of our dancehall
    artistes, even put out a song about the demonstrations by
    the end of the week..doesnt sound bad either....so we have
    gone back to rest for maybe another few years. The last
    one like this was 1985, and before that 1979. All sparked
    by fuel price increases. By the way, JohnJohn, for the
    sake of accuracy, the increase took the price of unleaded
    gas to about US$0.53 per litre, not US$1.00.



  5. Friday nights and... Added by: Rose
    [Timestamp: Fri 30 April, 5:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Yes, Original Jamaican, it is me from a few months ago. I
    took a break too, but now that I'm back from Jamaica, I'm
    homesick for it and reading all the boards!
    You're remark about Friday nights has made me miss JA even
    more. Last Friday night we went with friends to a party in
    Steertown where the DJ was playing old hits (olitz?). Oh,
    what fun we had...I even took a nap early in the evening so
    I could stay up late with everyone. How do you all manage
    those late nights?
    You make a good point about Jamaica taking a little getting
    used to. I think if my first trip to JA had been during the
    protests it would have unnerved me some. However, it was
    inspiring to see everyone showing an interest and speaking
    up about things. A lack of apathy...so refreshing!!
    One question; I read yesterday that the government has
    rolled back the tax 45%. How close to what it was before
    the tax does it bring the cost of fuel? (in dollar amounts)
    Thanks



  6. Welcome back... Added by: Original Jamaican
    [Timestamp: Fri 30 April, 15:46 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hey Rose, welcome back....i am still working on a way of
    managing the late friday nights myself....as it turns out,
    we have been having a lot of cricket on the tv, as you may
    know, with the Aussies touring, so I just, y'know, watch
    cricket all day Sat !!
    Yes, the fact that not only the poorer classes but the
    middle and upper classes were out in the streets was really
    quite a phenomenon. I mean, in wealthy areas in Kingston,
    the residents were out with placards protesting the tax
    etc. Anyway, they have retreated to their verandahs for
    another few years and, for the poorer classes, the old
    cars, trees etc have been stored wherever they keep these
    things until the next time, when they reappear magically.
    I think the gas prices are now about $17 per litre, meaning
    say, 45c US. Previously, the price was in the region of $13
    per litre.



  7. Cricket and.. Added by: Rose
    [Timestamp: Fri 30 April, 23:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I watched some cricket myself while there, but still don't
    know the rules..It seems that Everyone watches it and a
    couple of our friends become so interested in the game that
    they reminded me of some of our youth here in the US when
    they play video games..zoned out.
    People were discussing what you mentioned about the upper
    classes being involved in the protest and how some wealthier
    people just parked their cars in the roads and walked away
    with the keys...impressive! It was interesting too how the
    churches took a stand as well. I don't know if we'd ever
    get that kind of universal involvement here in the US.



  8. Hostels and work in Jamaica Added by: Petra (pnyve@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 11 May, 19:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Help, help!!! Me and my dear friends are planninng to go to
    lovely (i hope) Jamaica in october-99 to mars-00. We don┤t
    know so much about the Island, except for the sunny weather,
    witch are one of the reason that we are going. So please
    anyone who just know anything about Jamaica, like hostels,
    how to find a job, clublife, nice reaggeclubs and anything
    else that will make us stay forever in the sun.
    Thank you thank yoou thank you



  9. Rose & Original jamaican Added by: Cam
    [Timestamp: Fri 21 May, 2:29 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hey Rose & original Jamaican
    I have always wanted to go to Jamaica, but have never had
    the chance I could go later this year - at last. I would
    be going as a tourist (Doh - of course) but what has put me
    off for a long time is the prevalence of these All
    Inclusive places - like Sandals etc.... Having said that I
    do like a bit of comfort - I do not think just by having
    some comfort yuo have to lock yourself into a resort for
    your stay. I want to take in the real culture and the
    beach culture. Where would you recommend? I ask you
    because reding above you seem to be switched on.
    Sorry to take up room on this post for my own ends.
    cam




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