education in mexico

This topic was created by Jim (jinelson@orednet.com)
[Thu 6 May, 2:32 Tasmanian Standard Time]

Help! I need to correspond with someone who knows something
about the Mexican educational system. Someone who has been
through it would be great or any information or feelings on
it would be welcome.

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  1. what Added by: A mexican
    [Timestamp: Thu 6 May, 4:38 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    do you need to know?



  2. Another mexican Added by: Laura
    [Timestamp: Thu 6 May, 16:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    what can we answer for you?



  3. mexican educational system Added by: Jim
    [Timestamp: Fri 7 May, 13:59 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi Laura and "A mexican." I would like to know things like
    -at what ages do children start?
    -is there kindergarten?
    -is there bilingual education?
    -are schools divided by a class system?
    -what do you see as positives about the mexican education
    system?
    -what are the negatives?
    -how does the grading system work?
    -are the grades 1-12?
    -is there bilingual education?
    -how is college paid for? is there assistance to help pay?
    -is it common to have a school lunch programs
    How's that for a few questions? thanks so much for
    responding- I'm really having a hard time finding
    information on this topic and I really appreciate your help.
    I'm going inot elementary education and I'm doing a research
    paper on the topic. I thought it would be helpful to
    me to understand what kind of system the mexicans are coming
    out of when they attend our schools here. thanks so much
    Jim



  4. It is out of date! Added by: canadamichael (canadamichael@yahoo.com)
    [Timestamp: Sun 9 May, 4:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Hi there,
    The following may offend some graduates of the Mexican
    educantion system (SEP)but the serious scholars will
    probably nod in agreement!
    I strongly recommend you to read Alvin Toffler's quotes from
    the Reforma newspaper about two weeks ago. His observations
    ring true (especially for the SEP education system here in
    Mexico). Email me for a copy of it if you want.
    These answers are very SUBJECTIVE! If you are serious about
    your research, please email me and I will lead you to others
    who can comment as well.
    Answers
    About 5 or 6 (at the latest).
    Yes, there are many kinder schools (best ones are private).
    Yes, there is bilingual education but only at the private
    schools as the public system has very little time devoted to
    language studies.
    Schools are divided not by class...but by how much you can
    pay. This leads to many of the so called privledged
    students with wealthy parents looking down on the children
    educated at the public institutions.
    In 5 years here in Mexico I have seen very little positives
    about the Mexican system. The vast majority of teachers do
    care but are horribly underpaid and maltreated. I imagine
    that the dedication of these teachers and their abilities to
    improvise with the little they have are the most honorable
    and positive qualities.
    The negatives are extremely long.....racism against foreign
    teachers (usually by the school administrators),lack of
    discipline,lack of responsibility, out of date textbooks,
    texts that are re-written by the government when things
    don't paint them in a good light,6 day school week at the
    university level,corruption,lack of resources, unsafe
    buildings, filth, lazy maintenance,start times as early as
    7am and finishing at 3pm,a waste of time flag ceremony every
    Monday morning.....and on and on. Please email me for more
    clarification.
    Colleges and Universities range from the good to the
    downright rotten. Public colleges and universities have
    subsidized programs. Private ones are overpriced and most
    are not recognized anywhere else in the world. Tough to
    teach International Business 101 with textbooks from 1972!
    Lunch programs are not common. The private schools have
    junkfood cafeterias run by the administrators.
    If anyone wants to discuss my subjective observations,
    please email me. I have taught at 3 private institutions
    here in Mexico and my wife teaches at a public institution.
    Hope this info helps you.
    Mike



  5. It is out of date! Added by: canadamichael (canadamichael@yahoo.com)
    [Timestamp: Sun 9 May, 4:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Hi there,
    The following may offend some graduates of the Mexican
    educantion system (SEP)but the serious scholars will
    probably nod in agreement!
    I strongly recommend you to read Alvin Toffler's quotes from
    the Reforma newspaper about two weeks ago. His observations
    ring true (especially for the SEP education system here in
    Mexico). Email me for a copy of it if you want.
    These answers are very SUBJECTIVE! If you are serious about
    your research, please email me and I will lead you to others
    who can comment as well.
    Answers
    About 5 or 6 (at the latest).
    Yes, there are many kinder schools (best ones are private).
    Yes, there is bilingual education but only at the private
    schools as the public system has very little time devoted to
    language studies.
    Schools are divided not by class...but by how much you can
    pay. This leads to many of the so called privledged
    students with wealthy parents looking down on the children
    educated at the public institutions.
    In 5 years here in Mexico I have seen very little positives
    about the Mexican system. The vast majority of teachers do
    care but are horribly underpaid and maltreated. I imagine
    that the dedication of these teachers and their abilities to
    improvise with the little they have are the most honorable
    and positive qualities.
    The negatives are extremely long.....racism against foreign
    teachers (usually by the school administrators),lack of
    discipline,lack of responsibility, out of date textbooks,
    texts that are re-written by the government when things
    don't paint them in a good light,6 day school week at the
    university level,corruption,lack of resources, unsafe
    buildings, filth, lazy maintenance,start times as early as
    7am and finishing at 3pm,a waste of time flag ceremony every
    Monday morning.....and on and on. Please email me for more
    clarification.
    Colleges and Universities range from the good to the
    downright rotten. Public colleges and universities have
    subsidized programs. Private ones are overpriced and most
    are not recognized anywhere else in the world. Tough to
    teach International Business 101 with textbooks from 1972!
    Lunch programs are not common. The private schools have
    junkfood cafeterias run by the administrators.
    If anyone wants to discuss my subjective observations,
    please email me. I have taught at 3 private institutions
    here in Mexico and my wife teaches at a public institution.
    Hope this info helps you.
    Mike




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