safety in Sonora

This topic was created by snook
[Sun 18 April, 10:42 Tasmanian Standard Time]

I have a question about if it is safe to drive from El Paso
to Casas Grandes continuing along route 2 to the toll road
15, heading south to Hermosillo and ending up at Bahia de
San Carlos. We are three 50 year old women and two 16 year
old girls. Our vehicle options are 1) 1994 Honda Civic, bit
crowed 2) rent a Toyota Corolla that might have a little
more room or 3) rent a mini van. I'm afraid a minivan will
scream "ricas" and gain us a bit more attention than we
would like. Any advice on this??? We are leaving 4/30 for a
week. Thanks

[There are 6 posts - the latest was added on Fri 23 April, 7:47]

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  1. Safe and Safer Added by: Mexico Joe
    [Timestamp: Sun 18 April, 23:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It really depends on whether you want to go the fastest and
    safest route or the more scenic and interesting route. I
    have never driven Mexico 2 west of Juarez, but if it is any
    thing like Mexico 2 from Juarez to Matamoros, which I have
    driven(which is a two laned highway with much truck traffic
    and villages and topes,etc), you are in for a drive where
    at best you will be cruising along at 50mph. If you have a
    desire to go along Mexico 2 to Casas Grandes, you should
    definitely follow that route. It will take longer. Follow
    the usual precautions(do not drive in the dark. I recommend
    stoping at least 1 hour before dusk. No Americans have any
    business being on the road after dusk in Mexico, especially
    four females unless you are looking for trouble.) As long
    as you drive during the day, you will be fine in whatever
    vehicle you decide to take.
    Let me suggest another alternative which will save you time
    and will allow you to drive at night if needed. Take I10
    through New Mexico and Arizona to Tucson and then take 19S
    to Nogales and cross the border there. You will hook up
    with Cuota Mexico 15 and you are on your way. I recently
    drove from Nuevo Laredo to Mazatlan, primarily on toll
    roads and found the drive very easy and fast and safe. You
    will not appear as "ricas" on the cuota, as most people who
    use the cuota(which are expensive for most Mexicans) are
    tourists like yourself or are better financially off
    Mexicans. As a consequence, there are Green Angels and toll
    police who patrol with regularity. One nice feature about
    the cuotas is the lack of a radar gun on Mexican patrol
    cars. Go as fast as you like. I regularly drove 90mph and
    would have gone faster had I not been driving a Saturn. As
    far as which vehicle to take, I would take the minivan. If
    you want to enjoy your trip, the extra room will be needed.
    Try to rent a minivan that is made by Chrysler or Dodge, as
    these are now common in Mexico and you will not stand out
    as much. Check into which rental agencies allow you to go
    into Mexico, or you can rent in Juarez but you will pay
    more there. As long as you take precautions, you will be
    safe on whatever route you want to take. Have fun!



  2. ...one more suggestion Added by: Mexico Joe
    [Timestamp: Mon 19 April, 10:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Let me also recommend a very helpful guide which I
    frequently find myself thumbing through. A very wise
    investment will be the Northern Mexico guide published by
    Moon Guides. It is written by Joe Cummings, a former LP
    writer who has also written Moon guides for Texas and also
    for Baja California. Unlike some LP guides, which are
    geared more for bus travellers, this guide is written
    primarily for travellers to Mexico by auto. Cummings not
    only has driven the route you wish to take, he also lives
    in Baja and offers what I regard as some very interesting
    insights to Northern Mexico and the people of Mexico. Check
    out www.moon.com for more info. Also, check out
    www.mexicomike.com for more Mexico road info. Buen viaje!



  3. thanks Mexico Joe Added by: snook
    [Timestamp: Tue 20 April, 13:13 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I really appreciate your comments. Our Moon guide is old 94
    I think. One girlfriend from Las Cruces who is one of our
    five has it. Seems I should check out the 98. I am in
    Seattle and a person at Wide World Books read to me that
    Sonora travel is safe by car as long as you never travel
    after dark and stay off very side roads. Neither 2 nor 15
    seemed "side" roads so I figure we should go forth. I'm
    nervous because I've heard stories from my Mexican friends
    about some of their encounters on the roads and also all
    night buses. We were robbed at gun point in San Cristobal
    in March 94 but we were on a deserted hill climb to a
    church and we were lucky because several months of safe
    travel had made us more relaxed. It was a very cheap lesson
    but it has increased my discomfort and I don't want to
    enter paranoia. I think some things you should never do,
    other things do with extreme caution and I don't want to
    jepordize other people with me. I think we will travel by
    car, maybe minivan, probably to Casas Grandes and perhaps
    return to US to drive to Hwy 15. I'm excited about San
    Carlos. Do you know anything about Hermosillo, places to
    see or stay or places in San Carlos? Well, thanks again.
    Snook



  4. route Added by: Richard
    [Timestamp: Wed 21 April, 10:08 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Like Mexico Joe, I would agree that it is best to go from El Paso to Colombus/Palomas, drive the hour and a half or so to Casas Grandes, spend some time visiting the ruins and the accompanying museum and visit the village of Mata Ortiz, about 20 km from Casas Grandes, where the whole village makes a beautiful black pottery. This village is on a passable but dirt road.There are good moderate hotels in Nuevo Casas Grandes. Then I would go back to New Mexico and do the Interstate 10 to Tucson route suggested. San Carlos has some beautiful beaches, especially around the Club Med. There was also good snorkeling off the coast. I am also from El Paso and have done both of these trips. Rt. 2 after Agua Prieta became mountainous and seemed rather dangerous, with many trucks and a narrow road. Sounds like fun!



  5. About Mexico Joe's advice... Added by: Chato
    [Timestamp: Fri 23 April, 7:45 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    If you go from Juarez you must go toward Chihuahua City and
    turn west at a wide place in the road called El Sueco. The
    turnoff is well marked. The trip should take around 4 hours
    from El Paso. I wouldn't do it at night as a "just in case"
    sort of precaution but it probably isn't necessarily
    dangerous - and the people are pretty nice. Mexico Joe
    apparently didn't understand where Casas Grandes is.



  6. addendum Added by: Chato
    [Timestamp: Fri 23 April, 7:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    If the Pacific coast is your destination, Mexico Joe is
    correct.




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