Guatemala, Honduras Safety

This topic was created by Jayare (eclesis@hotmail.com)
[Mon 12 April, 14:12 Tasmanian Standard Time]

Hello
though I've been to both Guatemala and Honduras, It was six years ago and I have recently heard about increases in crime.
I am planning on going in within a month or so and would like to visit Tikal, and Copan as well as the bay islands. I wouls also like to climb at least 1 volcano in Guatemala.
has anyone out there recently traversed any of these routes? Any words of wisdom and/ or caution ?

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  1. re:jayare Added by: student
    [Timestamp: Mon 12 April, 14:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    U. S. Department of State Crime Information:
    Excerpt from Advisory dtd. 2-20-98
    Personal security in Honduras requires a high degree of
    caution. Throughout Honduras, street crime is the principal
    concern, with thefts in urban and coastal recreational
    areas, which include purse snatching, pick-pocketing and
    armed robberies. Displaying jewelry or large amounts of
    money increases the risk of robbery. Armed highway robberies
    and car-jackings have been a particular problem, and there
    have also been incidents of home and yacht burglaries, and
    even murders. Tourists have been targeted by criminals in
    areas of San Pedro Sula, Tela, Trujillo and Tegucigalpa.
    U.S. citizens should exercise particular caution in and
    around sparsely-inhabited coastal areas, and they should
    avoid walking on isolated beaches, especially at night.
    In 1997, a number of U.S. citizens and others were
    assaulted, raped and/or robbed by armed criminals on beaches
    in and around the popular north coast resort towns of Tela
    and Trujillo. A pattern has also emerged of armeded hold-ups
    of U.S. citizens and other travelers, occurring after the
    victims arrive at San Pedro Sula Airport and continue
    overland by road to other destinations in northern Honduras.
    These highway robberies, which take place mostly on the main
    coast road passing through El Progreso-Tela-La Ceiba, are
    believed to be the work of several organized bands of armed
    robbers preying on luggage-laden travelers arriving on
    international flights at San Pedro Sula Airport. The bandits
    are believed to use airport spotters and cellular phones or
    radios to coordinate the assaults.
    Although not a primary tourist destination, the Department
    of Olancho has a reputation for being one of the most
    violent areas in Honduras. Armed assaults of buses and
    private cars, sometimes involving rapes and killings, have
    been on the upswing on the stretch of unpaved road between
    Limones and La Union, Olancho.



  2. Here is my take Added by: Tom L. (tom@xelapages.com)
    [Timestamp: Mon 12 April, 14:31 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I was in Copan in Dec 98 with my entire family 10 of us in
    all and we had a great time. No many tourists due to
    Hurricane Mitch but everything was wonderful and the lack of
    tourists was not a bad thing.
    I have helped may people set up Tikal trips and all of them
    have had good experiences.
    I live in Xela and travel quite extensively throughout Guate
    and to date have had only good experiences.
    Crime is present, but where in this world is it not??
    Use your common sense be friendly and polite.
    Hope this helps
    Tom
    Xela Pages Travel Guide
    http://www.xelapages.com



  3. re Added by: student
    [Timestamp: Mon 12 April, 14:32 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    U. S. Department of State Crime Information:
    Excerpt from Advisory dtd. 2-20-98
    Personal security in Honduras requires a high degree of
    caution. Throughout Honduras, street crime is the principal
    concern, with thefts in urban and coastal recreational
    areas, which include purse snatching, pick-pocketing and
    armed robberies. Displaying jewelry or large amounts of
    money increases the risk of robbery. Armed highway robberies
    and car-jackings have been a particular problem, and there
    have also been incidents of home and yacht burglaries, and
    even murders. Tourists have been targeted by criminals in
    areas of San Pedro Sula, Tela, Trujillo and Tegucigalpa.
    U.S. citizens should exercise particular caution in and
    around sparsely-inhabited coastal areas, and they should
    avoid walking on isolated beaches, especially at night.
    In 1997, a number of U.S. citizens and others were
    assaulted, raped and/or robbed by armed criminals on beaches
    in and around the popular north coast resort towns of Tela
    and Trujillo. A pattern has also emerged of armeded hold-ups
    of U.S. citizens and other travelers, occurring after the
    victims arrive at San Pedro Sula Airport and continue
    overland by road to other destinations in northern Honduras.
    These highway robberies, which take place mostly on the main
    coast road passing through El Progreso-Tela-La Ceiba, are
    believed to be the work of several organized bands of armed
    robbers preying on luggage-laden travelers arriving on
    international flights at San Pedro Sula Airport. The bandits
    are believed to use airport spotters and cellular phones or
    radios to coordinate the assaults.
    Although not a primary tourist destination, the Department
    of Olancho has a reputation for being one of the most
    violent areas in Honduras. Armed assaults of buses and
    private cars, sometimes involving rapes and killings, have
    been on the upswing on the stretch of unpaved road between
    Limones and La Union, Olancho.
    so there u go



  4. re added by student Added by: Jayare
    [Timestamp: Mon 12 April, 15:59 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Thanks for responding. I have actually already read the state dept warnings but wanted to get some responses from people who have travelled along these routes. Although the state dept warnings give a certain degree of understanding of an area, It is hard to put it into context of actual per capia crime. Personally, I am interested in what people's emotional feelings and general comfort levels were while they were travelling. Thanks anyhow.



  5. just returned from Guatamala Added by: John (john.powers@arch2.nara.gov)
    [Timestamp: Tue 13 April, 4:39 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I just returned from Guatamala. We went to Tikal, Atitlan,
    Chchicastengo, Nebaj, and Antigua. We experienced no
    problems. although we did not climb a volcano, we did bike
    one with a guide (Old Town Outfitters). We camped at Tikal
    and had no problems--but we did find out that it is cheaper
    and easier to book your flight with a travel operator in
    Antigua. In Nebaj, we met a local guide who took us on an
    all day hike through the mountains around Nebaj and Acul,
    again without problems. We did find out that the LP
    guide is out of date here though. You definately do not
    want to stay at Tres Hermanos. Antigua (at least during
    Semana Santa) was full of police and we had no problems).
    There were lots of police on the road to Pana. on the Lake.



  6. Pissed in Onterio Added by: Charlie
    [Timestamp: Tue 13 April, 11:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    The only problem I experiance in guatemala was the one Hoar
    who took 50 qunsales from my wallet while I was drunk I mean
    I would of at least gave her that much and the one in La
    cieba Honduras who would not stay the hole night and just
    wanted a quick one and then she still wanted a whole 10$
    Canadian I told her I would give her 20$ but she would not
    go for it and I only got a dime instead of a quarter ounce
    of good coke for 3$ othere than that I did not feel any
    danger dont worrie about those wimps and there warning if
    you listen to them you might as well stay home but then they
    will probally come up with the
    "Danger of staying home pamflet"



  7. State dept. Added by: Bob (bklinge1@san.rr.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 13 April, 13:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Been reading state dept. warnings for years. Behind everyone
    of them is a grain of truth. But...if you have ever had to
    deal with the US embassy in any 3rd world country you soon
    get the impression that they really don't want you running
    around there. Why cant you stay home, get a hair cut and go
    to Disney Land?..is the attitude. Western Europe is OK to
    them..if you act respectable. Maybe Japan if you are rich.
    I've traveled through much of Latin America..including
    Cuba..been in several countries in the stages of Civil War,
    guerrilla insurrection, student protests and strikes, and a
    couple cases of the US trying to screw the people of the
    country. Other than the all too frequent drunk bus driver and
    a few meals that I should have known better to eat never
    really felt in danger (OK the one time in Guat. when I had to
    convince the army patrol that the grenade wasn't mine was
    dicey). It's easy to die in bed but just ain't no fun. Any
    State Dept. report triple check through independent sources.



  8. Guate safety Added by: Michele
    [Timestamp: Wed 14 April, 7:01 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I was in Guatemala about 4 weeks ago and loved it - never
    felt in any danger. We did meet a guy who had been robbed on
    the volcano near San Pedro on Lago Atitlan, and he told us
    another person and their local guide had also been robbed,
    so maybe best to ask around before you head off alone into
    areas only tourists would go. Then again, maybe they caught
    the perpetrators by now. The guy said it was particularly
    frightening because the robbers were a group of extremely
    nervous fifteen year olds and he was afraid one of them
    would misinterpret a move of his and blow his head off. In
    San Pedro, there are safety deposit boxes to store your
    passport and you can just bring along enough money to keep
    possible robbers happy if you decide to go anyway - and lots
    of people do.
    BTW I heard from several people that they got sick after
    eating at the downstairs restaurant at the dock in San
    Pedro. I had breakfast there, but vegetarian, and had no
    problem - maybe it's just meat based food that's tricky.
    The volcano Pacaya outside of Antigua can be climbed in
    groups which are accompanied by armed guards.
    The only people I met who had problems were on volcanoes or
    in Guatemala city.
    I met one guy who claimed to have been robbed at the
    lakeshore in Pana, but I had a feeling he was a scammer. He
    was asking for money to get to Guate and his embassy, or new
    traveller's cheques, but saw him in a cafe two days later.
    I loved Guatemala- envy you like crazy



  9. I had no problems Added by: Janice
    [Timestamp: Fri 16 April, 23:58 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I was in Honduras and Guatemala for a few months last
    summer just before Mitch and had no problems. Guatemala has
    a few pickpockets in the city, but I heard of no other
    problems. Everyone was taking the bus to Tikal, but during
    the daytime.
    I injured my knee in Honduros, but never had anything but
    kindness in LaCeiba and on the islands for the three weeks I
    was in that area. I was travelling on my own and made an
    easy target on a pair of crutches. However, I did meet some
    people that said there were some problems of theft around
    the peak seasons in Tela and La Ceiba. This was before
    Mitch. Now I have heard it is worse and there are many more
    robberies along the roads.
    I never have listened to over protective travel reports.
    A bit of caution goes a long way in third world countries
    and those reports are for the naive.




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