What is UnAustralian?

This topic was created by Joe Strummer (hammersmithpalais)
[Mon 1 Feb, 16:10 Tasmanian Standard Time]

During my brief stay in this wonderful country I have heard
several people referring to things as "unAustralian".
Can someone please define "un Australian" and tell me why
this would necessarily be undesirable.
And do other countries have "un-thingy" behaviour?
("UnZimbabwean?", "Un-Chinese"??)

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  1. Un-Australian - many things Added by: PhillC (pclarke@healey.com.au)
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 17:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would have been Un-Australian not to have a few beers on
    Australia Day last week (26/1)
    It would be Un-Australian not to observe one minute's
    silence on ANZAC Day (25/4)
    It would be Un-Australian not to give Poms as much stick as
    possible, but secretly like the majority of them.
    It would be Un-Australian not to try and drink every
    Irishman you meet under the table.
    It would be Un-Australian not to enjoy a quiet beer or
    fifteen with your mates on a Saturday afternoon.
    It would be Un-Australian (from a male perspective) not to
    tell your best mate how much you love him after consuming
    aformentioned beers.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have owned a Speedwell
    pushbike at some stage in your life.
    It would be Un-Australian not to love a bet - on anything,
    anything at all.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have had a chill run up
    your spine every time you see the scene in The Man From
    Snowy River, where man and horse careen down that steep,
    slippery slope at break neck speed.
    It would be Un-Australian not to secretly love the
    stereotypical image Paul Hogan has portrayed for all of us.
    It would be Un-Australian not to tell foreign visitors that,
    yes indeed I do have a kangaroo in my back yard.
    It would be Un-Australian not to like that endless series of
    VB advertisments on television.
    It would be Un-Australian not to barrack for the underdog.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have squinted at the
    horizon, in the face of another burning summer sunset.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have been drenched by a
    sudden summer thunder storm.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have swallowed a fly at
    some stage in your life.
    It would be Un-Australian not to enjoy beating the Poms at
    cricket, whether you are a cricket fan or not.
    It would be Un-Australian not to know the words to Advance
    Australia Fair and Waltzing Matilda.
    It would be Un-Australian not to proudly proclaim your
    nationality, no matter where you were in the world.
    It would be Un-Australian not to be able to decipher
    "Ayyoubloodymugavagowhydontya".
    It would be Un-Australian not to have a jar of Vegemite in
    the cupboard.
    It would be Un-Australian not to be able to laugh at
    ourselves.
    This is of course from the perspective of a twenty-something
    male WASP raised in the country.
    Australian culture is many things to many people, I don't
    think it can be accurately defined. The above points may
    have very little relevance to many new immigrants and most
    likely Australia's Aboriginal population as well.



  2. Un-Uzbekistanian Added by: Jungle Jim
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 17:44 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Ever heard of the "UnAmerican Activities Committee" during
    the McCarthy era? It referred ,of course, to supposed
    communist activities.Un-Australian can refer to almost
    anything,accept not knowing the second verse of the national
    anthem,virtually no-one knows that.



  3. duh Added by: 55
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 17:58 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    being intelligent is pretty un-australian



  4. HI!!! to 55 Added by: Dinkum Aussie
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 19:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Nise to see youre wun uvus!



  5. Seriously Added by: Muttaburrasaurus
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 20:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It's an inane tabloid expression referring to people of independent mind doing anything that does not conform to some social stricture which is deemed to offend someone else's cheap nationalistic, jingoistic definition of what is "Australian".



  6. refer point five Added by: bender
    [Timestamp: Mon 1 Feb, 22:03 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    point five is a good example of what is un-australian.
    the term refers to what is fair or the correct thing to do.



  7. usa Added by: tom
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 2:35 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    here in the states we have had [along time ago] a gov't body
    called the "house un-american activities comittee", i think
    it was used to investigate communists in the fifties, there
    was a weird hysteria then led by a senator Joe Mc Carthy



  8. Good one Phill Added by: douglas
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 13:12 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Joe,
    Phill has captured perfectly what it is to be
    'un-Australian'. His post doesn't take anything too
    seriously and that is how you must view the concept of being
    'un-Australian'.
    The person at post number 5 was on the mark - to be
    'un-Australian' is an excuse used by people if things don't
    go there way - becuase of the actions of another person. No
    one really knows what it means to be Australian, apart from
    some jingoistic campaign thrust upon the masses (of which we
    are all included) by wankers in the marketing department of
    consumable products.
    The term 'un-Australian' is pretty unrealistic.



  9. un-Australian? Added by: aussie
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 15:02 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I think it's easier to define what's "un-Australian" than to
    define what is "Australian". I certainly feel the following
    three activities are un-Australian and please feel free to
    add to the list:
    1. being accepted into this country as a refugee, then
    subsequently contributing to the destruction of Australian
    youth by importing, distributing and selling heroin.
    2. shooting at police or police stations
    3. insisting that your daughters undergo the barbaric
    practice of female circumcision



  10. A little more... Added by: PhillC
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 16:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I posed this question to some of my friends who, being down
    to earth country lads themselves, came up with the following
    suggestions: (I've culled some of the more crude examples)
    It would be Un-Australian not to take advantage of our God
    given right to the sickie
    It would be Un-Australian not to do circle work
    It would be Un-Australian not to have a Hills Hoist in the
    backyard
    It would be Un-Australian not to love V8's
    It would be Un-Australian not to observe one minute's
    silence at least twice a week at the local RSL (Returned
    Services League) Club while consuming a dozen beers or so.
    It would be Un-Australian not to call any successful New
    Zealanders "Aussies" and the rest "sheep rooters".
    It would be Un-Australian not to hate the Manly Sea Eagles
    It would be Un-Australian not to have a have a good time
    with the Bundy Bears.
    t would be Un-Australian not to have done a nudie run on the
    piss.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have been skinny dipping,
    preferably in someone elses pool or at the beach, with a VB
    still in your hand.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have tried to out do your
    mates at talking bullshit, particularly regarding
    girlfriends, dangerous experiences and sex.
    It would be Un-Australian not to think that Australia has
    the best looking women in the world.
    It would be Un-Australian not to have taken part in a boat
    race.
    It would be Un-Australian not to own a pair of thongs.
    It would be un Australian not to have a street sign with
    your name on it in your bedroom. Or at least a flashing road
    work sign.



  11. Ever been outside oz? Added by: Jungle Jim
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 17:02 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    "Un-Australian not to think that Australia has the best
    looking women in the world." Geez, that's stretchin' things
    a bit!!



  12. And Added by: Sally
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 22:42 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be un-Australian not to believe that everyone human is a "bloke" and women are some strange appendage to the human race suitable for shagging and producing the next generation of blokes.



  13. up there Kazaly Added by: Kate
    [Timestamp: Wed 3 Feb, 0:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    PhillC, you can come and have a barbie at my place any time.



  14. I am having fun with this topic... Added by: PhillC (pclarke@healey.com.au)
    [Timestamp: Wed 3 Feb, 10:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Well I have to agree with Sally sentiments, most of my
    Un-Australian comments were from a male's perspective. I'm
    trying to find some female points of view now.
    Thanks for the kind offer of the barbie Kate, see you
    Saturday then ?
    This is a travel bulletin board and we really shouldn't
    digress into philosophical debate, but I think it would be
    much harder to define exactly what Australian culture is.
    There are some broad stereotypes, and I know that I have a
    very strong opinion about what is Australian culture to me,
    on a personal level. But this would most certainly not apply
    to the majority of the Australian population. I'm probably
    from a minority group, born and raised in a rural
    environment. Which has instilled me with many values and
    ideas which are unique to such an upbringing. Having said
    that I've now lived in Sydney for a few years and have
    learn't much from the experience.
    Australian culture is, in my humble opinion, anything which
    is unique to some part of the Australian psyche.
    One last addition....
    It would be un Australian to have not swung from a piece of
    rope tied to a tree into the local river.



  15. UnAustralian Web? Added by: Lynn (lineke98)
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 7:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Some of this stuff is amazing - so is anyone keen (and able
    to set up a text website? Would if I knew how...
    It's unAustralian (in London) not to pack yourself into a
    "Walkabout" pub on Australia Day and pay รบ5 a beer?



  16. Response to Lynn Added by: PhillC
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 13:48 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I've started something similar at:
    http://www.healey.com.au/~pclarke/unaussie.html
    Basically it contains my initial thoughts plus additions
    from friends who have felt the need to contribute.
    Cheers
    Phill



  17. HERE IS MY 2BOB Added by: NEW AUSTRALIAN
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 March, 21:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    IT WOULD BE VERRY UN-AUSTRALIAN IF YOU DID NOT SHIT ON A NEW
    COMERS JUST BECAUSE HE OR SHE WAS BORN SOMEWHERE ELSE AND
    NOT IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY.
    IT WOULD BE UN-AUSTRALIAN IF AN AUSSIE WOULD GIVE A FAIR GO
    TO A "NEW AUSTRALIAN""



  18. go home you wog Added by: fair dinkum
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 March, 21:19 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    we give you a fair go =one way ticket home that would be
    UN-AUSTRALIAN.



  19. Un-European Added by: Paddy, Simon, Mario & Jurgen
    [Timestamp: Fri 5 March, 14:49 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be Un-European not to come to Australia & love the
    bloody place & never want to leave...!



  20. Americanisms Added by: Taz Tim
    [Timestamp: Wed 10 March, 21:56 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Any americanisms such as "sidewalk" instead of "footpath",
    "trash" instead of "rubbish" etc etc. They are
    unAustralian. Also check out the discussion about Americans
    in Europe in the Western Europe section of the Thorn Tree.
    Tim.



  21. its crap Added by: crap
    [Timestamp: Thu 11 March, 10:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Un Australian is a phrase that divides people. You're either
    an Australian or your not -- with us or against us.
    It must come from Australia's isolationist past.
    I don't know where it originally came from, but the only
    people I ever hear using it are politicians -- especially
    racist ones like Pauline Hanson.
    For that reason it is best buried forever.



  22. well done crap Added by: dimitri
    [Timestamp: Mon 22 March, 19:57 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    the title say it ... well done , forget it



  23. well done crap Added by: dimitri
    [Timestamp: Mon 22 March, 19:57 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    the title say it ... well done , forget it



  24. hey PhillC Added by: yank
    [Timestamp: Thu 1 April, 11:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    are you sure you're not from Texas? Minus the Cricket?



  25. xenophobia Added by: Alex
    [Timestamp: Thu 1 April, 21:03 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be 'Un-Australian' to say that you're a man in
    your own right, that you love your mates near and far for
    who they are, and not some nationalist slogan



  26. IT WOULD BE UN-AUSTRALIAN TO ADMIT YOU HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX ABOUT NEW ZEALAND Added by: KiwiBastard
    [Timestamp: Thu 1 April, 21:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    .



  27. It Added by: Heliotrope
    [Timestamp: Fri 9 April, 7:04 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    would be UnAustralian to never get take your clothes off in
    the pub



  28. // Added by: /
    [Timestamp: Mon 12 April, 23:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be totally un-Australian to continue denying
    Aboriginal legitimacy.



  29. and another.. Added by: Okker
    [Timestamp: Thu 22 April, 21:06 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be un-Australian not to be called Jason, Jay,
    Craig, Todd, Darren or Stevo.
    It would un-Australian not to wear a plain blue singlet.
    It would un-Australian not to smoke Winfield Reds.



  30. PHIL'S A LEGEND Added by: BRETT
    [Timestamp: Wed 28 April, 1:50 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    ANYONE WHO HAS A GO AT PHIL FOR HAVING A BIT OF FUN IS JUST A BORING WANKER



  31. Violence Added by: Really Pissed Off
    [Timestamp: Thu 29 April, 12:34 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be Un-Australian to make a new life in Australia
    but then also import the political violence from your
    previous country. Pack your bags and go home.



  32. vegamite Added by: CS
    [Timestamp: Sun 2 May, 7:14 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I'm not Australlian but I had a Australlian roomate for a while and one thing I learned was that NOT liking Vegamite is very UN-Australlian



  33. Verse 2. Added by: Debs
    [Timestamp: Wed 5 May, 9:49 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Beneath the hmm hmm Southern Cross
    We Toil with hearts and hands
    To make our youthfull Commonwealth
    Renound of all the lands.
    Can someone else fill in the hmmm hmmm?



  34. Rude as fuck Added by: Ally
    [Timestamp: Sat 22 May, 3:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It would be un-Australian to not give as good as you get
    and take it on the chin.
    It would be un-Australian not to use every derogatory word
    under the sun to express how much you like some one.
    ie if an Aussie tends to be polite to you always (except if
    they're in sales or an employee .. but even then..)......
    they hate your guts and think you're a waste of space.
    BUT if an Aussie is rude as fuck to you then they probably
    think you're all right.



  35. Jeez, I dunno Added by: ethernet
    [Timestamp: Mon 24 May, 17:49 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hmmmm, yes. I think that being un-australian is being
    american. You are the best nation in the world after all...



  36. Refer to 33 Added by: ah
    [Timestamp: Tue 25 May, 3:37 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Radiant - I think




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