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Frequently Asked Questions

Fourteeners

Official Fourteener?
Q: Who determines when a summit is an "official" Fourteener.
A: The short answer is the U.S.G.S.; the basic problem is the 300 foot — 1 mile 'rule' which states that for a second summit to be a Fourteener it must be 300 feet higher than the saddle low point and at least one-mile away from its higher neighbor. See 14er Sub-Peaks for more information

Fourteeners Rank?
Q: How come several 14ers have the same rank?
A: If two or more 14ers have the same elevation, then they will have the same rank.

Fourteener Names?
Q: Occasionally the Fourteener names used in your books, calendars and the website do not agree with books by other authors, how come?
A: Above the Timber tries to use U.S.G.S. names and elevations exclusively,  if you find an error relative to the U.S.G.S. database, please send an email.

Fourteeners Poster?
Q: If there are 54 Fourteeners, how come their are only 40 photographs on the Fourteener IIb poster?
A: Many of the photos contain 2 or more summits, would you separate the Maroon Bells?

Diente?
Q: Did Diente really climb every Fourteener?
A: Every one!!! Sometimes more than once in a day.

Orders

Discounts?
Q: Does Above the Timber offer discounts for larger orders?
A: Yes, check the discount schedule on the order form.

Credit Cards?
Q: Does Above the Timber accept credit card orders?
A: No, retail orders represent only 2% of Above the Timber's annual sales, hence the start-up and annual cost of this service does not justify the expense. This may change as the Internet matures.

Telephone Orders?
Q: Why doesn't Above the Timber accept retail telephone orders?
A: The answer is twofold: 1) read credit card orders above; 2) in order to accept phone orders someone has to answer the phone on a regular basis, do you know anyone who has ever taken a world class photograph while answering the telephone?

Photo Prints?
Q: I want a special photograph of a Fourteener as a gift for a friend, does Roger Edrinn produce one-of-a-kind fine art photographs?
A: Yes, but they are very expensive due to the time and materials involved. Fine Art Prints 

Autographs?
Q: Does Roger Edrinn provide autographed copies of his books?
A: Yes!  The logistics might slow the shipment, the autograph is free.

Voice Mail?
Q: I've tried numerous times to talk to someone and I always get the answering machine, How come?
A: Above the Timber is off the grid, no phone wires, therefore the only telephone contact is through the answering machine.  Call backs are always delayed, sometimes several days.  See Open Letter for more details.

Private Information?
Q: The order form requests email and telephone, do you share or sell this information?
A: Never, Never, Never, its only requested in case there is a question on your order.

Photo Submissions

Publish Your Photos?
Q: I have a great Fourteener Photo, will Above the Timber publish my Photograph?
A: Yes!!! Reader Photos, is intended to provide a venue for all Fourteener photos. Photos should be on mountain, with or without people, and be of general interest to the Fourteener community. See the existing photos and submissions guidelines at  Reader Photos.  Also receive a $5.00 coupon if your photo is posted.

More Publish Your Photos?
Q: Does Above the Timber accept submissions from photographers for Books & Calendars?
A: Not for single photographs, possibly entire projects. The key question to ask is whether you are interested or passionate?
Interested, willing to spend someone else's money on your project.
Passionate, willing to spend your money on your project.
For a book, the price of passion starts at  ~$20,000.  Needless to say, passion is highly prized.

Employment

Q: I want to work for Above the Timber, what do I need to do?
A: Above the Timber was started as a one man company with this simple philosophy: "Never work for another person, Never have someone work for you." This philosophy is ignored for four-legged-fur-balls who seldom speak and have sad eyes. The current such critter is Pi�on, a thirty pound (and rapidly growing) bundle of energy.

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