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ALT.DRUGS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
(The New Miscellaneous FAQ)
Maintained by: gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi
Special kudos to: lamont@hyperreal.com
*** The QuickFAQ(tm) ***
[Asking any of these will get you shot]
* Where can I get the drug FAQs?
From hyperreal.com by FTP, Gopher or WWW.
* I can't FTP/Gopher/WWW, can you mail me a FAQ...
No. Read on (end of part A).
* Is there strychnine in LSD (acid)?
* Will banana skins or peanuts get me high?
No. Read on (part C, questions 1 and 15).
* Is there a recipie (sic) for LSD/Ecstasy/speed...?
Recipe, no; synthesis, yes. Read on (part C, question 4).
*** The Extended FAQ ***
Note: This is *not* an attempt at a comprehensive FAQ on all aspects of
all drugs, that's what the individual drug FAQs are for. Instead, this is a
guide on how to behave in alt.drugs, how to use net resources and an answer
to some *really* frequently asked questions. Part A covers general stuff
regarding alt.drugs and net, part B lists the FAQs, and part C gives slightly
more detailed answers to the questions above and more.
A) The alt.drugs hierarchy
alt.drugs is a forum where people interested in the use of mind-altering
substances, not necessarily even illegal ones, get together to share
information and swap stories. If you are against drug use and post about
it, be prepared to have lots of references and solid info on hand, since
otherwise you WILL be flamed. Also, don't even THINK about trying to buy
drugs on alt.drugs... you won't get any, period.
alt.drugs is subdivided into a number of groups. In addition to alt.drugs,
which covers everything without its own group, there are the following:
alt.drugs.caffeine Coffee, tea, and more exotic caffeine sources.
alt.drugs.chemistry Manufacture, extraction, etc.
alt.drugs.culture Trip accounts, music, etiquette, etc.
alt.drugs.hard Hard drugs (heroin, cocaine, etc)
alt.drugs.pot All forms of cannabis and everything related to it.
alt.drugs.psychedelics LSD, DMT, mushrooms and company.
alt.drugs.usenet The most addictive drug of all! A joke group.
Most of these groups are relatively new and thus not received by many
sites. If your site does not receive them, ask your sysadmin to add them.
In addition, there are some drug-related groups not under alt.drugs:
alt.coffee Coffee, with and without caffeine.
alt.drunken.bastards Abusers of the drug ethanol.
alt.hemp Various uses of the plant, focus on industrial use.
alt.psychoactives Primarily nootropics, ie. "smart drugs".
alt.smokers Nicotine addicts' discussion group.
rec.food.drink.beer Beer discussion.
sci.med.pharmacy Technical discussion about pharmaceutical drugs.
sci.med.psychobiology Technical discussion about legal psychoactives.
talk.politics.drugs The politics of drugs.
Rumors abound about the Feds/the cops/the DEA monitoring alt.drugs,
but evidently nobody has been busted/investigated *solely* because of
posting. But if you're going to admit to something illegal, it's a good
idea to post it via an anonymous server. Just mail your message to
alt.drugs@anon.penet.fi, and the rest is magic. For more details,
mail help@anon.penet.fi.
B) Other FAQs (WHICH I WILL *NOT* MAIL TO YOU)
The following FAQs are posted regularly:
Weekly: alt.drugs FAQ, Drug-Related Network Resources FAQ
Biweekly: Addresses FAQ, FTP Instructions FAQ, Natural Highs FAQ
Monthly: Anti War-on-Drugs Activists' List, The Drug Price Report
There are a whole bunch of FAQs for individual drugs and drug classes,
which are posted highly irregularly. All of the above as well as all of
the following can be found at hyperreal.com in the directory /drugs/faqs
thru FTP/Gopher/WWW. If you can't connect, the problem is at your end,
not hyperreal's.
Absinthe, Bibliography, Bong-Pipe, Caffeine, Cannabis Hemp (alt.hemp),
Codeine, Dextromethorphan, Ecstasy, Eating Marijuana, Grain Alcohol,
Gravity Bong, Growlights, Institute for Hemp, LSD, LSD-Tattoo, Marijuana
Consumption, Marijuana Law, Marijuana Myths, MDMA (Ecstasy), MDMA
Synthesis, Methamphetamine (Speed), Morning Glory, Natural Highs
Australia, Neuropharmacology, Nutmeg, Opioid, Opioid Analgesics,
Psilocybe Mushroom, San Pedro Potency, Smart Drink, Solvents, Tryptamine
Carriers, W
For instructions on how to FTP, go over to news.announce.newusers
and get the help files, or buy a book on using the Internet.
If you can't use FTP, Gopher, WWW or other services that need a direct
connection, fear not, you can use the FTP-by-mail services! Here's a list
of server addresses, mail a message consisting of the word "help" to one:
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com, ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu, bitftp@pucc.bitnet
C) Really Frequently Asked Questions
All directory and file paths refer to hyperreal.com. References for
most if not all of the info below available.
1. Is there strychnine (rat poison) in LSD?
No, there is no strychnine in LSD. EVER. It is physically impossible to
fit enough strychnine on a blotter tab to cause an effect; besides, since
strychnine is expensive and the manufacturing process never uses it, there's
absolutely no point in putting it there. (No, it does not bind the
LSD to the paper or carry it across the blood-brain barrier or...)
Large-scale lab analyses of street samples have never found ANY strychnine
in LSD. The 'speedy' effects of acid, often attributed to the mythical
strychnine, are in fact caused by a bad set and setting, not impurities in
the drug. See the LSD FAQ and /drugs/psychedelics/lsd/strychnine.
2. Does LSD leave crystals in your brain/spinal fluid that cause flashbacks?
No. LSD is water soluble and entirely cycled out of your system within
a few days. Full-fledged "pathological" flashbacks can be caused by any
traumatic or extraordinary experience, including an LSD trip, but are not
directly caused by the drug. See the LSD FAQ.
3. What happens if I take LSD while I'm on Prozac or other antidepressants?
With SSRIs like Prozac, the effects of psychedelics are reduced greatly;
however, the medical consequences are unknown. Do NOT mix psychedelics with
MAOIs, TCAs or lithium. If you have a story, mail kbonson@helix.nih.gov who
is doing a study on this. In general, avoid mixing the two.
4. I have a recipe for making LSD with moldy rye bread and hair spray...
No. The -synthesis- of LSD is a very, very difficult process that
requires dangerous chemicals and lots of experience in organic chemistry.
Check out http://hyperreal.com/drugs/faqs/synthesis.html (also available
by FTP) for information on the synthesis of GHB, LSD, MDMA, methamphetamine,
methcathinone and N2O. If you don't understand the synthesis, go read
organic chemistry, we can't put it "in English" for you.
As for some of the more famous recipes:
LSD from apple cores: No.
LSD from moldy rye: A laboratory (not kitchen) can extract LSA, a related
substance. See /drugs/psychedelics/lsd/ergot.culture.
LSD from morning glory: Another extraction of LSA, see the Morning Glory FAQ.
Meth from inhalers: An extraction of l-methamphetamine, a much weaker
substance than real meth.
5. Can you overdose on acid/pot?
No, overdosing on pot would require smoking several KILOS of the stuff
within 15 minutes. Assuming you did manage this feat, you would instantly
throw up most of it. Overdosing on LSD is equally difficult. There
is a case where a number of people snorted a massive overdose (equal to
around 1250 hits) of pure LSD tartrate, believing it to be cocaine; some
of them fell into comas and had other severe physical reactions, but lived
through the experience with no permanent physical or mental damage.
6. What is Ecstasy (E, XTC)?
Ecstasy should be 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), but on
the street it is often a close chemical relative like MDA or MDE. It
may also on occasion be a mixture of unrelated chemicals like LSD and/or
methamphetamine (speed). Contrary to popular belief E is *not* laced
with heroin, heroin costs too much, is very different in its effects, and
is not active orally; the only possibility is a heroin/MDMA mix for
snorting or injecting. What people think of as effects caused by heroin
are often just MDA or MDE.
7. Does MDMA cause brain damage/Parkinson's disease/deplete spinal fluid?
No, although investigations on possible brain damage continue; there
is certainly no drastic brain damage though. The Parkinson's rumors come
from a journalist confusing MDMA with MPTP, a product of screwed-up opiate
manufacture which has nothing at all to do with MDMA. See the MDMA FAQ.
8. Are shroom kits legal, and do they work?
The spores in the kits contain no psilocybin, so they are legal, except
in California. They work, but only if you're willing to put effort into
growing. See the Psilocybe Mushroom FAQ and /drugs/psychedelics/mushrooms.
9. Will marijuana do <X> to my body?
Marijuana does *not* cause brain/immune/reproductive system damage,
concentrate in the brain/testicles, enlarge breasts in males or damage
chromosomes. It *can* cause lung ailments such as cancer, and driving
while stoned *can* cause accidents. MJ smoke is *not* 10 times worse than
tobacco, they are roughly equal, it may even be less harmful. See Marijuana
Myths or the Cannabis Hemp (alt.hemp) FAQ for more details.
10. I just got a microdot of synthetic mescaline...
No. An effective dose of mescaline would not fit in a microdot or
on blotter, and mescaline in the black market is extremely rare anyway.
Most of what is called mescaline is in fact LSD.
11. My friend told me that pot is often laced with acid...
No. Pot is one of the cheapest drugs around, and just about anything
added to it would make it more expensive. If somebody tells you that
their pot was laced, almost always it just means they got hold of some really
good pot and/or just got much more stoned than usual. If the pot was laced
with acid, the acid would be destroyed by the heat when you smoked it.
Occasionally pot laced with PCP, opium, or heroin is available, if so
you will be told since it costs much more.
12. Help, I have a piss test next week and...
Summary: Stop smoking and drink water. 8 glasses a day for two weeks
should put you in the clear, but even a week is often enough. Herbs like
Golden Seal do not work and are not needed. Most urine tests cannot detect
LSD or psilocybin. See /drugs/politics/drug.testing.
13. What is "skunk"?
Skunk is a type of hemp (cannabis). It originally meant Cannabis indica
in general, but over the last 20 years has come to refer to a name of
particular sativa/indica cross. While Dutch skunk is famous, the name
did not originate there (although the cross now known as skunk may have).
14. What are the monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs)?
The drugs phenelzine (Nardil), tranylcypromine (Parnate), l-deprenyl
(ElDepryl, Selegiline) and plants containing harmaline (passionflower,
Banisteriopsis caapi and Peganum harmala). THAT'S IT! Prozac, MDMA, beer,
wine, cheese, chocolate etc are things you should AVOID when on a MAOI,
they are *not* MAOIs themselves.
15. Can I smoke or eat <X> to get high?
All of the following either don't work or very little is known about them.
Funny as it may seem, black market drugs are probably safer. Substances
marked with (*) are very dangerous and can -KILL- you.
Aspirin: No, and aspirin is lethal in high doses. (*)
Banana skins: No, the Anarchist Cookbook's "bananadine" is a myth.
Chia pets: No.
Cloud 9: No, it contains only a bit of ephedrine (a mild stimulant).
A cup of coffee is much stronger.
Coke & aspirin: No, and aspirin is lethal in high doses. (*)
Cough syrup: Yes, if it has dextromethorphan (DXM). Some DXM cough syrups
will make you sick though, see the Dextromethorphan FAQ.
Dramamine: Yes, but it's *really* nasty stuff. Hallucinations that seem
like reality and no euphoria. See /drugs/misc/dramamine. (*)
Jimson weed: Yes, but it's a deleriant like Dramamine. Many people every
year are killed by overdose. See /drugs/natural/datura. (*)
Moldy rye: No, and you'll get quite sick if you try. (*)
Morning glory: Yes, but it causes nausea. See the Morning Glory FAQ.
Nutmeg: Yes, but most people find it unpleasant, primarily due
to horrible taste, nausea/vomiting, and 3-day hangover.
See the Nutmeg FAQ and /drugs/natural/nutmeg.
Peanut shells: No.
Poppy seeds: No, the seeds contain no opium.
Toads: Yes, some *rare* toads, namely Bufo alvarus, secrete a
smokeable venom containing the powerful hallucinogen
5-MeO-DMT. See /drugs/psychedelics/tryptamines.
In addition to the favorites above, a number of obscure legal herbs and plants
can be used as drugs; most of the common ones contain only ephedrine or
caffeine though. See the Natural Highs FAQ and /drugs/natural for more.