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VIRUS-L Digest Friday, 12 Jan 1990 Volume 3 : Issue 10
Today's Topics:
WISE Data Systems shipping STONED infected PC's
Re: Shrink Wrap...still safe?
Desktop Fractal Design System Virus (PC)
1812 Virus (PC)
AIDS trojan questions (PC)
Re: Implied Loader Viruses (Mac)
Re: Shrink Wrap...still safe?
VIRUS-L is a moderated, digested mail forum for discussing computer
virus issues; comp.virus is a non-digested Usenet counterpart.
Discussions are not limited to any one hardware/software platform -
diversity is welcomed. Contributions should be relevant, concise,
polite, etc., and sent to VIRUS-L@IBM1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU (that's
LEHIIBM1.BITNET for BITNET folks). Information on accessing
anti-virus, document, and back-issue archives is distributed
periodically on the list. Administrative mail (comments, suggestions,
and so forth) should be sent to me at: krvw@SEI.CMU.EDU.
- Ken van Wyk
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 13:36:00 -0330
From: randy@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
Subject: WISE Data Systems shipping STONED infected PC's
Hi. Hope this is relevant to this list ...
We've discoved that the driver diskette shipped with a Wise Data Systems
PC is infected with the STONED virus. The system has a tgva VGA card and
OAK software on a Wise 386/25
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 11:39:41 -0800
From: well!odawa@apple.com (Michael Odawa)
Subject: Re: Shrink Wrap...still safe?
> we have been using a rule of thumb to stick to shrink wrapped software
> to help avoid viruses. What comments &/or advice do you have for this
> situation?
Both shrinkwrapped and downloaded software sources have their
advantages and risks of contamination. It is our belief that the
important factor is not the distribution method by which you acquire
your software which will protect you, but the integrity of your
sources. While there have been some very serious and regrettable
instances of viruses appearing in both shrink-wrapped and downloaded
software, these are rare in comparison to the viral propagation that
results from software that is "passed around."
To achieve maximum protection you should (a) acquire software only
from trusted sources, (b) scan and monitor your system for viral
activity regularly, and (c) backup often and systematically.
Michael Odawa
Virus Task Force
Software Development Council
odawa@well.uucp
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 17:33:23 -0000
From: LBA002@PRIME-A.TEES-POLY.AC.UK
Subject: Desktop Fractal Design System Virus (PC)
As one of the "mugs" (probably translates as "schmuck" stateside?) who
ran the Desktop Fractal Design System as soon as it arrived, can I ask
any genius out there who works out how to get rid of it to contact me
pronto?
However I have checked the size of my .EXE files against copies on other
machines and I get identical results, plus VIRUS SCAN does not detect
any infection. Could it be that not all the disks were infected, or
only those distributed in the USA?
Rgds,
Iain Noble
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 17:04:38 -0500
From: IRMSS907@SIVM.BITNET
Subject: 1812 Virus (PC)
Earlier today we found out that SHRINK-WRAPPED software called The
Desktop Fractal Design System by Michael F. Barnsley, Iterated
Systems, Inc. (1989) is infected with a virus. The program is sold
through Academic Press and they are aware of the problem. VIRSCAN
(the IBM product) identified it as the 1813 virus. Seems the EXE and
COM files run since the offending software was loaded were all
clobbered and their filesizes grew exponentially every time they were
loaded. Interestingly enough, none of the network files were
affected. Was it was pure luck or that the file attributes on the
network COM & EXE files were set to READ ONLY? Oh, where's the
aspirin !? Anyway, could somebody do a quick review of the atrocities
which will befall us with the 1813 virus? Thanks.
Mignon Erixon-Stanford, PROFS & LISTSERV Administratress
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC.
IRMSS907 @ SIVM
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 20:06:44 -0500
From: UBY@NIHCU.BITNET
Subject: AIDS trojan questions (PC)
Now that the dust has settled a bit, does anyone know how much damage
was really done by the AIDS trojan? Also, has anyone come up with a
good explanation of why it was released in the first place?
Jim Blakley
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 90 22:50:24 +0000
From: biar!trebor@uunet.uu.net (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: Implied Loader Viruses (Mac)
XRJDM@SCFVM.BITNET (Joe McMahon) writes:
>Any resource which appears to be of an executable type which is found
>in a "non-application" file will be flagged as an "implied loader".
I think this is VERY dangerous. How do you define what an
"executable" file is? How about a Hypercard Stack? It is quite
possible for a document to have a legal "executable" resource, and any
false positive is going to result in the trashing of someone's data.
- --
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 90 04:27:09 +0000
From: magik@chinet.chi.il.us (Ben Liberman)
Subject: Re: Shrink Wrap...still safe?
JZH1@MARISTB.BITNET (Craig W. Fisher) writes:
>At a meeting yesterday some people made comments that some viruses
>have been found in shrink-wrapped diskettes. This did surprise me as
>we have been using a rule of thumb to stick to shrink wrapped software
>to help avoid viruses.
A problem that may show up with shrink warped (sic) software is that sometimes
retailers will take back software from customers, and re-shrink warp it, at the
store. If the customer tried the software out on an infected machine....
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Ben Liberman USENET magik@chinet.chi.il.us
GEnie,Delphi MAGIK
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